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myjaja
10-15-2012, 11:32 PM
I had the pioneer 860mp and I loved that radio. Too bad I sold it with my old car. So its time for a new radio. I want something that has the same features as the new pioneer 80prs but better. My friend has the new pioneer 80prs but Im not too impressed with it. It feels and looks like junk. Anyone know of one thats close to that price range?


Something like:

13-16 band eq
24 bit burr brown
4-6 volt preouts
a networking feature will be nice too

thanks

Dtrom
10-15-2012, 11:35 PM
What's the most your looking to spend? I had an incredible pioneer double din in my last car. Don't remember the model. ABH or AVH somethin. Was $300 brand new.

myjaja
10-15-2012, 11:38 PM
What's the most your looking to spend? I had an incredible pioneer double din in my last car. Don't remember the model. ABH or AVH somethin. Was $300 brand new.

$350 will be the most since I can get a pioneer 80prs really cheap. lol

Also, a double din will be nice but I noticed pioneer double dins dont have too many features for an sq setup.

Dirtrider4eva
10-15-2012, 11:59 PM
eclipse cd7200. pioneer deh9800bt, p7800mp, alpine 9887, not familiar with kenwood SQ units tho.

myjaja
10-16-2012, 12:56 AM
eclipse cd7200. pioneer deh9800bt, p7800mp, alpine 9887, not familiar with kenwood SQ units tho.

I wanna buy a brand new head unit. Im liking the eclipse but they dont make it anymore. As for the pioneers, dont really need lower ends of the 80prs. I like that alpine but I prefer the 80prs over it. Thanks though for the help.

Bettr n' Revrse
10-16-2012, 12:59 AM
Wanna try a 9855? I need one gone...

40oz
10-16-2012, 01:22 AM
I would get the Kenwood KDC-X996 over the 80prs. You can get it for like $210 shipped, Kenwood ftw.

myjaja
10-16-2012, 02:19 PM
I would get the Kenwood KDC-X996 over the 80prs. You can get it for like $210 shipped, Kenwood ftw.


Thanks, ill look into that radio.

J31Rob
10-16-2012, 02:20 PM
I've got an 880PRS and an Alpine CDA117 for sale.

mylows10
10-16-2012, 02:30 PM
there isn't one in the 350 price range,at least not one with a t/a and 15 band eq

West
10-16-2012, 02:50 PM
Get an eclipse cd7200 mkii
It will not fail to impress you (7 band parametric eq)

I have heard some people not liking the 80prs, the p99rs is great (not fantastic) but great none the less. The 99 is not worth the high price tag imo. The complaints I've seen with the 80prs is that the sound was "hollow" (maybe lacking detail).

You have to consider the equipment your friend is using... is he running decient amps/speakers? The 80prs is going to give you a big bang for your buck when you look at all the features it comes with.

I had a pioneer double din (Avic-x930bt) but it was not so great on the sound quality... My opinions for what they are worth.

Flipx99
10-16-2012, 02:51 PM
If I were doing single din, I'd get the one in OP.

West
10-16-2012, 02:55 PM
Aside from some reliability issues with it an MS-8 may be a good option as well.
If I was in the market right now that high end kenwood used or the 7200 used and an MS-8 used and that should give you some very very nice sound...

You could probably find the both of those for around 500 bills total.

groundpound4200
10-16-2012, 02:56 PM
$350 will be the most since I can get a pioneer 80prs really cheap. lol

Also, a double din will be nice but I noticed pioneer double dins dont have too many features for an sq setup.

Normally I'd agree with that but peep dis... I was set on it for my Maxima until I found out that you lose a bunch of features when you unplug the factory HU w/o buying a din sized adapter with the missing buttons that were on the factory HU.

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jockhater2
10-16-2012, 03:19 PM
[QUOTE=
Something like:

13-16 band eq
24 bit burr brown
4-6 volt preouts
a networking feature will be nice too

thanks[/QUOTE]

what is 24bit burr brown? and what makes it desirable?
and same for the 13-16eq band?

what does an "average" head unit have compared to those options also?

West
10-16-2012, 03:32 PM
what is 24bit burr brown? and what makes it desirable?
and same for the 13-16eq band?

what does an "average" head unit have compared to those options also?

An average head unit should have a standard 16bit digital to analog converter. Or higher...
Burr brown to my understanding is a high grade digital to analog converter.

