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galacticmonkey
06-23-2012, 04:37 PM
This is my new truck. 2000 Ford Excursion Limited. Its a 4x4 and it has the 7.3l Powerstroke engine. Wont have the loudest bass around, but should still be a cool build.

May not be the fastest build log around, but eventually it will all be completed the way I want it.

The truck.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/aca90bdb.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/7e827993.jpg

New radio. Pioneer AVH-P2400BT. Got it from Buzz at A.V.E., down in Clearwater, FL. If you live in the area, they have some serious pricing down there. If you need any Pioneer/Kenwood/Rockford/Focal/Viper/Precision Power/etc, give them a call. Its nearly Ebay pricing, except from an authorized retailer. (727) 726-8332
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/71ef4943.jpg

galacticmonkey
06-23-2012, 04:44 PM
Took my door off the other day to see how bad the install from the previous owner (maybe shop?) looked. This is what I saw. Anyway, ripped all that crap out to start fresh.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/264b67da.jpg

This is the space Im working with. I have a ton of room behind the 3rd row, and will be running my 15 on low power, so I went big on the box to make up for lack of power. Box is around 6.1-6.2 cubes, and tuned to about 32hz. Havent built a ported box in a long time. Almost did a 4th order, but wanted to see the **** cone of the sub. The box is no masterpiece, but it should get the job done.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/2eabdace.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/ffdd276d.jpg

These are the RCAs I ordered. They are Stinger Pro 20' 6ch. Look pretty nice.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/597bbff3.jpg

This is the amp going in for the 15. I'm sure some of you remember them. We're real popular a few years back.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/8f0773b3.jpg

Got everything else I need. Went back down to Buzz at AVE again and picked up some speaker wire. Some 12ga and 16ga for my mids and tweets.

Also picked up my sub and some Audiotechnix 1/0 OFC from Robin. Wire looks real nice. As flexible as any Ive ever used. Awesome pricing on it too, cheapest real 0ga OFC Ive seen that has a quality jacket, high strand count, and flexibility. He also did a killer job on the recone for the BTL.

I hope this is enough wire for a set of loud front doors. Will eventually need more for the back doors and sub.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/d6904f04.jpg

Loving the white cone with CF cap. PSI reconed BTL.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/8fe289c5.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/2ca2c252.jpg

Kangaroux
06-23-2012, 04:54 PM
Looks nice, honestly a bit surprised that this isn't going to be a huge build knowing you lol. In for this for sure, I'm curious to see how low that 15 will dig with the box that huge.

galacticmonkey
06-23-2012, 05:14 PM
I will eventually get a C pillar wall, but the focus is going to be on highs.

chillin
06-23-2012, 05:21 PM
2 Excursion builds in the same week. :D

Kangaroux
06-23-2012, 05:25 PM
I will eventually get a C pillar wall, but the focus is going to be on highs.

There ya go lol. I know you had said at one point you don't like low cone high power setups. How much space in all do you have behind the c pillar?

jolly_26
06-23-2012, 05:28 PM
that's a really cool looking sub man, matches the black and white exterior theme going on.

galacticmonkey
06-23-2012, 05:49 PM
Theres a ton of room in the back. I did some measuring, and I could fit 6 15s ported behind the 3rd row all day with a box hat just slides in from the rear.

As for up to the second row, did some measuring from that. The super easy measurements that would slide in no question, and still have a good bit of extra room for play would easily be 53+ cubes, while still leaving room for batteries in the back.

SKAR-MaliBOOM
06-25-2012, 09:34 AM
ya buddy!!!!!! :yumyum:

Fi-brations
06-25-2012, 09:45 AM
That is a big truck...subscribed

galacticmonkey
06-30-2012, 01:33 AM
Got the radio out and ran RCAs and the speaker wire/remote wire on the drivers side so far. They cut up the dash pretty bad when the previous owner had it.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/461cd2b5.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/05ac2e2d.jpg


Well the batteries in the truck are shot. Noticed it was around 12v at idle the other day, but didnt think much of it. Figured it might just be hot. As of tonight, it wont start even when the Avalanche was jumping it with its 270a Powermaster alternator.

