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BreakingBad
07-13-2012, 01:48 PM
First and foremost this is simply a thread to openly discuss how this transaction was completed and what the end result was to avoid any he said/she said issues. This isn't a positive outcome for the buyer apparently, but unfortunately due to the circumstances surrounding the purchase there's not much that can be done:

Was contacted by rebelfromva to purchase a Deka G31 battery I had for sale. Retails over $200+, was selling for $65 + shipping (@68lbs). After a few PM's Jon decided to buy the battery. I provided a total cost with shipping, but rebelfromva insisted I use his shipping service - which apparently was via a friend or contact who had access to shipping via UPS freight, or something similar (this was not the typical UPS ground). I received a UPS shipping document at my home address to send the item and shipped it from my work location.

Anyway, item was generally overlooked to ensure no obvious issues (item is pictured in my thread), packed in a sturdy box with tons of bubblewrap. We exchanged #'s/gave him my work cell to ensure nothing went wrong. I kept in contact during every step of the shipping process to show good faith.

rebelfromva received the item, and around 10PM I received a text (on my work phone for that matter) saying the post was 'broke off' from the battery. i ask a few questions, eventually receive a picture message (this is around 11PM) and although I was in bed I attempted to assist him with his concern. after seeing the picture message, the post wasn't in fact broke off, the top of it had a 'chip' as if someone was using a wrench a bit too hard, dropped it, etc. there didn't seem to be any indication the battery was non-functional and had plenty of room for a terminal. this conversation goes back and forth for a bit, but i explain to him although I didn't take a magnifying glass to the item before shipping, i believed it to be non-damaged prior to shipping (as image indicates). later that night or the next day ( i can't remember which ) i receive another text saying the OTHER post was 'spinning in place' and he couldn't get the nut off the post. I immediately thought 'does he not realize he can use a wrench to hold the post while he unscrews the nut?' - keep in mind, this is me assuming the battery was damaged somehow.

After bringing all this up, he specifically said in a PM 'it's cool, he'll 'deal with it' just didn't know what to do (essentially saying deal is completed, he understood the issues and would resolve himself). I took a decent amount of time and found him multiple resources online on how to replace posts in a battery, other options if he didn't want to attempt a fix himself, he can file a claim with UPS as UPS may have damaged or dropped it in transit, that he could re-sell it if he didn't want to fix it, etc. Due to the extreme weight of the item and the fact that there was no insurance purchased on the item (due to him insisting on using his own method of shipping) along with the fact there is no way to 100% positively indicate where the 'damage' occurred (prior to or after shipping), I explained I cannot accept the item back due to those reasons. I also explained I did not see any damage upon my inspection, and the battery pictured in my thread was the one that i shipped to buyer (as i had 2 for sale).

After more PM's, rebelfromva would essentially not acknowledge most of what I said and would reply back as if we hadn't discussed anything as far as getting his problem resolved. After sending him an almost 1 or 2 page response to explain what his options were, he simply responded 'i tried calling places nobody will fix it now what?' - even knowing I JUST sent him a message letting him know other options (ups claim, resell it, etc.) I went above and beyond to help him because i understood that the item was apparently in non-perfect condition, with the possibility of it being damaged after being received. Item WAS tested with multimeter and functional before shipping. From his responses I believe he was simply ignoring my help and trying to elude to myself being the source of the damage rather than acknowledge my help, understand the situation, take responsibility and deal with it like he promised me in a previous message.

I DO want to stress that his payment was prompt, communication at first was good, but the second issues apparently arose, the quality of the interaction on his end went downhill. I do not believe this warrants a negative review for rebelfromva, but at the same time I personally wouldn't do business again because of the negative outcome (not necessarily his fault). I do feel though rebelfromva should have attempted to think more about his options, acknowledged my help and stood by his word that he would 'deal with it', especially after he refused my shipping option (which was with insurance). He has not asked to return the item, but I did explain that returning it was not an option due to the circumstances. I also was essentially forced to stop responding to his PM's because they were erratic, again not acknowledging my responses and was basically pointing fingers whether directly or indirectly. I advised him I was considering the deal over with, completed, primarily due to the fact there is no way to know where supposed damage occurred, he declined my shipping (which would've had insurance) and told me he would deal with it himself.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 02:13 PM
You also said in your thread you only had pic of 1 batt bc one was packed away. If it were the shipping companies fault there would be the chipped part of the post inside the shipping box as the package was not damaged as I sent to you via pm. I said I would deal with it in trying your method of getting it fixed but after research my options came up short on the actual situation that is wrong with the battery.

PMs shared
me to breakingbad all were made after told to return to pms and not texting

1)Well you seen the pics. I'm not trying to be an *** or out to get anyone but as of right now I can't use this batt. If I can fix it that's cool and I'd really like to fix it lol bc it is a beast of a batt. Let me know your thoughts

2)I looked around and couldn't find a specific video on repairing the post like the one on this batt. I don't see how I'm going to get the one post out or the nut off of it if it's just spinning in the batt terminal hole.

