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gckless
07-19-2012, 05:17 AM
Here is my first real build. Took a lot of prep work and research. Mostly satisfied with the visual results so far. Haven't set gains yet, need to do that tomorrow. Right now they are only 1/4 of the way up, and the sub I have not really turned up that far.

Work wasn't too bad, but there were a few things I missed. I installed the baffle upside down. If you look close you will see the sub is off center. I also forgot to stain the top and bottom of the inside of the port.

Oh, lol, almost forgot. I had to redo the speaker connections. The first time I did it, I got everything done, turned it all on, and the head unit was going into protect mode. I was like ****, I know I didn't connect anything backwards. So a quick Google search revealed how much of an idiot I am. I dove back in behind the head unit, and turns out I wired the 9 conductor speedwire from the 4 channel amp to the head unit, instead of to the speakers lol. So had to redo those, luckily I had spare butt connectors.

Besides that, I think it turned out alright. I wanted to try to stain it, as I don't see that alot. Plus I figured if it didn't turn out well I could go back and carpet it. I probably won't be doing that again though. Too much work. Carpet is so much easier.

Some pictures are attached.

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gckless
07-19-2012, 05:29 AM
Here are a couple more I had to resize.

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Front component speakers are next. Anyone have any recommendations? My budget is about $150 for the front pair. I'm not positive on the mounting depth, but I would like to keep it as shallow as possible just to be safe. They are 6.5".

keep_hope_alive
07-19-2012, 09:57 AM
interesting amp mount. what drove you to choose the back seat and not the trunk?

At that price, either used or the basic brands.

gckless
07-19-2012, 06:34 PM
interesting amp mount. what drove you to choose the back seat and not the trunk?

At that price, either used or the basic brands.

I was a little concerned about the heat. I am quite paranoid when it comes to electronics and heat. I wasn't going to at first, until I noticed that the armrest that was there had some bolts at the bottom that came out. Luckily the larger amp fit right in there. That, and I didn't want to lose too much trunk just yet. For my next build, I'm pretty sure the trunk will disappear though. But all I did was cut a peice of wood to mount to the back of where the armrest was, cut up a old seat cover I had to upholster it so there wasn't bare wood showing, and mounted the amps to that. I like the way it looks. The only thing I am worried about is the right side passenger seat and the wiring. I don't haul people around too much though.

gckless
07-22-2012, 01:37 AM
Well, toasted the sub amp, removed it and sunk the 4 channel back into it's spot in the ski pass. Going to be ordering an AQ2200D very shortly.

I do have a question about amp mounting position. I want to put the new amp on a board sitting right in front of my sub. I'm talking, maybe an inch between the sub and amp. Am I going to have issues with either woofer excursion clearance, or with the amp due to vibrations? I could put the amp behind the sub box, but I would prefer to display it.

gckless
09-09-2012, 04:57 AM
Time for an update.

Here is some work I have done and how the trunk currently stands:

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Here are some photos for what I am going to be doing:

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Thanks to @mylows10 for the amp and @Buck for the box design. The amp rack design was done by me. Was at the woodshop today and came home with this:

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And a quick mock-up to make sure I didn't totally botch something:

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Hoping to wrap each in carpet. Got some work ahead of me.

gckless
09-09-2012, 05:06 AM
Not really sure how to mention. Could someone bring in Mylows10 and Buck?

VisceralSound
09-09-2012, 05:15 AM
mylows10 ;

Buck ;

mylows10
09-09-2012, 09:51 AM
You are so very welcome

Buck
09-09-2012, 04:15 PM
:wave:

What up, yo?

gckless
09-13-2012, 06:46 AM
I finally got my DC Power alternator I ordered 2 months ago! It seemed like about 6 months. But it looks nice. Also, I originally ordered a 230A alt. I opened the box today, and the tag says it's a 270A!! I don't know if they mistagged it or if they sent a 270A on purpose, but I'm not going to be asking questions! Lol.

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Got the amp rack together, just need to drill some holes for a voltage meter, a switch for the fans, and all the wires, and then carpet it. First got to pull my DC 2.0k out of my trunk to do a mock-up this weekend before I drill holes. Only thing I am worried about is how close it is to the sub box. I think I'll be alright though.

