PDA

View Full Version : Need help designing a burp box.



Craig28
03-20-2012, 08:02 PM
Hey guys I need somehelp designing a trunk SPL box for a DC level 5 15. It's going in the trunk of a 2000 Nissan Maxima. For power I have a Stetsom 7KD.

wenn_du_weinst
03-20-2012, 08:06 PM
buy a tlab.
That is pretty much the only way to help, it's all trial and error

Craig28
03-20-2012, 08:09 PM
buy a tlab.
That is pretty much the only way to help, it's all trial and error

I know, its just I'd rather have a basic idea of what works and what doesn't before I start building.

RangerDangerV2
03-20-2012, 08:13 PM
lots o port, high tuning..... play around like wdw said

mylows10
03-20-2012, 08:15 PM
try aeros for the ports, external facing forward into the cabin

Craig28
03-20-2012, 08:56 PM
Alright guys I'll be sure to do that. Do y'all have any tips or tricks to get the most out of it? Any box size recommendations? I'm always open to advice. I'm hoping for at least high 40's on burps...

RangerDangerV2
03-20-2012, 08:58 PM
hope you have some killer electrical.... it can make or break your system..... also I would add 3 layers of deadner and seal the doors as good as possible..

mylows10
03-20-2012, 09:13 PM
seal the trunk,also the woofer box needs to be as small as possible to keep the rise down.need to figure out what class first and design around that.then start doing alot of testing

Davecubs14
03-20-2012, 09:18 PM
Davecubs14's spl thread - Car Audio Classifieds (http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/general-car-audio-discussion-questions/109176-davecubs14s-spl-thread.html)

Here's my thread for reference. And here's another spl thread. Good one too.

SPL Gains&#33 (http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/98191-spl-gains-updates-on-page-16-slot-flares/)&#33 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=33) . Updates on page 16 (Slot flares) - SMD Forum

Never done a trunk before. But I would keep it small, lots of port with that much power.

Craig28
03-20-2012, 09:19 PM
hope you have some killer electrical.... it can make or break your system..... also I would add 3 layers of deadner and seal the doors as good as possible..
So far The plan is 3 102 ah C&D's with an XS D3100 in the trunk and a new batt up front. I order an alt from Mike Singer a few weeks ago. Would this be enough to do burps with? Should total around 450 ah I think.

Craig28
03-20-2012, 09:20 PM
Is it alright to use too much port than recommended for burp boxes? I've been using Torres calc to try to get a rough idea on volume.

Craig28
03-20-2012, 09:26 PM
seal the trunk,also the woofer box needs to be as small as possible to keep the rise down.need to figure out what class first and design around that.then start doing alot of testing

That's kinda one of my other problems. Most of the competitions in my area aren't sanctioned so they just do classes by either amount of woofers/power or both. But there is some USACi and I think a little bit of MECA, which I would definitely try to make all of those shows. There is a big gap in scores from what I've seen of the USACI up here though. Most of the guys putting up huge scores have walls with huge amounts of power. One shop in the state has one or two 3x shows a season, and people like dB Don and Chris Fish usually are there.

Craig28
03-22-2012, 01:06 AM
Bump it up. Need some help guys...

hispls
03-22-2012, 01:45 AM
TO get loud out of a trunk you must seal off the trunk (like a wall). Port on driver's side. A friend of mine gets 150 give or take a few tenths consistantly out of his Accord trunk. He always runs 5K and single 15". He has used AB and Atomic 5K and a large variety of drivers. In his build LV5 wasn't a great performer though it seems more promising with Nightshade softparts and a stiffer suspension....

Large port (15 to 18" port area per cubic foot net) I'd shoot for 4-5 cube. Read that WHOLE THREAD "SPL GAINS" on SMD. Flush mounting sub helps, but mounting will be challenging with a heavy woofer like that. Duct tape helps, flaring port (in and out) helps.

You will need a meter to figure out your resonance and you will want to tune around that. I like using sono tube for a port since you can tune low and cut it back an inch at a time with a utility knife to tune higher and see where you stop gaining.

FYI LV5 should burp 7K but thermally it won't handle 5K for more than a minute or so.

chillin
03-22-2012, 01:57 AM
You should probably find out the vehicles resonant frequency.