3)I understand the chipped post part but what about the other terminal that is just spinning in the battery?

4)what I'm saying is in that one pic with the nut still on the post. The nut is stuck on the post and the post is just spinning in place. I don't think its going to come off therefore it not able to be used. I'm not trying to scam you or anyone else on here. Haven't really had any problems on here at all. I just want to figure out how I am going to fix it so I can use it.

5)Called around and local battery places say they don't fix that. Just double checked the inside of the box for broken off post pieces and came up with nothing. The package was pretty well packed I must say so idk how it would have gotten messed up during shipping and then to leave no evidence at that?

6)You said in your post one batt was already packaged up so that's why you only had pics of one of the batts. If you look at the pic of the post with the nut on it you will notice there is no room to put a wrench, pliers, clamp, etc on it so how do you suggest I get it off? You keep saying its an easy fix, if so why am I having trouble finding info on how to fix battery post and an actual battery store does not fix them?


From breakingbad to me in response

1)Well, looking at it from my perspective to protect my own *** I should have inspected it before just packing it up and shipping it out, and because of that is why I offered to shoot you a few bucks to cover materials to fix it. From an objective point of view the damage could've occurred prior to shipping, during shipping, or after you received it. Those are the 3 possibilities. Now I'm not saying you intentionally damaged it by any means, nor am I blaming UPS, but those are the possibilities and there is no real way to determine where the damage occurred -for sure-...

These batteries retail for over $200...a lot have them for $240+. Even if you paid $40 in shipping charges, you got the battery for less than half of retail. Being you used someone with access to shipping via ups worldship, you probably didn't pay that much. All in all, 70/80 bucks for a $250 battery is a hell of a deal.

I would suggest contacting a local audio install shop or specialty shop to see if they will do the repair for you if you don't want to fix it yourself. All it requires is some tools and the ability to want to do things yourself...it's literally a couple dollars for the parts and maybe 20 30 minutes of your time from what I saw, you just need to take the time, read the walk throughts, watch the videos, etc. A quick google search pulled up at least a half dozen youtube videos where they will step by step show you how to do it.

I understand the position this puts you in, having a battery you cannot use. It's a rock and a hard spot, I really do apologize but it honestly is just one of those things where there's no real way to resolve it being it's 2nd hand equipment, sold as-is and the damage could've occurred anywhere. I really do suggest you just repair the post yourself, it's not a very in-depth task and as a worse case if you don't want to deal with it, post it up for sale here. I'm sure someone with the know how would take it off your hands and repair it if you sold it for $50 or something. If you really want to pursue it via UPS, you can file a claim with them as well. I'm sorry it turned out like this, but at this point the deal is done, nothing I can do beyond getting you a few dollars as a courtesy to help cover materials to fix. Send me your paypal e-mail if you want me to shoot you $5, otherwise like I said your options are repair it yourself, contact a 3rd party to do the repairs, file a claim with UPS or re-sell it. You have 4 options...good luck and again sorry for the inconvenience.

2)Listen, as a courtesy I acknowledged your concern and attempted to help but bottom line there are people out there who's sole goal is to scam people, especially off forums, ebay, craigslist, etc. I have no idea who you are, so I can't trust you and you can't trust me. It's basically a rock and a hard spot like I told you in my last message. I did not intentionally try to sell you damaged equipment. From what I saw when I shipped it out, it was in good condition/not damaged. I've went above and beyond giving you tips on how to handle the situation, but it's $60 battery with a chipped post (that could've occurred anywhere), and to be honest from your pictures there's enough room to attach power wire w/terminal anyway...if you want things to be perfect, get it repaired. If not utilize what you got or i suggest filing a claim with UPS or re-sell it to someone who will take the time to fix it.

3)Use a multimeter and test the voltage. As long as the voltage is in range, you're fine. If you're adament on making things perfect, get it repaired

4)Man, I've gone over this with you multiple times. I cannot keep spending time discussing an issue in which I have helped you beyond what was required of me, and provided you multiple options and resources to fix the issues you claim occurred prior to shipping. You are trying to pinpoint the issue and say it must have been done prior to shipping, when the picture on the thread shows a battery with undamaged posts and I didn't notice any damage during packing the item. Again, this could of been done at many different points and there is no way to know exactly when. Like I said, just as you are claiming the damage could've been done prior to shipping, you made the statement in a previous PM that the post was 'spinning', and you couldn't get the nut off. Clearly you aren't even aware that using a wrench to hold the post and a wrench to unscrew the nut is the way to fix that, so from an unbiased perspective you really don't know your way around tools which aludes to the fact that the damage could've been done after you received the battery.

