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NightScreams
08-04-2012, 11:46 AM
Any opinions of the Alpine type x component set? saw some online for $360, How are they in comparison to others for this price?

imp4pdabest
08-04-2012, 11:50 AM
Heard them in 2 different setups before. For $300 + I would not even consider those comps. Much much better can be had for that price range.

kramer_212
08-04-2012, 11:51 AM
Heard them in 2 different setups before. For $300 + I would not even consider those comps. Much much better can be had for that price range.

examples?

Bobfig
08-05-2012, 08:13 PM
HAT Imagine I61-2V2
massive audio ck6x

zako
08-06-2012, 08:19 PM
Alpine Type-X never had stellar reviews, and by now they're quite outdated. Their known to have some of the best tweeters, but woofers are average. IMO, there are many other fine speakers for the same price or less:

Hybrid Audio Imagine (if you run active or diy bi-amp)
Hybrid Audio Unity
JBL MS-62C

I just mentioned them on this thread:

www.caraudio.com/forums/speakers/552694-polk-db6501-vs-image-dynamic-ctx-6-5cs-rockford-fosgate-t2652-s.html

NightScreams
08-06-2012, 09:33 PM
thanks, i'll ditch the type x idea. I'm not familar with hybrid. I guess what i'm wanting is something with some punchiness in the midbass. Due to space constraints, i will not be using any sub larger than a single 8" at best this time around. So i hoped to get the most out of midbass performance from the components..not sure how else to explain...best SQ that hits for a component? lol..... How is the JL C5's midbass performance?

so Keeping it simple, small and light this time, so i'm trying for something most effective without eating space and i'm assuming some good components, maybe an JL HD 5 channel amp, possibly XD and sound deadning will upscale the sound enough to make up for lack of deep bass. I do have a Maxxbass processor in my garage but doubt i'll be willing to try that again.
Got some decent wires too this time, knuconcpts flex 4 gauge and some tsunami and stinger triple shielded silver clad RCA's. Currently using Schosche brand wires.

zako
08-07-2012, 12:18 AM
Hybrid Audio Imagines have great midbass. They're not just loud but also quite delicate. They have 12mm peak-to-peak xmax excursion. My primary concern with them is to stop door panel from rattling. They can easily be high passed at 60Hz@24dB (that's the manual recommendation) without sounding harsh or sloppy. HAT Unity uses the same woofer but with a more robust passive crossover if you need it. These are one of the best if not the best $350 speakers. For higher price you can also look into Focal Polyglass 165 V30 or Hybrid Audio Clarus (even beefier driver). A forum regular compared HAT Imagine and C5. There is a review in the archives. According to that review, they're about the same level, with a lot of people split on which one is the best. Back then HAT Imagine did have the advantage of costing just $250 or less when on sale. It looks like the new Imagine V2 version is priced at $300. I have no idea what has changed since the original was released. I have the original version in bi-amp setup. In passive setup Unity should probably be better.

For the lower budget, I have heard that people who tested the new JBL MS speakers liked them a lot too, and considered them very good value for that price. Another speaker set with good midbass driver is Massive Audio CK6. These actually have stronger midbass than Imagines according to reviews while still keeping the mounting depth at reasonable 2.75 inches.

Having said that, I don't think that 8 inch sub will deliver less mid-bass than a bigger one. In the midbass region, the excursion requirement is lower than in deep bass, so the small sub should be able to keep up. Also most bigger subwoofers do not play well or loud in the mid-bass region to begin with. I have experimented a lot and decided 50-60Hz low pass frequency works best for most 12 inch subs as they get too recessed, or too sloppy or too punchy above that. The frequency region where the 8 inch subwoofer will run into trouble is the body massaging deep bass. You can get more out of 8inch in a specially tuned vented box, but most still need a tuning frequency too high to play the deepest bass.

TreyE
08-07-2012, 08:13 AM
Focal K2