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CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:15 AM
im thinking about doing 2 apsm1500s for a short term 3krms. think it will be worth it going from the pd2k. looking for a good .6-1db gain from pure power alone. they will be 1 ohm strapped.

pro-rabbit
06-18-2012, 12:17 AM
I don't think you will get .6 or more from that swap.

Kangaroux
06-18-2012, 12:18 AM
I think we all know how this thread is going to turn out...personally I would say go for it cause the amps would cost you like 250 and if you didn't like em selling them isn't hard

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:19 AM
I think we all know how this thread is going to turn out...personally I would say go for it cause the amps would cost you like 250 and if you didn't like em selling them isn't hardi hate ap. but seeing the new tests. im intruigued on the new amps. the ap series still svcks

Kangaroux
06-18-2012, 12:20 AM
i hate ap. but seeing the new tests. im intruigued on the new amps. the ap series still svcks

Agreed...the apsm's seem to hold up decently though. I'm curious to see what makes them pop.

pro-rabbit
06-18-2012, 12:21 AM
It won't hurt to try, but there is no where near enough power difference to suggest such an increase in SPL.

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:21 AM
It won't hurt to try, but there is no where near enough power difference to suggest such an increase in SPL.
then eff it. ill grab another 2k and alt

pro-rabbit
06-18-2012, 12:23 AM
then eff it. ill grab another 2k and alt

that may get you close to .6 increase...maybe

RangerDangerV2
06-18-2012, 12:23 AM
why not just run 10k....:naughty:

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:25 AM
why not just run 10k....:naughty:

i plan on 6 or more. just need a quick gain. but doubling power should get me at least .5 from experience

RangerDangerV2
06-18-2012, 12:27 AM
i plan on 6 or more. just need a quick gain. but doubling power should get me at least .5 from experience

6k... you must be a b1tch.........




















































































j/k.

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:31 AM
6k... you must be a b1tch.........



















































































j/k.
my car wont handle over 6k. i can only run a single alt. ill see if i cant get a special one. since i want to have a 50+ again. or 6k with a nice 4th.

RangerDangerV2
06-18-2012, 12:34 AM
my car wont handle over 6k. i can only run a single alt. ill see if i cant get a special one. since i want to have a 50+ again. or 6k with a nice 4th.
you dont have an a/c compressor??

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:35 AM
you dont have an a/c compressor??
i am not giving up a/c. im 271lbs and stay hot. you crazy foo

RangerDangerV2
06-18-2012, 12:37 AM
i am not giving up a/c. im 271lbs and stay hot. you crazy foo

i hope its muscle....

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and who needs ac when you have ports foo.

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:38 AM
i hope its muscle....

most of it. ive aquired a gut lately tho...


http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/575862_428798607154793_1504161939_n.jpg

RangerDangerV2
06-18-2012, 12:39 AM
lies that is jose you fool... you cant trick me.

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:39 AM
ive used less ac now that the back seat is out. when i had the geo rocking in the high 40s i would just rool the windows up and bang. but now. i like ac.

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 12:40 AM
lies that is jose you fool... you cant trick me.

brah i hope you're kidding..... this is jose








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04murdalanche
06-18-2012, 02:59 AM
brah i hope you're kidding..... This is jose








http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/431061_359110970777713_2113428977_n.jpg

lol

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 03:13 AM
lol

that is the infamous el weenie. lulz






i look good with short hair dont i ranger :naughty:

Imtjnotu
06-18-2012, 03:33 AM
1 ohm strapped haha that won't last long on those amps

The_Grimy_One
06-18-2012, 03:41 AM
I Love AP

TaylorFade
06-18-2012, 04:43 AM
I'll buy the pd2k to help fund this fiasco.

In for CatMan butthurt when he sees no gain, pops an amp or two and comes beggin for his DB Drive back.

Some people say, "I hate to say 'I told you so." I'm not one of those people. Lol.

