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Mdude186
02-14-2012, 10:08 PM
I'm trying to find a really nice set of comps for around $500 (no more though) So far I am considering : Hertz HSK 165 (Not the XL), Image Dynamics XS65's, or PSS-010 PRO - CDT Audio 6.5. I couldn't really find any info on the CDT's maybe i'm searching the wrong model # Other suggestions are welcome of course. I would prefer to use the passives that come with any of these sets as I do not have the experience or proper equipment for it at the moment. I listen to a lot of everything but in particular I was looking for a non-harsh/bright tweeter than can deliver the guitar riffs and cybols in a non-offensive way.

Thank you for any suggestions advice you may provide!

Also, as a side note the dealers i have around where i live are severely limited and the only set of these speakers I will be able to listen to are the Hertz.

Why So Cereal?
02-14-2012, 10:12 PM
Look into Hybrid Audio and Boston Pro or SPZ lines too.

I wasn't impressed with Hertz comps for what u pay....except the Mille

But your own ears are ur best guide

mylows10
02-14-2012, 10:14 PM
i can help with any questions about cdt and you can buy them from me direct

WheresTheButta
02-14-2012, 10:15 PM
you could also check out Rainbow, Morel, or maybe even a used set of Dynaudio?

I recently saw a set of Focal KRX2 6.5" used for the neighborhood of $500, those are amazing speakers.

itsblown
02-14-2012, 10:17 PM
gah I could never imagine spending that much on one set of comps, having heard a pair of focal comps and Boston acoustic comps side by side I will for ever lean towards BA's. I cant direct you toward a certain model but I would certainly look into what they have to offer

mylows10
02-14-2012, 10:21 PM
trust me when i say a good set of components will never be as nice as great set of components but you may wanna leave some cash for some mat for the doors ,it will help

CAT MAN
02-14-2012, 10:23 PM
trust me when i say a good set of components will never be as nice as great set of components but you may wanna leave some cash for some mat for the doors ,it will help

^^^ this... speakers only sound as good as the invoroment they're in

Mdude186
02-14-2012, 11:28 PM
Hmmm, well i've heard that focals are very bright so i swayed away from them, was looking at the Focal Polyglass 165 V30 model. I'll be deadening/sealing the doors in the coming weeks, there was a separate budget for that. And referring to the HAT suggestion, i was also looking at the HAT Clarus models. Although my install options are slightly limited as i need to keep a stealth look. So the mids will be going into the doors and the tweeters will either go in the dash (Factory location) possibly tilted at a 45 degree angle and cross firing or in kick panels. The car is a 2003 Camry. Sorry i didn't provide these details previously. As for the speakers suggested would you mind describing what they would sound like in the installation placements i described?

murph
02-14-2012, 11:32 PM
Hmmm, well i've heard that focals are very bright so i swayed away from them, was looking at the Focal Polyglass 165 V30 model. I'll be deadening/sealing the doors in the coming weeks, there was a separate budget for that. And referring to the HAT suggestion, i was also looking at the HAT Clarus models. Although my install options are slightly limited as i need to keep a stealth look. So the mids will be going into the doors and the tweeters will either go in the dash (Factory location) possibly tilted at a 45 degree angle and cross firing or in kick panels. The car is a 2003 Camry. Sorry i didn't provide these details previously. As for the speakers suggested would you mind describing what they would sound like in the installation placements i described?

brightness can be compensated for so that is never a worry and the guy talking about the used Focal KRX2 6.5" you might want to get in contact with to find out where he saw them because they are pure *** components.

keep_hope_alive
02-15-2012, 06:24 AM
"bright" tweeters are usually suffering from poor installation - diffraction and reflections can result in phase interference we consider "harsh". that's why i love tweeter spheres!

Hybrid Audio - Clarus are in your price range.

whitedragon551
02-15-2012, 07:22 AM
Eclipse SC8365 3 ways for around $350 and then use the rest on deadener.

