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Jaguar
10-16-2012, 04:41 AM
I'd like to thank MurderMat Sound Solutions for sending out samples of their product, the giveaway was a great way to start the launch of a product,
and it was a grand opening in more respects than one. I genuinely feel the giveaway says something about the type people who stand behind the product,
but that the product itself is outstanding within itself enough it's like a bold statement that ironically enough is something that, should be heard.
It's loud-enough so that it can't be ignored by consumers but just-enough, it for lack of a better term, ''beats'' at the door of competitors.

You know something, MurderMat has the look, but beyond being sound-deadener, does something significant distinguish it between just being that ''more
sound-deadener", or is there "more" to MurderMat which would make someone out there looking to buy some sound-deadening mat, make them want to
choose it over another brand? The answer is yes. The amount of consideration that went into the production of MurderMat at first was not apparent, but
after I had completed research on the product I came to the realize it is layered as the product. I'm not going to get into too much technical detail about
how MurderMat compares to other sound-deadeners. I feel I have technically reached all I could grasp given my experience, but what I had unveiled in
comparative research of MurderMat, Dynamat, FatMat, SecondSkin and Audio Technix is something that should be seen, and that's something to say
within itself for something, that is likely to be completely hidden from view. For more on that click here (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/murdermat-sound-solutions/557258-murdermat-vs-dynamat-fatmat-secondskin-audio-technix.html).



On with the review.
For some time now I've known I had resonant vibrations from the subwoofers which caused audible distortions in my car. The cause of this was not only
the hollows of metal having an audible resonant frequency when my subwoofers thumped or kicked, but other problematics such as the bare metal which
underlies the Parcel shelf. The Parcel shelf is essentially and extension of the trunk, and it was as much an issue as the trunk, and trunk lid insofar as it
being virtually unprotected with any sound-deadening proprieties. Only until now, have I been able to even begin to properly distinguish just "how much"
of a difference sound deadener can mean to your listening experience. Upon learning that I had been chosen in the GIVEAWAY hosted on car-audio forum
by MurderMat Sound Solutions, I decided to try and pay closer attention to what tones and frequencies were distorted in order to write a proper review
after install. The difference? A world of difference. How?

Number 1: MurderMat silenced all the excessive vibrations the subwoofers made in my car that were not meant to be heard, nor meant to be a part
of the listening experience. Number 2: The bass is much cleaner. Now that all the noise has quieted down, it has left more room to hear even the subtle
variations of bass from a cleaner perspective. Number 3: Gains in bass. Bass is louder without having to turn the volume up as much as before (DB gains).
Number 4: Rattles. You know the deal, you're in your car the music sounds ''fine'' but on the outside it sounds bad? The sound deadener works miracles
inside as well as outside of the vehicle. Number 5: Seats Down. I no longer have to have my seats down in the back of my car to get the full effect of
bass from my woofers. I'm not sure exactly how this happened besides an educated guess, but the bass is not only deeper it also appears to be more
resounding given it's constraints.


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Final notes: This was my first installation of sound-deadener in a car. After I started to prep my trunk and everything inside my trunk was removed,
I felt the task to properly install the deadener would be a daunting challenge, but after just a moment I started to enjoy it. I feel the uniqueness of
the very top layer covering the aluminum constraining layer (2 mils of Vinyl) helped prevent a lot of tearing I have seen other sound deadeners make
as they are stretched across extreme grooves, not only that. My finding was the actual top design made it incredibly easier to measure cuts given
there are several lines one and two inches apart. Especially so when I had to make several smaller cuts to fit around the difficult contours of the
underside of the metal on my trunks lid. It's also very easy to mold around curves and bends. Each piece I cut ended up fitting perfectly, and
to my amazement, it just didn't stop. I almost wanted to try and mess up on purpose but couldn't. No matter how you say it, no matter how
you cut it or compare it MurderMat is the ****.

Bettr n' Revrse
10-16-2012, 04:46 AM
Lookinh good... Are the stickers Silver? I was hoping the where black :(

Jaguar
10-16-2012, 04:52 AM
Additional Photos
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_13.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_14.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_15.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_16.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_17.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_18.jpg

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Side Note:
Approximately 80 feet of CCF rolled tightly within the lid over MurderMat, and covered again with MurderMat. I forgot to take a photo of the aluminum plates.

Jaguar
10-16-2012, 04:57 AM
Lookinh good... Are the stickers Silver? I was hoping the where black :(
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_03.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_04.jpg

Bettr n' Revrse
10-16-2012, 05:15 AM
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**** they look black with the backing on them

adas
10-16-2012, 09:50 AM
**** they look black with the backing on them
We can make some in black sir :D

That trunk lid is pretty crazy now... good use of creativity!

As long as a lot of moisture doesnt get in the lid after time in between the foam you should be good.

CAT MAN
10-16-2012, 09:56 AM
just wondering. What other deadener have you owned to compare this to to call it the best?

Jaguar
10-16-2012, 11:52 AM
just wondering. What other deadener have you owned to compare this to to call it the best?
Good question. Although my personal experience with the product makes it my favorite, that's just my personal opinion and contradistinct from me actually stating or proving
it's ''the best''. I never said MurderMat was ''the best'' you did. Did you see what I just did? I took a little part of what you had written and made it appear as if it's what you
meant, but it's not what you meant, because it's only a part of what you have written or think. The same principle applies with me, and I feel if you read what I wrote you
would see I never stated what you stated. What I have done was merely made a comparison on an entirely completely different thread of the specifications and had the
sound deadeners have a showdown amongst themselves. Opinions vary, and people lie but numbers don't. While I think that still is something from actually being able
to prove it's the best the studies are certainly interesting, and that's all I'm saying keep your eye on MurderMat. As far as my personal experience with deadeners it
is limited but as per singling down what I meant when asked to explain something I didn't necessarily say, while knowing you have read this is my first install, no
matter what I said it would only boil down to preference. Ultimately I would never be able to prove it's the best, but again it's not something I set out to do.

Bettr n' Revrse
10-16-2012, 06:37 PM
We can make some in black sir :D

That trunk lid is pretty crazy now... good use of creativity!

As long as a lot of moisture doesnt get in the lid after time in between the foam you should be good.

The silver doesn't look bad but I was hoping they where black so it would have a "ghost" affect on my tint...

CAT MAN
10-16-2012, 06:40 PM
Good question. Although my personal experience with the product makes it my favorite, that's just my personal opinion and contradistinct from me actually stating or proving
it's ''the best''. I never said MurderMat was ''the best'' you did. Did you see what I just did? I took a little part of what you had written and made it appear as if it's what you
meant, but it's not what you meant, because it's only a part of what you have written or think. The same principle applies with me, and I feel if you read what I wrote you
would see I never stated what you stated. What I have done was merely made a comparison on an entirely completely different thread of the specifications and had the
sound deadeners have a showdown amongst themselves. Opinions vary, and people lie but numbers don't. While I think that still is something from actually being able
to prove it's the best the studies are certainly interesting, and that's all I'm saying keep your eye on MurderMat. As far as my personal experience with deadeners it
is limited but as per singling down what I meant when asked to explain something I didn't necessarily say, while knowing you have read this is my first install, no
matter what I said it would only boil down to preference. Ultimately I would never be able to prove it's the best, but again it's not something I set out to do.

i didnt mean to come off as an ***. I only ask this so we know. The only thing wrong i see is the fact you did everything all at once ccf and deadener. So honestly we will never know trunk wise without CCF how it willl do. Other than those few mistakes it seems like a very good review.

Jerhemy
10-19-2012, 03:46 PM
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I like the way you stuffed that ccf up in the trunk lid... good stuff!

Jaguar
10-19-2012, 04:25 PM
I like the way you stuffed that ccf up in the trunk lid... good stuff!
Why thank you. It's approximately 80 feet of CCF on top of MurderMat, then covered with some custom aluminum plates I made then, covered again with more mat.
It doesn't look it but it is rolled up, supertight! It probably was not an ideal install, but I had to get creative because with as many openings that were in that particular
area of the trunk I felt the use of ''goodstuff'' might have been too much to handle for my first project. That is of course given it's expanding properties. Thanks again.

Oh, by the way, there was a comment earlier about moisture? I used polyethylene CF and, at no time was any mat installed directly over any foam. :)

Jerhemy
10-19-2012, 04:29 PM
by "goodstuff" are you referring to expanding foam?! I don't know if i'd ever be able to use expanding foam in my car, that shyt is impossible to control haha. Yea man it blows having to deal with deadening a truck lid, you did a MUCH better job at that than I did when I tried to do my first trunk lid.

CAT MAN
10-19-2012, 08:41 PM
Why thank you. It's approximately 80 feet of CCF on top of MurderMat, then covered with some custom aluminum plates I made then, covered again with more mat.
It doesn't look it but it is rolled up, supertight! It probably was not an ideal install, but I had to get creative because with as many openings that were in that particular
area of the trunk I felt the use of ''goodstuff'' might have been too much to handle for my first project. That is of course given it's expanding properties. Thanks again.

Oh, by the way, there was a comment earlier about moisture? I used polyethylene CF and, at no time was any mat installed directly over any foam. :)so its hard to tell if its just the deadener that healped you out or the 500 other things you did....


by "goodstuff" are you referring to expanding foam?! I don't know if i'd ever be able to use expanding foam in my car, that shyt is impossible to control haha. Yea man it blows having to deal with deadening a truck lid, you did a MUCH better job at that than I did when I tried to do my first trunk lid.
Great stuff. its the sheet

quackhead
10-19-2012, 08:53 PM
Additional Photos
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_13.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_14.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_15.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_16.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_17.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_18.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_19.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/store_age/mmrev_20.jpg

Side Note:
Approximately 80 feet of CCF rolled tightly within the lid over MurderMat, and covered again with MurderMat. I forgot to take a photo of the aluminum plates.

Looks good Jag...mad respect for the effort invested.

GopsBynccounc
11-24-2012, 11:58 AM
I had a project machined by Jr. from heavy metalmach,

The machining went great, we communicated via email and Jr always responded within a few hours or at the most within 12 hours. The machining was quick and came in just as expected. I would do business with again any day.

Thanks,

Joe

cdc351jeferson
11-24-2012, 12:03 PM
by "goodstuff" are you referring to expanding foam?! I don't know if i'd ever be able to use expanding foam in my car, that shyt is impossible to control haha. Yea man it blows having to deal with deadening a truck lid, you did a MUCH better job at that than I did when I tried to do my first trunk lid.

i filled the trunk lid on my G6 with that foam it stiffened it up pretty good then i did 2 layers of stinger on it . trunk lid is pretty solid