Spldecendant
06-18-2012, 06:29 AM
Lol I wouldn't even bother with these amps my friends is wired at .5 rising to 1.4 at 12.8v is only seeing 500rms

BIGJEFF64
06-18-2012, 07:28 AM
If u absolutely had to run AP and u need 3k the get 2 of the 1800's we test them in a caprice he had 2 dc 15's lvl 3 on those amps strapped and it gave him a clean 3k o scoped. He was on stock alt and 3 generic Agm batts

Audiopipe AP18001D 1800 Watt RMS Class D 1 Ohm Stable Amplifier w/ Remote Boost Control (http://www.caraudiodeals.com/audiopipe-ap18001d-p-2812.html)

I am in no way an AP supporter

If u were to buy the powerbass 3k that's F/S on here u would have over 3k clean power and gain more than the 2 AP's just sayin

xSPLoder
06-18-2012, 08:11 AM
then eff it. ill grab another 2k and alt

Get a VFL150.1 man. I dont know about the restrictions for the org's you compete in but in Team NorthEast SPL, they go by the manufacturers RMS rating at 12.5V on 1 ohm. The amp does 2900 RMS but at 12.5V the RMS load is 2000 and that comes straight from Bob's mouth.

madcad95
06-18-2012, 08:41 AM
I would bet the pd at .35 puts out more then 2 apsm 1500s at 1 strapped :)

Sleeklsc
06-18-2012, 08:52 AM
What I find funny is that people still wear jean shorts.

SPLaudio
06-18-2012, 09:10 AM
yea just get 4 of the ap's

BIGJEFF64
06-18-2012, 09:14 AM
What I find funny is that people still wear jean shorts.

hahahahaha @ .48

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Falcons
06-18-2012, 09:15 AM
most of it. ive aquired a gut lately tho...


http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/575862_428798607154793_1504161939_n.jpg

bro where's the beard?

BIGJEFF64
06-18-2012, 09:17 AM
Get a VFL150.1 man. I dont know about the restrictions for the org's you compete in but in Team NorthEast SPL, they go by the manufacturers RMS rating at 12.5V on 1 ohm. The amp does 2900 RMS but at 12.5V the RMS load is 2000 and that comes straight from Bob's mouth.

^^^^^^^^ this

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 01:58 PM
bro where's the beard?
shaved for teh hair

^^^^^^^^ this

fuuu

TaylorFade ill give you a call in t-10

d77543020
06-18-2012, 11:42 PM
My Rockford t2000 was louder then my three apsm 1500s

TaylorFade
06-18-2012, 11:45 PM
My Rockford t2000 was louder then my three apsm 1500s

Oh snap. Same woofers and vehicle? What were the numbers? Or is this the ear meter?

CAT MAN
06-18-2012, 11:59 PM
Oh snap. Same woofers and vehicle? What were the numbers? Or is this the ear meter?
thats what im sayin!

mylows10
06-19-2012, 12:02 AM
i see smoke in your future if you do this

tylork92
06-19-2012, 12:03 AM
**** it I need a TL so I can do testing of my apsm1500 vs. my saz1500.

CAT MAN
06-19-2012, 12:04 AM
i see smoke in your future if you do this
i dont call them crackpipe for nothing but i would like a gain :crap: i wont do eet.

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**** it I need a TL so I can do testing of my apsm1500 vs. my saz1500.
what you need is to come the fvck up here to help tuen this god forsakin box around.

tylork92
06-19-2012, 12:05 AM
i dont call them crackpipe for nothing but i would like a gain :crap: i wont do eet.

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what you need is to come the fvck up here to help tuen this god forsakin box around.

How far r u from Gastonia fool

CAT MAN
06-19-2012, 12:06 AM
How far r u from Gastonia fool

i dunno but i can come down or you can come up lulz. im in rocky mount Va. lika boss

mylows10
06-19-2012, 12:07 AM
dont get the ap amps you'll be sorry you did

tylork92
06-19-2012, 12:08 AM
i dunno but i can come down or you can come up lulz. im in rocky mount Va. lika boss

Somebody needs to get a dadgum meet up! Haven't heard anything from Bosworth. Went up there a couple weeks after the meet to get some tires on the ranger and haven't heard nothing since