Why So Cereal?
02-15-2012, 07:44 AM
Hmmm, well i've heard that focals are very bright so i swayed away from them, was looking at the Focal Polyglass 165 V30 model. I'll be deadening/sealing the doors in the coming weeks, there was a separate budget for that. And referring to the HAT suggestion, i was also looking at the HAT Clarus models. Although my install options are slightly limited as i need to keep a stealth look. So the mids will be going into the doors and the tweeters will either go in the dash (Factory location) possibly tilted at a 45 degree angle and cross firing or in kick panels. The car is a 2003 Camry. Sorry i didn't provide these details previously. As for the speakers suggested would you mind describing what they would sound like in the installation placements i described?

I can't remember reading a review on any speaker that SOMEONE didn't think the tweeter was bright. I've really come to ignore that when ppl review speakers since , as mentioned, that can be fixed. So I wouldn't let that sway u.

Mdude186
02-15-2012, 12:13 PM
Well, i'm trying to narrow it down. I originally had my heart set on ID XS65's but whats happening with that company atm makes me hesitate. The deadening and sealing isnt a problem ill be putting one layer on the outter and inner door for each door. so out of these speakers:

hybrid audio clarus
Image Dynamics XS65
Focal Pollyglass 165 v30

which would you choose and why? assuming you must keep a stealth look by installing the mid in the door and the tweeter in either the kick or the dash angled and cross firing. Also, that the passives that come with the speakers will be used. and also if the price differences between the speakers are truly woth it (ex. ID is 100 less than HAT)

Thank you very much for your help and suggestions thus far, they are very helpful. I dont mean to ignore any posts, i've read them all, im just trying to focus the topic of disscussion. (also if things are misspelled or bad punctuation i typed this on my phone, sorry in advance)

Why So Cereal?
02-15-2012, 12:22 PM
I'd go HAT...Focal....ID....of those. I doubt I'd ever run those Focals or IDs though.

Boston acoustics would be my first choice in the range then the Hybrid. Also morel and dynaudio and rainbow.

Mdude186
02-15-2012, 05:49 PM
Well, I started looking into the SPZ set and they have certainly generated a lot nice words/reviews. Do you think the tweeters would perform well angled in the dash? Also, do you think powering them with an alpine PDX f4 bridged would be sufficient?

One more thing as well, I've read users complaining about the speakers making certain recordings sound jumbled. One poster over at DIYMA said "I will say there is a fault to this set, and could be a deal breaker for a lot of people. I have found so far that crappy recordings (or media formats period) sound extra crappy! I know....its kind of a Duh! statement but be warned! If you listen to crap...your gonna be really pissed if you get these. I found that shady recordings; underground, certain techno, punk, death metal, etc... tend to be a giant jumble of "stuff" via there particular chosen recording processes."

Do you believe he is speaking just about bad quality MP3's? Or about just those music genres in general? (I listen to most of those). My music is normally played through my iPod which is all in Apple Lossless.







Original thread that i quoted: Boston Acoustics SPZ60......YUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!! - DIYMA.com - Scientific Car Audio - Truth in Sound Quality (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/member-reviews-product-comparisons/99040-boston-acoustics-spz60-yummy.html)

Why So Cereal?
02-15-2012, 06:12 PM
Well, I started looking into the SPZ set and they have certainly generated a lot nice words/reviews. Do you think the tweeters would perform well angled in the dash? Also, do you think powering them with an alpine PDX f4 bridged would be sufficient?

One more thing as well, I've read users complaining about the speakers making certain recordings sound jumbled. One poster over at DIYMA said "I will say there is a fault to this set, and could be a deal breaker for a lot of people. I have found so far that crappy recordings (or media formats period) sound extra crappy! I know....its kind of a Duh! statement but be warned! If you listen to crap...your gonna be really pissed if you get these. I found that shady recordings; underground, certain techno, punk, death metal, etc... tend to be a giant jumble of "stuff" via there particular chosen recording processes."

