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TaylorFade
10-22-2012, 08:00 PM
1. Product:

(4) Tantric MD 12's

2. Specs:

"750w" rms
D2's
2.5" 4 layer flatwound aluminum coil
Linear nomex spider

3. Description/Condition:

You can be the judge on how "used" they are as I only used these (4) for finals. Got them about a week prior, one night of testing and then off to finals. Maybe 20-30 burps on them?

In case you're wondering, I did 158.3 with these (4) in Stock 0-600w.

Don't tell Murph I said this, but the MD's are my favorite line. They just do it all. The get loud as **** for SPL and then you can drop them right into a daily and get low. I do 146ish in the 30's on 2k in my daily with the pair I'm keeping. In a 2 cubic foot, (2) 12" passive radiators @ 30hz SQ box. Lol.

They sound great in anything between 1.5-2cubes. (2) of them have black baskets and (2) of them have silver baskets. Make sure to let me know if you have a preference.

4. Price: :

$190 shipped each.

Trades are welcome. Offer up. keep in mind I'm an amp *****.

5. Pictures:

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/95ABA54B-5E47-494D-8F74-C1029854103B-46556-00001963985A74C6_zpsc690a6b5.jpg

ESS PEE ELLS!!!

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/FE1D376B-7B3B-4587-8365-E10D5EA27C27-2243-000000EEFDC6A315_zps721410af.jpg




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FlexnInLa
10-22-2012, 08:12 PM
Got any pics of that daily box?

TaylorFade
10-22-2012, 08:17 PM
Got any pics of that daily box?

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/83517867-BE47-4A19-B2E9-EB465B025E28-12030-00000808CC31400F.jpg

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/36950B3B-689C-4A53-BA69-A5C4AC1783DF-12030-00000808D63968EC.jpg

FlexnInLa
10-22-2012, 08:20 PM
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/83517867-BE47-4A19-B2E9-EB465B025E28-12030-00000808CC31400F.jpg

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/36950B3B-689C-4A53-BA69-A5C4AC1783DF-12030-00000808D63968EC.jpg

Gonna have to educate myself on passive radiators. Nice.

FlexnInLa
10-22-2012, 08:23 PM
What kinda passive radiators are those?

TaylorFade
10-22-2012, 08:27 PM
What kinda passive radiators are those?

I had Murphy (Tantric) make those for me with his soft parts and adjustable weights.

DoesDad
10-22-2012, 08:27 PM
Are they the stitched surrounds or the non-stitched surrounds? Kind of confused....:confused:

FlexnInLa
10-22-2012, 08:30 PM
I had Murphy (Tantric) make those for me with his soft parts and adjustable weights.

Just sick man, I like it!

TaylorFade
10-22-2012, 08:36 PM
Are they the stitched surrounds or the non-stitched surrounds? Kind of confused....:confused:

Crap. I didn't even notice that. They are stitched. I'll have to change that pic. The close-ups are of the first one I got to try out. After that one, I got upgraded (stiffer) cones that are stitched like in the other pics. I've had (7). The (6) I have now are all stitched.

My bad.

Exist_ential
10-22-2012, 08:58 PM
sure wish these were d1 or d4

2Dcore
10-22-2012, 09:03 PM
Think they can handle 4k daily?

TaylorFade
10-22-2012, 09:10 PM
Think they can handle 4k daily?

All 4? Yes.

FlexnInLa
10-22-2012, 09:46 PM
All 4? Yes.

So you adjust tuning by adjusting the passive radiators?

How low will that play with authority?

That 2 cube box just blows my mind, never paid much attention to passive radiators before.

TaylorFade
10-22-2012, 09:57 PM
So you adjust tuning by adjusting the passive radiators?

How low will that play with authority?

That 2 cube box just blows my mind, never paid much attention to passive radiators before.

You adjust tuning by adding or subtracting weight. More mass = lower tuning. If you look closely at the back of them, you will see washers stacked up. That's why I have them inverted; so i can change tuning on the fly. It's also so they don't slap the back of the trunk.

The way it works is, you calculate how much the air in the port you'd like to use would weigh and then replicate it with the moving mass of the PR. i.e. - 6" aero that's 30" long is ~ .5cf. .5 cubic feet of air weighs .6 ounces. Blah, blah... I have a woofer tester so I can check tuning with a click of a mouse. Lol.

Or you can use this formula...

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/f89e063d.jpg

FlexnInLa
10-22-2012, 10:03 PM
You adjust tuning by adding or subtracting weight. More mass = lower tuning. If you look closely at the back of them, you will see washers stacked up. That's why I have them inverted; so i can change tuning on the fly. It's also so they don't slap the back of the trunk.

The way it works is, you calculate how much the air in the port you'd like to use would weigh and then replicate it with the moving mass of the PR. i.e. - 6" aero that's 30" long is ~ .5cf. .5 cubic feet of air weighs .6 ounces. Blah, blah... I have a woofer tester so I can check tuning with a click of a mouse. Lol.

Or you can use this formula...

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/f89e063d.jpg

Ah makes sense kinda... thanks for the education! You wouldn't happen to have a spreadsheet I could just plug number into would you? :)

Dtrom
10-22-2012, 11:17 PM
Not to thread jack but where does one buy tantric sounds subwoofers?

FlexnInLa
10-23-2012, 12:27 AM
Not to thread jack but where does one buy tantric sounds subwoofers?

You buy them in this thread right hurr!

Dtrom
10-23-2012, 12:29 AM
You buy them in this thread right hurr!

Hehe. I see.

TaylorFade
10-23-2012, 12:30 AM
Not to thread jack but where does one buy tantric sounds subwoofers?