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Sub box should hopefully be coming together this weekend as well. Got a typhoon to ride out, so I'll be locked in the house. No one to invite me out boozin to pull me away :D
Not like I mind though....

Jroo
09-13-2012, 08:26 AM
never seen an amp mounted that way. Seems like a complete hassle for anyone trying to sit in the back seat and a sign to anyone to say "steal me," Im right in the open and easy to get out quickly.

gckless
09-13-2012, 08:40 AM
never seen an amp mounted that way. Seems like a complete hassle for anyone trying to sit in the back seat and a sign to anyone to say "steal me," Im right in the open and easy to get out quickly.

Nah, much better than it looks. Passengers have enough room, and trust me, it's hard for even me to take in and out. The amp has to be mounted to the board first, then mounted to the ski pass, and taken off in the reverse order. It's the way the bolts fit in and how it's mounted, so for someone who had no idea how it was on there, it would take a good half hour, if not longer, provided they remove it properly and don't bust it. And I'm not in an area where I am worried about anything getting stolen.

Don't matter though, that amp is disappearing soon, replaced by the 175.4 that will be in the trunk. A step up in all departments :D

gckless
09-24-2012, 08:38 AM
Got my DC Power 270XP alternator installed, been running great, albeit with very little draw. Only have a 50.4 for front/rear speakers in there now.

Made progress on the box and amp too. I have been working a ton, so haven't had a whole lot of time, it's been going slow. But got everything carpeted and wired (what is not in my trunk anyway), and pretty much just waiting on the DC Level 3's to be built and shipped here before I throw all this in my trunk. Wired all the fans under the amps to that switch, and it works well. That voltage meter I threw in there in the middle of the amps for tuning pretty much, but I think it looks pretty good too.

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Thinking about picking up a Pioneer 80PRS pretty soon, this Kenwood KDC-448U that I have isn't going to cut it as far as sound goes. We'll see where my gains end up, but from the low output I had it set to before, gain was up way higher than I would like. This HU only has 2V outs. Figured I might as well get a better HU, rather than spend a good chunk of that money on a line driver. I do like the interface and controls on this one though; easy and work well.

Starting to run out of room for attachments. Looks like I'll be creating a photobucket account pretty soon.

nateberrier
09-24-2012, 08:41 AM
I would save up for a head gasket with that car Just Sayin'

gckless
10-20-2012, 07:23 AM
Got some new equipment in:

CDT HD-62CF
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/CDT%20HD62%20CF/DSC_3696.jpg

New tweeters compared to old
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/CDT%20HD62%20CF/DSC_3719.jpg

Pioneer DEH-80PRS
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/Pioneer%20DEH-80PRS/DSC_3702.jpg

Installed
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/Pioneer%20DEH-80PRS/DSC_3723.jpg

Got my amp rack wired up and installed as well
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/2000%20Subaru%20Legacy%20B4/DSC_3725.jpg


Still waiting on the two DC Level 3 10's to come in, as well as some AT 60 mil deadener to do my doors. Cutting up some spare sail panels I got from the junkyard for my tweeters now. Car's leaking oil, she'll be in the shop sometime this week :crying:

gckless
10-20-2012, 11:57 PM
Got my tweeters installed in the sail panels.

My dremel skills need work :/
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/CDT%20HD62%20CF/DSC_3727.jpg

Didn't have paint, so used sharpie. Worked well!
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/CDT%20HD62%20CF/DSC_3728.jpg

In the panel
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/CDT%20HD62%20CF/DSC_3729.jpg
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http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/CDT%20HD62%20CF/DSC_3731.jpg

They are aimed across the seats, directly at the opposite headrest. I tacked them with superglue and hot glue each.

04murdalanche
10-21-2012, 12:05 AM
Nice equipment, you should throw a lil bondo on the sail panels to clean them up.

gckless
10-21-2012, 01:31 AM
Nice equipment, you should throw a lil bondo on the sail panels to clean them up.

Thanks. They really could use some molding, but this will do for now. Might go back later and tidy it up.

04murdalanche
10-21-2012, 01:43 AM
Thanks. They really could use some molding, but this will do for now. Might go back later and tidy it up.

Definitely a great start man, keep it up.

gckless
10-22-2012, 05:55 AM
FINALLLYYYYYYYYYYYY got them!

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/DC%20Audio%20Level%203%2010-inch/DSC_3752.jpg
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And some merch to boot :)
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/DC%20Audio%20Level%203%2010-inch/DSC_3773.jpg


DC Level 3 10's. These are pretty subs. They look so good inverted! Can't wait to get these in. Probably not until the weekend though.

Also going to be ordering some speaker grill cloth to cover my tweeters/sail panels. I think that's the way to go with them.

gckless
10-23-2012, 06:06 AM
Dropped the subs in the box:

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I really like these binding posts:
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/DC%20Audio%20Level%203%2010-inch/DSC_3791.jpg

I get them from Parts Express. They're a little expensive for posts, I think like $8, but they are real good quality, accept bare wire or banana plugs, and have solder tabs on the inside that I was able to fit 10ga through. Easy to put in too, just drill a hole and pound them in with a hammer.

Wanted to put them in the car tonight, but it's in the shop getting the tappet gasket replaced.

gckless
10-24-2012, 03:30 PM
Dropped the subs in the car yesterday. Was honestly expecting more output, but it's not too bad. Subs weren't movin THAT much, maybe I just need to give them time to loosen. I set gains for 43V with a 50Hz -3dB test tone.

Blew my stock right front midbass also. Guess that's what I get for running them off a DC 175.4 :crap:. I did only have it set for 50W though. CDT's are going in as soon as I get the AT deadener and some time.

gckless
10-26-2012, 05:49 AM
Got my subs in the trunk finally:

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/DSC_3797.jpg
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Box and amp rack fit absolutely perfect. They sound decent and have decent output, but I guess I was expecting more. They don't hit the lows super well, and I'm having trouble on getting gains up high safely, but that's in another thread. They definitely are better than my last 12" RE though, so any improvement is a success in my book. Definitely have some rattles to hunt down now.

Already thinking of my next substage. I think I can get a 15 with two 12 PR's in there :naughty:

Still waiting on AT deadener to put the CDT's in.

gckless
10-26-2012, 07:49 AM
Forgot to ask: you guys think I would get more output with the box firing forward? I cannot fold the seats down, it takes some work, so I only have the ski pass to open.

gckless
11-02-2012, 12:03 AM
Here's a quick vid. Turn down your volume.

Two DC Audio 10" Level 3's - YouTube (http://youtu.be/27k3AKSMnF4)

They get movin a decent amount, I think. I have no flex to speak of besides my trunk lid rattling, so that's why it's not in the video lol. Anyone have an advice to my previous question? Was also thinkin about possibly a 4th order with 12's with a port through the ski pass, but not sure I have enough room. I really have no idea what I want for my next build, but I do know I want more output.

mylows10
11-02-2012, 12:12 AM
more batts gilbert ,maybe even a bigger amp.just have to play around with it.looks good tho

gckless
11-02-2012, 01:01 AM
You think I need more batts? I'm only diving down to the mid 13's. I was thinkin possibly a 3.5k, and would definitely add more batts then.

gckless
11-03-2012, 03:14 AM
Wrapped the sail panels with some grill cloth. Some hot glue on the back did the trick.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/CDT%20HD62%20CF/DSC_3805.jpg
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Still waiting on the AT deadener to get here to put them in.

Dtrom
11-03-2012, 03:58 AM
Looks good them subs are purty

gckless
11-04-2012, 01:39 AM
Looks good them subs are purty

Thanks. Wanted to mount them inverted once I seen em but they wouldn't have fit.

I was eyeing a couple 3.5k's around here but got no cash now. Throwout bearing is squealing like a bish :crap:

Got some plans in my head that involve those new Z v.4's once they come out :nerd:

gckless
12-31-2012, 02:20 AM
I just turned my box around, now forward firing. Below 45Hz, it seems louder to my ear. Above 50Hz though, it's not as loud. Before when it was rear-firing, about 50-70Hz would just barely start to tickle and grab my throat (anyone know about what dB this happens at?). I am not getting that sensation at all now with it forward firing. Although it's not as loud in the higher sub frequencies, it does blend better with the system overall. Anyone going for SQ should definitely try turning their box around to see how they like it.

