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psychoacoustics
12-02-2011, 04:22 PM
1. Product: T3 audio TSNS

this is a very good woofer not an all out spl monster i built them to play music and they do it with authority

they sound great at low power and blend at 80 hz with my mids like its one speaker

however if you wanted this could break **** like your roof or windshield with enough power they are scarrrrrry



2. Specs: 12" TI basket
silver top trf motors
dual 1.6 ohm dcr coils with a 2.7" ww so they will move really far
2 linear "pink" spiders per woofer with a spacer inbetween ( plenty of spider for up to about 6k a woofer this isnt a stiff black 8")
dual leads per coil
long direct leads
cf dust cap
cf impregnated paper cones
stitched surrounds
tall roll surround
rubber gasket on basket



3. Description/Condition:
used in my daily driver for about 4 months on 1800watts per coil

the one dust cap has a small bit of ca glue showing on the cone i was very sparing when gluing them down and this one loosened up after a month or so

only selling due to not needing such a BEASTLY woofer in a daily driven vechicle they weigh around 70 lbs each and its not necessary as ill never compete or add more power to my truck


these 2 12s are easily capable of pulling a hair trick from very little power in a small box

i have ts parameters from my woofer tester PRO
Re = 1.1185 ohms
Fs = 35.6791 Hz
Zmax = 15.6072 ohms
Qes = 0.3932
Qms = 5.0938
Qts = 0.3651
Le = 0.4872 mH (at 1 kHz)
Diam = 304.8000 mm ( 12.0000 in )
Sd =72965.8753 mm^2(113.0973 in^2)
Vas = 59.9350 L ( 2.1166 ft^3)
BL = 12.6534 N/A
Mms = 251.0940 g
Cms = 79.2458 uM/N
Kms =12618.9629 N/M
Rms = 11.0506 R mechanical
Efficiency = 0.6504 %
Sensitivity= 90.1501 dB @1W/1m
Sensitivity= 98.6946 dB @2.83Vrms/1m

and ill test them again to get broken in specs if you want them

currently they are in a 5 cube box with 2 6" aeros and it slams

i can and will if you want design a box to fit your tastes and spece requirements for free if you buy the woofers


the coils are perfect and they will be a hell of a low end monster



4. Price: :
1100 shipped anywhere in the us for the pair

not willing to split them up just yet unless i got a buyer for both maybe down the road i will





5. Pictures:


http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110605_130200.jpg




http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110605_130705.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110605_130152.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110605_165805.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110605_165421.jpg



mounted in the box
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/06-29-2011182037.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/06-29-2011182031.jpg


motion shots from the t/s testing.... the woofer tester pro measures them at excursion
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110611_144957.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110611_144959.jpg



pictures and videos of the build and the box they are in here:

Car Audio Classifieds

and here:
tacoma pictures by psychoacoustics - Photobucket

im an absolute nut about stuff and they are in great shape i did however put a small slit in one surround but its been repaired on the back of the surround and is not visible from the front ( its hard to mound a 70 lb woofer vertically by yourself)




i will package them in a wooden crate and insure them for 500 each and ship by UPS

they will come to you safely i can assure you

Kangaroux
12-02-2011, 04:26 PM
Links don't work. And are these TSNS recones on trf motors? I'm confused

psychoacoustics
12-02-2011, 04:48 PM
yes its a t3 recone on a trf ( the first tsns were of this or a ssxxx variety )


ill fix the links thanks

only lets me post 10 so here are 3 more

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110605_131712.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110605_150600.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/psychoacoustics/tacoma/IMG_20110605_121748.jpg

CerwinVega_Fan
12-02-2011, 05:09 PM
Trades please

The_Grimy_One
12-02-2011, 06:37 PM
Pretty!

mylows10
12-02-2011, 06:52 PM
NASTY !!!!!!:inlove:

theslamologist
12-04-2011, 01:10 AM
Bl of 12? Or 21?

psychoacoustics
12-04-2011, 11:58 PM
bl is 12 thats in the measurement of n/a or newtons per amp

im sure your expecting to see the bl of t/ft or testa per foot where as it would be a BL of 41.98

these are the specs that the Woofertester PRO outputs

woofertester.com (http://www.woofertester.com/wtproproduct.htm)

psychoacoustics
12-05-2011, 12:01 AM
Trades please


what ya got ?

i got a small list in my sig
also amps over 3k broken or working

xmakeafistx
12-10-2011, 10:40 PM
sweet jesus I wish this was mine.

HACKMUNCH
12-11-2011, 05:33 PM
where did you get the coil from? i have some but 2.3" wind heigth.

psychoacoustics
12-13-2011, 07:32 AM
like it says in the first post these are are TSNS woofers.....so the coil is from T3

the ww is 76mm or 3" huge difference in coils these are very large

psychoacoustics
01-02-2012, 06:02 PM
CES bump gotta sell them for the show make some offers and lets get them sold

theslamologist
01-02-2012, 06:57 PM
trade for first born child, left testicle, and my car? haha but seriously... left testicle?

psychoacoustics
01-03-2012, 01:10 PM
thats gross
if your serious thiugh im sure there is a shady place in the city somewhere that will buy a kidney or something pretty cheap

theslamologist
01-05-2012, 07:21 PM
ha definitely wasnt serious, just some nice woofers ya got there! im only 18 i dont have a first born child, and apparently my girlfriend has more ownership of my nuggets than i do anyway, so glws :rotflol:

T.I.K.
01-05-2012, 07:29 PM
Since this is a T3 recone, does it also share the softpart problems most T3's have?

psychoacoustics
01-05-2012, 09:20 PM
well most t3s dont have problems at least none of the ones ive used ,sold or seen in use they break glass before they had failures but if your refering to t he few threads ive seen on here id say thats pretty bad way to judge a woofer


ive put 3k to each one with no problems
my 15s in my crx took an opti 12k with not a single issue for 2 years had to sell the car cuz the metal was so ripped up
the 18s in my buddys car were on 4 sampsons each before i picked them up and they were only reconed to change impedance.

ive used a lot seen more but the tsns is one hell of a woofer

so were you just dumping my thread or are you curious about buying them ?

