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DatAudio
07-15-2012, 05:55 PM
I have an 06 Malibu and Im in progress of getting my first system. My question is: would a kenwood kdc x496, rockford fosgate p2 2x12, and a RF t500-1bdcp amp be a good build?

DatAudio
07-15-2012, 06:05 PM
Any input is appreciated.

plantinseeds
07-15-2012, 06:18 PM
Sounds good to me, unless you are looking to move some air. Also should say that their are alot better alternatives to the Rockford sub though. Whats your budget?

05trailblazer
07-15-2012, 06:23 PM
i doubt it. what are your main goals?

DatAudio
07-15-2012, 07:07 PM
A grand. I'm just looking for something that sounds good and hits a bit.

keep_hope_alive
07-15-2012, 08:09 PM
i think you could go with Sundown amp and subs and be better off for the same money.

murph
07-15-2012, 08:12 PM
No that is not a good build. Let us know your alt size and age of battery up front. Also how much space you have for the subs because the box makes the subs.

av83
07-15-2012, 08:40 PM
A grand. I'm just looking for something that sounds good and hits a bit.

You can definitely do a he11 of a lot better with that much dough. I'd get a nice used deck, there's some killer ones on the classifieds here for around 100. There's plenty of good power wire for sale cheap here, too, although some knuconcepts or audiotechnix cca 1/0 would be fine and isn't expensive at all. Get enough to do your big three, and a lil extra just in case. Get some ring terminals off ebay. Rca's are everywhere for under 20 bucks. That gets your h/u and wiring out of the way for less than $250. 750 for subs, and amp will get you something pretty decent here, too.

keep_hope_alive
07-15-2012, 09:08 PM
i would run this before the P2's

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DatAudio
07-16-2012, 12:10 AM
I kind of already got all the equipment for this setup. I've got all professional wiring and I'm getting it all hooked up by a pro. I also had to get a special malibu kit for the information system. So basically I'm asking if I'll be disappointed. Any further feedback or tips would be awesome. All brand new everything.

quackhead
07-16-2012, 12:25 AM
I kind of already got all the equipment for this setup. I've got all professional wiring and I'm getting it all hooked up by a pro. I also had to get a special malibu kit for the information system. So basically I'm asking if I'll be disappointed. Any further feedback or tips would be awesome. All brand new everything.

you won't be disappointed til someone with a pair of obsidian 12's and audiopipe ASPM 1300 blows u doors off...and to know they spent only $400

---------- Post added at 10:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 PM ----------


I kind of already got all the equipment for this setup. I've got all professional wiring and I'm getting it all hooked up by a pro. I also had to get a special malibu kit for the information system. So basically I'm asking if I'll be disappointed. Any further feedback or tips would be awesome. All brand new everything.

you won't be disappointed til someone with a pair of obsidian 12's and audiopipe ASPM 1300 blows u doors off...and to know they spent only $400

DatAudio
07-16-2012, 12:41 AM
There's always going to be bigger and better haha

quackhead
07-16-2012, 03:03 AM
there's always going to be cheaper and better haha

*fixed

DatAudio
07-16-2012, 05:17 AM
Can't win em all man. I've heard my buddies similar build to this and I think it'll do what I'm looking for.

DoesDad
07-16-2012, 07:36 AM
Can't win em all man. I've heard my buddies similar build to this and I think it'll do what I'm looking for.

Then why did you ask?

quackhead
07-16-2012, 11:24 AM
Can't win em all man. I've heard my buddies similar build to this and I think it'll do what I'm looking for.

Man, It all comes down to what you want and what sounds good to you. Personally, I think the T500BDcp is a excellent choice, just a little overpriced for what you get...The AP i mentioned is total junk that does close to rated power. I was just making a point. And yes for a few hundred less, better can be had.

shpatb
07-16-2012, 12:23 PM
I feel like I just wasted 5 mins of my life I can never get back... Here I thought we were helping him get a pretty sweet system for a grand and that all went out the door. :banghead:

DatAudio
07-16-2012, 03:00 PM
I heard it after i started this thread and I would still like to hear more advice or tips on tuning or anything really.