Do you believe he is speaking just about bad quality MP3's? Or about just those music genres in general? (I listen to most of those). My music is normally played through my iPod which is all in Apple Lossless.







Original thread that i quoted: Boston Acoustics SPZ60......YUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!! - DIYMA.com - Scientific Car Audio - Truth in Sound Quality (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/member-reviews-product-comparisons/99040-boston-acoustics-spz60-yummy.html)

He's referring to crappy recordings. Detailed tweeters will tell u when your recording is bad. My current tweeters tell me very quickly. I look at it as personal preference. You can get a less detailed tweet that's more forgiving for bad recordings or a detailed tweet that will make crappy recordings sound like just that. If your music is lossless, I'd go for the more detailed tweet.

As for the power, I think they'll be fine but iirc, they are 3 ohms so idk if your alpine amp is stable down to 3 ohms when bridged...so that's up to u on that one. I honestly think the 100wrms that amp does should be fine for them with a good install.

And to comment on the tweeters, I couldn't tell u to be honest how they'd perform in that location. Too many variables to consider. But a lot of ppl run stock locations and are fine with it...those SPZs are also able to run in coaxial mode too so that helps in maintaining a stock look.

wenn_du_weinst
02-15-2012, 06:20 PM
you need to realize sq guys are mostly snobs and cocky assholes, Case in point, If you listen to shity recorded music it will sound like garbage. That goes further then just a poorly compressed mp3. Ton of new music sounds like **** straight from the CD. To be honest all mp3's are garbage.
I would go with HAT unity, some deadener, some closed cell foam, and some mass loaded vinyl.
Sound Deadener Showdown - Your Source for Sound Deadening Products and Information (http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi)
Unity U61-2 6.5" 2-way Component Speaker System - 12v Electronics (http://store.12velectronics.com/unity-u61-2-6-5-2-way-component-speaker-system/)

Why So Cereal?
02-15-2012, 06:29 PM
you need to realize sq guys are mostly snobs and cocky assholes, Case in point, If you listen to shity recorded music it will sound like garbage. That goes further then just a poorly compressed mp3. Ton of new music sounds like **** straight from the CD. To be honest all mp3's are garbage.
I would go with HAT unity, some deadener, some closed cell foam, and some mass loaded vinyl.
Sound Deadener Showdown - Your Source for Sound Deadening Products and Information (http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi)
Unity U61-2 6.5" 2-way Component Speaker System - 12v Electronics (http://store.12velectronics.com/unity-u61-2-6-5-2-way-component-speaker-system/)

Great idea here too. Those are some nice comps that are a good bit cheaper than the SPZ and have won SQ comps. Then be sure to get all of those things he mentioned to properly seal those doors and everything. It'll make night and day difference in your investment.

FlexnInLa
02-15-2012, 06:35 PM
Well, I started looking into the SPZ set and they have certainly generated a lot nice words/reviews. Do you think the tweeters would perform well angled in the dash? Also, do you think powering them with an alpine PDX f4 bridged would be sufficient?

One more thing as well, I've read users complaining about the speakers making certain recordings sound jumbled. One poster over at DIYMA said "I will say there is a fault to this set, and could be a deal breaker for a lot of people. I have found so far that crappy recordings (or media formats period) sound extra crappy! I know....its kind of a Duh! statement but be warned! If you listen to crap...your gonna be really pissed if you get these. I found that shady recordings; underground, certain techno, punk, death metal, etc... tend to be a giant jumble of "stuff" via there particular chosen recording processes."

Do you believe he is speaking just about bad quality MP3's? Or about just those music genres in general? (I listen to most of those). My music is normally played through my iPod which is all in Apple Lossless.