Instead of doing more wiring tomorrow, Im going to have to run down to Square Deal and buy two batteries. Probably going to be a pair of Deka Group 31s under the hood.

Anyway, got the radio in. It is sooooo sick. Not able to play with it now, since the batteries are so dead that it wont even turn on, but I got a quick demo of the bluetooth feature for music a little earlier and it rocked. Ran the mic for the telephone... Really curious to see how the quality is on that. Still need to put a trim ring around it.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/0fec4c0d.jpg

Also, bought 2 mids to start test fitting the doors. Hopefully each front door will have 1 15" BW and 2 12" BWs, along 3-4 bullet tweets... Maybe horns if Im lucky and have the depth. Tested them on around 75-80w each and they are LOUD.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/419bc8b0.jpg

Kangaroux
06-30-2012, 01:38 AM
It's the BTL of midranges lol.

galacticmonkey
06-30-2012, 03:16 AM
Yeah, these Peaveys are pretty awesome. Definitely cant wait to run a few out back. Was thinking of 6 Peavey 15s or 4 Peavey 18s with some 2" throat horns. Would be pretty insane.

galacticmonkey
07-08-2012, 01:28 AM
Well I havent updated this or taken many pictures, but I ran all the speaker wire for the doors when they get done (a 12ga and 16ga into each door).
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/823e8c51.jpg

Then I put the sub/amp in. Sounds pretty good. Snapped a pic of it on my phone when it was playing. Thought it looked cool.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/d7674570.jpg

galacticmonkey
07-23-2012, 06:49 PM
I still never even posted a picture of the box in the vehicle. Ill get one next time Im in my truck. Anyway, metered it. Still just the simple box with the single 15 on the Clarion 1500 at 1ohm behind the 3rd row.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/9858e903.jpg

Happy with the number, but not the sound, so the box is getting hacked up and changed.

galacticmonkey
08-26-2012, 12:58 AM
Now the fun stuff starts. Plans are still a 15" Peavey and a pair of 12" Peaveys in each door. Im also going to be running 3 PRV Audio tweeters in each door. Planning on eventually putting a Stetsom 7k on the 6 mids. Also going to have another pair of 15" Peaveys, or maybe even a pair of 18" Peaveys in the center console if they will fit.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/B169B1A6-720E-4B09-8CC9-7591DC4670DB-6284-000005092F377507.jpg

galacticmonkey
08-26-2012, 01:05 AM
Also, was working on this a bit today. The stupid seat rocker control was in the way of the speaker, so it has to go.

This is stock in the truck.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/EA85A951-6547-4670-B7B1-6DA9323A316C-6284-0000052356EC2A45.jpg

Took it off and cut the piece out. Then stretched some material over the hole.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/A8933C75-66C1-4CA0-B9CC-D3D3BE98F5D3-6284-000005235B01E4DD.jpg

Resined the front, and glassed it from the back. Still was in the middle of grinding the excess off.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/F660EB12-558C-4DC0-A554-1D4111D0AA2B-6284-000005235F221B3B.jpg

Can barely even feel the seam. Still havent bodyworked it or anything yet. Should look stock when its done.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/342D0290-8AC1-4992-82CF-5D4E26237829-6284-00000523636147CA.jpg

gckless
08-26-2012, 01:13 AM
Back when I was running PA, we used those Black Widows. Nasty speakers. Lookin forward to see how you fit those in a door!

galacticmonkey
08-26-2012, 01:16 AM
Im real excited to run them with some power. Ive never ran mids with 4" coils before.

82 cutlass
08-26-2012, 01:24 AM
That looks like it will be quite impressive when finished . A 7k on mids...gonna be awesome !!

tat2bass
08-26-2012, 02:46 AM
How do you like the H/U so far? I got the 1400 model cause I dont need BT. Will be putting it in once I get back. How is the SQ on it? I'm not expecting anything to great but dont want it to sound like complete **** either. Looking good so far though. Those peaveys look sick

galacticmonkey
08-26-2012, 03:35 AM
Ive only ran it on a crappy set of Bostons in the doors, so really cant tell. It obviously sounds night and day better than the generic no-name double DIN that was in it before.