CAT MAN
06-19-2012, 12:10 AM
Somebody needs to get a dadgum meet up! Haven't heard anything from Bosworth. Went up there a couple weeks after the meet to get some tires on the ranger and haven't heard nothing sincei have one up here im hosting with dj williams at the franklin co speedway its db drag and possibly meca. mid july


dont get the ap amps you'll be sorry you did
oh dude im not. i was just curious

Dirtrider4eva
06-19-2012, 12:11 AM
At the maximum a 3db gain would happen from doubling a factor, like power or cone area. From 2k to 4k I'd definaty safely say a .8-1.2 db increase would happen..
But don't get ap

Julian
06-19-2012, 12:44 AM
well its math time kiddos with my favorite audio formula!

L =10log (P/Pref)

P=new power
Pref= original power

10 log(3000 / 2000) = 1.76091259 dB's before power compression, etc.

TaylorFade
06-19-2012, 12:46 AM
well its math time kiddos with my favorite audio formula!

L =10log (P/Pref)

P=new power
Pref= original power

10 log(3000 / 2000) = 1.76091259 dB's before power compression, etc.

Where did you get that formula? Because my car and TL don't abide by your slide rule.

Julian
06-19-2012, 12:48 AM
Where did you get that formula? Because my car and TL don't abide by your slide rule.

Vance Dickinson...

This is purely power wise. Vehicle, box, and power compression all take a role in it.

TaylorFade
06-19-2012, 12:50 AM
Vance Dickinson...

This is purely power wise. Vehicle, box, and power compression all take a role in it.

Exactly. So throwing that out there is useless. Lol. I've seen +1 from a 10% bump. I've seen +2.7 from 1ohm to .25. I've seen +.5 from 7k to 14k. Blah, blah, blah.

Julian
06-19-2012, 12:55 AM
Actually... It's useful because it give you a mathematical reasoning behind adding more power and what you could expect. I used this same formula in my car when I switched from 5 to 6k.. and guess what.. It was about right... Your cars acoustics will change everything and anything.. With anything this does not guarantee you anything but it gives you a good basis of what can happen. This formula is from one of the best acoustical engineers out there who knows more than you would ever know.. So Just sayin'

kushy_dreams
06-19-2012, 01:06 AM
car audio has no place for some fancy logic or math or science :fyi:

TaylorFade
06-19-2012, 01:08 AM
Actually... It's useful because it give you a mathematical reasoning behind adding more power and what you could expect. I used this same formula in my car when I switched from 5 to 6k.. and guess what.. It was about right... Your cars acoustics will change everything and anything.. With anything this does not guarantee you anything but it gives you a good basis of what can happen. This formula is from one of the best acoustical engineers out there who knows more than you would ever know.. So Just sayin'

I gurantee he doesn't know more about my car than I do. He can engineer acoustics until he's blue in the face, but I've proven his little formula wrong just about everytime I test.

If it doesn't take into account the 9,573,942 other variables involved... what's the point of even bothering with it?

d77543020
06-19-2012, 01:09 AM
Oh snap. Same woofers and vehicle? What were the numbers? Or is this the ear meter?

Same woofers lower ohm load and was still louder I had one apsm at one ohm on each sub and it was nice for what was paid but t2000 is louder to my ears not even close

TaylorFade
06-19-2012, 01:11 AM
Same woofers lower ohm load and was still louder I had one apsm at one ohm on each sub and it was nice for what was paid but t2000 is louder to my ears not even close

Boom. Change your avatar to the RF. Lol.

d77543020
06-19-2012, 01:17 AM
Don't get me wrong audiopipe has it's place but after owning all of the aspm models and all the ap models I don't think I'll ever be going back I hear good things about the apk models tho

RSDXzec
06-19-2012, 09:37 AM
interested to find out if i'll become a hater or a nuthugger, ordered one last week, should get it next week.

should be much better than my ****** audioline A/B 300wrms amp

BIGJEFF64
06-19-2012, 09:42 AM
I gurantee he doesn't know more about my car than I do. He can engineer acoustics until he's blue in the face, but I've proven his little formula wrong just about everytime I test.

If it doesn't take into account the 9,573,943 other variables involved... what's the point of even bothering with it?

Fixed!!!!