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etm34
06-14-2012, 07:26 PM
Welp I finally got my new car, a honda civic coupe 2003, and im finally getting to start working on my new build for it. Im mainly trying to focus on SQ with this build. Im currently trying to upgrade my equipment before i head off to college and become poor for the next 4 years. If you have any advice on what i should do or if i did something wrong just let me know, thanks for looking, now for the pictures and installation.

My pile of equipment......

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120424_210651.jpg

Day 1: got my dash kit finally so i could take out the terrible stock radio, had to make a customized tab for the side of it to keep it in place and from moving, i think it'll stay in place well and it actually looks pretty good and sounds so much better with stock speakers already! Would've taken more pictures but didnt think about doing a build log till after i installed it.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120613_185541.jpg

Day 2: Started working on my big three upgrade today, got my knu battery terminal adapters today so i could finally start on the big three upgrade. Ran a new ground wire and engine block to the battery negative, im working on figuring out how to get to the alt and run a wire from the alt to battery will work on it more tomorrow.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120614_170400.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120614_170405.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120614_170412.jpg

GrindFrog
06-18-2012, 09:49 PM
Bump. I was gonna get a gathers rear interior for my 94 civic hatch, but i decided not to. So now I gotta find some 5 1/4" speakers. Keep updating

JohnnyBASS
06-18-2012, 09:53 PM
love knu wire!! my favourite and all i use. keep the pics coming!

etm34
06-19-2012, 12:31 AM
Update: Slow progress, ive been busy and hit a snag

Got these in the mail Friday!!!

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120618_225600.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120618_225714.jpg

So i tried to drop in the new battery for the old, but nothing can be that simple, it didnt fit, too tall for the battery bracket and too wide for the bottom tray, so tomorrow im going to be trying to create a customized battery bracket for it, ill see if i can get it done. I will also be installing door speakers tomorrow and maybe doing a couple of other little things here and there! Also ordered my boston acoustics gt-2300 to power my 10in dayton ho's on saturday, should be here next week! will be placing an order for some various things through PE tomorrow.

Also i have Moble Enclosurs working on a box for me, we'll see how it compares to my custom box design ;)

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/boxdesign.jpg

etm34
06-19-2012, 08:38 PM
Day 3:

Welp I finally got the battery in, it was rough though, i think i may make a better mount down the road but this will due for now....... hopefully...

So what materials did i have laying around that are strong and durable, old metal computer case

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_130029.jpg

Some measurements, that proved fatal later on

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_130506.jpg

Cut Out and folded

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_135327-1.jpg

bent, had to bend again, but forgot a picture

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_140040.jpg

now heres where i made a mistake it was too short for the chassis bolt

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_182010.jpg

a little tweaking and nuts and bolts and i came out with this

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_191107.jpg

the battery doesnt move much at all and ive pulled on it and tugged it and everything, i do have a problem with the hood not wanting to close, i now have to force it close because the little hood holder thing gets in the way of the hood shutting, hopefully my hood doesnt fly up, it seems to latch fine once i push on it a little. not a fun day just to get a battery to fit, may work on the bottom tray tomorrow to try to get it wider so the battery can actually sit on the bottom of it. if you have any ideas on a battery bracket or tray let me know please!!!

RangerDangerV2
06-19-2012, 08:44 PM
audipipe and sq do not go hand in hand... other than that nice work.

etm34
06-19-2012, 08:50 PM
audipipe and sq do not go hand in hand... other than that nice work.

haha i sold that to a friend, that was my budget amp for starting off a year ago, its long gone now, got my boston acoustics gt-2300 on the way for this build.

RangerDangerV2
06-19-2012, 08:52 PM
good.

etm34
06-20-2012, 12:02 AM
Day 3 continued:

Welp one door down one more to go, heres what i went through tonight, had to deal with massive amounts of bugs tonight and i was ticked off to the max and just wanted to get inside asap!!!

So on my way home i was hearing some rattles and trying to find them and opened up the fuse thing under the steering wheel and felt some loose wires so i investigated when i got home, i suspect an aftermarket alarm system was installed and very poorly i might add, i really want to rip it all out but i dont want to destroy any other electrical crap its attached to.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_204917.jpg

Well after that i opened up my door expecting to have to measure and make speaker baffles out of mdf board, i was wrong someone already had aftermarket speakers installed and speaker baffles, woot woot on the baffles, might still make some mdf board ones cuz the plastic ones like to cause rattles. After market speakers were blaupunkt... never heard of those

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_210423.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_212130.jpg

Installing my BA rally series comps on a passive crossover for now.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_215427.jpg

Tweet installed, doesnt fit snugly, ill come back to that another day

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_214216.jpg

Woofer installed pretty nicely

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_220311.jpg

The side of the speaker grill on the door was hitting the speaker, i think, i feared it atleast so i had to trim it up some

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_221622.jpg

And after a long night the door is back on, now to do it tomorrow once again.....