I do really miss the crossover capabilities of the 880PRS that I had in my previous truck.

tat2bass
08-26-2012, 04:53 AM
Ive only ran it on a crappy set of Bostons in the doors, so really cant tell. It obviously sounds night and day better than the generic no-name double DIN that was in it before.

I do really miss the crossover capabilities of the 880PRS that I had in my previous truck.

I have actually been thinking about selling it and getting a 880prs. I kind of want to try my hand at running some pro audio and doing an active setup. Just hate to sell it without having even used it once but I now I'll get less once I use it. **** car audio and us always wanting to do something new and never sticking to a solid plan for long

galacticmonkey
08-26-2012, 04:45 PM
Im running it for now, but eventually going to do an Ipad in the dash with some nice hardware such as a Bit.One or MS-8 to cross it over and EQ it to perfection.

JL Audio
08-26-2012, 05:37 PM
still no 24 15s...

;)

Chrispy
08-26-2012, 06:15 PM
How do those peaveys compare to the Eminence mids you've used in the past?

galacticmonkey
08-26-2012, 06:54 PM
Destroy them in every way. Wayyyy louder, cleaner, take more power, shallower, etc. Just all around night and day difference. Only problem is they cost a lot more.

JL Audio
08-26-2012, 07:50 PM
I was really looking at the B&C neo 10" for my midbass but those black widows are just... I dunno, awesome for the price. If you can get us a video of them playing sometime when you have nothing to do, I look forward to seeing it.

galacticmonkey
08-26-2012, 10:57 PM
I'd take these over the B&Cs I've heard.

JL Audio
08-27-2012, 09:12 PM
I got a 12" BW ordered, going to get another thursday, not too costly to try a pair out. Hopefully that will be enough for the doors in my tb. Doing 6.5s coaxials for rear doors as I don't plan on many people sitting there anyhow.

Still want to hear one of yours when you get a chance, just to see overall loudness and such.

Joe89
08-30-2012, 05:22 PM
Nice truck, nice build, nice future plans. We used to chat on AIM - I'm D'OESTHISSTANDOUT' on there, but then your screenname got hacked? Had to block you! Lemme know if you got a new one, I'm doing a build right now too, verrry slowly, but it should be something when it is done.
Good luck on this build though, gonna be sick.

SKAR-MaliBOOM
08-31-2012, 12:13 PM
looking good chuck!

galacticmonkey
09-01-2012, 01:43 AM
Nice truck, nice build, nice future plans. We used to chat on AIM - I'm D'OESTHISSTANDOUT' on there, but then your screenname got hacked? Had to block you! Lemme know if you got a new one, I'm doing a build right now too, verrry slowly, but it should be something when it is done.
Good luck on this build though, gonna be sick.

I definitely remember that screenname. And no, never got a new AIM. Havent been on it in years. People still use it?


looking good chuck!

Cant wait until we both get our highs done and can go toe to toe.

JL Audio
09-12-2012, 08:19 PM
Updates yo?!

galacticmonkey
09-14-2012, 11:19 PM
Yo, yo, yo.

Got a sub for free. Kicker L5 12. And Im borrowing a friend's Kicker ZX1000. So I threw it in the other day.

Monster beast mac-daddy sub.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/6DFB4714-F827-4855-9C19-4F7F53D7E8BD-1849-0000012D89007203.jpg

Luckily I still have the trusty old Avalanche and Im able to use the bed to pick up wood. This is yet another box built on the tailgate of this thing. Threw it together real quick the other day and it is actually surprisingly loud. Id guess Im literally close to a 140 legal. Looks arent the concern, just another temp setup.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/28DED56D-9EB2-4D1A-9D8D-D075D7AD7C7A-1849-0000012D841DB52A.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/194217D8-1B2F-4B2F-8EF3-74519E3B726B-1849-0000012D8D0DE741.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/D386AA06-E61C-4CD3-A79D-2EA492D72354-1849-0000012D90CAFAD7.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/370B36F4-A08B-4EFA-B21F-F72CC29658BE-1849-0000012D944B4EB0.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/34C993E0-D70B-4147-B6B7-E389B16F7494-1849-0000012D97C2F56B.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/9DD06D88-A157-4A33-801C-8900C29BA5AD-1849-0000012D9C41B001.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/55590F87-6699-4D72-B013-7846C33133F8-2809-000001FE54A4DA5B.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/A9612C98-4AD3-470C-9290-76C542B02BBD-2809-000001FE5DECD1FC.jpg

galacticmonkey
09-14-2012, 11:22 PM
There is also progress on the doors, but Ill wait to post that.