Just wanted to give a quick update, maybe this will help some people. Will be tearing everything out tomorrow, as I am preparing to sell this car and move back to the states.

militarymisfit
12-31-2012, 06:32 AM
Yo Gekless, you're in Japan right? How is the scene over there for car audio? How do people react to hearing it/ seeing it? Is it like it is back in the states? Just always wondered about stuff like that. You know, how different countries/ cultures compare to home.

gckless
12-31-2012, 06:39 AM
Yo Gekless, you're in Japan right? How is the scene over there for car audio? How do people react to hearing it/ seeing it? Is it like it is back in the states? Just always wondered about stuff like that. You know, how different countries/ cultures compare to home.

I'm in Okinawa, and it's not that big. I haven't really found too many guys, there's only 2 shops here that I know of, and the one is a joke. They do some good install work here, but don't take it to the level we do with comps and stuff. Might be different up in mainland, but here it's more for show than for actually sounding good in my experience.

militarymisfit
12-31-2012, 06:46 AM
I figured it would be bigger in OKI with all the active duty guys there and relatively small size of the island.

How's the hobby shops there? They just shut one of ours down. Now there's only one on the whole island, and it's 24 miles away on a different base on the other side of the island.

gckless
12-31-2012, 06:50 AM
I figured it would be bigger in OKI with all the active duty guys there and relatively small size of the island.

How's the hobby shops there? They just shut one of ours down. Now there's only one on the whole island, and it's 24 miles away on a different base on the other side of the island.

The hobby shop aren't bad man, honestly I haven't done a whole lot of mechanical work to need one, but the one here on Kadena is like 8 bays, and there's a bigger one on an Army camp. Seems like you do all your own work, but if you want something done, the japanese guys here know their cars and aren't too expensive. I got a clutch swapped out for like $500.

militarymisfit
12-31-2012, 06:58 AM
500?! Was that including the clutch or just for the work?

I've been trying to get stationed out there for years. There' only four of us coasties out there though, so It's a fierce battle to get one of those positions. Closest I could get was Guam. So now I have to take leave to get there.

Oh, I aslo saw three computer fans in one of your photos. Did you install them on your amp rack or something?

gckless
12-31-2012, 07:07 AM
500?! Was that including the clutch or just for the work?

I've been trying to get stationed out there for years. There' only four of us coasties out there though, so It's a fierce battle to get one of those positions. Closest I could get was Guam. So now I have to take leave to get there.

Oh, I aslo saw three computer fans in one of your photos. Did you install them on your amp rack or something?

$500 for just work. I ordered the clutch from amazon, just an OEM Exedy. They quoted $2k for clutch and work. Japan can be expensive :/

Everyone that I know that has been to Guam has loved it. Been trying to get a TDY there for a while.

The 3 pieces on the side are 80mm filters. I have 2 120mm fans underneath each amp, with a switch mounted on the amp rack to turn them on and off. Here's a picture I took today when I flipped the box:
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/2000%20Subaru%20Legacy%20B4/DSC_4118_zpsbf770268.jpg

militarymisfit
12-31-2012, 07:27 AM
Man, you weren't kidding when you said you were paranoid about electronics. Not many people would've added the filters. Good call, I like it. Ever think about adding a temp probe/switch? That way they would kick on and off automatically.

gckless
12-31-2012, 07:32 AM
Man, you weren't kidding when you said you were paranoid about electronics. Not many people would've added the filters. Good call, I like it. Ever think about adding a temp probe/switch? That way they would kick on and off automatically.

Dude, I work around electronics everyday. Paranoid is an understatement. I even considered trying out a watercooling project. Luckily I thought better of it lol. I did think about the thermostat, but it was about $80 more than a switch, and in the summer it would be hard to find a temperature where it wasn't running all the time, or running at all. Gets real hot in trunks around here, I'm sure you know. So switch works fine, wired it into my relay so it gets power only when the HU is on. When it was hot I had the switch on all the time, now it's off all the time.

gckless
01-01-2013, 02:17 AM
And this concludes this build log:

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/gckless/2000%20Subaru%20Legacy%20B4/DSC_4124_zpsf425dea3.jpg

Ripped all wiring out, only thing left is to replace the 80PRS with the old HU, and replace the DC 270XP with the old alt. Car will be sold shortly.

Lookin forward to my next build!