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JoshC
12-16-2011, 09:29 PM
Ive been looking for a 12 to run sealed in my single cab. Im considering a 2512 atm and did a search. A few members were talking about tuning a 2512 incorrectly and the spiders split. Would i run into trouble if i ran this sub sealed at 1.25? I can go as big as 1.75cu in my truck. thanks

The_Grimy_One
12-16-2011, 09:44 PM
I wouldnt do it, Id rather run an SA-12 sealed. Ur best bet, though is those Arc Flatlines on here. They shine in 1.3 cubes!!!

Kangaroux
12-16-2011, 09:45 PM
Also DCON or ICON, for something most comparable to a 2512 I would look at the icon

wenn_du_weinst
12-16-2011, 09:46 PM
I wouldnt do it, Id rather run an SA-12 sealed. Ur best bet, though is those Arc Flatlines on here. They shine in 1.3 cubes!!!

please do not talk about what you do not know.
The 2500 is perfect for sealed, it plays very flat and punchy. do 1.35ft sealed with double walls. I'd run it sealed over ported personally.

The_Grimy_One
12-16-2011, 09:57 PM
please do not talk about what you do not know.
The 2500 is perfect for sealed, it plays very flat and punchy. do 1.35ft sealed with double walls. I'd run it sealed over ported personally.

Please stop being a feggot. DD subs are hollow as schit, putting it in a sealed box aint gonna help that. Regardless, like I said, the Flatline will murder the 2500 in a sealed box. PERIOD.

wenn_du_weinst
12-16-2011, 10:00 PM
Please stop being a feggot. DD subs are hollow as schit, putting it in a sealed box aint gonna help that. Regardless, like I said, the Flatline will murder the 2500 in a sealed box. PERIOD.
lol experience>rumors on the internet. You have no idea what your talking about, not only does the 2500 kill the flatline using both methods of determination. It does it in real world as well. This thread is how will a 2500 work sealed, not a thread on you trying to pedal your nuthuggery

wenn_du_weinst
12-16-2011, 10:01 PM
The icon isn't really comparable it's one step under and the xcon is one step up. The closest sub that is made by the same people would be the Q fully upgraded.

Kangaroux
12-16-2011, 10:04 PM
The icon isn't really comparable it's one step under and the xcon is one step up. The closest sub that is made by the same people would be the Q fully upgraded.

2500 is rated for 750...icon is rated for 1250...I don't see how it's one step under?

wenn_du_weinst
12-16-2011, 10:05 PM
the 2500 will take 2000, when did they upgrade the icon over 750? It must be a newer model or something.

Kangaroux
12-16-2011, 10:15 PM
the 2500 will take 2000, when did they upgrade the icon over 750? It must be a newer model or something.

I'd like to see that 2500 take 2000 daily

JoshC
12-16-2011, 10:15 PM
Well im looking to get it in a trade. Offering a RF p6002 + cash. Lol got some mixed feelings here.

Thoughs flatlines are 1000rms D4's, i can only offer 600 at 2 so thats a no go. Ill be using a memphis PRD1000.1 for power 1000x1@1

wenn_du_weinst
12-16-2011, 10:20 PM
I'd like to see that 2500 take 2000 daily

soundpressure.com there are like 5 on there. I've ran 1700rms to a type r 10'' it's not hard when your power is clean

OP you will love it sealed, like I said experience with the sub > some one repeating what they heard on the internet from other people who have no clue.


it will play flat, not bottom heavy like the fi or sa's. That is why people call it hollow, it's not.

Spooney
12-16-2011, 10:20 PM
Personally I've ran an AQ SDC 2.5 12 sealed and it sounded fine. This is another sub that most people would never run sealed and is probably somewhat comparable to the 2500. I had a sealed box laying around and gave it a shot just to try something new and it sounded good. Got stupid low but obviously not as loud as a ported enclosure. I don't remember thinking it had a hollow sound to it at all.

JoshC
12-16-2011, 10:25 PM
lol ok cool, i wanted to hear from someone who actually used it sealed or comparable sealed. Hes trying to figure out how to fit DD 6.5 subs in a .4cu box into his 6x9 plates

Im not looking for the loudest ever, just make my JBL look childish lol. Also i am wanting a flat strong response 35-60hz or so

wenn_du_weinst
12-16-2011, 10:29 PM
Your not going to gain by swapping your ported box for a sealed one. You may gain slightly windows up if you have a lot of cancellation with your current box. Sealed will get a lot lower then 35 as well, sealed usually gets lower then ported enclosures do.

JoshC
12-16-2011, 10:32 PM
Yea but woofer for woofer the DD's gunna kill my jbl all over. Plus i honestly believe my jbl wants a bigger box cuz my higher bass *****.

Wont i gain some for sure? I know im going from ported to sealed but i gaining cone area and twice the motor and better quality sub

RAM_Designs
12-16-2011, 10:51 PM
Large excursion is king with a sealed box, if you're looking for clean output. For the price you'd pay for a 2512, you can get a nice woofer that'll work great in a sealed box and have ~30mm of xmax. I'd personally run a TC Sounds LMS-R or Fi Q with the high Qts option.

Bettr n' Revrse
12-16-2011, 11:03 PM
I personally wouldn't run a 2500 series sealed but have heard that they 1500's work well sealed...