Colbyjack
01-05-2012, 11:54 PM
Pm'd you.

ddfan24
01-06-2012, 02:01 AM
trade one for dd 9512g d2 couple months old ????

psychoacoustics
01-07-2012, 09:40 PM
no thanks for the trade i want to sell both not trade i have so many big woofers i cant stand it

ddfan24
01-07-2012, 10:24 PM
Lucky !!! :)

psychoacoustics
01-17-2012, 11:23 AM
You can be too!

Phoenix Risen
01-17-2012, 12:02 PM
i have to say i really would love to pick one of these up. if you ever decide to split them up let me know. ive been debating on turning my ssxxx into a 12 for a while.

psychoacoustics
01-17-2012, 01:51 PM
Not splitting them up unless I have 2 buyers

psychoacoustics
01-21-2012, 12:19 PM
bump guys

nutnbutcustm
01-31-2012, 05:05 PM
Still have these?

psychoacoustics
01-31-2012, 09:43 PM
yep they are here till the thread is marked sold

06goat
01-31-2012, 09:51 PM
Clean up your workbench. Other than that **** moofers and glws. Wish I was focusing on being loud

psychoacoustics
01-31-2012, 10:31 PM
Clean up your workbench. Other than that **** moofers and glws. Wish I was focusing on being loud


LOL I NEED ALL THAT STUFF

ca glue
dremel
amp
12vdc power supply
woofertester
o scope x2
nitrile gloves
strippers
crimpers
solder
iron
vice
extra cone and coil pack
a drink cuz im thirsty !
cordles drills
goop
amp clamp
heat shrink

what u see that i dont need?:nerd:

06goat
01-31-2012, 11:01 PM
LOL I NEED ALL THAT STUFF

ca glue
dremel
amp
12vdc power supply
woofertester
o scope x2
nitrile gloves
strippers
crimpers
solder
iron
vice
extra cone and coil pack
a drink cuz im thirsty !
cordles drills
goop
amp clamp
heat shrink

what u see that i dont need?:nerd:

Haha I was gonna say the drink but then saw you posted it. Is that a container of Tapmagic I see? Lol the fuq u need that for?

psychoacoustics
01-31-2012, 11:12 PM
the metal can?

no thats rubber recone glue

although i do chase all my motors out with a tap to make sure the threads are good before i build them even if they are just ripped apart some people glue the screws in actually i just broke a screw in a motor tonight trying to get it out when someone ca glued it in GRRRRR

06goat
01-31-2012, 11:14 PM
the metal can?

no thats rubber recone glue

although i do chase all my motors out with a tap to make sure the threads are good before i build them even if they are just ripped apart some people glue the screws in actually i just broke a screw in a motor tonight trying to get it out when someone ca glued it in GRRRRR

Yeah haha Loctite is a lot cheaper anyways

des343
01-31-2012, 11:21 PM
christ man!!! awesome looking

serious question how and where did u go to learn to build woofers...i have been looking for good tech schools so i can really get my hands into the audio feild and learn and do all the stuff people on here do im so jealous!!

oh and i have 3000 watt audiopipe amps, rockford t2000, 12 inch rockford HX2 power series subs (blown)

psychoacoustics
01-31-2012, 11:24 PM
lol there are no schools to learn this stuff .......in the lanes at shows and maybe, in a shop, if they know anything most dont i have been at this for a long time my first recones looked like ***

des343
01-31-2012, 11:30 PM
lol there are no schools to learn this stuff .......in the lanes at shows and maybe, in a shop, if they know anything most dont i have been at this for a long time my first recones looked like ***

yes i know there are schools the teach this stuff...you have to get certifed in a lot of things even to order parts i know people that do this but not car audio (this might not be the ONLY way) just saying i know there are actual places to get training in this field.

but i dont have ties to a shop like that and truthfully michigan is the moron state no one knows anything about anything thus you get a bunch of morons to learn from....

all local shops are just downright pathetic.

psychoacoustics
02-01-2012, 11:11 AM
yes i know there are schools the teach this stuff...you have to get certifed in a lot of things even to order parts i know people that do this but not car audio (this might not be the ONLY way) just saying i know there are actual places to get training in this field.

but i dont have ties to a shop like that and truthfully michigan is the moron state no one knows anything about anything thus you get a bunch of morons to learn from....

all local shops are just downright pathetic.


Care to share what you've found?

des343
02-01-2012, 06:10 PM
Care to share what you've found?

there are a few tech schools...the most popular that always pops up is in New jersey actually called Installerinstitue or something and they teach custom fabrication and speaker work and such

i in my searches came accross other stuff as well but this was the most note worthy i guess

psychoacoustics
02-01-2012, 06:18 PM
oh installer schools i thought you found something else along the line of loudspeaker design as far as i know there is no such schooling anywhere in the world most speaker engineering is a branch of another kind of engineering and acoustics mixed up maybe something else, or its just a guy that really likes speakers who designs it himself

psychoacoustics
02-05-2012, 10:42 PM
superbowl bump

psychoacoustics
02-22-2012, 10:18 PM
bump for the 2 biggest 12s on ca.com

psychoacoustics
03-06-2012, 10:30 PM
so sad but they shipped out today :crying: