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boddy
11-22-2011, 03:40 PM
I'm going to be running active with some 165V30's and a FI Q, obviously i need something with 3 preouts and active crossovers but I'm not sure what to get. I would prefer it to be Alpine but that's just me. As long as it accepts USB, displays the track name, accepts steering wheel controls and has good SQ I'm happy. I was looking at the Alpine 117ri but that has all the ipod stuff which i have no interest in so i don't want to be paying for something that i aren't going to use, same with bluetooth as it degrades the SQ in my opinion.

Anyone help me out?

kramer_212
11-22-2011, 04:05 PM
Pioneer dex-p99rs

boddy
11-22-2011, 04:21 PM
Divide that price by 5

The_Grimy_One
11-22-2011, 04:35 PM
Alpine 9887 is the clear winner.

boddy
11-22-2011, 07:20 PM
Just had a look at this Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. (http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/compare/av-head-units-head-units/cda-117,cda-9887) and it does't say anything about the 9887 being USB compatible but then apparently the 9887 had more "sound tuning" options?

bread0710
11-22-2011, 07:22 PM
Just had a look at this Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. (http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/compare/av-head-units-head-units/cda-117,cda-9887) and it does't say anything about the 9887 being USB compatible but then apparently the 9887 had more "sound tuning" options?

the 9887 has usb

whitedragon551
11-22-2011, 07:34 PM
the 9887 has usb

No it doesnt.

Eclipse CD7100 has 3 way active, great SQ, and USB.

boddy
11-22-2011, 07:34 PM
Ok thanks reckon i should go for the 9887 over the 117ri then? And what steering wheel control adapter would i need for it?

whitedragon551
11-22-2011, 07:35 PM
Ok thanks reckon i should go for the 9887 over the 117ri then? And what steering wheel control adapter would i need for it?

I have a 9887 and love it, but it doesnt have USB.

boddy
11-22-2011, 07:38 PM
I would prefer USB to be honest, don't want to be burning CD's all the time and i don't like ipods. I might just go with the 117ri if the crossovers and time alignment or whatever it is called is good.

bread0710
11-22-2011, 07:39 PM
No it doesnt.

Eclipse CD7100 has 3 way active, great SQ, and USB.

really funny b/c i hook my ipod up to it lol

whitedragon551
11-22-2011, 07:40 PM
really funny b/c i hook my ipod up to it lol

Show me where the USB adapter is on the back of this 9887:

http://www.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300//products/20090/500/x500CDA9887-b.jpeg

bread0710
11-22-2011, 07:42 PM
you have to buy the cord for the ipod.... the blue plug comming out of the back is what it plus into

boddy
11-22-2011, 07:43 PM
I'm not after ipod connectivity, just USB

bread0710
11-22-2011, 07:43 PM
Alpine KCE-422i (kce422i) Charge and Control an iPod directly (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6458_Alpine-KCE-422i.html)

The_Grimy_One
11-22-2011, 07:43 PM
Show me where the USB adapter is on the back of this 9887:

http://www.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300//products/20090/500/x500CDA9887-b.jpeg

The 9887 is for sure iPod compatible. Lol.

whitedragon551
11-22-2011, 07:43 PM
you have to buy the cord for the ipod.... the blue plug comming out of the back is what it plus into

Yup and thats not USB. Thats Alpines High speed connection for iPod. There is no USB expandability on the 9887.

bread0710
11-22-2011, 07:44 PM
I'm not after ipod connectivity, just USB

o i got ya then ur right my bad

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Yup and thats not USB. Thats Alpines High speed connection for iPod. There is no USB expandability on the 9887.

i thought u meant you couldnt hook an ipod up at all my bad

whitedragon551
11-22-2011, 07:44 PM
Alpine KCE-422i (kce422i) Charge and Control an iPod directly (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6458_Alpine-KCE-422i.html)

Still not USB. Try again.

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o i got ya then ur right my bad

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i thought u meant you couldnt hook an ipod up at all my bad

USB =/= iPod

bread0710
11-22-2011, 07:46 PM
USB =/= iPod[/QUOTE]


your right lol

boddy
11-22-2011, 07:46 PM
How is the crossovers on the 117ri? Tempted by that as i can have USB connectivity and a standard aux connection if i wanted.

whitedragon551
11-22-2011, 07:47 PM
How is the crossovers on the 117ri? Tempted by that as i can have USB connectivity and a standard aux connection if i wanted.

