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helotr3vor
03-19-2012, 05:44 PM
Just got a new car so its time for the new build. I now have a 2010 Audi A4 Premium and craving to put a sub in the trunk. First off, here is the car..

http://i.imgur.com/YFCbm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q4AVc.jpg

I plan on getting a Fi Q 12d2 with cooling and spider. Its going to have a ported box tuned to 32-33hz with a matching black/silver theme built by DonH. The box dimensions are 35x16x12in with the baffle on 35x16.

The sub will be wired parallel to a Sundown SAX-1200D. I plan on getting a refurbished one from db-r. Im going to be able to hide the amps in the sides of the trunk behind the panels. If I can hide all wires this can be a very clean semi stealth build.

As for electrical, I have 10ft of Stinger Hyperflex and but I'm still unsure if I'm going to do the Big 3. Ive heard some people say the stock electrical will handle 1200w without a problem but then again its always nice to have that extra voltage. Im going to have a Line In Converter to reroute the sundown amp to the stock amp then to the head unit. Now I know this isn't ideal but I've been told this is the best way to route the wires with keeping the stock head unit in this car. I'm open to suggestions on the best Line In Converter for my circumstance. Im going to have knu 4gauge power wire for the amp and knu speaker/rca wire.

I got the itch to get something done over the weekend and got the back cabin sound deadened. I had a few sheets of Damplifier Pro laying around and figured I'd put it to use. I still have 2 full sheets that I plan on putting on the trunk lid once I figure out how to get the panel off.

http://i.imgur.com/BDYgm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BF2Kj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/U5iZo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eyHR4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Zjnwa.jpg

If you have any questions feel free to ask. Excited to get going with this new build log :)
~Trevor

chawski
03-20-2012, 04:03 PM
post a pic of the trunk lid panel. if its the same as the A8, I just helped a buddy do his over the weekend. If its the same, I think it was just a dozen or so little pop tabs around the perimeter and a few in the middle for support.

helotr3vor
03-20-2012, 04:46 PM
post a pic of the trunk lid panel. if its the same as the A8, I just helped a buddy do his over the weekend. If its the same, I think it was just a dozen or so little pop tabs around the perimeter and a few in the middle for support.

http://i.imgur.com/9o8ur.jpg

chawski
03-20-2012, 06:25 PM
I would say your safest bet is to ask on an audi specific forum, but at least on the A8 (probably 07-08ish), it looked similar and popped off with some panel tools. that piece looks pretty pricey to break trying to pop it off if theres anything else holding it on that I dont know about.

The dealership might even be willing to tell you?

helotr3vor
03-20-2012, 06:28 PM
I would say your safest bet is to ask on an audi specific forum, but at least on the A8 (probably 07-08ish), it looked similar and popped off with some panel tools. that piece looks pretty pricey to break trying to pop it off if theres anything else holding it on that I dont know about.

The dealership might even be willing to tell you?

I got a DIY on the Audi forums im set. I might go ahead and do it in a little who knows.

chawski
03-20-2012, 06:35 PM
Yea it was a fairly quick job. Before you do it, do you have the automatic opening trunk or just the normal pop it and open it like a normal person trunk? I know theres an option for one that will fully open and close on its own. the dampening will add some weight, so if you have the auto-opening trunk, id be careful not to over do it on dampening weight.

helotr3vor
03-20-2012, 06:43 PM
Yea it was a fairly quick job. Before you do it, do you have the automatic opening trunk or just the normal pop it and open it like a normal person trunk? I know theres an option for one that will fully open and close on its own. the dampening will add some weight, so if you have the auto-opening trunk, id be careful not to over do it on dampening weight.

Yeah I only have 2 sheets left so it wont add much weight at all. I have an opener but I dont think it closes on its own.

chawski
03-20-2012, 06:46 PM
sounds like you just have the popper with gas struts to open it like any other trunk. The gear driven ones are super pricey so just wanted to make sure before you add any weight to it

helotr3vor
03-20-2012, 08:43 PM
Yeah its just a popper. Took my about an hour to deaden it and I still got a 1sqft of damplifier to save for a spot I notice after everything is installed.

http://i.imgur.com/PyZ5Y.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DoYOe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qu96U.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/P2Abp.jpg

helotr3vor
03-22-2012, 06:59 PM
Not much of an update, just used the last sheet of damplifier pro I had laying around. Cut it into 3 sheets and put them in the spare tire well.

http://i.imgur.com/uzSRy.jpg

SourDeez
03-22-2012, 07:03 PM
Looks like a *****.

Nice lookin car though

helotr3vor
03-23-2012, 03:55 PM
First order came in today! Got some wire from Knu and should be receiving my LC2i later today.

1/0gauge Knu Fleks
12gauge Karma SS
RCA Karma SS
1/0 Knu in-line fuse holder
Dont worry about the length my battery is in the trunk already :)

http://i.imgur.com/pA8L2.jpg

Going to be mounting the factory amp behind its original mount. And somehow mount the new amp where the factory amp used to be. Might be a little tricky but I should be able to find a way to make it work. If I cant, I can always mount the factory amp above the wheel well.

http://i.imgur.com/22Rcy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2QUS4.jpg

Thats it for now. Maybe I will route some wire tomorrow.

helotr3vor
03-23-2012, 04:38 PM
Got my information wrong they split my order cause they had to get the LC2i from somewhere else. They shipped my 18ga wire that im using for power and remote on the LC2i. Along with 2 1/0 to 4ga input adapters that I hope will fit.

http://i.imgur.com/f7H6E.jpg

Joseph7195
03-23-2012, 04:44 PM
Alright! Glad to see things coming together. Looking forward to seeing some more! :thumbsup:

helotr3vor
03-23-2012, 04:51 PM
Alright! Glad to see things coming together. Looking forward to seeing some more! :thumbsup:

Thanks Joseph, welcome! Should have everything completed 2 weeks from today if everything goes smooth.

