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garretttt4
10-12-2012, 07:54 PM
So one of my buddies has a blown 04 mustang with a auto v6 in it that he said he'd sell me cheap. I was thinking about taking the engine out of my gmas 03 crown Vic. 4.6l v8. It's supposedly the same engine as the mustang gt with lower gears...... If I did would the motor mounts and transmission mounts match without any modifications? Or would they be off since the v6 is smaller?

Smitty
10-12-2012, 08:09 PM
It is doable but a lot of work & time. If it was a factory v8 it would bolt right in.

Do you really want to change all the motor mounts, k member, transmission mount & tunnel, & put in a stronger rear end?

TaylorFade
10-12-2012, 08:22 PM
My buddy says it can be done. Says not a direct swap but not a hard swap.

You'll need a few trips to the junkyard and (his estimate) ~ $1,500 in parts to do it.

garretttt4
10-12-2012, 08:25 PM
It is doable but a lot of work & time. If it was a factory v8 it would bolt right in.

Do you really want to change all the motor mounts, k member, transmission mount & tunnel, & put in a stronger rear end?

Yeah ik It's gunna be work. But I'm willing to do it..... I'm not gunna be doing enough power to need to beef up the rear end..... Just gunna cam the engine and do headers..... Just concerned about the motor mounts mostly....

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My buddy says it can be done. Says not a direct swap but not a hard swap.

You'll need a few trips to the junkyard and (his estimate) ~ $1,500 in parts to do it.

Like what parts?

TaylorFade
10-12-2012, 08:31 PM
Yeah ik It's gunna be work. But I'm willing to do it..... I'm not gunna be doing enough power to need to beef up the rear end..... Just gunna cam the engine and do headers..... Just concerned about the motor mounts mostly....

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Like what parts?

Wiring harness, computer, exhaust, maybe the intake, rad hoses, power steering lines and silly **** like that.

xShoWTeKx
10-12-2012, 08:34 PM
i believe on the v6's it should be a straight drop, i don't think that they changed the cross member or any of that at most all it would be is rear end and maybe suspension if they changed that for the extra weight of the v8 just do a lil googling and you can find out. i know thats all it is on the older fox bodies because we are doing a v8 into a 4 cyl coupe right now and the only difference is rear end and suspension thats it.

garretttt4
10-12-2012, 08:38 PM
i believe on the v6's it should be a straight drop, i don't think that they changed the cross member or any of that at most all it would be is rear end and maybe suspension if they changed that for the extra weight of the v8 just do a lil googling and you can find out. i know thats all it is on the older fox bodies because we are doing a v8 into a 4 cyl coupe right now and the only difference is rear end and suspension thats it.

Yeah ik about the suspension.....but if you have the same engine as what would go in a gt why would you need a harness ? Don't they use the same one? Wouldn't the computer be the same too ? They're just 1 year apart.

xShoWTeKx
10-12-2012, 08:41 PM
the primary harness should be about the same but you probably will have to change the computer and the ignition harness just bring it with the engine when you remove it they should plug right up. you shouldn't have to do the entire harness because that should all be the same, at most you might have to hit a junk yard or some where and get the ignition harness and computer out of a v8 mustang if the vic's have different plug ins but that won't cost much at all.

garretttt4
10-12-2012, 08:45 PM
the primary harness should be about the same but you probably will have to change the computer and the ignition harness just bring it with the engine when you remove it they should plug right up. you shouldn't have to do the entire harness because that should all be the same, at most you might have to hit a junk yard or some where and get the ignition harness and computer out of a v8 mustang if the vic's have different plug ins but that won't cost much at all.

That's what I was thinking..... Was hoping to not have to spend more than 400 for hooking it up.... Will I have to shorten the driveshaft since the crown Vic is a bigger car or will it be short enough?

xShoWTeKx
10-12-2012, 08:48 PM
That's what I was thinking..... Was hoping to not have to spend more than 400 for hooking it up.... Will I have to shorten the driveshaft since the crown Vic is a bigger car or will it be short enough?

5. What parts will I need to swap? - The short answer is: The engine and related components, the exhaust, the computer and all engine wiring. If going to 4.6 you will also have to swap transmissions, and brake boosters. K members are the same for GT and V6. 94 95 3.8s had motor mounts to fit the 5.0 crossmember. In 96-04 the 3.8s got different mounts to fit the 4.6 crossmember.


V6 to V8 swap FAQ- Newbies Read Here First! - Ford Mustang Forums (http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/v6-tech/287072-v6-v8-swap-faq-newbies-read-here-first.html)

xShoWTeKx
10-12-2012, 08:51 PM
most of this should be no problem if you are pulling it from the vic the only thing that you are going to actually have to buy is all of the mustang specific things like you said the vic is bigger but as far as the expensive parts go you should be good (engine, tranny, etc).

garretttt4
10-12-2012, 08:57 PM
Yeah I'll have everything from the Vic ..... It'll be at my house so I can just take whatever I need and I'll prolly scrap it when im done haha

snoopdan
10-12-2012, 09:00 PM
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skylineTT
10-12-2012, 09:24 PM
It is going to be a lot of work for the performance of a new taurus. :P

honestly though, after you put the crown vic engine/trans/computer/harness/etc. in, you'll simply need a full v8 mustang exhaust, intake/air box, and possibly driveshaft if the crown vic trans is a diff. length. You're going to have more torque/power and an open differential too so have fun with the one wheel wonder.

skylineTT
10-12-2012, 09:26 PM
oh, and for better responses, try corral.net stangnet.com allfordmustangs.com or mustangforums.com

garretttt4
10-12-2012, 10:19 PM
It is going to be a lot of work for the performance of a new taurus. :P

honestly though, after you put the crown vic engine/trans/computer/harness/etc. in, you'll simply need a full v8 mustang exhaust, intake/air box, and possibly driveshaft if the crown vic trans is a diff. length. You're going to have more torque/power and an open differential too so have fun with the one wheel wonder.

You can get driveshafts lengthened and shortened....

audiobaun
10-12-2012, 10:23 PM
So one of my buddies has a blown 04 mustang with a auto v6 in it that he said he'd sell me cheap. I was thinking about taking the engine out of my gmas 03 crown Vic. 4.6l v8. It's supposedly the same engine as the mustang gt with lower gears...... If I did would the motor mounts and transmission mounts match without any modifications? Or would they be off since the v6 is smaller?

Not worth the effort...Buy a Honda

audiobaun
10-12-2012, 10:26 PM
Or find a v-8/5.0 should bolt right up

I Like Waffle
10-12-2012, 10:28 PM
Not worth the time, the car will still be slow.

skylineTT
10-12-2012, 10:37 PM
You can get driveshafts lengthened and shortened....
Lol duh. I meant it is something you'll have to deal with. It'll cost you roughly 110-170 depending on if they put new joints on it.


Not worth the time, the car will still be slow.
This times 10. I guess if you can get it done for 500 then cool, but it depends on what you're paying for the car. After it is all said and done, you're going to have a slow car with an open diff.

Bettr n' Revrse
10-12-2012, 10:38 PM
Just go buy a V8

skylineTT
10-12-2012, 10:40 PM
Get a 4v out of a marauder if you want to stick with a modular engine.

garretttt4
10-12-2012, 11:14 PM
It's like 5.5 sec 0-60 Idc tho it's just a daily driver. Got a ranchero for fun haha

I Like Waffle
10-13-2012, 09:09 PM
Idk what my 0-60 time is. probably about 4.xx seconds, engine makes over 500 horse and 600ft lb. Built the whole drivetrain for less than 2g. How make so much power with 2g? Started with a 390hp/510 ft lb of torque stock big block and did a couple mods.

husker77
10-13-2012, 09:14 PM
Get a 4v out of a navigator if you want to stick with a modular engine.

fixed 5.4 4v.

We are in the process of swapping a 4.6 2v from a crown vic into my son's mazda pickup. Don't buy a honda unless you just want to think your fast.

rebelfromva
10-13-2012, 09:16 PM
just keep the vic

garretttt4
10-13-2012, 09:17 PM
fixed 5.4 4v.

We are in the process of swapping a 4.6 2v from a crown vic into my son's mazda pickup. Don't buy a honda unless you just want think your fast.

Key word .... "THINK"!!!

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just keep the vic

IT'S a boat! They're huge!

garretttt4
10-13-2012, 09:18 PM
Idk what my 0-60 time is. probably about 4.xx seconds, engine makes over 500 horse and 600ft lb. Built the whole drivetrain for less than 2g. How make so much power with 2g? Started with a 390hp/510 ft lb of torque stock big block and did a couple mods.

Yeah but this is jus a daily driver ..... Got a quick car for playing with on the weekends ....

rebelfromva
10-13-2012, 09:18 PM
Key word .... "THINK"!!!

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IT'S a boat! They're huge!

meh. I like to have a lot of room and all that trunk space!

husker77
10-13-2012, 09:19 PM
IT'S a boat! They're huge!

There's some guys hopping them up, all the mustang engine/tranny parts should fit. Twin turbo set up would be cool, no one would ever suspect. The rear suspension looks awful similar to the mustang so I'm sure it could made to hook up.

garretttt4
10-13-2012, 09:22 PM
There's some guys hopping them up, all the mustang engine/tranny parts should fit.

Yeah I just don't really like the looks haha I might keep it but prolly not.... Will for a while no matter what so well see how I like it!

basshead635
10-13-2012, 09:28 PM
Irony:

People who want to go fast & buy a Mustang.

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10-13-2012, 09:30 PM
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05fronty
10-13-2012, 09:32 PM
meh i'm getting a new one

garretttt4
10-13-2012, 09:35 PM
meh i'm getting a new one

A new what?mustang?crown vic?

05fronty
10-13-2012, 09:36 PM
A new what?mustang?crown vic?

stang

garretttt4
10-13-2012, 09:38 PM
stang

Like brand spankin new?
Or like brand spankin used?

05fronty
10-13-2012, 09:40 PM
Like brand spankin new?
Or like brand spankin used?

2013

garretttt4
10-13-2012, 09:41 PM
2013

Gt? How much?

I Like Waffle
10-14-2012, 12:18 AM
Yeah but this is jus a daily driver ..... Got a quick car for playing with on the weekends ....

So leave the v6 in to use it as a daily driver. What is your quick car?

garretttt4
10-14-2012, 01:01 AM
So leave the v6 in to use it as a daily driver. What is your quick car?

It's a 65 ranchero wwith a 351 Windsor ........

skylineTT
10-14-2012, 01:03 AM
he doesn't have a quick car. :P

husker77 a 4v 5.4 in a new edge body will be wall to wall. The valve covers will literally touch the walls of the bay, if they will even fit at all. I'm helping a friend with a twin 62mm 5.4 MMR built lightning swap and it is millimeters from the walls on each side. 1100hp to the wheels ftw though.

garretttt4
10-14-2012, 01:05 AM
he doesn't have a quick car. :P
husker77 a 4v 5.4 in a new edge body will be wall to wall. The valve covers will literally touch the walls of the bay, if they will even fit at all. I'm helping a friend with a twin 62mm 5.4 MMR built lightning swap and it is millimeters from the walls on each side. 1100hp to the wheels ftw though.

Yeah I don't have that much power but I can get the tires off a few inches if I hook up good......

skylineTT
10-14-2012, 01:08 AM
All about that power to weight son! Mine does the same with just a little old 306. :up2somet:

garretttt4
10-14-2012, 01:11 AM
All about that power to weight son! Mine does the same with just a little old 306. :up2somet:

Yeah but I don't really care.... I don't race or anything so it's good enough for me..... Haha

skylineTT
10-14-2012, 01:24 AM
Lol I'll race til I physically can't anymore.

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garretttt4
10-14-2012, 01:28 AM
Lol I'll race til I physically can't anymore.

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Nice!

skylineTT
10-14-2012, 01:34 AM
Yeah, the stock block isn't gonna take it for too long though. Gotta find a Dart/Boss block soon.

garretttt4
10-14-2012, 02:20 AM
Yeah, the stock block isn't gonna take it for too long though. Gotta find a Dart/Boss block soon.

Nice hahaha sounds fun!

husker77
10-14-2012, 08:03 AM
husker77 a 4v 5.4 in a new edge body will be wall to wall. The valve covers will literally touch the walls of the bay, if they will even fit at all. I'm helping a friend with a twin 62mm 5.4 MMR built lightning swap and it is millimeters from the walls on each side. 1100hp to the wheels ftw though.

I understand that, I've seen a couple in mags, never in person. I wish the v10 had a better crank design or someone would come up with an affordable aftermarket one. I have seen a couple of those swapped into stangs also, but the crank is weak, I think 800hp is about the limit on them.

Of course people don't realize how fast a true 400hp street car is.

skylineTT
10-14-2012, 02:50 PM
yeah, that is true. 700 to the ground through an auto is honestly very hard to make streetable in a car that came with 2-400 from the factory.

I Like Waffle
10-14-2012, 06:36 PM
My little 468 stroker and built 2004r gnx trans :yumyum:




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FineLinePimpin
12-30-2012, 06:17 PM
I didnt read through all four pages but its a useless swap...03 crown vic..we all crown vic motor is a 4.6 2v and makes no more than 230hp. Your v6 can make that with mods. if you are going to do a v8 swap then get the v8 thats supposed to be in there...the 4.6 3v. Unless the car is under 3k bucks and in awesome shape its still not worth it. You will need engine, harness,guage cluster,ecu,fuel system, rear end, complete front accersory drive and not to mention the a/c system if you want it...drive shaft and transmission. Also a 32v 5.4 will fit with no problem with proper mounts and k member...been done MANY times.

Timmy13091
12-30-2012, 07:43 PM
So one of my buddies has a blown 04 mustang with a auto v6 in it that he said he'd sell me cheap. I was thinking about taking the engine out of my gmas 03 crown Vic. 4.6l v8. It's supposedly the same engine as the mustang gt with lower gears...... If I did would the motor mounts and transmission mounts match without any modifications? Or would they be off since the v6 is smaller?

I've seen these swaps done under 500 dollars ... Your local salvage/Junkyard has basically everything you'll need .. And you could even think about supercharging the motor already in there also very cheap if its the 3.8 you can get a gtp or regal bonivele ..etc 3.8 supercharger used very cheap they go bad quite often so market is pretty big.. And they sell the kit online with everything else ull need and there cheap also ..

Timmy13091
12-30-2012, 10:14 PM
My little 468 stroker and built 2004r gnx trans :yumyum:




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FineLinePimpin
12-30-2012, 10:53 PM
I donty know why but i thought you said it was a later model stang then you said..so yeah it is a 2v swap.

ThatChevyGuy
01-01-2013, 10:14 PM
Nope