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Why So Cereal?
02-19-2012, 03:08 PM
Looking for a nice full range driver to run (probably in my pillars).

I love the midrange I got from my TB w4 bamboos but I like brighter highs than some and they dont do it for me. They are *** for a 3 way front; but I want to run a 2 way front with midbass and full range.

Preferably no smaller than 3" and nice upper end extension. Anybody know of anything?

No set budget, but nothing ridiculous

also not really wanting to run HAT.

Why So Cereal?
02-20-2012, 11:17 PM
Fountek FR88EX 3" Full Range: Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-3-fullrange/fountek-fr88ex-3-full-range/)

Markaudio Alpair-6M Gold 3.5" Fullrange Gen 2: Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-3-fullrange/markaudio-alpair-6m-gold-3.5-fullrange-gen-2/)

Markaudio Alpair-6P Paper Cone 3.5" Fullrange Gen 2: Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-3-fullrange/markaudio-alpair-6p-paper-cone-3.5-fullrange-gen-2/)

Fountek FR89EX 3" Full Range - 8 ohm: Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-3-fullrange/fountek-fr89ex-3-full-range-8-ohm/)

Kind of liking these...any thoughts?

whitedragon551
02-20-2012, 11:22 PM
I vote against the 88EX. The cone material makes them sound tinny in reviews Ive read. As for the Markaudio cant go wrong with either pair. I went with the Audible Physics AP3's. I got mine on DIYMA for the same price they were on preorder for.

CHEMMINS
02-20-2012, 11:24 PM
I don't know. I have been looking at decent 3-4" full rangers for a couple weeks now. The first Founteks are the best of the 4 you have listed. I am looking into other options for full range on the cheapz. but not too much out there unless you go co-ax. You can get a full frequency in a 4" that way.

Why So Cereal?
02-20-2012, 11:34 PM
I vote against the 88EX. The cone material makes them sound tinny in reviews Ive read. As for the Markaudio cant go wrong with either pair. I went with the Audible Physics AP3's. I got mine on DIYMA for the same price they were on preorder for.

I was waiting for you to jump in here lol. I've read that too about the 88EX. I really am leaning towards the Markaudio as I hear they will play lower too. I'm still looking around for some other options though. I hear the Tang Band w3 1285sg is great. But, no american dealers seem to have them. So I'm gonna try and see if PE can special order me some.


I don't know. I have been looking at decent 3-4" full rangers for a couple weeks now. The first Founteks are the best of the 4 you have listed. I am looking into other options for full range on the cheapz. but not too much out there unless you go co-ax. You can get a full frequency in a 4" that way.

If I did go coax, it'd have to be a really high end 3 or 4" coax. I really want to eliminate tweeters. I did a shoebox mock up in my room (LOL) with my TB w4 1320sj bamboo drivers and with some EQ up top, they actually dont sound bad at all and I love the way everything blends. But they need to be DEAD on axis and if u even think about moving your head, youre losing highs. So, I'm thinking something with a more rigid/ metallic cone would help me out since I tend to be more partial to aluminum tweets anyway. I'm gettin mixed reviews on the Founteks...WD said one thing about them being tinny and i've seen that as well, but also I've read about people loving them....decisions, decisions

keep_hope_alive
02-20-2012, 11:53 PM
I am interested in MarkAudio as well. Probably your best bet

CHEMMINS
02-20-2012, 11:59 PM
These look promising though. - JBL P462 4" 2-way Power Series Speakers - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_12268_JBL-P462.html)

thehardknoxlife
02-21-2012, 12:01 AM
I vote against the 88EX. The cone material makes them sound tinny in reviews Ive read. As for the Markaudio cant go wrong with either pair. I went with the Audible Physics AP3's. I got mine on DIYMA for the same price they were on preorder for.I thought those were pretty much the same driver? I find the 88ex to be a great driver. Especially on the upper side compared to other wide band drivers. I'm not sure what tinny means, those audiophile terms baffle me sometimes.

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 12:04 AM
I thought those were pretty much the same driver?

the AP3's use better parts since they are no longer built by the same peepz. It has been said that the differences in sound are for you to judge but that the AP's are definitely built better/ are more durable.

thehardknoxlife
02-21-2012, 12:06 AM
the AP3's use better parts since they are no longer built by the same peepz. It has been said that the differences in sound are for you to judge but that the AP's are definitely built better/ are more durable.
Ah gotcha. I remember reading a while back they were pretty similar.

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 12:07 AM
Ah gotcha. I remember reading a while back they were pretty similar.

Iirc, AP used to build for Fountek, but when they stopped, they "upgraded" all of their drivers.

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 12:09 AM
These look promising though. - JBL P462 4" 2-way Power Series Speakers - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_12268_JBL-P462.html)

I think those would be a nice alternative given I cant get the full range idea to work and I'll already have cut up my pillars probably....

I've been wanting to try some of the JBL stuff anyway. I just wonder how coaxs perform versus full range overall...well besides the high freq beaming issues...