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120619_224204.jpg

etm34
06-20-2012, 09:22 PM
Day 4: Got the other door done, my order from PE came, took one day for my order to get here!!!

And while working today at my tennis club these roll up, our club goes hard!!! Yeah thats my civic next to an R8

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120620_200046.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120620_200126.jpg

RangerDangerV2
06-20-2012, 09:34 PM
those r8s are wicked fast.... saw one at carcraft 2009... cool build btw, seems to be coming along well.

aalasley
06-20-2012, 11:07 PM
Coming along nicely

mazdakid
06-20-2012, 11:10 PM
Never heard of blaupunkt? How old are you?

etm34
06-20-2012, 11:13 PM
I'm 18. I asked the guy that owned the r8 if he would let me ride in it and he said I could drive it next week, heck yeah but I'm scared as heck!

VisceralSound
06-20-2012, 11:15 PM
It would be nice to own an R8, but they get an estimated like 12mpg.

itsblown
06-21-2012, 12:52 AM
It would be nice to own an R8, but they get an estimated like 12mpg.
Because that matters after you purchase a super impractical $100,000 car

Good luck on the doors and speakers not hitting Im having issues with it in my ride

etm34
06-21-2012, 05:27 PM
Day 5: Not working on anything today, but got my free alpha damp today, cant wait to install this stuff but i can't decide if i want to cover both doors fully or cover the outside sheet metal on the doors and cover the trunk lid/package tray/trunk itself.... hmm wait until the sub is installed and see what starts rattle-ling.....????

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120621_125144.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120621_125241.jpg

etm34
06-22-2012, 01:11 AM
Day 5 continued:

ok i decided to pull the back of the car out and to start prepping to run my wires tomorrow or saturday, found some more blaupunkt speakers in the back.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120621_233901.jpg

The floor has zero sound deadening on it, i dont know if i should stick some on it or try to find some cheap mass loaded vinyl or something to try to keep out some road noise, its bad in the back, give me some suggestions if you have any please!

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120621_232637.jpg

These spots have some huge holes in them that im thinking need to be filled with some expanding foam or something along that line, because it is next to the wheel well and there is lots of noise through these areas, any ideas on how to stop the noise coming through the big hole in the sheet metal???

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/Carside.jpg

etm34
06-23-2012, 01:21 PM
day 6/7:

removed almost everthing from the car, running wires the next couple of days, i'll probably run 4 speaker wires to the front for if i go active in the future heres what ive done so far

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120623_113809.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120623_113822.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120622_203327.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120623_114838.jpg

got this in yesterday, i was pretty happy to see it but then sad when i realized it had two 4ga inputs instead of one 1/0 ga, so now i guess ill have to order a new distribution block and more freaking wire, the expenses keep getting to be more and more.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120622_135312.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120622_140044.jpg

etm34
06-27-2012, 12:34 AM
Day 8/9/10:

welp i finally started to get a little overwhelmed with what i was doing the past few days, there is just so much stuff i still have to do!!

I tried to make a custom plexiglass insert for my bottom insert tray, that didnt work, plexiglass is just too difficult to cut straight, and it cracked so i got pissed and threw it on the ground!

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120625_230907.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120626_002814.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120626_002803.jpg

routed the rca cables today and worked on some speaker adapters, going to run just midbass in the back

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120626_182723.jpg

did this to find the centers

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120626_193845.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120626_202831.jpg

etm34
08-12-2012, 09:55 PM
Its been awhile since ive updated this due to a lack of interest and comments on it, i thought i would just keep updating it to have as a log for myself and to show others what could be done with the same car.

While i was away i got some ID oems for midbass ran those for awhile and then just took them out and decided to run active instead. Im now running active on diamond audio hex s600's on a treo 75.4. And i got a pioneer deh 80prs

Old wheel well cover that will not hold a box up

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120812_200512.jpg

New one that i will cover with carpet and use as my base made of 1/2in birch

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120812_200502.jpg

Doors were deadened and i am about to create a sheet metal cover for the holes

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120812_200537.jpg

Tweeters im still pondering on how to mount them because they are so big

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120812_200544.jpg

Back of car is completely deadened

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120812_200649.jpg

Now i am going to cover up the holes as soon as i can find some butyl around here

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120812_200838.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120812_200857.jpg

Flex68
08-13-2012, 11:21 AM
Nice build log. Thanks for sharing.