Head units have EQ's ranging from 0 (noeq)-31 bands (p99rs) - Average is about 7-10, for SQ decks.
But you have to be careful because some decks only have EQ presets which means you cannot change individual frequencies. But you can select a predetermined setting for Rock, Jazz, Rap, etc.
Parametric eq's have a set number of EQ bands, but you can select the bands that need adjustment.
Example the eclise has a 7 band eq but you can program the first band to adjust 63, 80, or 100 hz; the other eq bands have 3 options as well.

jockhater2
10-16-2012, 03:36 PM
An average head unit should have a standard 16bit digital to analog converter.
Burr brown to my understanding is a high grade digital to analog converter.

Head units have EQ's ranging from 0 (noeq)-31 bands (p99rs) - Average is about 7-10, for SQ decks.
But you have to be careful because some decks only have EQ presets which means you cannot change individual frequencies. But you can select a predetermined setting for Rock, Jazz, Rap, etc.
Parametric eq's have a set number of EQ bands, but you can select the bands that need adjustment.
Example the eclise has a 7 band eq but you can program the first band to adjust 63, 80, or 100 hz; the other eq bands have 3 options as well.

ohh ok. does the 16bit digital to analog only matter for CD's? or ipods too?

West
10-16-2012, 03:42 PM
ohh ok. does the 16bit digital to analog only matter for CD's? or ipods too?

I googled it burr-brown is produced by texas instruments.
Any digital signal must be converted to analog for an rca or speaker line level output.
Cd's yes, iPod's yes
I believe if you use the 3.5mm output from your ipod instead of the standard apple cable you can bypass your decks DAC... In that scenario you would be using the ipod's DAC.
The 3.5mm cable carrys analog signal so it would not need to go through a DAC.
Radio tuners (unless they are satalite or HD tuners) also should not need to go through a DAC.

jockhater2
10-16-2012, 03:45 PM
I googled it burr-brown is produced by texas instruments.
Any digital signal must be converted to analog for an rca or speaker line level output.
Cd's yes, iPod's yes
I believe if you use the 3.5mm output from your ipod instead of the standard apple cable you can bypass your decks DAC... In that scenario you would be using the ipod's DAC.
The 3.5mm cable carrys analog signal so it would not need to go through a DAC.
Radio tuners (unless they are satalite or HD tuners) also should not need to go through a DAC.

I use an LOD cable for my ipod. So it bypasses the ipods DAC and uses the headunits.

Ok. now it all making sense. Now I want to check out my manual and see what my HU is.

West
10-16-2012, 03:48 PM
I use an LOD cable for my ipod. So it bypasses the ipods DAC and uses the headunits.

Ok. now it all making sense. Now I want to check out my manual and see what my HU is.

9/10 the headunits DAC will beat the iPods lol

On the 7200mkii I acutally prefered the 3.5mm output.

West
10-16-2012, 03:52 PM
I use an LOD cable for my ipod. So it bypasses the ipods DAC and uses the headunits.

Ok. now it all making sense. Now I want to check out my manual and see what my HU is.


The deck in your sig has a 24 bit DAC
and 3 Eq bands.

24bit DAC's are becoming more common.

Fi-brations
10-16-2012, 03:52 PM
i love my cd7000, try to find a 7200 u will be more than happy with it

West
10-16-2012, 03:56 PM
i love my cd7000, try to find a 7200 u will be more than happy with it


;)
The preout voltage is rated at 8... it's more like a high 5V or so, but still very nice.

In a few ways I prefer the sound out of the eclipse to my p99rs... very warm sounding, not as much detail though...

jockhater2
10-16-2012, 03:59 PM
The deck in your sig has a 24 bit DAC
and 3 Eq bands.

24bit DAC's are becoming more common.

it only has 3 eq bands?
then what would 7? 13? look like?

West
10-16-2012, 04:01 PM
it only has 3 eq bands?
then what would 7? 13? look like?

http://www.blazeaudio.com/products/webeqxp/images/webeqxp_600x400.gif
A 10 band eq. Just gives you a higher degree of frequency adjustment, the ability to adjust more frequencies.

West
10-16-2012, 04:04 PM
it only has 3 eq bands?
then what would 7? 13? look like?

I believe that deck has preset EQ settings in addition to an adjustable EQ.

"•3-band parametric equalizer, plus 8 preset EQ curves"

It should be in your manual on how and what you can adjust.

jockhater2
10-16-2012, 04:12 PM
I believe that deck has preset EQ settings in addition to an adjustable EQ.

"•3-band parametric equalizer, plus 8 preset EQ curves"

It should be in your manual on how and what you can adjust.

Ok. gotcha. yeah. The only one I know to touch is the LPF. When I mess with the middle/high. I never notice anything differenct