DatAudio
07-16-2012, 03:03 PM
Well I'm glad you guys are trying to help me but it doesn't really help when I already have all this equipment. I just want to know more about them and others opinions.

TheUnderFighter
07-16-2012, 04:09 PM
Well it's mediocre equipment at way too expensive prices. And if you paid a grand for all of it and getting installed, you got ripped off.
Next time you ask an opinion, don't buy the crappy equipment before you do so.
The best thing you could do at this point is return it all. For $1,000 you could have one very nice system.



keep_hope_alive you would run this sub before the P2s? Interesting....


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quackhead
07-16-2012, 04:38 PM
Well I'm glad you guys are trying to help me but it doesn't really help when I already have all this equipment. I just want to know more about them and others opinions.

Hmm..well, the subs are mediocre at best for what they are. Not too sure about the tuning of the factory junk box (5/8" MDF). Probably tuned to 40hz or so to maximize the punch 45hz bass boos circuitry in their amps. They will make a little noise though. Too bad you bought the D4 subs because the 500 Bdcp is a good 2ohm amp that will work at 1ohm, but does not put out any more wattage at 1ohm and actually loses 11% of it's efficiency at that impedance. Bad choice of subs/amp combo. The KW is meh, ok for 140 bucks.

keep_hope_alive
07-18-2012, 12:46 AM
Sorry, we misunderstood as you asking about equipment before you buy. Once you have it, our opinion doesn't matter. Are you happy?

keep_hope_alive
07-18-2012, 12:48 AM
I also like the RF BDCP series amps, pricey but darn good.

If you need help on specific setups, we would want to see install pics.

DatAudio
07-18-2012, 01:51 AM
I get it all setup on saturday and will defiantly let you guys know what I think of it. Any advice on tuning, flexing or any other stuff? I'm pretty new to this stuff.

keep_hope_alive
07-18-2012, 02:33 PM
the installer should take care of all tuning. you shouldn't have to change/adjust anything on the amp. but take non-blurry pics of the amp settings after you get the car back and we can evaluate/review.

you should take care with the volume control. in the end, your use of the volume control will determine if you damage your gear. note that you can only be so loud with a given system/investment.

post pics of the end results (we like pics showing wiring routing/connections). ask the installer to take pics during install (this will keep him honest).

the Kenwood has built-in high pass filters for the speakers - make sure these are turned on (will be set around 80Hz-100Hz) depending on the sub amp low pass filter. you do have some tuning ability in the HU, but as a general rule - an eq should be used to cut frequency peaks, not boost. boosting increases change for clipping (by causing clipping at a lower HU volume).

your stock speakers should sound much better on the Kenwood HU (compared to stock HU) but won't sound great. if you hear distortion in the speakers, that's inherent with any head unit amplifier above 1/2 volume or so. you shouldn't need to boost any bass EQ settings since you have subs now.

when you get it installed, read the manual for the HU control/features/setting. if you have any specific questions on HU settings, ask.

shpatb
07-18-2012, 02:48 PM
I get it all setup on saturday and will defiantly let you guys know what I think of it. Any advice on tuning, flexing or any other stuff? I'm pretty new to this stuff.

I wouldn't worry about flexing with what you got.

DatAudio
07-19-2012, 06:22 AM
I'll make sure to take a loud of pictures for you guys. Ya I figured on going easy on the volume to try to find a good volume that won't damage anything. Don't I need to adjust the amp after a while? Thanks alot

murph
07-19-2012, 06:30 AM
Head unit should clip after 25 so don't go above that.

gckless
07-19-2012, 06:37 AM
Head unit should clip after 25 so don't go above that.


This is about correct. I have a Kenwood 448U, and depending on your EQ, anywhere from 23 to about 28 or 29 will start to give you clipping. At that volume, your full range should be easily overpowered by your subwoofer.

I do need to upgrade to one of the Excelon units though...

DatAudio
07-21-2012, 03:41 PM
This build sounds amazing! I'll post pics later if anyone wants to see the job they did.