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99ChevyZ71
03-15-2004, 11:25 PM
I want nice clean, not to harsh music. All 6.5's and all around $150-200

CDT Audio CL-61A
http://www.thezeb.com/detail.aspx?ID=1083

Infinity Kappa
http://www.cbrstereo.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=207

Alpine Type R
http://www.cbrstereo.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=26

Focal 165v2
http://www.cbrstereo.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=164

ngsm13
03-15-2004, 11:27 PM
either the Focal's or the CDT's...others just don't compare. peace

NG

99ChevyZ71
03-15-2004, 11:30 PM
Dang that was quick. I posted it and then went back to look at and did not even have time to edit it before you posted..THANKS

I like fast replies :)

99ChevyZ71
03-16-2004, 02:00 PM
Out of all the people on this board I only get 1 reply.
come on guys! More help please.

Berry47
03-16-2004, 03:23 PM
infinity's are incredibly harsh so take them off the list.

CDT's have very smooth response and produce an amazing natural tone.

forbidden
03-16-2004, 04:52 PM
None of the above, no offence but if I had to choose on eit would be the Focal. Make sure the midbass driver is oversize for your pickup. With the mounting location of the tweeter in the stock door panel I would only use MB Quart for it's off axis frequency response. This means that the tweeters will actually give you some usable output that you can hear cleary, even when the windows are down. Have a look at the MB Quart Discus series with the pure titanium tweeters.
www.mbquart.com

slick rick
03-17-2004, 02:06 AM
cdt's all the way.

dflock
03-17-2004, 04:06 PM
CDTs are made for off-axis response, or so they advertise and say constantly...

pavengmike6
03-17-2004, 05:40 PM
I would have to agree with forbidden. MB quartz by far.

ngsm13
03-17-2004, 09:57 PM
None of the above, no offence but if I had to choose on eit would be the Focal. Make sure the midbass driver is oversize for your pickup. With the mounting location of the tweeter in the stock door panel I would only use MB Quart for it's off axis frequency response. This means that the tweeters will actually give you some usable output that you can hear cleary, even when the windows are down. Have a look at the MB Quart Discus series with the pure titanium tweeters.
www.mbquart.com


AHEM!!!


I want nice clean, not to harsh music.

might be a good thing to notice....lol...titanium and MB quart...yeah, real harsh. peace

NG

nosaj070
03-17-2004, 10:27 PM
Not sure what toixoid is, but theres a chance it may be harsh, i vote CDTs.

xjmadness
03-17-2004, 10:29 PM
ppl are reccomending MB Quarts when this guy wants not harsh music? ...yeah about that

adam71
03-18-2004, 07:23 AM
Of all the people here bashing MB Quart..........how many of you have ever had them in their vehicle.?? The reason I ask this is becuase what a certain speaker sounds like on display board will sound much differently in a vehicle. What forbidden was getting at was that in a door location the highs would not be in a very good listneing location therefore the brighter tweeters would be an advantage. My home speakers have titanium tweeters. When I bought them it was becuase of all the different brands on display at the time they were the smoothest of the bunch in my price range. The other brands were Snell, Klipsch, Definitive Tech, and Accoustic Research. I of course chose Mirage. So don't judge a speaker by its cover is what I'm trying to say.

Adam

nosaj070
03-18-2004, 09:35 AM
Of all the people here bashing MB Quart..........how many of you have ever had them in their vehicle.?? The reason I ask this is becuase what a certain speaker sounds like on display board will sound much differently in a vehicle. What forbidden was getting at was that in a door location the highs would not be in a very good listneing location therefore the brighter tweeters would be an advantage. My home speakers have titanium tweeters. When I bought them it was becuase of all the different brands on display at the time they were the smoothest of the bunch in my price range. The other brands were Snell, Klipsch, Definitive Tech, and Accoustic Research. I of course chose Mirage. So don't judge a speaker by its cover is what I'm trying to say.