Now I'm not one to point fingers, nor am I saying you are at fault, but this is up to YOU to fix if there truly is damage. I am now considering this deal completed, I have offered you multiple resources, I have coached you (which is more than some other random people do on the internet) and you still seem to reply without acknowledging any of my responses and keep trying to point fingers. Please do not respond to this message as no future messages will be acknowledged.

5)i posted a review of our transaction.

i suggest you figure the rest out yourself because you acknowledged these apparent 'issues' and said you would deal with it yourself in your PM to me. i provided you more than enough help. good luck, and goodbye.



That being said,those 2 pics and a few better pics will be posted shortly. Not by any means am I looking to scam you. I did the research you told me to do to go about fixing it and came up empty handed. The issue I have is receiving a 70+ pound brick in the mail. I would like to have the issue resolved in the manner of being able to use the battery but from the issues that are wrong with the battery as of right now when I received it it is unusable. The pics will give you a better idea of what I am talking about.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 02:55 PM
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/rebelfromva/1818664b.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/rebelfromva/7bfc86fb.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/rebelfromva/4b3d8319.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/rebelfromva/2126a3da.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/rebelfromva/2ae94f07.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/rebelfromva/ffef2f3a.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/rebelfromva/cd0c2812.jpg

again no post pieces were found inside the box the battery was packaged in and no visible damage was done to the box. you be the judge for yourself on this one. If anyone has any knowledge of how to fix these post please let me know. I just want to be able to use the battery but as of right now it is not usable

quackhead
07-13-2012, 03:01 PM
If that damage was done during shipping, I think the box would have holes with burnt cardboard around them...The posts look like they have been shorted and melted

just my.02

quackhead
07-13-2012, 03:04 PM
the bare thread has slag from melting and the nut on the other melted into the post thread.

BreakingBad
07-13-2012, 03:09 PM
It doesn't matter man. You specifically said in a PM you understood the situation and that you would deal with it. That right there negates any responsibility on my end and leaves it up to you to repair. No matter how many pictures you post or claims you make, the situation is you accepted the item with the apparent 'defects' and said you'd handle it. You can't change your mind after you've accepted responsibility. Keep in mind you are grasping at straws saying the battery you got wasn't the one in the picture and that it HAD to of happened prior to shipping. What about you getting the battery and screwing it on a bad install? Not pointing fingers but you need to understand this is now a he said she said, which I've attempted to avoid.

I would've seen a melted post before I shipped it out. You've had the battery in your possession long enough to have caused those issues with say, a rushed install or improper install as that only takes SECONDS to happen. No amount of bickering back and forth will change anything. I posted this to say my peace, and I have.

Joseph7195
07-13-2012, 03:10 PM
The original thread doesn't include a picture of this battery.
http://www.caraudio.com/forums/miscellaneous-car-audio-classifieds/549934-fs-deka-intimidator-9a31-battery-2-available.html


I suppose the original seller would have taken pictures of both batts at some point. It's definitely been shorted, but doesn't make it unusable I would think, unless it's not holding a charge.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 03:17 PM
It doesn't matter man. You specifically said in a PM you understood the situation and that you would deal with it. That right there negates any responsibility on my end and leaves it up to you to repair. No matter how many pictures you post or claims you make, the situation is you accepted the item with the apparent 'defects' and said you'd handle it. You can't change your mind after you've accepted responsibility. Keep in mind you are grasping at straws saying the battery you got wasn't the one in the picture and that it HAD to of happened prior to shipping. What about you getting the battery and screwing it on a bad install? Not pointing fingers but you need to understand this is now a he said she said, which I've attempted to avoid.

I would've seen a melted post before I shipped it out. You've had the battery in your possession long enough to have caused those issues with say, a rushed install or improper install as that only takes SECONDS to happen. No amount of bickering back and forth will change anything. I posted this to say my peace, and I have.

I was under the impression that with the info you provided I could fix it. After looking into it there is no way to fix it. The battery has been sitting in the same spot since I've taken it out the box right next to all my 0g/amp/sub which I have not recieved my box for yet. So your install theory is no good. I texted you the night I recieved it saying there was a problem. I had my son that day so I really wasn't able to mess with a 70 pound battery til he went to sleep. People have lives outside car audio and can't just jump on something the minute it comes in the mail

BreakingBad
07-13-2012, 03:17 PM
This is again a he said she said. Done.

Joseph7195
07-13-2012, 03:22 PM
These are not the same batteries, different labels.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r105/joseph7195/batts/istbatt.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r105/joseph7195/batts/isstbatt.jpg

BreakingBad
07-13-2012, 03:26 PM
Yeah, at this point it leads me to believe that the battery pictured by rebelfromva is NOT the one i shipped. I was there when the installers uninstalled it, i packed it all up myself and took it home. There was no chipped post, there was no melted posts, etc. I'm going to stand by my claim that doesn't even look like my battery, and I hope this isn't some sort of scam where dude has an older shot battery and trying to get one over on my by receiving a good battery then returning me a defective one.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 03:28 PM
This is again a he said she said. Done.

It has nothing to do with he said she said. I received the battery fvcked up. No damage to the box and it was well packaged/ cushioned with all the bubble wrap you put in it. No broken pieces of battery inside said box. You said it could be fixed but with research I did I couldn't find a solution. What else do you want me to do? Paid nearly 100 for a brick that I can't use as of right now. I shouldn't even have to worry about fixes a product I received that was claimed to be not abused and works 100% no issues.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 03:29 PM
Yeah, at this point it leads me to believe that the battery pictured by rebelfromva is NOT the one i shipped. I was there when the installers uninstalled it, i packed it all up myself and took it home. There was no chipped post, there was no melted posts, etc. I'm going to stand by my claim that doesn't even look like my battery, and I hope this isn't some sort of scam where dude has an older shot battery and trying to get one over on my by receiving a good battery then returning me a defective one.

You said in your thread you didn't take a pic of the other battery.

murph
07-13-2012, 03:31 PM
Something shady is going on here. Who is it though? Rebel wouldn't have two batteries either so... A few weeks ago at the show he was just talking about looking for batteries soon. I check CL locally for batts and such all the time and one never came up. So the only way he could have gotten one was pay full price or buy one on here which he did not before this deal.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 03:34 PM
Op do I need to post a screenshot with your number on here saying you had it in the back of your trailblazer as a backup?

Joseph7195
07-13-2012, 03:37 PM
Yep, somethings wrong. There are questions some other "Sleuth" members can probably think of to weed out the truth. I have to be honest though, everything I have ever sold, I have pictures of the item before, while and after packing. This is not only to protect me, but to insure the buyer an easy case if damage has to be reported to a shipping company.

quackhead
07-13-2012, 03:39 PM
These are not the same batteries, different labels.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r105/joseph7195/batts/istbatt.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r105/joseph7195/batts/isstbatt.jpg

He never had a dated note in either oic on his for sale thread. He never showed both batteries in the same pic either.

Joseph7195
07-13-2012, 03:46 PM
He never had a dated note in either oic on his for sale thread. He never showed both batteries in the same pic either.

This is why all items being sold has to be photographed with pic and username. The thread should have been deleted well in advance of the batteries being sold. But I didn't even noticed there wasn't pics with username and date either.

quackhead
07-13-2012, 03:52 PM
Yep, somethings wrong. There are questions some other "Sleuth" members can probably think of to weed out the truth. I have to be honest though, everything I have ever sold, I have pictures of the item before, while and after packing. This is not only to protect me, but to insure the buyer an easy case if damage has to be reported to a shipping company.
I am trying to figure out how the nut came off and left the slag in the threads...

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/rebelfromva/cd0c2812.jpg

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 03:53 PM
BreakingBad ;

murph
07-13-2012, 04:01 PM
BreakingBad ;

Where did he go?

quackhead
07-13-2012, 04:29 PM
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r105/joseph7195/batts/isstbatt.jpg

hmm, well ..lol...it looks like someone tagged the neg post with a pos wire from another battery and swapped the nuts around?

im outtie..

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 04:32 PM
I have gathered from this thread, you sent me the batt you never took a pic of, your not trying to fix the issue, and you have left the building?

BreakingBad
07-13-2012, 04:54 PM
I'm honestly tired of going back and forth with you. Even like the above commenter said, the supposed damage could've been done while you were attempting to install it. I'm not saying you were, but it is a possibility. I work in a pharmacy, my time is very valuable I don't have all day to bicker on online forums.

Bottom Line:

1.) The battery you have is damaged. There is no way to prove that THAT SPECIFIC battery was the one I sent you. You will say 'yes it is, i am not trying to scam you!' and i will say 'not saying you are, but there's no proof that's my battery.' What leads credence to this is the fact that I have pictures showing a battery that looks nothing like that. Yes, I could have taken a picture of a different battery and sent a bad one, that is just as much a possibility as you fudging an install and trying to get your money back after you f*cked up.

2.) This has turned into a he-said she-said, pointing fingers game. I don't have time for this, I manage a pharmacy and am using my break time to help YOU.

3.) You specifically accepted responsibility no matter what the situation was. If i sell you an iphone but send you a pile of **** in a sock and you said 'Hey, cool, i'll deal with it'...you literally accept the fact that although it wasn't the right item and a pile of ****, you're cool with that. You accepted my shipment and said you would deal with it. It wasn't till later you mentioned a spinning post and other issues, so at this point it is more of a reasonable position for me to believe that the battery you have was not the one i sent and/or was extremely damaged during an install.