JoshC
12-16-2011, 11:18 PM
Guess its back to trying to get that pair of old school punch 10s

Bettr n' Revrse
12-16-2011, 11:21 PM
Guess its back to trying to get that pair of old school punch 10s

You know what I'd do is look into 2 Dayton HO 10's and go ported

RAM_Designs
12-16-2011, 11:39 PM
I see you have a Dodge single cab...you should have a lot of room in there. I actually have plans for a ported box for 4 10's that'll fit in a '03 single cab...should be very similar to yours. The box is 51" wide x 24" tall with 8" top and 13" bottom depth. The box is 4.25ft^3 with a 30hz tuning.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/RyanM923/Sample%20Boxes/jlm_2002_txhotmailcom-D.png

JoshC
12-17-2011, 12:24 AM
Im keep the rear tray in that comes with the 06-08 models or something. I previously had a 2cu box in there and it took up too much of my leg room. My current box is 1.4cu and its the perfect size. But like i said ill go up to 1.75

JoshC
12-17-2011, 12:36 AM
Is this a decent sub? Ive seen ppl recommend the solo baric but idk if this is one of the models there meaning.

KICKER S12C D2 12" SOLO SUB CAR STEREO SUBWOOFER | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KICKER-S12C-D2-12-SOLO-SUB-CAR-STEREO-SUBWOOFER-/130613189349?pt=Car_Subwoofers_Enclosures&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e69271ae5)

Sealed again

winkychevelle
12-17-2011, 12:42 AM
i have a 2510 sitting here blown in my room.the spiders separated from the former im blaming it on the sealed box solely because when i had it in a ported box for like 6 months it held up fine on 1500w but when i put it i a sealed box .65 net after displacements on 600w the spiders where gone in 2 weeks. i called up kyle at dd andd he blamed the problem on the box as well.

the 2500 series is great for bandpass and ported but sealed id rather a ssa icon output will prolly be about the same, sealed and dd dont normally go together. except the 500, and 1000 lines

JoshC
12-17-2011, 12:44 AM
well thats what i was wondering, thanks man. U just saved me from myself lol

winkychevelle
12-17-2011, 12:44 AM
Is this a decent sub? Ive seen ppl recommend the solo baric but idk if this is one of the models there meaning.

KICKER S12C D2 12" SOLO SUB CAR STEREO SUBWOOFER | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KICKER-S12C-D2-12-SOLO-SUB-CAR-STEREO-SUBWOOFER-/130613189349?pt=Car_Subwoofers_Enclosures&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e69271ae5)

Sealed again

excellent small box driver actually considering it for my next build price is the only downside but then again i didnt click the link i just assumed it was a solo classic 12

winkychevelle
12-17-2011, 01:03 AM
i really want to make it clear that im not dooping u cause im trying to trade with the same guy if u like i can email or text you pics of my 2510 to show u the spiders separated from the cone and were i tried to reglue them. which natually caused the former to rub on the pole which is why i tore it down in the first place

Bettr n' Revrse
12-17-2011, 01:03 AM
Kyle is an awesome guy... I'm trying to work with him on a dealers license haha

winkychevelle
12-17-2011, 01:07 AM
Kyle is an awesome guy... I'm trying to work with him on a dealers license haha

yep he is a great guy and shares the same first name as me . its kinda awkward Kyle talking to Kyle on the phone lol but he has help me many of times with everything from initial ordering to final setup and suggestions.

JoshC
12-17-2011, 01:10 AM
Well i didnt make that connection so if u were good job lol i just did a search and found ppl have problems with spiders tearing thus this thread was made.

That is the solo classic 12, but there referbs on ebay for only 140shipped a pop. I saw other listing of them for like 270, i was also wondering if a type-r 12 would be better or worse in a small sealed box then the classic

winkychevelle
12-17-2011, 01:14 AM
Well i didnt make that connection so if u were good job lol i just did a search and found ppl have problems with spiders tearing thus this thread was made.

That is the solo classic 12, but there referbs on ebay for only 140shipped a pop. I saw other listing of them for like 270, i was also wondering if a type-r 12 would be better or worse in a small sealed box then the classic

id pick up that kicker first but look at that mach5 in the classifieds much much better sub if it isnt blow

JoshC
12-17-2011, 01:21 AM
id pick up that kicker first but look at that mach5 in the classifieds much much better sub if it isnt blow

its a D4 and at 2ohms i only have 600watts

winkychevelle
12-17-2011, 01:27 AM
its a D4 and at 2ohms i only have 600watts

thats plenty of power to smoke the jbl. id just upgrade the amp later this sub is only 800rms and that isnt a required amount just max recommended daily amount.ive seen them take 1200 but it isnt necessary

kushy_dreams
12-17-2011, 05:52 AM
I had a Kicker Solo Classic 12 d2 in 1.2 sealed with a layer of fiberglass resin inside hooked up to a Crunch p1500.1 @ 1 ohm. It lasted about 6months but that was back before I knew bass boost was bad and was a little generous with the gain setting. It had decent sq and got down pretty low. The resin inside helped make the box super rigid. I paid 170 for it from sonicelectronix right when they came out. They raised the prices on them so I would say its not worth it unless you can get one for under $150. If you are willing to spend a little more $, the Boston SPG 555 is great in sealed boxes and gets pretty loud too.

huricaine
12-25-2011, 09:49 PM
DD subs use relatively short coils, it may distort with a bit of power sealed. You can put it in a small sealed enclosure but that dosn't mean it's going to sound great(however, the 2500 honestly don't have as low a Q as you would expect[you will find if u test them]). Using a loaded enclosure for them is good for power handling and beeing easy on them so them excursion wise. Ported enclosures really aren't that different from sealed anyway as ported enclosures act sealed aswell in the upper range until they get down to the range of loading.

Buck
12-25-2011, 09:57 PM
Don't run the 2512 sealed. There are many other woofers that will work better.