Pearson
03-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Looks like a pretty good project.

TheUnderFighter
03-23-2012, 05:59 PM
Should have everything completed 2 weeks from today if everything goes smooth.

Well that NEVER happens :P haha. Any time I project an estimated completion time for whatever I'm doing with my car, I immediately double it haha.

helotr3vor
03-23-2012, 07:19 PM
Well that NEVER happens :P haha. Any time I project an estimated completion time for whatever I'm doing with my car, I immediately double it haha.

Haha yeah well I have 2 weeks of planning to make everything ready. 2 weeks is how long Don is going to be working on the box and I should have everything ready to just plug in once I get it from him. Only thing im worried about is how smoothly the amp mounting will go. Might have to construct a piece to connect to the previous factory amp mount.

TheUnderFighter
03-23-2012, 07:28 PM
haha, I remember when DonH told me 2 weeks :P

helotr3vor
03-23-2012, 07:37 PM
haha, I remember when DonH told me 2 weeks :P

Haha we've been talking for a week and got everything dialed in. I got the sub and amp to wait anyways they probably wont come for another week.

martiandancer31
03-24-2012, 04:01 AM
Well that NEVER happens :P haha. Any time I project an estimated completion time for whatever I'm doing with my car, I immediately double it haha.

i figured i would be done with my car by the end of summer 2011, and i'm still working on it quite regularly....

helotr3vor
03-24-2012, 01:06 PM
Well only time will tell :). This waiting process for my amp and sub drives me crazy. I hate online orders.

CHRIS 323
03-24-2012, 04:56 PM
nice car

Falcons
03-24-2012, 06:09 PM
Beautiful car. I have the '04 version. They are a dream to drive. And the stock speakers can keep up with a thousand watt system so no reason to upgrade and that's a plus! Looks great so far bro.

helotr3vor
03-24-2012, 06:58 PM
Thanks guys glad to have you :bigwave:

helotr3vor
03-27-2012, 11:06 AM
Started laying some wire last night. Got the (+) run for the amp layed down. I ordered 5ft and it took every single inch but I think it is going to be perfect. If not I got extra wire laying around but I wanted it to be all red. Still have the negative then laying the speaker wire down but I was having trouble with me negative on the battery. The nut to loosen up the battery terminal doesnt seem to come off all the way. I almost forced it off but got to sketched out cause it felt like I was going to snap it. I should be getting an answer from the Audi forums on what to do on the matter shortly. The fuse holder has some heavy duty mounting tape under it and is also zip tied to the wire thats held on the ground. That thing is in there real solid. I dont have the fuse in so dont worry about getting grounded everything fine :). I'd like to thank knu for sending me the correct fuse when I fucked up the order.

http://i.imgur.com/PXZdAl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fNT6yl.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/F6sKEl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VbMWpl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/daax4l.jpg

nateberrier
03-27-2012, 11:14 AM
Looks good so far, minus the gearbox.....

helotr3vor
03-27-2012, 11:19 AM
Looks good so far, minus the gearbox.....

Haha that gear box is badd@ss. The wires fit under it nicely without laying on them. You actually dont see any wire once the middle headrest and emergency pack is wedged in the spare tire well. Thanks though Nate :)

nateberrier
03-27-2012, 09:00 PM
Haha that gear box is badd@ss. The wires fit under it nicely without laying on them. You actually dont see any wire once the middle headrest and emergency pack is wedged in the spare tire well. Thanks though Nate :)

I just meant I was upset it was an automatic

helotr3vor
03-27-2012, 10:30 PM
I just meant I was upset it was an automatic

rofl oh that gear box :P. Im a 90's kid ive never drove manual in my life. I got my cheesy auto manual shift thats fun every now and then. But sport mode kicks the **** out of that.

nateberrier
03-27-2012, 11:16 PM
rofl oh that gear box :P. Im a 90's kid ive never drove manual in my life. I got my cheesy auto manual shift thats fun every now and then. But sport mode kicks the **** out of that.

Tiptronic gives you the fun back I suppose. I forced myself to learn teh manuals though.

helotr3vor
03-29-2012, 08:27 PM
redone the battery (-) to ground with a new nut and bolt and flat ring terminals.

I came, I saw, and I conquered.

Just to give you an idea
http://i.imgur.com/N5znsl.jpg
I used a different ring terminal and cut the side instead to fit better
http://i.imgur.com/L2gnil.jpg
New nut and bolt after an hour of removing the stripped stock one. This made my hands bleed quite a lot.
http://i.imgur.com/t0EkUl.jpg?1
By the way it is a thousand times easier to remove if you unhook everything and use a table vice to hold the square head. I had to take it to a local ACE cause I got rid of my old table vice thinking I'd never need it....
http://i.imgur.com/eoNz4l.jpg
Everything fits real nicely now. Got the nut on there real tight with everything nice and flat. If your ring terminal doesn't fit, just trim it down with some sheer cutters.
http://i.imgur.com/ZRyKql.jpg

helotr3vor
03-31-2012, 03:47 PM
Just got all the wiring laid down yesterday and reversed the stock amp. The LC2i is wired and the GTO is working. I ran a run for remote in anyways just in case. All the wire is ran along the factory wire with many zip ties. Everything has fit perfectly so far. I disconnected the sub the factory sub to hook everything correctly to the LC2i. Pretty sure I wont need to take the panels off again. Think the best way to mount the amp on the stock amp mount would be to used a block of wood like a baffle. I could cover it with stretchy black carpet I got laying around. Cant get that done till my SAX-1200D get here. The only wire missing is the amp ground for obvious reasons.

