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NoLoud4U
12-07-2011, 07:05 PM
My box in the Avi.. 2 4 inch areos. TommyK said something about gaining output by using 6 inch areos. I cant do that with 2 12s and still keep my low tuning but I think I could with a single 15. Would it be good for any gain? I might even be able to go 8 inch ports. I could fire them to the side like a SUV. So with 5 cubes what do you guys think? DC is revamping the XL next year and that will be the sub of choice. Or a BLT N2.

NoLoud4U
12-07-2011, 07:10 PM
Feel free to chime in Rabbit.. Ill be getting the box from you. Can you get me over a 145 at the headrest while still being musical

CAT MAN
12-07-2011, 07:23 PM
1 15 should be able to keep up a 145 on the right power. but 2 12s have more cone area . tommy was probably thinking about adding port area when he mentioned that.

little more explainin never hurts brah :fyi:

NoLoud4U
12-07-2011, 07:25 PM
1 15 should be able to keep up a 145 on the right power. but 2 12s have more cone area . tommy was probably thinking about adding port area when he mentioned that.

little more explainin never hurts brah :fyi:

thats what i said when he said go to 6 inch areos.. Never hurts to read something brah

JeepGuy
12-07-2011, 07:28 PM
thats what i said when he said go to 6 inch areos.. Never hurts to read something brah

I think he meant what amp you will be using??
:)

mast240
12-07-2011, 07:30 PM
what tuning are you trying to keep with the 6" aero's? with the right amount of power on 5 cubes, the XL could easily hit 145.... side firing is a tricky buisness when it comes to the meter, but if dustin is designing the box for you, i dont see there being a problem there

NoLoud4U
12-07-2011, 07:39 PM
what tuning are you trying to keep with the 6" aero's? with the right amount of power on 5 cubes, the XL could easily hit 145.... side firing is a tricky buisness when it comes to the meter, but if dustin is designing the box for you, i dont see there being a problem there

Right now.. around 30.. 2500 rms on tap.

---------- Post added at 06:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:39 PM ----------

I know it could be higher but I like that tune and it does well in park and pound

mast240
12-07-2011, 07:44 PM
with that low of a tune, i dont have to tell you that it will be more difficult than with a 50hz burp box, but that goes without saying... now, is it possible at 30? easily. can every dude out there do it... no. but like i said, with dustin designing your box, i dont forsee any problems... you'll have the power, sub, and box required... just gotta put in the work. from there, it might just take a few tweaks here and there to get 145+, but thats with any new set up.

I'm the same way with my boxes too tho, got my clamshell tuned to mid 30's... even tho if i tuned it in the 50hz, i could easily be above 160... numbers aint everything.

NoLoud4U
12-07-2011, 07:46 PM
No they are not.. Even more so when I spend 2 hours a day in my car on the interstate

CAT MAN
12-07-2011, 07:46 PM
yeah im going from 40 to 34 just to get my daily punding back. then use th 40 hz for showws

NoLoud4U
12-07-2011, 07:54 PM
Im not going to change out boxes.. In my hatch the box is like a swiss army knife. Amp and battery rack

CAT MAN
12-07-2011, 07:56 PM
Im not going to change out boxes.. In my hatch the box is like a swiss army knife. Amp and battery rack

lol yeah i hear ya there. thats why my trunk is never tied down. im always testing or breaking something lmao

IonRL205
12-07-2011, 08:02 PM
So are you saying you're trying to keep the low tuning with the 15? If so I don't see you getting louder than with your two 12s.

VWBobby
12-08-2011, 11:12 AM
^^^ This.... Part of the way to get higher SPL numbers is by tuning your box closer to the tone you are trying to hit with. Low tuning and low tones take lots of power and cone area to make high numbers. Higher tuning and higher tones take less power and cone area, in general...

With 2500RMS and 2 12's.....you should easily be doing in the mid 140's by now. I have about 1000 going to my 2 old *** PG subs and I'm in the low 140's and tuned to 31hz.

Phoenix Risen
12-08-2011, 11:28 AM
it looks like you may have the space to change ports out as well, with aeros that could be an easy option, tune it high for burps then back down for daily/p&p

JerryEllis
12-08-2011, 11:30 AM
^^^ This.... Part of the way to get higher SPL numbers is by tuning your box closer to the tone you are trying to hit with. Low tuning and low tones take lots of power and cone area to make high numbers. Higher tuning and higher tones take less power and cone area, in general...

With 2500RMS and 2 12's.....you should easily be doing in the mid 140's by now. I have about 1000 going to my 2 old *** PG subs and I'm in the low 140's and tuned to 31hz.

umm i wouldn't say you have to have alot of cone area and alot of power in order to hit good numbers with low tuneing...

mast240
12-08-2011, 11:51 AM
with the right enclosure (which he already stated he would be getting from rabbit)... he has plenty of power and sub to hit 145. IDK what you guys are talking about... cone area really isn't everything. your enclosure plays just as much a part of it.

JerryEllis
12-08-2011, 12:09 PM
with the right enclosure (which he already stated he would be getting from rabbit)... he has plenty of power and sub to hit 145. IDK what you guys are talking about... cone area really isn't everything. your enclosure plays just as much a part of it.

exactly, this is what i was getting at

VWBobby
12-09-2011, 11:28 AM
It really depends on the vehicle too. If you have a small cab, like a pickup or CRX then No you don't need a lot of cone area or power (by today's standards) to hit a 145 in the low 30's.
I dare you to find a larger vehicle like a SUV or van running just one 15" sub and hitting a 145 in the low 30's on 2.5Kw....... ;)

Davecubs14
12-10-2011, 01:24 PM
I hit a 145.2 with the set up in my sig. My box is 4.5 tuned ~38. It's great for my daily set up.

One idea you could do is see if rabbit could design a box with aeros that you could plug for daily and unplug for burping. If that makes sense! Lol.

Boomsday
12-10-2011, 01:32 PM
I hit a 145.2 with the set up in my sig. My box is 4.5 tuned ~38. It's great for my daily set up.

One idea you could do is see if rabbit could design a box with aeros that you could plug for daily and unplug for burping. If that makes sense! Lol.

In an suv ;)

JerryEllis
12-10-2011, 01:40 PM
It really depends on the vehicle too. If you have a small cab, like a pickup or CRX then No you don't need a lot of cone area or power (by today's standards) to hit a 145 in the low 30's.
I dare you to find a larger vehicle like a SUV or van running just one 15" sub and hitting a 145 in the low 30's on 2.5Kw....... ;)

one of my team mates had a explore with two 12 inch hd's pulling a 47-48 average on music. i know that that is more cone area than a 15 but still that is an average over 30 seconds on music

chadwick_13
12-10-2011, 02:07 PM
fi btl n2 !!

kushy_dreams
12-10-2011, 02:28 PM
OP- don't carpet your next box and use as much fiberglass resin as you can. You want that box to be as rigid as possible. A an experienced guy at the last MECA event I went to said he gained 2db just from removing the carpet on his box.