JimJ
02-21-2012, 12:16 AM
http://www.martinsson.cc/blog/images/fostex_fx120.jpg

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 12:20 AM
Smexy driver....but...Isnt that a 5 incher? Wouldnt that cause even more HF beaming issues than my current TB w4's?

CHEMMINS
02-21-2012, 12:36 AM
I think those would be a nice alternative given I cant get the full range idea to work and I'll already have cut up my pillars probably....

I've been wanting to try some of the JBL stuff anyway. I just wonder how coaxs perform versus full range overall...well besides the high freq beaming issues...

I think you will be able to aim it fairly spot on, and can try different axis for the tweet to ensure you hear what sounds best to you.

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 01:31 PM
Anybody know the differences in sound of the Markaudio 6p and 6m "gold"?

Also what about these vs a coax in pillars like the JBL up there

whitedragon551
02-21-2012, 02:09 PM
I thought those were pretty much the same driver? I find the 88ex to be a great driver. Especially on the upper side compared to other wide band drivers. I'm not sure what tinny means, those audiophile terms baffle me sometimes.

The Founteks were OEM'd by Audible Physics. In the AP3's they changed the cone material to some magnesium or titanium. I forget which.

knotdrummer88
02-21-2012, 02:16 PM
i saw full ranger and was like wtf is a full ranger, is that like a full size ford ranger or something? hahaha

JimJ
02-21-2012, 02:17 PM
Smexy driver....but...Isnt that a 5 incher? Wouldnt that cause even more HF beaming issues than my current TB w4's?

4", Fs of 70Hz.

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 05:33 PM
Creative Sound - Product Details (http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=EL70)

someone else recommended these... They do seem fairly promising....

wenn_du_weinst
02-21-2012, 05:34 PM
hmm I missed this thread
fostex or mark audio are my top choices. I'd go mark audio personally.

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 05:39 PM
hmm I missed this thread
fostex or mark audio are my top choices. I'd go mark audio personally.

I really am leaning towards those overall. (mark audio) But I hear the cone is fragile and that they may or may not fit in my pillars since they are pretty large.

wenn_du_weinst
02-21-2012, 05:40 PM
they are very fragile, they are impressive though. I keep putting off buying some for some dumb reason.

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 05:47 PM
they are very fragile, they are impressive though. I keep putting off buying some for some dumb reason.

I think I'm gonna grab a set of them some time soon and if all else fails and that flange is too big for my pillars, just use them in the house for some desktop speakers or something.

wenn_du_weinst
02-21-2012, 05:49 PM
I want to run them for some simple tower speakers.

Why So Cereal?
02-21-2012, 05:52 PM
Ive gotta start doing more with home audio. I do everything in my car but nothing at home. Seems like home audio can be easier too.

okiedokie
02-26-2012, 12:56 AM
^^^
Hey those mark audio will fit in your dash.
I have a scion TC.
I'm using the mark audio mids on axis.
I built some pods & they are xover around 315 high pass, slope 6.
You will need to play with the xover points to figure out what might sound good to your ears

Why So Cereal?
02-26-2012, 03:26 AM
^^^
Hey those mark audio will fit in your dash.
I have a scion TC.
I'm using the mark audio mids on axis.
I built some pods & they are xover around 315 high pass, slope 6.
You will need to play with the xover points to figure out what might sound good to your ears


Pics?!?!?! :)

Why So Cereal?
03-20-2012, 11:25 PM
Still on this idea. Thinking, if I go full range, I want to go 3 inch or smaller but would really like them to be able to play down to 300hz.

So far, I'm considering:
ES 02 BL (http://www.cdtaudio.com/series/midwoofers/es02bl.htm)
AF 256/020 Accent Fill (http://www.cdtaudio.com/series/accentfills/af256-020.htm)
Markaudio Alpair-6P Paper Cone 3.5" Fullrange Gen 2: Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-3-fullrange/markaudio-alpair-6p-paper-cone-3.5-fullrange-gen-2/)
Tang Band W3-593SF 3" Full Range Silver Cone Driver 264-809 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-809)
Dayton Audio RS75-4 3" Reference Full-Range Driver 4 Ohm 295-380 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-380)

I'm also considering going the coaxial route. That way aiming won't be so crucial in even getting high frequencies since there will be a tweeter and I'll still have that point source up high. If I go that route, the coaxs I found are:

JBL GTO328 3-1/2" 2-Way Grand Touring Coaxial Car Speakers (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17728_JBL-GTO328.html)
JL Audio C2-350x 3-1/2" Evolution C2 2-way Speakers (C2350X) (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17149_JL-Audio-C2-350x.html)
Infinity Kappa 32.9cf 3-1/2" 2-way Speakers - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_13446_Infinity-Kappa-32.9cf.html)
Focal 100CVX 4" 2-way Polyglass Series Speakers (100CVX) (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_13983_Focal-100-CVX.html)
Image Dynamics CTX-4 (CTX4) 4" 2-Way CTX Coaxial Car Speakers (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_22331_Image-Dynamics-CTX-4.html)



or maybe even something like this:
DLS Reference R4 4" 2-way Reference Car Component Speaker System (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_26144_DLS-Reference-R4.html)