Silver/Black = RCA
Brown/Yellow = Factory sub (-)
White/Yellow = Factory sub (+)
Copper = LC2i Power (+/-)
Silver = Remote in
Blue = Remote out
Red = Amp power (+)
Also laid the speaker wire for the sub but forgot to take a good picture of it. Its larger silver/black knu 12ga.

(sorry for the bad pictures)
http://i.imgur.com/SUoTPl.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/CvkvYl.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/yBiX0l.jpg

helotr3vor
04-06-2012, 04:38 PM
My SAX-1200D came in today! Was a little nervous at first cause ive never purchased referbed but pretty happy with what I got so far. There was only 2 small scratches that were easily hidden with a black sharpie. Going to be able to get 90% of the build complete now with the amp in. Either going to work on the mount tonight or this weekend. Take a look..

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/thollabaugh/IMG_1065.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/thollabaugh/IMG_1066.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/thollabaugh/IMG_1067.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/thollabaugh/IMG_1068.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/thollabaugh/IMG_1069.jpg

helotr3vor
04-06-2012, 07:02 PM
Test ran the 1/0ga to 4ga input adapters and they were a tad too big. Filed down the edges a tinny bit and fits nicely now. They are very secure when tightened so I dont think they will ever touch but do you think I should wrap them in electrical tape or let the chrome shine?

http://i.imgur.com/KFJqVl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bhehUl.jpg

TheUnderFighter
04-06-2012, 07:34 PM
Just put a slab of copper between them to make sure they don't touch ;)

Everything looks like it's coming along nicely. I love the Knu RCA's. How much were those Stinger reducers though?

helotr3vor
04-06-2012, 07:47 PM
Just put a slab of copper between them to make sure they don't touch ;)

Everything looks like it's coming along nicely. I love the Knu RCA's. How much were those Stinger reducers though?

Cant tell if joking.. The reducers were like 8 each. You think ill be fine with nothing between them but a remote wire?

Falcons
04-06-2012, 08:05 PM
Cant tell if joking.. The reducers were like 8 each. You think ill be fine with nothing between them but a remote wire?

I would wrap them in tape just to be 100% safe. I'm gonna buy some heat shrink wrap when I get mine to keep it clean.

helotr3vor
04-06-2012, 11:47 PM
Ran into my first speed bump. Finally got everything to fit nicely but I have one issue. The amp sits low to the floor and leaves me with no room for the adapters and it would even be tough putting the power and negative 1/0 in directly with shaving. What do you think I should do? I can only get about another inch clearance for the bottom if I screw the amp more up and to the right of the rack. I cant use the power and ground at the top because the red power line is as long as it will go. I would have to run a new line if I wanted to do that, which I do have extra wire, it will just be black. Hmm... I got some thinking to do... any opinions?

http://i.imgur.com/o64J9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7vKVz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/81sAE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pxIoz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XETiA.jpg?2

TheUnderFighter
04-07-2012, 04:53 AM
Cant tell if joking.. The reducers were like 8 each. You think ill be fine with nothing between them but a remote wire?

I was definitely joking about the copper slab :P come on man... haha.
And I'd wrap them in electrical safe to be safe, that's just me though. I like the idea of heat shrink as well.
And the only solution I have for your space concern, if you don't want to move your amp, is to have toolmaker make you custom inputs that have a 90 degree angle, so you're not limited on space any more. They wouldn't be cheap, his inputs usually cost like... $40 or $50 I think, but they are TOP-NOTCH, and gorgeous. HJere's a link to his stuff: Show off your "Toolmaker" goodies here - Car Audio Classifieds (http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/tool-maker/46437-show-off-your-toolmaker-goodies-here.html) post #5 shows off his inputs. They are all made however you like, so you'd just have to tell him your requirements. And he's the link to everything else you'd need to know: (Tool Maker) - Car Audio Classifieds (http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/tool-maker/)

helotr3vor
04-07-2012, 02:07 PM
I was definitely joking about the copper slab :P come on man... haha.
And I'd wrap them in electrical safe to be safe, that's just me though. I like the idea of heat shrink as well.
And the only solution I have for your space concern, if you don't want to move your amp, is to have toolmaker make you custom inputs that have a 90 degree angle, so you're not limited on space any more. They wouldn't be cheap, his inputs usually cost like... $40 or $50 I think, but they are TOP-NOTCH, and gorgeous. HJere's a link to his stuff: Show off your "Toolmaker" goodies here - Car Audio Classifieds (http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/tool-maker/46437-show-off-your-toolmaker-goodies-here.html) post #5 shows off his inputs. They are all made however you like, so you'd just have to tell him your requirements. And he's the link to everything else you'd need to know: (Tool Maker) - Car Audio Classifieds (http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/tool-maker/)

Thanks I talked to a few guys last night and I think they said he isn't taking orders right now so I hit up project DB with a message. If I understand correctly with the heat shrink I will be shaving the 1/0ga to 4ga with like an inch of wire showing and then there is a rubber fitting that goes around it? I wonder what the difference in price is from toolmaker and project db.

helotr3vor
04-07-2012, 05:18 PM
So while I wait to hear from project db and toolmaker here is what I got so far. I had to get some larger screws for the factory amp to be more secure. I also drilled a hole in the amp bracing to get more strength on the left side. I also got some spacers I can use that are about 1/4in tall. I can put these under the sundown amp to get a tiny bit more room but not sure if I should yet. Only got an inch of room without them. Think im going to go with 90 degree reducers if they will fit the amp and are small enough.

http://i.imgur.com/SqLwNl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YsScTl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OYNwJl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/h1jqXl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Mcws1l.jpg?1