Chrispy
09-14-2012, 11:29 PM
What model are those Black Widows? SPS, HE, CU?

JL Audio
09-14-2012, 11:40 PM
What model are those Black Widows? SPS, HE, CU?

15 "should" be HE or SPS, 12 "should" be sps as far as I would know from looking at specs and what i'd use in my own.

15" CU specs state it likes huge boxes 4-8 cubes so doubtful it'd be that.

didn't find any 12" that were he or cu either but I just glanced via partsexpress.

Chrispy
09-14-2012, 11:44 PM
15 "should" be HE, 12 "should" be sps as far as I would know from looking at specs and what i'd use in my own.

15" CU specs state it likes huge boxes 4-8 cubes so doubtful it'd be that.

15" is the only one i've seen as an he or cu, didn't find one that's sps and didn't find any 12" that were he or cu either but I just glanced via partsexpress.

No, I just got a couple 1508-4 SPS's. And there's a few different ones. Not real sure how different each is.

I ordered direct from Peavey, they have alot more than what PE offers.

Chrispy
09-14-2012, 11:50 PM
I'm pretty sure I got the right one's for what I want to use them for but am curious as to what "GM" is using. I've used Eminence 6's and 8's in the past but nothing this big.

galacticmonkey
09-15-2012, 12:24 AM
The 15s.
Peavey Black Widow Speakers - Peavey 1502 Speaker - Peavey 1502-8 15" Black Widow bass guitar speaker - This Peavey 15" Black Widow speaker handles 700 watts RMS. (http://usspeaker.com/peavey%2015028bw-1.htm)

The 12s.
Peavey Black Widow Speakers - Peavey 1201 Speaker - Peavey 1201-8 12" Black Widow speaker - This Peavey 12" Black Widow speaker handles 700 watts RMS. (http://usspeaker.com/peavey%2012018bw-1.htm)

JL Audio
09-15-2012, 12:51 AM
hmm, i dunno what the hell i've bought then.. and I bought two 12s :(.
actually, after looking them over..I like the ones I picked better instead of starting at 60hz.. they start at 50hz lol.

galacticmonkey
09-15-2012, 01:08 AM
I really doubt they should be very different.

Joe89
09-15-2012, 04:58 AM
What is the L5 port made out of? Foil tape and pvc or purchased aeroports? When you built that box, did you factor in the volume displacement resulting from the 45's in the corners? Looking forward to seeing your doors!

galacticmonkey
09-15-2012, 12:32 PM
It's just a basic aeroport. I taped it to hold it together.

And no I didn't account for the 45s. Heck, I didn't even check to see the tuning before I built it. Just slapped together a square box and stuck a port in it.

jteske88
09-15-2012, 12:42 PM
what you do with them boston mids and tweets that were in there? crossovers possibly?

galacticmonkey
09-15-2012, 11:59 PM
It is all old and pretty much junk, so will likely go in the trash.

Anyway, metered that L5 12 today. Did a 138.8 on the dash with absolutely no testing/tuning/etc.

jteske88
09-16-2012, 02:15 PM
hey i dont care about old stuff lol really just need set of mids and cross over, only reason i ask is i had a set in a car years ago and i loved em.

galacticmonkey
09-16-2012, 03:14 PM
Well I really doubt they would be worth shipping. They sound like crap anyway.

jteske88
09-16-2012, 03:25 PM
alright thats cool just was asking

DB-Audio
09-16-2012, 10:31 PM
ummm never thought to use an old guitar amp speaker as a midbass in the door... that is sick as hell and i love the sound of peavey speakers i had an old vintage peavey tube amp for my guitar sounded amazing

galacticmonkey
09-16-2012, 10:45 PM
The little 6.5s and 8s just dont cut it. Just like a cheap, tiny, wimpy sub wont cut it for bass, to get the vocals that you can feel in the ground you need to step up to the big mids and use big power.