You are planning to use some CCF as a 'decoupler' on the sheet metal, and attach with more than just butyl, yes?

etm34
08-13-2012, 02:01 PM
Nice build log. Thanks for sharing.

You are planning to use some CCF as a 'decoupler' on the sheet metal, and attach with more than just butyl, yes?

I can't decide honestly. I don't know if the butyl will work as a decoupler or not. Will be deadening them with mlv and cld. I will be using sheet metal screws for attaching them and the butyl layer between the sheet metal.

pro-rabbit
08-13-2012, 02:05 PM
Day 4: Got the other door done, my order from PE came, took one day for my order to get here!!!

And while working today at my tennis club these roll up, our club goes hard!!! Yeah thats my civic next to an R8

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120620_200046.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120620_200126.jpg

Makes me miss my NSX :crap:

etm34
08-16-2012, 02:53 AM
I would miss it too....

So I'm more productive at night so I covered my wheel well cover today

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120816_011206.jpg

Looks pretty good in the car. Doesn't match exactly but after my box is done if I have other material I may make it match. I'm going to create some solution to the 4 spots that don't have carpet so that they will be covered.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120816_012350.jpg

There were some holes in the trunk for some tabs for the old cover so I utilized these and tapped them and they are now to hold it in place and is an added security feature if someone decided to take my stuff since everything will be mounted to this board. 4 hex bolts hold it in place and I made them so that they sink into the board so they don't catch on anything.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120816_012408.jpg

Bettr n' Revrse
08-16-2012, 03:45 AM
Im getting ready to start the build in my honda with S600s as well...

etm34
08-16-2012, 11:58 AM
Im getting ready to start the build in my honda with S600s as well...

Let me know how you are going to mount the tweeters. I kinda want to make swivel mounts but I don't have enough time before college. The actual mounts, well the right one, are on axis.

Bettr n' Revrse
08-16-2012, 09:28 PM
Let me know how you are going to mount the tweeters. I kinda want to make swivel mounts but I don't have enough time before college. The actual mounts, well the right one, are on axis.

I'm trying to find some sort of swivel myself that I can use with PVC caps for cups...

etm34
08-16-2012, 10:30 PM
I'm trying to find some sort of swivel myself that I can use with PVC caps for cups...

Are you just mounting the tweeter in the pvc? Or are you using the mounting hardware and the pvc? also how do you think you will get the tweeter to stay in place? i thought of using caulk on mine, but im scared the ammonia released will hurt the tweeter.

keep_hope_alive
08-16-2012, 10:34 PM
i have two NPT swivel air tool fittings to use as tweeter mounts, but they aren't tight enough to support the weight...
http://www.hardwareworld.com/files/pi/bQ/L/KZR1.jpg

other members added o-rings or other materials to increase friction and allow for fucntional use, explained here: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/advanced-sql-spl-discussion/534484-tweeter-spheres-pics-examples-5.html


for the CDT tweeters I used a continuous ring of foam weatherstripping on the inside of the PVC cap to friction fit the tweeter. it holds it well and you don't see any mounting hardware.

cd6551
08-16-2012, 10:44 PM
Is that Audubon country club you're at? Looks familiar

fannin88
08-16-2012, 10:45 PM
i have two NPT swivel air tool fittings to use as tweeter mounts, but they aren't tight enough to support the weight...
http://www.hardwareworld.com/files/pi/bQ/L/KZR1.jpg

other members added o-rings or other materials to increase friction and allow for fucntional use, explained here: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/advanced-sql-spl-discussion/534484-tweeter-spheres-pics-examples-5.html


for the CDT tweeters I used a continuous ring of foam weatherstripping on the inside of the PVC cap to friction fit the tweeter. it holds it well and you don't see any mounting hardware.

What do you mean they arnt tight enough, like where at?

etm34
08-16-2012, 11:09 PM
Is that Audubon country club you're at? Looks familiar

Bluegrass tennis club in lexington

etm34
08-16-2012, 11:42 PM
i have two NPT swivel air tool fittings to use as tweeter mounts, but they aren't tight enough to support the weight...
for the CDT tweeters I used a continuous ring of foam weatherstripping on the inside of the PVC cap to friction fit the tweeter. it holds it well and you don't see any mounting hardware.

i will try to pick some of these up and try this out this weekend.

keep_hope_alive
08-17-2012, 02:14 AM
What do you mean they arnt tight enough, like where at?

you can ask the members that used them and had to modify them. if you think about it - they are supposed to swivel easily for their normal use. the swivel ball isn't tight so the tweeter would sag down. you have to make the swivel much harder to turn.

i thought about a setscrew - but drilling through that would require tools i don't posess currently.