TheUnderFighter
04-07-2012, 06:57 PM
I was thinking of using heat shrink around the stinger reduces to keep them safe. Think of it as a sleeve of electrical tape, that when you heat up, it shrinks tight around the object. But it sounds like you don't have enough room for those reducers, so if you hook it up, just strip the wire down real good to fit, then I'd use heat shrink around that to keep it clean and safe.
Good call on emailing both them guys, hopefully you can get something affordable soon! Then again, affordable and Audi don't really go hand in hand :P haha.
Just get a bunch of those spacers stacked up until you have enough clearance :P

helotr3vor
04-07-2012, 07:44 PM
I was thinking of using heat shrink around the stinger reduces to keep them safe. Think of it as a sleeve of electrical tape, that when you heat up, it shrinks tight around the object. But it sounds like you don't have enough room for those reducers, so if you hook it up, just strip the wire down real good to fit, then I'd use heat shrink around that to keep it clean and safe.
Good call on emailing both them guys, hopefully you can get something affordable soon! Then again, affordable and Audi don't really go hand in hand :P haha.
Just get a bunch of those spacers stacked up until you have enough clearance :P

Haha I could actually get some pretty long spacers but I thought it would make it look odd. The more I look at toolmaker and project db's work the more I want some haha. I can picture exactly what I need in my head I might try and work it out in paint even though it would look horrible. I just hope I could get them at the same time my sub comes in. Although I think Don needs another week or two to work on the enclosure.

helotr3vor
04-07-2012, 09:20 PM
Talked to project db and hes going to get working on the vertical reducers tomorrow :D. Here is a sketchup of what its going to look like.

http://i.imgur.com/2Zcit.png?1

helotr3vor
04-07-2012, 11:05 PM
Here is a few more pictures. I added the spacers to the sundown amp but still need 2 more spacers for the rack to sit perfect on the chassis. **** hardware stores closing early on Saturdays...

Really liking how the amp rack has turned out so far. Love how it sits slanted for a professional look and I should have just a perfect amount of room to plug everything in at the bottom.

http://i.imgur.com/PfFA1l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jHd2gl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ddjyIl.jpg?1

Here you can notice plenty of room for the trunk arm and spring to slide freely

http://i.imgur.com/RYzWJl.jpg

helotr3vor
04-08-2012, 04:08 PM
Put the last 2 spacers in and tightened things up as much as I could. Its very hard to get to the top two screws to fasten the rack in place. Takes quite a bit of patience with a wrench and awkward angles. Hooking everything up once the project db adapters get here. Happy Easter everyone!

http://i.imgur.com/p8GzEl.jpg

Falcons
04-08-2012, 04:12 PM
Really enjoying this. Givin me some good ideas for my Audi build. How did you get to the bare metal of your trunk lid? I know there are clips that come off but after that I can't figure it out.

helotr3vor
04-08-2012, 04:18 PM
Really enjoying this. Givin me some good ideas for my Audi build. How did you get to the bare metal of your trunk lid? I know there are clips that come off but after that I can't figure it out.

This is what a buddy on the Audi forums sent me for removing the trunk lid panel and the side panels in the trunk.

"Use this to remove the trunk lid liner:
http://www.audienthusiasts.com/Proje...yTriangle.html

I have not seen instructions for the side panels:
1.) Remove the opening skid plate (this is the hardest part and will feel like you're about to break it)
- there should be four clips on the top and two guides on the fwd side
- pry under one of the side edges to get a grip and then pull straight up
2.) Remove the backseat filler panels (these are the pieces between the seat backs and the door seals)
- locate and remove attaching bolt under the corner of seat bottom (this is kind of a PITA to push down on the cushion while trying to remove the bolt)
- lift bottom of filler out from under the seat bottom and then pull panel down and out, disengaging two clips and clearing top from C-pillar
3.) Remove the sides
- remove the four tie-down plates (D-rings) from the trunk floor
- starting in the back, pull inboard to release three clips each side
- there are two plastic pins holding the sides to the rear deck, pull these straight down
- fold rear seats down (if you do not have folding seats, you may have to remove your seat back)
- pull side panel inboard working it our from under the rear deck trim and rear seat crevices wires etc"

Falcons
04-08-2012, 04:43 PM
This is what a buddy on the Audi forums sent me for removing the trunk lid panel and the side panels in the trunk.

"Use this to remove the trunk lid liner:
http://www.audienthusiasts.com/Proje...yTriangle.html

I have not seen instructions for the side panels:
1.) Remove the opening skid plate (this is the hardest part and will feel like you're about to break it)
- there should be four clips on the top and two guides on the fwd side
- pry under one of the side edges to get a grip and then pull straight up
2.) Remove the backseat filler panels (these are the pieces between the seat backs and the door seals)
- locate and remove attaching bolt under the corner of seat bottom (this is kind of a PITA to push down on the cushion while trying to remove the bolt)
- lift bottom of filler out from under the seat bottom and then pull panel down and out, disengaging two clips and clearing top from C-pillar
3.) Remove the sides
- remove the four tie-down plates (D-rings) from the trunk floor
- starting in the back, pull inboard to release three clips each side
- there are two plastic pins holding the sides to the rear deck, pull these straight down
- fold rear seats down (if you do not have folding seats, you may have to remove your seat back)
- pull side panel inboard working it our from under the rear deck trim and rear seat crevices wires etc"

Thanks a lot man that's gonna come in handy for deadening

TheUnderFighter
04-08-2012, 04:54 PM
I'm sure you'll be pleased with the reducers, I think their custom work adds a really nice touch too. And Don may take a while, but the box sure does come out nice. Are you going carpeted or textured paint or high gloss finish?

helotr3vor
04-08-2012, 04:58 PM
I'm sure you'll be pleased with the reducers, I think their custom work adds a really nice touch too. And Don may take a while, but the box sure does come out nice. Are you going carpeted or textured paint or high gloss finish?