The front will only have tweets, but the back will hopefully have some 2" compression drivers with some even bigger mids.

F3fiddy
09-18-2012, 07:07 PM
18's ftw!

galacticmonkey
10-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Got my doors today. Just need to paint the top piece and then install the speakers. They look beautiful. Everyone says big doors like this always look tacky. I think these look great. Will really pop with the black trim pieces, speaker grills, and tweets in it.

A guy I know in Tampa did them. He has a shop named Trafficking Customs. If you ever need glasswork done in the area, he is definitely the way to go. Cant wait to get my rear doors done.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/835321D4-F9D5-4D95-A511-37EB66D4820C-34535-00001C82154F0B6A.jpg

gckless
10-23-2012, 11:12 PM
Doors look good! What are you using for amplification? Active or passive? And what do you have planned for your substage?

galacticmonkey
10-23-2012, 11:17 PM
Right now it is passive. Even though I have a brand new Pioneer 4200BT in my dash, I think Im going to break down and get another 80PRS to go full active. Then it will be seeing a Stetsom 5k on the front doors most likely.

It is getting a wall for 8 12s for bass. Just a small build at the C-pillar to leave room for a big mid/horn setup out back.

gckless
10-23-2012, 11:23 PM
Yeah active is definitely the way to go here. But you can't run 3 way plus subs with the 80PRS. You plan on running the 18's in the door on the same sub channel as the 12's in the wall?

You have a brand/model in mind for the subs?

galacticmonkey
10-23-2012, 11:41 PM
They are 15s and 12s in the doors, but they play roughly the same frequencies, so they will be on the same output. I think if I can bandpass them from 80-100hz to 4-5khz I'd be good to go.

As for subs, likely the cheap American Bass subs. Probably run them on some sort of 3k or a pair of 1500s of some type.

gckless
10-24-2012, 12:01 AM
They are 15s and 12s in the doors, but they play roughly the same frequencies, so they will be on the same output. I think if I can bandpass them from 80-100hz to 4-5khz I'd be good to go.

As for subs, likely the cheap American Bass subs. Probably run them on some sort of 3k or a pair of 1500s of some type.

Oh gotcha, yeah those woofers should be decent in that range. You can always play around with crossover settings anyway.

How much room you giving up for the sub box? Maybe go with 6 15's in a large box to compensate for lack of power? It would be more cone area, plus less number of subs to divide power to. Just a thought.

VWGolfMKVI
10-24-2012, 12:09 AM
Got my doors today. Just need to paint the top piece and then install the speakers. They look beautiful. Everyone says big doors like this always look tacky. I think these look great. Will really pop with the black trim pieces, speaker grills, and tweets in it.

A guy I know in Tampa did them. He has a shop named Trafficking Customs. If you ever need glasswork done in the area, he is definitely the way to go. Cant wait to get my rear doors done.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/835321D4-F9D5-4D95-A511-37EB66D4820C-34535-00001C82154F0B6A.jpg

Those panels are SICK

galacticmonkey
10-24-2012, 01:55 AM
Oh gotcha, yeah those woofers should be decent in that range. You can always play around with crossover settings anyway.

How much room you giving up for the sub box? Maybe go with 6 15's in a large box to compensate for lack of power? It would be more cone area, plus less number of subs to divide power to. Just a thought.

The reason Im going with 12s is because it is actually MORE subs to divide power among. There is nothing that frustrates me more than blowing subs or having to turn it down because equipment gets too hot.

I want something that I can crank up and let play all day.

Chrispy
12-28-2012, 03:22 PM
How's the build coming along? Been a bit since an update. Finished my build up a few weeks ago and am loving the Peaveys.

rebar
07-14-2013, 02:41 PM
Yea, Id like to know as well.

galacticmonkey
07-24-2013, 12:05 AM
Had to sell it, unfortunately. Got myself a job so I can afford a new truck. Here she is. A 2013 Ram R/T. Got it with like 12 miles on it, now 3 weeks later, I'm pushing 1700 miles. Lots of driving.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/null_zps7336eda0.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/null_zps8178ae8a.jpg

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