4.) There is literally no point in discussing this any further. This isn't like someone purposely 'got you' for $500, even if you do absolutely nothing with this battery, you're out 60 bucks dude...chalk it up to a bunch of bad circumstances and move on. Keep in mind the battery was tested and fully functional prior to shipping, as tested by me and an installer. If you would've accepted my method of shipping, you could've filed a UPS claim and possibly got reimbursed. There are a shitload of 'what ifs' and fingers being pointed, but all in all NEITHER of us can prove either of our sides of the story - but AGAIN, you accepted responsibility after receiving the package which completes the deal.

I'm going back to work then out of state for the weekend.

murph
07-13-2012, 05:06 PM
I'm honestly tired of going back and forth with you. Even like the above commenter said, the supposed damage could've been done while you were attempting to install it. I'm not saying you were, but it is a possibility. I work in a pharmacy, my time is very valuable I don't have all day to bicker on online forums.

Bottom Line:

1.) The battery you have is damaged. There is no way to prove that THAT SPECIFIC battery was the one I sent you. You will say 'yes it is, i am not trying to scam you!' and i will say 'not saying you are, but there's no proof that's my battery.' What leads credence to this is the fact that I have pictures showing a battery that looks nothing like that. Yes, I could have taken a picture of a different battery and sent a bad one, that is just as much a possibility as you fudging an install and trying to get your money back after you f*cked up.

2.) This has turned into a he-said she-said, pointing fingers game. I don't have time for this, I manage a pharmacy and am using my break time to help YOU.

3.) You specifically accepted responsibility no matter what the situation was. If i sell you an iphone but send you a pile of **** in a sock and you said 'Hey, cool, i'll deal with it'...you literally accept the fact that although it wasn't the right item and a pile of ****, you're cool with that. You accepted my shipment and said you would deal with it. It wasn't till later you mentioned a spinning post and other issues, so at this point it is more of a reasonable position for me to believe that the battery you have was not the one i sent and/or was extremely damaged during an install.

4.) There is literally no point in discussing this any further. This isn't like someone purposely 'got you' for $500, even if you do absolutely nothing with this battery, you're out 60 bucks dude...chalk it up to a bunch of bad circumstances and move on. Keep in mind the battery was tested and fully functional prior to shipping, as tested by me and an installer. If you would've accepted my method of shipping, you could've filed a UPS claim and possibly got reimbursed. There are a shitload of 'what ifs' and fingers being pointed, but all in all NEITHER of us can prove either of our sides of the story - but AGAIN, you accepted responsibility after receiving the package which completes the deal.

I'm going back to work then out of state for the weekend.

Invalid statement. Most people don't instantly hookup their equipment when they have no need to since the install is not near done. He has a child who he has to take care of which also takes time from his day. So being able to examine the battery thoroughly may not have been able to be done in an instant either.

Joseph7195
07-13-2012, 05:07 PM
It's the seller's responsibility to provide proof of Items sold and the condition which it was sold. It was a very very unfortunate oversight that the Buyer didn't ask for proof of battery being sold and pictures to verify condition, but still no reason for him to be taken advantage of. Not everyone buys and sells on forums regularly to know how to properly protect one's self. Post pics of the battery you sold him in your possession, that wasn't photographed in the original thread with username and date.

If you can't verify this is either the battery you sold him, or not, then maybe the battery was removed by a third party(say a shop that removed it in the first place) and the condition couldn't be verified by you because it was already boxed up. But that's hardly a reason to not open a package to verify the battery and take pics. Tape only costs pennies

Plus, I and many other members on here shop to save money, or sale items to make money for our families. I think it is worth discussing and handling. Worse problems than this have been fixed. The safety and continued assurance of properly performed sales and buys will continue to help people have confidence in dealing with members of this site.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 05:09 PM
I'm honestly tired of going back and forth with you. Even like the above commenter said, the supposed damage could've been done while you were attempting to install it. I'm not saying you were, but it is a possibility. I work in a pharmacy, my time is very valuable I don't have all day to bicker on online forums.

Bottom Line:

1.) The battery you have is damaged. There is no way to prove that THAT SPECIFIC battery was the one I sent you. You will say 'yes it is, i am not trying to scam you!' and i will say 'not saying you are, but there's no proof that's my battery.' What leads credence to this is the fact that I have pictures showing a battery that looks nothing like that. Yes, I could have taken a picture of a different battery and sent a bad one, that is just as much a possibility as you fudging an install and trying to get your money back after you f*cked up.

2.) This has turned into a he-said she-said, pointing fingers game. I don't have time for this, I manage a pharmacy and am using my break time to help YOU.

3.) You specifically accepted responsibility no matter what the situation was. If i sell you an iphone but send you a pile of **** in a sock and you said 'Hey, cool, i'll deal with it'...you literally accept the fact that although it wasn't the right item and a pile of ****, you're cool with that. You accepted my shipment and said you would deal with it. It wasn't till later you mentioned a spinning post and other issues, so at this point it is more of a reasonable position for me to believe that the battery you have was not the one i sent and/or was extremely damaged during an install.

