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BB_King89
05-21-2012, 09:16 PM
So, after prowling the site for the past few weeks looking at the vast information here I decided it was about time i registered. I have been out of the audio field for a while now and so much has changed. I am looking at upgrading my pickup with a new audio system focusing more on SQ than SPL but cant decide on a HU to choose from.

My possible HU choices based on budget so far are:

JVC Arsenal A95BT
Kenwood Exelon X996
Pioneer DEH-P9400BH

I really like the possibly of Android comp. since I do not have an apple product which is why i am looking at the A95BT. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find anyone who has experience with this unit. I was originally looking at going for the Pioneer 80PRS but after reading another posting here I dont know if that might be overkill for my future setup.

I plan on going with Focal Audio 100KRS components, 2x10" Subs, Independent AMPS for each. I know the rest of my setup is vague but I only have a framework for what I am looking for at the moment and will save my other questions for other sub forums when i get there. I would appreciate any information as to the SQ/Build Quality differences between these units. Thanks in advance and if I am overlooking a better possibility i would love to hear it.

Thanks.

ktraughb
05-22-2012, 12:36 AM
i really love the pioneer 9400bh. it does not have the greatest eq in the world or anything, but as far as user interface goes, it is fantastic. if youre using external processing it could be used just fine for sq, but unless youre doing sq competition or something, youd probably never notice the difference.

av83
05-22-2012, 12:40 AM
So, after prowling the site for the past few weeks looking at the vast information here I decided it was about time i registered. I have been out of the audio field for a while now and so much has changed. I am looking at upgrading my pickup with a new audio system focusing more on SQ than SPL but cant decide on a HU to choose from.

My possible HU choices based on budget so far are:

JVC Arsenal A95BT
Kenwood Exelon X996
Pioneer DEH-P9400BH

I really like the possibly of Android comp. since I do not have an apple product which is why i am looking at the A95BT. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find anyone who has experience with this unit. I was originally looking at going for the Pioneer 80PRS but after reading another posting here I dont know if that might be overkill for my future setup.

I plan on going with Focal Audio 100KRS components, 2x10" Subs, Independent AMPS for each. I know the rest of my setup is vague but I only have a framework for what I am looking for at the moment and will save my other questions for other sub forums when i get there. I would appreciate any information as to the SQ/Build Quality differences between these units. Thanks in advance and if I am overlooking a better possibility i would love to hear it.

Thanks.

If you have tha $ for an x996, throw another fitty or so at it and get the 80prs. If not, the x996 is very nice.

...and welcome to the site!

BB_King89
05-22-2012, 01:22 AM
i really love the pioneer 9400bh. it does not have the greatest eq in the world or anything, but as far as user interface goes, it is fantastic. if youre using external processing it could be used just fine for sq, but unless youre doing sq competition or something, youd probably never notice the difference.

Yeah I wont be doing any competing and the UI of a unit is always a plus to consider. Thanks for the input so far guys, I think I am going to wave out the 2400BH now at least. So, are there enough quality differences between the x996 and the 80PRS to justify the price increase. It seems I would lose features going to the 80PRS but gain that much more in performance? Doesn't seem like the JVC model favors well with anyone lol.

hispls
05-22-2012, 01:41 AM
So JVC has a HU that integrates with Android device? IMO it's about time we have some Android options!

My best advice is to order from a company with a good return policy and a good variety, that way if you really don't like your first pick you can swap it back and try another one.

ktraughb
05-22-2012, 01:53 AM
i actually do like the newer jvc models a lot, but to me the user interface is what separates pioneer from the other choices. i currently own a kenwood, basically last years model of what you have listed, and its great with bluetooth, rear usb, etc, but i prefer my old pioneer which is basically the same as the 9400bh.

BB_King89
05-22-2012, 10:54 AM
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BB_King89
05-22-2012, 10:55 AM
So JVC has a HU that integrates with Android device? IMO it's about time we have some Android options!

My best advice is to order from a company with a good return policy and a good variety, that way if you really don't like your first pick you can swap it back and try another one.

That makes a lot of sense but I am not a huge fan of dealing with exchanges via mail. If there were a few options locally I could deal with that would be great. I was looking at buying from either abt or crutchfield since they are authorized dealers for a lot of manufacturers. As far as devices go, android support is one of the reasons i was looking at the x996 and A95BT models with either an android app or BT support. There is also the Alpine 138BT but i have yet to see consistent positive feedback over the latest alpine single DIN HU unless someone has an opinion otherwise.



i actually do like the newer jvc models a lot, but to me the user interface is what separates pioneer from the other choices. i currently own a kenwood, basically last years model of what you have listed, and its great with bluetooth, rear usb, etc, but i prefer my old pioneer which is basically the same as the 9400bh.