Yeah im excited to see the reducers. The box is going to be black carpet with a silver painted port. It will match the silver logo dustcap on the Q :fro:

helotr3vor
04-09-2012, 10:28 PM
Just checked UPS and Fi shipped the sub out today. It'll be at my door tomorrow afternoon so ill make sure to take pictures. I'm guessing the custom reducers will get in on Wed. or Fri. Very excited! :offwall:

TheUnderFighter
04-12-2012, 02:57 PM
Just checked UPS and Fi shipped the sub out today. It'll be at my door tomorrow afternoon so ill make sure to take pictures. I'm guessing the custom reducers will get in on Wed. or Fri. Very excited! :offwall:

SCORE! Make sure to do a smexy photoshoot with it!
Now we're just waiting on DonH scrawny little *** to get going :P

J31Rob
04-12-2012, 03:17 PM
Great build. Recently did a build in an 04 A4. I wish his battery was in the trunk.. those firewalls aren't fun to put 1/0 through.

Everything is spot on. Definitely stoked to see the finished product. Keep the pictures coming.

DonH
04-12-2012, 04:04 PM
He got the sub guys and ups fucked it up :(

helotr3vor
04-12-2012, 04:23 PM
Yup Ill post some pictures of the damaged sub and I also just got my reducers! They look great and test fitted them should work out perfect.

http://i.imgur.com/WrC4vl.jpg

UPS dropped the sub from about 20ft bent the **** out of the basket.

helotr3vor
04-13-2012, 02:51 PM
So yesterday I got my reducers in from project db and they worked absolutely perfect. Not only that but they look nice too :). Electrical tape had the exact same width so I just cut two pieces and slapped them on the insides just in case it ever loosens up and I don't notice. Since I had the amp rack out at the time I also decided to black out the floor. I had a layer of duct tape over the yellow foam and then put electrical tape on top of that. Came out pretty nice and now your not staring at an ugly floor when showing off the amp. The 1/0ga fit nice and snug with the reducers and amp rack in place. Going to the hardware store soon to get a small wrench to fit the bolts that go on to hold the amp rack in place since it is in an awkward place and I cant use my socket wrench. RCA, Speaker wire, and Remote wire are also plugged in so all that's left is connecting the sub. Unfortunately if you don't know already UPS totally F'ed up my package from Fi. When I saw the box at my door it was cracked and a corner was concaved in. I was told by someone who used to work for Fi that it must have dropped off the belt from at least 20ft. The basket is completely bent pulling and ruining the surround as well. There is also a gash in the magnet. Even handicapped and all the sub still looks beastly and weights at 47lbs. Talked with Scott of Fi and he said they are already building my replacement. Will be sending back the sub as soon as we get things worked out with UPS. Although that was a bummer I still got my amp completely set up and love how it turned out. Funny story, I couldn't figure out why my amps blue power light wasn't turning on for about 45 minutes then finally realized I never put the fuse in on the in-line holder for safety precautions. I used a 250a fuse but will be using a 100a fuse so that it will pop before the 40ax3 would give on the amp. Should have them in a week or so. Anyways got the blue power light on after I added the fuse and everything seemed to work properly.

http://i.imgur.com/P3Ouil.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gliHSl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jB1BWl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EU8yhl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WHArCl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DbjuPl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lZX0kl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bG34Ul.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BBxFLl.jpg

helotr3vor
04-13-2012, 02:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/P4UMkl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Q90B0l.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/E2ueIl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XYZt3l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nFqaWl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Dne68l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WHRUbl.jpg

That's it for now :)

Falcons
04-13-2012, 02:54 PM
dude that blows!!!! excellent job so far though. those reducers are **** as hell!

helotr3vor
04-13-2012, 03:01 PM
dude that blows!!!! excellent job so far though. those reducers are **** as hell!

Thanks man. Yeah I love em they give me about half an inch to the floor also. Perfect size. The black floor is streak free without flash as well. Think it was a nice little add on.

helotr3vor
04-14-2012, 02:03 PM
Calling TheUnderFighter

wenn_du_weinst
04-14-2012, 03:02 PM
I see you got the new FI's with the playdough baskets. They did that to my shocker as well, not sure how they managed it to a sub that is as light as a Q. Did you talk to Fi about it already?

helotr3vor
04-14-2012, 03:31 PM
I see you got the new FI's with the playdough baskets. They did that to my shocker as well, not sure how they managed it to a sub that is as light as a Q. Did you talk to Fi about it already?

Yes everything is being taken care of. Scott from Fi told me they have already started working on the replacement and made it top priority. UPS came for the package yesterday but I had no mention of it so the package was sealed when they got here. They are coming back Monday to pick it up. Cant tell if serious but I was told by Nick(who used to work for Fi) that the sub must have dropped of the belt from at least 20ft. He has seen other damaged subs. And the Q isn't necessarily "light" it still weighs in at 47lbs for a 12.

wenn_du_weinst
04-14-2012, 03:34 PM
Take what Nick says with a grain of salt, Scott is the only one to trust. It wouldn't doubt me that they would drop something that high and let it go though.

helotr3vor
04-14-2012, 03:40 PM
Take what Nick says with a grain of salt, Scott is the only one to trust. It wouldn't doubt me that they would drop something that high and let it go though.

The whole box was fucked up when I got it from my door. one corner was completely caved in and one side was cracked open. Sounds like a UPS problem to me.

DonH
04-14-2012, 03:52 PM
The whole box was fucked up when I got it from my door. one corner was completely caved in and one side was cracked open. Sounds like a UPS problem to me.

indeed.... it is! guess what! assembly on yo box starts monday :0

wenn_du_weinst
04-14-2012, 03:54 PM
The whole box was fucked up when I got it from my door. one corner was completely caved in and one side was cracked open. Sounds like a UPS problem to me.