Adam

I honestly don't feel that a harsher tweeter makes it any easier to hear, I personnally hate them, on my Type X's i just have it set higher +2 db, and it sounds great. He said flat out he didn't want harsh tweets, as long as he isn't reflecting the tweets of hte windshield or something crazy like that they are going to be harsh.

lazure
03-18-2004, 09:39 AM
I've heard every set except the Focals, and I own the CDTs. I'd say CDTs all the way as well, but there's been a lot of excitement around the Focals on this and other boards. Can't go wrong with either one of them, I'm sure. Mounting depth may be an issue with the CDTs, don't know about the Focals...

adam71
03-18-2004, 10:10 AM
I honestly don't feel that a harsher tweeter makes it any easier to hear, I personnally hate them,

I honestly feel that a titanium or "bright" or whatever adjective you want to use doesn't necesarrily make it "harsh". Titanium tweeters can be tamed. It's just not quite as easy as it is with a silk dome tweeter. And on the flip-side of that, a tweeter made of silk doesn't necessarily make it "smooth". I'm not trying to stick up for titanium....hell I use silk domes in my car system. I think there is a time and place where titanium can be a better fit for someone and of course there is a time and place for silk. Just so happens the silk dome tweeters in my car are more harsh than the titanium tweeters in my home speakers. Now, thats primarily due to the design of the home speaker but nonetheless, its still titanium and its smooth.

One thing I would like to know is if its the harshness of titanium that hurts the ears then how is it NOT easier to hear. A bright tweeter by definition is one that is too loud am I right? So basically if its brighter as you claim then why wouldn't it be easier to hear?

One more note worthy of pointing out is that MB Quart makes some of the best mid range and mid bass drivers in the world. Enough rambling, my point was just that we shouldn't judge a tweeter by what its made of but by how it sounds in your vehicle.

:crazy:
Adam

nosaj070
03-18-2004, 10:39 AM
I honestly feel that a titanium or "bright" or whatever adjective you want to use doesn't necesarrily make it "harsh". Titanium tweeters can be tamed. It's just not quite as easy as it is with a silk dome tweeter. And on the flip-side of that, a tweeter made of silk doesn't necessarily make it "smooth". I'm not trying to stick up for titanium....hell I use silk domes in my car system. I think there is a time and place where titanium can be a better fit for someone and of course there is a time and place for silk. Just so happens the silk dome tweeters in my car are more harsh than the titanium tweeters in my home speakers. Now, thats primarily due to the design of the home speaker but nonetheless, its still titanium and its smooth.

One thing I would like to know is if its the harshness of titanium that hurts the ears then how is it NOT easier to hear. A bright tweeter by definition is one that is too loud am I right? So basically if its brighter as you claim then why wouldn't it be easier to hear?

One more note worthy of pointing out is that MB Quart makes some of the best mid range and mid bass drivers in the world. Enough rambling, my point was just that we shouldn't judge a tweeter by what its made of but by how it sounds in your vehicle.

:crazy:
Adam

Well first off, you cannot make any comparison between home and car audio, because they are so different. The most being the distance from you and having correct imaging. Having a harsh tweeter in your door is usually worse than having it in an ideal spot like kicks because it is so close to you. Granted the design of the tweeter may be somewhat important, but the material used in it is for the most part the deciding factor.
Now, bright and harsh are two different thigns in my opinion, bright is just loud like you said, but harsh is where listening to s's at even moderate volumes is similar to death in most installs. I also said that when you adjust the volume of the tweeter it can compensate for that with a softer sound, but still get just as loud without any problem whatsoever.

99ChevyZ71
03-19-2004, 06:25 PM
Thanks guys!!
I will check in to the MB Quarts all so. which series of MB quart do yall recommend? There are so many different series. I really would like to stay around $200.

Again thanks,
Jeff


I found these. What do yall think about these. In the mean time I am going to finda a dealer around here and go listen to them.

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=12149

forbidden
03-19-2004, 07:32 PM
Keep it to either the Discus or Reference series within that price range and you should be good to go. Both sets of speakers have a tweeter adjustment in the crossovers if they are to "bright" for your ears and want to "tame" them.

z400central
03-21-2004, 02:16 AM
Diamond Audio M6's :) $200 on ebay.

tplaya07
03-21-2004, 05:09 PM
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