Should be exactly the same as the 9887. Not sure if you need the Imprint kit though with it. With the 9887 you dont need the Imprint kit to get the full crossover control, but on the 9886 you do.

bread0710
11-22-2011, 07:49 PM
you need imprint with the 117

bread0710
11-22-2011, 07:50 PM
Alpine CDA-117 vs. CDA-9887 - DIYMA.com - Scientific Car Audio - Truth in Sound Quality (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/system-design-help-me-choose-equipment-my-car/93131-alpine-cda-117-vs-cda-9887-a.html)

boddy
11-22-2011, 07:52 PM
Hmmmmmm it a tough one, is all the imprint technology already on the 9887? I might have to just buy a cheap shuffle and put up with itunes lol

Ninesvnsicks
11-22-2011, 08:01 PM
What about a Kenwood kdc-x895 or x995?

dumple
11-22-2011, 08:02 PM
Alpine KCA-620M (kca620m) Add a USB port to your compatible (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_8266_Alpine-KCA-620M.html) 9887 usb

boddy
11-22-2011, 08:02 PM
I just read that the h100 does your crossover points for you, isn't that a bit stupid? Surely you must be able to set them yourself

bread0710
11-22-2011, 08:06 PM
I just read that the h100 does your crossover points for you, isn't that a bit stupid? Surely you must be able to set them yourself

i was looking at both myself and i went with the 9887 just b/c it has the active network built in

dumple
11-22-2011, 08:07 PM
You can on the 9887 but the auto thing is nice since it.finds all the peaks.and what not in your vehicle with just some movement of the microphone

wenn_du_weinst
11-22-2011, 08:07 PM
imprint sets your xover points for you and has been known to blow tweeters.

boddy
11-23-2011, 02:05 PM
So to run active on the 117 you need the h100 and you can run active on the 9887 out of the box? But to run active on the 117 and h100 you can only use imprint, right? But using imprint sounds allot better than just using normal crossovers?

nateberrier
11-23-2011, 02:15 PM
I have heard that the imprint tune is underwhelming. I would probably look at eclipse or a high end pioneer. There is not a whole lot to choose from for active decks. You could get a deck that is not active and run a processor

boddy
11-23-2011, 06:52 PM
Just been looking at the Kenwood KDC-x995 how would one of them be? And they don't seem to sell them in the UK so what would a reasonable price for one be?

whitedragon551
11-23-2011, 07:01 PM
imprint sets your xover points for you and has been known to blow tweeters.


I have heard that the imprint tune is underwhelming. I would probably look at eclipse or a high end pioneer. There is not a whole lot to choose from for active decks. You could get a deck that is not active and run a processor

Not if you use the mic with TrueRTA. You can also use the Imprint to find your dips and peaks and tune and re-measure on your own. Most recommend using the the Imprint for a baseline, tuning from it, running it again, and tuning again on your own.

wenn_du_weinst
11-23-2011, 07:14 PM
Not if you use the mic with TrueRTA. You can also use the Imprint to find your dips and peaks and tune and re-measure on your own. Most recommend using the the Imprint for a baseline, tuning from it, running it again, and tuning again on your own.
yes even then, it is different then the 9887 it will **** your tweeters.

SPLluminator
11-23-2011, 07:19 PM
you need imprint with the 117

To run active yes, but it has a built in USB connection and I personally am very happy with mine. Time correction works very well and I have yet to install my imprint as of now but ive got it laying around somewhere. As soon as I get my IA 6.4 ill be going active with some Vifa Neo tweets and some ID Oem's. Cant wait to see how this all sounds!

boddy
11-24-2011, 02:49 PM
How is the Kenwood KDC-X995?

ejschultz
11-24-2011, 03:01 PM
It doesn't allow you to run active. With the exception of a P99RS, I don't think there are any HUs currently in production that allow for active setups on their own. The 9887 is a solid choice, 800/880PRS, 9855, 9853, 9835, and the 9833 are all also good options. None of them will give you USB without any adapters and the latter 4 won't allow it at all. They should all be relatively affordable used on here. You can also look for the Eclipse 7100 or 7200MKII. The 7200MKII is a pretty incredible HU.

ejschultz
11-24-2011, 03:13 PM
There has also been an Alpine 9965 floating around on eBay for $600. I'd drop the cash on it if I had it. I always wanted one of those...