I meant I wouldn't put it past ups to drop the bastard off the roof then deliver. I wasn't saying fi sent out a broken sub lol.

DonH
04-14-2012, 04:00 PM
I meant I wouldn't put it past ups to drop the bastard off the roof then deliver. I wasn't saying fi sent out a broken sub lol.

inorite! i received a tc 5400 couple months ago... totally mangled!!! and the topper, it was in a crate, double boxed. lol

helotr3vor
04-14-2012, 04:00 PM
indeed.... it is! guess what! assembly on yo box starts monday :0

That's good news! Can't wait to see it. :yumyum:

wenn_du_weinst
04-14-2012, 04:19 PM
inorite! i received a tc 5400 couple months ago... totally mangled!!! and the topper, it was in a crate, double boxed. lol

There is no reason to be scared about your packages being able to make it across the country. Thinking about how much I pay to ship crap I should be able to feel like my stuff will not be destroyed.

DonH
04-14-2012, 04:37 PM
There is no reason to be scared about your packages being able to make it across the country. Thinking about how much I pay to ship crap I should be able to feel like my stuff will not be destroyed.

i totally agree :(

it ****** as it was a Barely used OG 5400 :( so sad

wenn_du_weinst
04-14-2012, 04:40 PM
i totally agree :(

it ****** as it was a Barely used OG 5400 :( so sad
I've got a XXX motor coming in the mail, if they smash it I'll be pissed. I'm curious to see how this build goes, been looking into an Audi for a daily driver.

helotr3vor
04-14-2012, 04:47 PM
I've got a XXX motor coming in the mail, if they smash it I'll be pissed. I'm curious to see how this build goes, been looking into an Audi for a daily driver.

To give you an idea, this is about how much room the box will take up for mine. Although its going to have an inch or two more room on the sides and top.
http://i.imgur.com/kU7ZMl.jpg

wenn_du_weinst
04-14-2012, 04:53 PM
anyway you could send me a pm with the trunk dimensions?

TheUnderFighter
04-14-2012, 11:30 PM
Haha, thanks for the tag! AWESOME reducers, glad they fit in perfect. And that is a tremendous bummer about the sub, which, still looks very very **** in it's busted up form. That thing got ANNIHILATED! On the positive note, the new one will probably be coming in the same time as your box ;) Barring any unforeseen DonH incidents... like broken racks or his house getting robbed or something :P

helotr3vor
04-14-2012, 11:48 PM
Haha, thanks for the tag! AWESOME reducers, glad they fit in perfect. And that is a tremendous bummer about the sub, which, still looks very very **** in it's busted up form. That thing got ANNIHILATED! On the positive note, the new one will probably be coming in the same time as your box ;) Barring any unforeseen DonH incidents... like broken racks or his house getting robbed or something :P

Haha none so far. Just going to have to be patient for a week or two since I've done everything I could for now. I'm actually trying to swap out my tweeters but I need a pair that would work well with my factory amp. Still trying to get more information on that.

DonH
04-15-2012, 02:12 AM
Im one clumsy person lol

helotr3vor
04-15-2012, 04:14 PM
Last pic of the girl before she gets rapped up and sent back...
http://i.imgur.com/3GgZxl.jpg

helotr3vor
04-18-2012, 11:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dcxaHl.jpg

Ordered Dayton 6" and 3" for the front stage and center. Got Vifa tweeters that will work great with them. They are coming in on monday.

TheUnderFighter
04-19-2012, 03:53 AM
http://i.imgur.com/dcxaHl.jpg

Ordered Dayton 6" and 3" for the front stage and center. Got Vifa tweeters that will work great with them. They are coming in on monday.

BOING! Nice man, more stuff to work on!
That Fi sticker is looking nice, I wish I hadn't lost my decals for my gear >.<

helotr3vor
04-19-2012, 01:08 PM
BOING! Nice man, more stuff to work on!
That Fi sticker is looking nice, I wish I hadn't lost my decals for my gear >.<

I think its just temp for now. When "the real" package comes from Fi I think I'm going to order 2 more stickers one black and one silver. Then have the silver one slightly under the black on to make a shadow effect to match the box/sub/interior :)

Falcons
04-19-2012, 01:25 PM
audi build ftw! lol i always get pumped when you bump this up

helotr3vor
04-19-2012, 01:41 PM
audi build ftw! lol i always get pumped when you bump this up

Next week should have big updates :fro:

robertoyoung08
04-19-2012, 03:42 PM
Just put a slab of copper between them to make sure they don't touch ;)

Everything looks like it's coming along nicely. I love the Knu RCA's. How much were those Stinger reducers though?

wrap them up just to be sure. i know they are nice and pretty to look at, but its better to be safe than screw up your amp with a short.

I used these exact ones btw. and they work great! makes it super easy to connect/disconnect from my sax1500.. love it. stinger shouldve made the outside coating out of plastic or covered it. how stupid to make the outside suseptible to conducting electricity when they will be used for power. very dangerous. tape them up!

helotr3vor
04-19-2012, 03:45 PM
wrap them up just to be sure. i know they are nice and pretty to look at, but its better to be safe than screw up your amp with a short.

I used these exact ones btw. and they work great! makes it super easy to connect/disconnect from my sax1500.. love it. stinger shouldve made the outside coating out of plastic or covered it. how stupid to make the outside suseptible to conducting electricity when they will be used for power. very dangerous. tape them up!

The new reducers are on page 4 I didn't end up using the Stinger ones because of clearance issues.