You can check out the FB or text Alan Hall @ 618-791-5108

Take your pick. Only one not pictured is the HD which is the 1,500w rms 3" coil woofer.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/98D6752D-DE80-49B9-A1B3-C450C43D4474-6905-000004F113136A90.jpg

Dtrom
10-23-2012, 12:32 AM
You can check out the FB or text Alan Hall @ 618-791-5108

Take your pick. Only one not pictured is the HD which is the 1,500w rms 3" coil woofer.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/98D6752D-DE80-49B9-A1B3-C450C43D4474-6905-000004F113136A90.jpg

Awesome! Do you know pricing on the HD 12" off hand?

tantric sounds
10-23-2012, 12:34 AM
Hehe. I see.

or you can email us direct @ tantricsounds @hotmail.com or rmurphy @tantricsounds.com

hispls
10-23-2012, 12:39 AM
Big one is TSNS?

wickedwitt
10-23-2012, 12:55 AM
Big one is TSNS?

Tantric SHD. I would liken the two.

Sub Bass Woofrz
10-23-2012, 01:03 AM
how the **** did you hit 158 on 600w....

TaylorFade
10-23-2012, 03:04 AM
how the **** did you hit 158 on 600w....

Actually "500w" Lol.

500w @ 4 ohms. B2 Audio Zero.5

USACi does their power classes by 4ohm rating.

DoesDad
10-23-2012, 06:47 AM
Crap. I didn't even notice that. They are stitched. I'll have to change that pic. The close-ups are of the first one I got to try out. After that one, I got upgraded (stiffer) cones that are stitched like in the other pics. I've had (7). The (6) I have now are all stitched.

My bad.

No biggie... Thanks for clearing it up.

Sub Bass Woofrz
10-23-2012, 10:17 AM
Actually "500w" Lol.

500w @ 4 ohms. B2 Audio Zero.5

USACi does their power classes by 4ohm rating.
Oh so more like 2k+???

TaylorFade
10-23-2012, 03:22 PM
Oh so more like 2k+???

Something like that :)

But yeah... It's 2k @ 1

splwj47
10-23-2012, 07:30 PM
Oh so more like 2k+???


more like 5k plus lol.

hispls
10-24-2012, 01:50 AM
Tantric SHD. I would liken the two.

Seems to be more and more clones of that motor every week. IT's a solid platform for 4" coil so no suprise really.

TaylorFade
10-24-2012, 02:00 AM
Seems to be more and more clones of that motor every week. IT's a solid platform for 4" coil so no suprise really.

Tantric SHD a clone of the TSNS?

Lol. That's funny.

MD's are pending.

Jes 42
10-24-2012, 02:10 AM
texted the guy last night on some 15's pricing.got back to me quick and sent email with info.cool guy it seems

hispls
10-24-2012, 02:27 AM
Tantric SHD a clone of the TSNS?

Lol. That's funny.

MD's are pending.

So what precisely sets it apart from that and every other 4hp varient?

TaylorFade
10-24-2012, 03:11 AM
So what precisely sets it apart from that and every other 4hp varient?

I dunno. I just found the SHD/TSNS comparison humorous. I guess you could ask the guy who designed them.

wickedwitt
10-24-2012, 08:25 AM
I dunno. I just found the SHD/TSNS comparison humorous. I guess you could ask the guy who designed them.

I would be very interested in seeing how a SHD stacks up to the current arguable best daily sub ever designed.

hispls
10-24-2012, 08:36 AM
I dunno. I just found the SHD/TSNS comparison humorous. I guess you could ask the guy who designed them.



I don't think Thilo is easy to get hold of these days. It really does look like black to TRF/TSNS/Soundstream XXX/etc. etc. If they are useing reliable soft parts and don't pull the shennanigans that TSNS was known for they will go far with that lineup.

sundownz
10-24-2012, 08:57 AM
From what I've seen of the SHD it, at the very least, has changed the air flow pattern around the pole compared to a 4HP motor. The pole is angled on both sides at the top and it is solid once you go down a bit.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab45/taylorfade/2B9667FB-4189-46DC-A5DB-308494A57D86-35952-00001411BA6FE93C.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/d65xl.jpg

Plus it appears to have a massive under-cut on the pole -- which I don't think any 4HP variation that I've seen has. With all this in mind I simply don't feel like you can call the SHD a "4HP" variation as it's quite a bit different across the board. The similarity, to me, ends at them both being massive 4" coil motors.

It appears to me that Tantric is working on being pretty original with their work -- so I'm all for them doing well as a new brand :)

Sorry for the OT just happened to be browsing and noted the conversation.

GLWS !!!

AlanHall
10-24-2012, 08:06 PM
Thank you Jacob.

tantric sounds
10-24-2012, 08:17 PM
Thanks jacob..its always a comparison of motors these days and people dont understand who makes what. I really dont mind them comparing my shd to the original soundstream xxx or tsns motors since i was the engineer behind them both but what they fail to realize is this motor is a new improved design to what i built in the past... But I thank you for shedding some needed light in areas of design that are looked over by some others......and seeing as the 4hp and trf motors were designed by someone els after the ss xxx was designed i dont see how they would compare in any way both being solid platforms but performing differently....thanks again jacob

TaylorFade
11-09-2012, 04:34 PM
These are no longer "pending."

Back up.

keefy248
11-10-2012, 09:03 AM
kinda what im looking for 145daily at 30-32hrtz

deeper1
08-30-2013, 09:35 AM
Taylor, tell me you still have these. I want three right now.

SubbyBeat
08-30-2013, 01:20 PM
ill take two if you still have them

dacheatham
08-30-2013, 03:28 PM
I am doubting he still has these.

I do have one for sale if anyone is looking. d2, $120 + shipping