Sears sells them for like $10

the threaded side would go into the pillar. the smooth end would get glued into the sphere/cap.

i prever my method using threaded rod - it holds well and isn't bulky. you just have to get the angle right the first time!

Bettr n' Revrse
08-17-2012, 02:28 AM
I may just do some thread rod as well...

etm34
08-17-2012, 03:01 AM
you can ask the members that used them and had to modify them. if you think about it - they are supposed to swivel easily for their normal use. the swivel ball isn't tight so the tweeter would sag down. you have to make the swivel much harder to turn.

i thought about a setscrew - but drilling through that would require tools i don't posess currently.

Sears sells them for like $10

the threaded side would go into the pillar. the smooth end would get glued into the sphere/cap.

i prever my method using threaded rod - it holds well and isn't bulky. you just have to get the angle right the first time!

i may try the thread rod for aesthetics, the best angle is out from the a pillars and pointed towards the driver correct?

keep_hope_alive
08-17-2012, 10:41 PM
I aim mine at the rear c-pillars. So driver side is a bit off-axis to me, passenger is pointed at me. This helps with IID and HRTF. So you lose some level on the closer one... by design.

Best to experiment with Velcro first, then finalize with an angle.

AxT4430
08-17-2012, 10:55 PM
did you ever finish the big 3, I was having issues locating my power wire from my alt to batt! great build log, when i get some funds Ill surely gut my honda sedan as well!

etm34
08-20-2012, 08:45 PM
did you ever finish the big 3, I was having issues locating my power wire from my alt to batt! great build log, when i get some funds Ill surely gut my honda sedan as well!

i just cut the ring terminal down to do it, i will be doing it in the next couple of days so look for it, its a BIT3H to do and the ac lines run right in the way of the alternator so its a really tight squeeze and the alternator bolt and area is tiny, i will show all the pics once i do it.

etm34
08-20-2012, 08:47 PM
I aim mine at the rear c-pillars. So driver side is a bit off-axis to me, passenger is pointed at me. This helps with IID and HRTF. So you lose some level on the closer one... by design.

Best to experiment with Velcro first, then finalize with an angle.

what is IID and HRTF if you dont mind me asking? just dont know the acronym, may know the term

etm34
08-20-2012, 08:55 PM
Forgot to post this, covered the rear side panels that had the huge holes, noticeable difference in noise, but not much for the effort, still worth it. covered with rammat on the inside and a mass loaded vinyl type sheet on the outside.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120816_122235.jpg

keep_hope_alive
08-20-2012, 10:57 PM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/phat_funky_beats/Sound%20Domain/HRTFexplained.jpg

etm34
08-22-2012, 12:33 AM
Well the box is started and taking forever to do, im starting to freak out i have 2 days left before i leave for college well actually i leave thurs night....

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20120821_223818.jpg

The to do list:
1. Finish Box
2. Carpet Box
3. Wire Subs and Install
4. Install Speaker Grills on box
5. Wire both amps and mount both amps/create amp mounts
6. Clean up all the wires
7. Finish Deadening car
8. Run 0ga from alt to bat
9. Put clay under the mids in door
10. Make tray under wheel well for the jack and stuff
11. Put car back together and test for rattles
12. Fix any rattles/take car apart again to fix rattles
13. Repeat 11
14. Repeat 12
15. Infinite loop from 11-14
16. Infinite loop ends once no more rattles exist so never.
17. Tweeter Swivel Mounts and PVC mounts (if i have enough time which i wont....
18. PACK EVERYTHING FOR COLLEGE.... (not needed car comes first right?)

Two days, holy SH1T!!!!!!!!!

DB-Audio
08-25-2012, 07:27 AM
nice job so far man just a for warning alts on these **** balls i have an 01 and my alt blew 2 weeks ago i beleive they are only 90 amps or something stupid like that

etm34
09-10-2012, 11:42 AM
nice job so far man just a for warning alts on these **** balls i have an 01 and my alt blew 2 weeks ago i beleive they are only 90 amps or something stupid like that

yeah i hooked up my subs and it basically dimmed heavily with them on like 1/3 volume and i dont have the money to dump into a new alt so im really pissed so i had to take the subs out, plus there was a problem with the subs and phasing and i have to fix that, but im at college now so i dont have time for anything.

etm34
10-29-2012, 01:06 AM
well after a short weekend last weekend i decided to install these again, go figure i had a negative and positive wire flipped and i found it out last weekend, so i installed my subs. voltage is stable when driving and drops some while in neutral/stopped. they sound great and even with the gain almost all the way down they get loud as heck. but they compliment the music very well and blend well. thank you mobile enclosures for the box design!

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/tennisboy34/IMG_20121028_232357.jpg