AudioAnonymous
04-22-2012, 09:43 AM
Nice build. I'm glad the reducers worked for you and you are happy with them . :)

helotr3vor
04-22-2012, 03:45 PM
Nice build. I'm glad the reducers worked for you and you are happy with them . :)

Thanks Geoff! Couldn't have done it without you.

helotr3vor
04-23-2012, 05:38 PM
First of the parts express packages came today :). Includes the Vifa tweeters and Dayton 3" full range I will be using as center. Going to install later tonight once I get some connectors for the speakers.

http://i.imgur.com/RCHe8l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9lpXLl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RWGXAl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lqIr1l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0pr3Wl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LjJBQl.jpg

TheUnderFighter
04-23-2012, 06:04 PM
Where's that center going? Are you gonna hack up your dash?

helotr3vor
04-23-2012, 06:10 PM
Where's that center going? Are you gonna hack up your dash?

You'll see :naughty:

TheUnderFighter
04-23-2012, 06:31 PM
-_-

wenn_du_weinst
04-23-2012, 06:36 PM
doesn't the A4 have a factory center speaker?

TheUnderFighter
04-23-2012, 06:50 PM
doesn't the A4 have a factory center speaker?

If so, he's cheating :P

helotr3vor
04-24-2012, 01:07 PM
Yes the A4 does have a center. But it still takes some modification to get the Dayton 3" to squeeze in nicely.

Got quite a bit done once my speakers came in. I replaced all the dash speakers which are definitely the hardest to work on with the window being so close. Took a total of 5 hardware stops before I had everything I needed to complete the job. I replaced my center speaker with a Dayton 3" full range woofer and changed the two tweeters with the Vifa dual ring tweeters. For the tweeters I added about a foot of extra wire for if I decide to place the tweeters in the A-pillars later on. I fabricated speaker mounts out of a vinyl tile I got at home depot. The material actually worked out really well cause I had a wooden looking top for nice aesthetics while the bottom side was sticky so it wont budge at all when screwed in. For the center I had to modify the bottom under the speaker to get it to fit nicely. I also had to stack 3 layers of the vinyl tile to give it a little extra room. I made all the baffles by hand so it was tricky and took a while to get everything perfect. 60 grade sand paper helped me grind the center circle perfectly. Only got to listen to it for about 1 minute but it already blew my socks off. It sounded so much more natural and clean and im pretty sure It got even louder than the factory speakers. I have to test it out for a longer period of time and see how the factory amp responds. So far I'm very happy with the results. The Dayton 6" woofers don't come in till thursday but I wont be able to install those till I get my deadening material from SDS. Here they are :fro:

http://i.imgur.com/7WgOAl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OHcwzl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9KBGVl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/e6Iecl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xyRY1l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AW99el.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6L1PWl.jpg

Going to be running a sharpee over the silver screws. At the right angle and right light you can see them shine through. Easy fix though :)

helotr3vor
04-25-2012, 12:35 PM
TheUnderFighter falcons03079313 wenn_du_weinst

Come on in fellas :fro:

Falcons
04-25-2012, 12:46 PM
I'm here! And it's looking **** ****! :suave:

TheUnderFighter
04-25-2012, 02:37 PM
Looking very good man! I'll bet it's sounding way better! Especially when you get the new mids in. everything is looking very clean, you've done a great job. I can't remember, did you have any plans of replacing the factory amp?

helotr3vor
04-25-2012, 03:15 PM
Thanks guys :). Yeah I want to upgrade my factory amp with a ms-8 and a sundown 125.4 when it comes out but I cant get those for at least 4 months. Got a bunch of stuff I want to get before. Ill have to keep the factory amp the whole time though because it needs to give the steering wheel and other functions to the head unit. The Daytons/Vifas are already sounding louder and more clear (no more blown tweeter) so its good enough for me for a while :P

helotr3vor
04-26-2012, 04:31 PM
They Dayton 6" woofers came in today! Took a few pics. Cant install them for about a week so they are just going to sit and tease me.

http://i.imgur.com/sM9pFl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UQ5y1l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EjLuHl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/z0P3Xl.jpg

wenn_du_weinst
04-26-2012, 04:45 PM
looks good so far.

helotr3vor
04-26-2012, 05:05 PM
looks good so far.

Thanks man ^.^

helotr3vor
05-02-2012, 11:33 PM
Getting two shipments in tomorrow from UPS. Think you might be able to guess the second one?

helotr3vor
05-05-2012, 01:38 PM
Ran into a reallllllly noob issue yesterday and didn't get it figured out till late. Promise I'll update later today with a sample video and pictures. Not a big update just got those 2 shipments in and show u guys the sub moving a little bit.

Falcons
05-05-2012, 02:09 PM
Let's go trevor your slacking lol

helotr3vor
05-05-2012, 02:16 PM
Let's go trevor your slacking lol

Cant finish up till I get the box and baffles from Don :bawling:

DonH
05-05-2012, 02:35 PM
im waiting on the **** carpet to come in!!! hah!

helotr3vor
05-05-2012, 02:37 PM
im waiting on the **** carpet to come in!!! hah!

Indeed ha. The baffles going to be done at the same time? Or should I head down to my buddies shop to make em?

helotr3vor
05-05-2012, 08:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7smjAcdTdwk

First video for the log. Nothing special...

Couple pictures of the new sub next to the Dayton 6" and my SDS deadening products. One small sheet of MLV/CCF will be enough for the two front doors with about 8"x34" extra to add in the trunk.

http://i.imgur.com/I9WCIl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pysSsl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/g1lQWl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8xFxal.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KNdaxl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zsTVEl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XI3Fcl.jpg

helotr3vor
05-08-2012, 12:19 AM
bumparoo :groovy:

resonate
05-08-2012, 12:23 AM
:boink:

How do you think Fi subwoofers compare in performance to Sundown's subwoofers?

helotr3vor
05-08-2012, 12:37 AM
:boink:

How do you think Fi subwoofers compare in performance to Sundown's subwoofers?