Always hard to overlook practical usability and that is another reason why I was asking here to get more insight on the devices themselves. I could actually fit a double DIN HU into my truck but I figured at my pricepoint any HU i pick would be on the low end compared to the top of the line single DIN units. Is that assumption valid?

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Also, are all of the HU pretty much the same in terms of build quality? I am used to PC components where typically the longer warranty dictates higher quality components being used.

BB_King89
05-23-2012, 08:54 PM
Okay so after looking at everything else I will need to be getting I dont think i can afford to get the 80PRS unless it is just that much better than everything else.

What is the next best option other than the 80PRS? I have ruled out the JVC so I am essentially asking for some thoughts out of the 9400BH, x996(or x896), and the 138BT. Is the extra $$ for more band EQ on the x996 worth it over the other options? thanks

Sketchup
05-23-2012, 08:56 PM
Look into alpine too

ktraughb
05-24-2012, 09:50 PM
9400 bH is a close second to the prs. Yes the equal will make a difference, but the 9400 is feature packed. I basically own the Kenwood in question, and I'd rather have the pioneer.

BB_King89
05-25-2012, 10:05 PM
9400 bH is a close second to the prs. Yes the equal will make a difference, but the 9400 is feature packed. I basically own the Kenwood in question, and I'd rather have the pioneer.

Thanks for the input, have you compared your x996 SQ to the 9400BH? I seems like in order to get default Android support I would have to sacrifice on units with better SQ which I dont think is worth.

BB_King89
05-25-2012, 10:06 PM
--double post--

BB_King89
05-30-2012, 01:41 PM
9400 bH is a close second to the prs. Yes the equal will make a difference, but the 9400 is feature packed. I basically own the Kenwood in question, and I'd rather have the pioneer.

I just realized you already posted earlier you have last years model and its pretty much the same so sorry about asking about you comparing the latest model to the Kenwood. There certainly doesnt seem to be any question that any of the higher end single DIN models will be good to an extent but it looks like Pioneer is the majority favorite.

Quick question: Since JVC and Kenwood have merged i have seen some post about how they are for different markets but what are those targeted markets exactly? Essentially if i were to narrow down my choices to two HU, both x996 and A95BT have some of the features i want such as android support, BT, and HD radio. Which of these two compares closer to the P9400?

mylows10
05-30-2012, 01:52 PM
the x996

BB_King89
05-31-2012, 06:48 PM
Thanks for all of the input, I decided to go with the x996 after weighing all of the options. While i am sure the 80PRS and 9400 have great SQ I don't think I would notice the huge difference coming from a stock deck in my 89 pickup compared to the kenwood lol. In end, I think i had to weigh in the fact that the kenwood gave me more of the features i was hoping to get. Plus, its seems to also be a great option by other on the forum. Now on to getting an amp and speakers :cool:

Vmax911
06-11-2012, 10:40 PM
I'm currently in the same boat. How has your experience with the x996 been? I'm also considering the other units you mentioned, as well as the Sony XAV-64BT. The Sony seems to be a step back in the SQ compartment, but the screen is intriguing. Like you said, that price range allows for a top of the line single DIN or a mediocre double DIN.

BB_King89
06-14-2012, 02:22 AM
I'm currently in the same boat. How has your experience with the x996 been? I'm also considering the other units you mentioned, as well as the Sony XAV-64BT. The Sony seems to be a step back in the SQ compartment, but the screen is intriguing. Like you said, that price range allows for a top of the line single DIN or a mediocre double DIN.

So far my experiences have been great from an CD output perspective. Tomorrow i will be setting up my phone for BT and will report back on ease of use as well as sound quality for both audio and phone calls. I have it paired with a set of CDT CL42 i just got and it sounds outstanding, which I have currently have running off the HU until i can get an amp.

The remote has a bit more response delay than i would like where holding down a volume control can result in jumping way higher or lower than intended due to the lag but i have adapted to that. Aesthetically, in my truck the light tends to hit the HU often making the screen harder to see so color selection is important but this may be a common battle no matter what i got. Build quality is excellent and have found no manufacturing flaws nor does it feel like i am holding a 10 cent paperweight.

Vmax911
06-15-2012, 01:51 PM
I'll be interested to see how the android/pandora interface works out.

BB_King89
06-17-2012, 01:20 AM
I'll be interested to see how the android/pandora interface works out.

Paired with my D2G with no issues at all, Pandora sync with no issues. Station navigation and song choice is all controlled smoothly from the HU after sync, even displays my phone signal strength and battery life accurately. I have not messed too much yet with the android kenwood app but as far as Pandora is concerned it works as expected.

Vmax911
06-17-2012, 04:42 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like the x996 is a winner here.