Original thread that i quoted: Boston Acoustics SPZ60......YUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!! - DIYMA.com - Scientific Car Audio - Truth in Sound Quality (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/member-reviews-product-comparisons/99040-boston-acoustics-spz60-yummy.html)

Good speakers are generally very revealing. They will show any fault in the recording. Low bit rate MP3's, bad recordings, etc. will sound exceptionally bad on a good set of speakers.

Mdude186
02-15-2012, 07:51 PM
I appreciate your input Wenn, but I think i'm going to stick with the Bostons. For the simple fact that they are more easily obtainable and i might even be able to audition them (If i'm willing to drive a far distance) Don't know if my schedule will allow it but i will certainly try to! I was also wondering if there is a big enough difference in the pro60se vs spz to garner the price? I know the pro se uses the same tweeter as the spz so it all boils down to midrange and midbass.

On a side note, i'm really not a hard person to please, as long as its clear, doesn't hurt my ears/little to no listening fatigue and can get loud for those certain days/situations (You know the ones), then i will be happy as a clam smiling ear to ear. I definitely know what you mean about the SQ guys btw >.> (No offense to anyone here) just certain people can rub you the wrong way when talking about car audio.

Why So Cereal?
02-15-2012, 08:27 PM
I appreciate your input Wenn, but I think i'm going to stick with the Bostons. For the simple fact that they are more easily obtainable and i might even be able to audition them (If i'm willing to drive a far distance) Don't know if my schedule will allow it but i will certainly try to! I was also wondering if there is a big enough difference in the pro60se vs spz to garner the price? I know the pro se uses the same tweeter as the spz so it all boils down to midrange and midbass.

On a side note, i'm really not a hard person to please, as long as its clear, doesn't hurt my ears/little to no listening fatigue and can get loud for those certain days/situations (You know the ones), then i will be happy as a clam smiling ear to ear. I definitely know what you mean about the SQ guys btw >.> (No offense to anyone here) just certain people can rub you the wrong way when talking about car audio.

If that's the case, id just go with the Pros. They get good reviews too. A friend of mine auditioned both sets and said he didn't find the price difference justifiable unless u want that slight extra amount of midbass from the spz.

The pros will save u some cash for deadening materials as well.

Mdude186
02-16-2012, 06:21 PM
Hey! I just wanted to stop in and thank everyone for the help and advice they've given me. I feel confident I will be pleased with my purchase, also for future reference the alpine pdx f4 amp will work just fine at 3 ohms.

And out of pure curiosity I was wondering why you like the Bostons so much? (Specific qualities about them)

Why So Cereal?
02-16-2012, 07:42 PM
Hey! I just wanted to stop in and thank everyone for the help and advice they've given me. I feel confident I will be pleased with my purchase, also for future reference the alpine pdx f4 amp will work just fine at 3 ohms.

And out of pure curiosity I was wondering why you like the Bostons so much? (Specific qualities about them)
Put simply, it's bang for the buck and great customer service. I've never been disappointed by any BA product and they're relatively inexpensive IMO. Also a lot of ppl talk about they want stuff made in the US and iirc BA does just that. Also some of their GT Amps shared an italian design with high end amps yet they still didnt cost an arm and a leg. Their stuff is pretty hard to beat for the prices from speakers to amps to subs.

The_Grimy_One
02-16-2012, 07:50 PM
HAT Clarus for sure

Mdude186
02-17-2012, 04:29 PM
Well, after searching for some time i finally found a shop that has the speakers available for audition! I'll be going on Monday morning and then deadening my doors Monday afternoon. I'll post back with my thoughts on the speakers. My only worry is that the shop will try to sway me towards MTX because after looking around their site it seems they install that much more than Boston stuff. Any listening suggestions? or songs you think would be good so i can hear the speakers more fully?

zako
02-18-2012, 11:40 PM
After having heard HAT Imagine running active, I would definitely consider buying HAT Clarus. The online price is just over $500.

J31Rob
02-18-2012, 11:42 PM
That's a good little chunk for just a single set. You'll end up with a nice set for sure with that budget.