I cant really say because I've never used a Sundown sub. From what I've heard Fi might have better sound clarity but that's also very dependent on the box. I'm going a little more towards the SQ end though so that's why I decided on the Q. From what I've heard Sundown doesn't match a sub very well that compares to the Q. Almost ran the SA sub though but think they are more aimed towards SPL.

resonate
05-08-2012, 10:52 AM
I cant really say because I've never used a Sundown sub. From what I've heard Fi might have better sound clarity but that's also very dependent on the box. I'm going a little more towards the SQ end though so that's why I decided on the Q. From what I've heard Sundown doesn't match a sub very well that compares to the Q. Almost ran the SA sub though but think they are more aimed towards SPL.

Nummy SPLs. :yumyum:

helotr3vor
05-08-2012, 10:33 PM
Got some deadening done today. Only got one door done though and didn't take enough pics so I'll just leave you with one spoiler pic for now. When I do the other door ill make sure to take a bunch of more pictures and leave a better update. For now...
http://i.imgur.com/ZtfEEl.jpg

Falcons
05-08-2012, 10:36 PM
how big of a difference did you see when you did the door as far as midbass and overall sq go?

helotr3vor
05-08-2012, 10:52 PM
how big of a difference did you see when you did the door as far as midbass and overall sq go?

I won't know till my Dayton 6" are installed. To be honest I didn't even really play it very loud on the way to class so all I've been able to notice so far is the heaver door and more of a muffled sound when I close the door. Also with only one done it kinda throws me off. You have to be extremely patient with it and it took a lot longer than I expected... as always...

Falcons
05-08-2012, 10:58 PM
I won't know till my Dayton 6" are installed. To be honest I didn't even really play it very loud on the way to class so all I've been able to notice so far is the heaver door and more of a muffled sound when I close the door. Also with only one done it kinda throws me off. You have to be extremely patient with it and it took a lot longer than I expected... as always...

well when you get the daytons in let me know cause i want to do this to my doors as well

helotr3vor
05-08-2012, 11:01 PM
well when you get the daytons in let me know cause i want to do this to my doors as well

Will do bro

TheUnderFighter
05-19-2012, 02:29 PM
and it took a lot longer than I expected... as always...

Story of my life! haha. Looking good man. Get the other door done and get yourself a demo. See how awesome the mid-bass is now. And hear it before the sub. I've had no sub running for the past couple weeks and it makes me very greatful for my mid-bass haha.

wenn_du_weinst
05-19-2012, 02:48 PM
yeah I've been able to go sub less a lot longer when my doors are sealed, depending on the music you listen to the midbass may be plenty to last you till the box ships.

helotr3vor
08-16-2012, 12:43 AM
Hey guys first off sorry about the MIA but back now and the build is complete! (for now).. Picked up the box today and just screwed the sub in with T nuts wired it in and was ready to go. Unfortunately I rushed and pierced the surround when screwing in the last screw but it is a small whole and I have not noticed any defects or air passing. Should I seal it with something, get it fixed, or is it something to not worry at all about? I will upload a bunch more pics and a video tomorrow but for now I will just show you guys 2 spoiler pics.

http://i.imgur.com/bkESBl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GWq0Xl.jpg
Sounds absolutly great right now and really balanced. Going to be downloading music all night ofcourse

2ndroundko
08-17-2012, 11:19 AM
looks great I followed your build from day one. How does the tweeters in the dash sound? I have a blazer and it has a front speaker location in the dash that I am not using. just wanna know how you like it with the sound reflecting off the windsheild

SourDeez
08-17-2012, 01:03 PM
You punctured the sub or the speakers surround?

either way just dab a little goop on it (inside and outside preferably)

helotr3vor
08-18-2012, 05:15 PM
looks great I followed your build from day one. How does the tweeters in the dash sound? I have a blazer and it has a front speaker location in the dash that I am not using. just wanna know how you like it with the sound reflecting off the windsheild
It still sounds fine in the dash but I think you would get better balance if they were in the A pillars or aimed. Thanks for following man :)


You punctured the sub or the speakers surround?

either way just dab a little goop on it (inside and outside preferably)
Yeah I put a small hole in the sub's surround when i was screwing it in :banghead:. Also I forgot to keep track of which terminal was positive/negative so I kinda had to guess when I connected the back terminal. Would it be easy to tell if it was reversed polarity?

TheUnderFighter
08-18-2012, 05:50 PM
Put some silicone on the surround to prevent further damage.
Use a AA battery to determine speaker polarity. Connect the leads to positive and negative, accordingly. If the speaker moves OUT, you guessed correctly and your wiring is fine. If the speaker moves in, they are backwards and you have reversed polarity.

helotr3vor
08-18-2012, 05:56 PM
Put some silicone on the surround to prevent further damage.
Use a AA battery to determine speaker polarity. Connect the leads to positive and negative, accordingly. If the speaker moves OUT, you guessed correctly and your wiring is fine. If the speaker moves in, they are backwards and you have reversed polarity.

Thanks UF ill try it out

DonH
08-18-2012, 06:52 PM
Weeeeeee hows it sounding? **** car btw man!

CJL
08-18-2012, 06:56 PM
How do you like the LC2i?

helotr3vor
08-18-2012, 07:07 PM
Weeeeeee hows it sounding? **** car btw man! Thanks bro I'm feeling lazy at the moment but those pictures and video's will come soon. Just been enjoying it for now. Really brought everything together.


How do you like the LC2i?
It ended up working perfectly for my situation so I would recommend it. No complaints :)

CJL
08-18-2012, 11:13 PM
It ended up working perfectly for my situation so I would recommend it. No complaints :)

Nice! I always wondered about a LOCs SQ.

What's your opinion about the Acuubass feature?