4.) There is literally no point in discussing this any further. This isn't like someone purposely 'got you' for $500, even if you do absolutely nothing with this battery, you're out 60 bucks dude...chalk it up to a bunch of bad circumstances and move on. Keep in mind the battery was tested and fully functional prior to shipping, as tested by me and an installer. If you would've accepted my method of shipping, you could've filed a UPS claim and possibly got reimbursed. There are a shitload of 'what ifs' and fingers being pointed, but all in all NEITHER of us can prove either of our sides of the story - but AGAIN, you accepted responsibility after receiving the package which completes the deal.

I'm going back to work then out of state for the weekend.

1)you had 2 batts for sale in the thread. You posted that one was already packed away so that's why you didn't post pics of it...

2)you still have yet to link me or name a place I can get the post switched out

3)like I said before I was under the assumption from the link you sent me via text it could be an easy $5 fix like you said. After further research no one locally or on google seems to have a solution to the problem at hand with this specific battery.

4)As stated multiple times, the shipping was not an issue. You did pack it very well and there was no damage done to the package. So no claim should be made. It's not the shipping companies fault that there is no broken piece of battery post in the package that you packaged. It's not the shipping companies fault that you didn't send me the battery in the pic you took and didn't take a pic of both items. I have presented a very good amount of facts in front of you. If you had in the back of your trailblazer as a back up why didn't you have it advertised like that and why was an installed necessary to remove it? Yeah I'm out of nearly $100 which isn't much but the fact is now I still need a battery to complete my system. So on top of what I spend to get another battery I have the nearly $100 I just spent so it does add up in the end.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 05:19 PM
murph ; Thank you on the understatement of the situation. I'm sure just like all the other members on here that have children, my son does come before anything and everything especially some car audio $h!t that I can take care of anytime he is not with me. Hell I have some 0/1 that I've been needing to do the big 3 for like 2 months now lol. Sometimes you are not able to get right around to it as stated before, but upon further inspection and research that you provided op, these issues with the battery can not be resolved by fixing the battery. It will have to be replaced. Regardless of what you say about it not being your batt or it was in good condition, you still didn't take pics of both batts and in the first pm you sent me you said you should have taken them to cover your @$$...

JayDubb757
07-13-2012, 05:43 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2m6llwo.jpg


He knew the post were fvcked up, that's why he didn't have pics of that battery.
Probably why he was selling a $240 battery for $65

I'm building his box for him. Throughout the building I have given him pictures.
So when he picks it up it will look exactly like the pics he's seen.
I'm sure he expected that battery to look like the one in your picture, not like the one he received with different stickers and fvcked up posts.
You admit to not looking at it before you shipped it because it was already packaged, but you then say he probably swapped it out with another one.

husker77
07-13-2012, 08:21 PM
4.) There is literally no point in discussing this any further.

Of course you think that, you have money and he has a bad battery. I honestly have to say I believe you knew the battery was crap, that is why there was never any picture of it. Why have it packaged up before it is sold? In a shop I worked in we sold lots of batteries, stickers were different at times, even on the same order of batteries. Like I said it is my believe not fact, prove me wrong!

The only way that could be fixed is by disassembling the entire battery, the connection inside would be broken.

rebel, does it have any charge showing now? I would assume the one post doesn't isn't even connected to anything anymore.

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 08:35 PM
Of course you think that, you have money and he has a bad battery. I honestly have to say I believe you knew the battery was crap, that is why there was never any picture of it. Why have it packaged up before it is sold? In a shop I worked in we sold lots of batteries, stickers were different at times, even on the same order of batteries. Like I said it is my believe not fact, prove me wrong!

The only way that could be fixed is by disassembling the entire battery, the connection inside would be broken.

rebel, does it have any charge showing now? I would assume the one post doesn't isn't even connected to anything anymore.

Tested the stinger volt meter I got in the mail today on it. Said 12.5. Reads right and all but the one post just spins with the nut on it and other is chipped off.

husker77
07-13-2012, 08:42 PM
Since he obviously isn't going to do anything about it. Can you get some vicegrips on the end of stud? I would think maybe you could tighten the nut down tight to the base and it might keep the stud from spinning. Or can you get something under the nut to hold the stud? Does the big base spin also or just the threaded part?

splwj47
07-13-2012, 08:52 PM
where are the mods on this one? you guys need to clean house and get rid of these people trying to fvck people over!

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 08:56 PM
Since he obviously isn't going to do anything about it. Can you get some vicegrips on the end of stud? I would think maybe you could tighten the nut down tight to the base and it might keep the stud from spinning. Or can you get something under the nut to hold the stud? Does the big base spin also or just the threaded part?

The threaded part spins. I use the thicker ring terminals not the flat ones so I'd have to get toolmaker to make me some kind of terminal for it but I don't think with that sitting on the chipped stud I could get the but back on it

quackhead
07-13-2012, 08:57 PM
I'm honestly tired of going back and forth with you. Even like the above commenter said, the supposed damage could've been done while you were attempting to install it. I'm not saying you were, but it is a possibility. I work in a pharmacy, my time is very valuable I don't have all day to bicker on online forums.

Bottom Line:

1.) The battery you have is damaged. There is no way to prove that THAT SPECIFIC battery was the one I sent you. You will say 'yes it is, i am not trying to scam you!' and i will say 'not saying you are, but there's no proof that's my battery.' What leads credence to this is the fact that I have pictures showing a battery that looks nothing like that. Yes, I could have taken a picture of a different battery and sent a bad one, that is just as much a possibility as you fudging an install and trying to get your money back after you f*cked up.

2.) This has turned into a he-said she-said, pointing fingers game. I don't have time for this, I manage a pharmacy and am using my break time to help YOU.

3.) You specifically accepted responsibility no matter what the situation was. If i sell you an iphone but send you a pile of **** in a sock and you said 'Hey, cool, i'll deal with it'...you literally accept the fact that although it wasn't the right item and a pile of ****, you're cool with that. You accepted my shipment and said you would deal with it. It wasn't till later you mentioned a spinning post and other issues, so at this point it is more of a reasonable position for me to believe that the battery you have was not the one i sent and/or was extremely damaged during an install.

4.) There is literally no point in discussing this any further. This isn't like someone purposely 'got you' for $500, even if you do absolutely nothing with this battery, you're out 60 bucks dude...chalk it up to a bunch of bad circumstances and move on. Keep in mind the battery was tested and fully functional prior to shipping, as tested by me and an installer. If you would've accepted my method of shipping, you could've filed a UPS claim and possibly got reimbursed. There are a shitload of 'what ifs' and fingers being pointed, but all in all NEITHER of us can prove either of our sides of the story - but AGAIN, you accepted responsibility after receiving the package which completes the deal.

I'm going back to work then out of state for the weekend.

rebelfromva You don't have proof the battery in the pics you posted was his. He failed to post name and date on the pics in the classified thread. He failed to post pics of both batteries in the classifieds thread. You completed a deal on good faith.

He basically said in the quote above, F U, I got your money and you can't prove a damned thing.
Where is a MODERATOR when you really need one?

goingdef
07-13-2012, 09:23 PM
Yea rebel sadly man you got F***ed on this that whole **** it up and move on! WHAT A F888ing scumbag! He should be banned now but it won't do any good I'm sure your not the first person this F***in loser has screwed! I think he may be taking to many of those pills he's selling?

husker77
07-13-2012, 10:36 PM
The threaded part spins.

If it spins separate from the bigger part that it comes out of it has to be a separate piece, not sure since I can't see it. But if that is the case you should be able to get it out. Try pulling up on the stud/nut as you spin it to see if it will come loose. If it does you could probably re tap the hole for a different size stud. Then you could do the same thing on the other side.

I just can't tell how it is put together from the pics.

splwj47
07-13-2012, 10:40 PM
@whitedragon ;

rebelfromva
07-13-2012, 10:43 PM
If it spins separate from the bigger part that it comes out of it has to be a separate piece, not sure since I can't see it. But if that is the case you should be able to get it out. Try pulling up on the stud/nut as you spin it to see if it will come loose. If it does you could probably re tap the hole for a different size stud. Then you could do the same thing on the other side.

I just can't tell how it is put together from the pics.

I will try that when I get off

husker77
07-14-2012, 06:24 AM
I will try that when I get off


Just be careful.

Have you tried contacting deka to check on warrantying it? Just tell them you lost the receipt, there will actually be a date code on it that they can use to tell how old it is.

disturbed471985
07-14-2012, 06:38 AM
Just be careful.

Have you tried contacting deka to check on warrantying it? Just tell them you lost the receipt, there will actually be a date code on it that they can use to tell how old it is.

U cant expect Deka to warranty that batt cmon e1 can see the problem was from neglect on someones end. They want help you sry man. I dnt know who scammed who but someone sure did and being OP did not take all the steps to cover himself as a SELLER then you sir are in the wrong thus making it ur fault. God cant trust anyone these days POS people trying to steal a buck??? Really..... Sad Sad..


I will also agree mods need to step in on this one. Clearly the seller is a fault and is now trying to save face but no ones buying that. He should have took more pics of the ACTUAL batt to be sent not just the other batt cause this one was already in package.. OP give the man his money back you should eat this deal and if u choose not to and mods dnt take care of it I assure you I will post in every FS thread you make from this day on letting people know to STAY AWAY....

husker77
07-14-2012, 06:44 AM
U cant expect Deka to warranty that batt cmon e1 can see the problem was from neglect on someones end. They want help you sry man.

I agree about neglect but you would be surprised what some companies will do for customers, I have been shocked atwhat I have seen some do to keep people happy. It's a long shot but it's a shot.


I dnt know who scammed who but someone sure did and being OP did not take all the steps to cover himself as a SELLER then you sir are in the wrong thus making it ur fault.

Rebel should have demanded a pic of the actual battery he was getting also. To me the seller should have to prove he's not a scammer.


God cant trust anyone these days POS people trying to steal a buck??? Really..... Sad Sad..

I've come to the conclusion if I buy or sell anything on here I am going to video the packaging or unpackaging, and put the ups label over the box seam so it has to be cut to open the box. It is sad what this world has come to.

CAT MAN
07-14-2012, 07:41 AM
whitedragon551;

what is up lately? lol.
rebelfromva; jon i can help you on this one. pm me

Flex68
07-14-2012, 09:03 AM
He knew the post were fvcked up, that's why he didn't have pics of that battery.
Probably why he was selling a $240 battery for $65.

wordddd

whitedragon551
07-14-2012, 09:14 AM
This is why all items being sold has to be photographed with pic and username. The thread should have been deleted well in advance of the batteries being sold. But I didn't even noticed there wasn't pics with username and date either.

Should have reported it. I cant physically be online 70%+ of my time. Its not just a mods job to keep this place clean. There is a reason there is a report button. Use it.


where are the mods on this one? you guys need to clean house and get rid of these people trying to fvck people over!

Report the thread. Its that easy if you want attention. You cant just make a post asking where they are. Chances are we will never see it.


@whitedragon ;

Wrong name

Joseph7195
07-14-2012, 09:31 AM
Should have reported it. I cant physically be online 70%+ of my time. Its not just a mods job to keep this place clean. There is a reason there is a report button. Use it.

Yep, even after I was linked the original thread on the first page, I missed it the first time I looked through it. Obvious scam is obvious. I was getting it on with my old lady after we found out we could get more welfare if we had more kids. I've been blowing wads like crazy and just got distracted

Flex68
07-14-2012, 09:37 AM
I was getting it on with my old lady after we found out we could get more welfare if we had more kids. I've been blowing wads like crazy and just got distracted

rotfl

Joseph7195
07-15-2012, 10:55 AM
I will try that when I get off


Did you ever get anything figured out? I was kinda hoping it wasn't a total loss

JayDubb757
07-15-2012, 11:26 AM
I think breakingbad got perma-banned

CAT MAN
07-15-2012, 11:27 AM
I think breakingbad got perma-banned

when we getting together on my box broski my design you build sonce i has no tools

JayDubb757
07-15-2012, 11:29 AM
when we getting together on my box broski my design you build sonce i has no tools

Gettin rid of the XFL's?

Got your design yet?

CAT MAN
07-15-2012, 11:31 AM
Gettin rid of the XFL's?

Got your design yet?

xfl''s are staying just the box that isnt. yup i have it right here. bout 3.3-3.5 i havent figured in bracing. but i think it will be alright with the powerbass xa3k

JayDubb757
07-15-2012, 11:33 AM
xfl''s are staying just the box that isnt. yup i have it right here. bout 3.3-3.5 i havent figured in bracing. but i think it will be alright with the powerbass xa3k


shoot me a pm with the design...bout' to leave to take rebelfromva ; his box

CAT MAN
07-15-2012, 11:34 AM
shoot me a pm with the design...bout' to leave to take rebelfromva ; his box

k ill also need your number for my new fone. it may be in the old one idk. pm incoming

rebelfromva
07-15-2012, 11:51 AM
xfl''s are staying just the box that isnt. yup i have it right here. bout 3.3-3.5 i havent figured in bracing. but i think it will be alright with the powerbass xa3k

isn't that kinda a small box?

CAT MAN
07-15-2012, 11:52 AM
isn't that kinda a small box?
ninjad no one will know my plan now



http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/106/887/backpain-1292835351.jpg

rebelfromva
07-15-2012, 11:54 AM
ninjad no one will know my plan now



http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/106/887/backpain-1292835351.jpg

edted for this noob lmao

CAT MAN
07-15-2012, 11:55 AM
...l

edit that sht. and yes i have a powerplant on the way. this new job is a PITA but it pays.

CAT MAN
07-15-2012, 11:58 AM
jon get on FB. this chat wont work

rebelfromva
07-15-2012, 01:10 PM
Did you ever get anything figured out? I was kinda hoping it wasn't a total loss

Tried to trust out chipped post. No go. Pretty sure the other post isn't coming out either. Smdh

CAT MAN
07-15-2012, 04:34 PM
Tried to trust out chipped post. No go. Pretty sure the other post isn't coming out either. Smdh
well poop il trade my redtop for it maybe so you can at least have something

murph
07-15-2012, 04:38 PM
My box design will be done by the 18th at the latest. I will be sending it your way than jaydubb.

rebelfromva
07-15-2012, 05:13 PM
well poop il trade my redtop for it maybe so you can at least have something

whats the specs of it