Shinju
11-24-2011, 03:19 PM
I have a mint 9855 that I have currently installed that I would let go of since I want to use my 7998 this year for IASCA SQ. The 9855 does not have usb but it does have AI-net so you can hook an Ipod up.

Bettr n' Revrse
11-24-2011, 03:28 PM
Hahaha **** guys listen to what he is saying... USB not IPod!!!

boddy
11-24-2011, 07:55 PM
It doesn't allow you to run active. With the exception of a P99RS, I don't think there are any HUs currently in production that allow for active setups on their own. The 9887 is a solid choice, 800/880PRS, 9855, 9853, 9835, and the 9833 are all also good options. None of them will give you USB without any adapters and the latter 4 won't allow it at all. They should all be relatively affordable used on here. You can also look for the Eclipse 7100 or 7200MKII. The 7200MKII is a pretty incredible HU.

The kenwood doesn't allow you to run active?


I have a mint 9855 that I have currently installed that I would let go of since I want to use my 7998 this year for IASCA SQ. The 9855 does not have usb but it does have AI-net so you can hook an Ipod up.

What is the 9855 like? Can you run active without no extra adapters, and what inputs does it have?

Shinju
11-24-2011, 08:17 PM
I am running it 2 way + sub active.right now, it can run 3 wayas it sits with out needing any external processor. 5 band parametric eq 7 band graphic eq 6 channel time alignment. The only input is the ai-net, 4 volt front, rear and sub pre amp outputs.

ejschultz
11-24-2011, 08:23 PM
The Kenwood has crossover control but only for front/rear/sub, not low/mid/high. The 9855 is exactly as described in the above post.

boddy
11-24-2011, 08:27 PM
How about the 9886 i just looked and that has a USB input but can you put active out of the box?

Shinju
11-24-2011, 08:30 PM
9886 is only active able with imprint, it only has a high pass crossover and a subwoofer curve filter. Its a basic entry level deck I ran one.for a couple of years.

boddy
11-24-2011, 08:35 PM
I'm just going to have to sod it and go with the 9887, being active out of the box is alot more important than the inputs to be fair. Just one question, when the ipod is connected to it can you still scroll through the ipod as i doubt you will be able to actually search for a song on the headunit.

whitedragon551
11-24-2011, 08:36 PM
I'm just going to have to sod it and go with the 9887, being active out of the box is alot more important than the inputs to be fair. Just one question, when the ipod is connected to it can you still scroll through the ipod as i doubt you will be able to actually search for a song on the headunit.

You can search the iPod from the headunit. Everything from randomize, to picking a playlist, artist, what ever. All can be done through the headunit.

boddy
11-24-2011, 08:41 PM
Irl go with the 9887 then, does it come with the ipod cable or do you have the buy it separate?

ejschultz
11-24-2011, 08:42 PM
Every time you post, I watch your gif in your sig for a good 1 or 2 minutes.

whitedragon551
11-24-2011, 08:48 PM
Irl go with the 9887 then, does it come with the ipod cable or do you have the buy it separate?

Separate.

KCE-422i SPEED IPHONE IPOD CABLE ADAPTER FOR ALPINE | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KCE-422i-SPEED-IPHONE-IPOD-CABLE-ADAPTER-ALPINE-/120701757548?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1a62a86c)

Bettr n' Revrse
11-24-2011, 09:06 PM
I'm looking for something to replace my 9855... Ready to try something new

ejschultz
11-24-2011, 09:10 PM
I'm not going to replace my 9855 until it dies... unless I can somehow come up with a killer deal on a 9965 that I cannot resist. I bought mine in 2005 and it's going 3 vehicles and 6, going on 7, years strong. :D

Bettr n' Revrse
11-24-2011, 09:14 PM
I have 2 in my vehicles... One I may have to send in for blown outs thou... I have been looking for a 9965 and started a thread here about the differences with the 2 but haven't gotten any replies...

ejschultz
11-24-2011, 10:49 PM
The 9965 has the color Bio-Lite display, a 24 bit Burr Brown DAC, DVD capabilities, built in HD radio, and it's a dead head. Rumor has it that the EQ has 9 bands when it's in 3 way network mode too. I have never had anyone verify that and Crutchfield doesn't specify anything other than what Bass Engine Pro offers.

smgreen20
11-25-2011, 01:28 AM
Dude is pretty set on Alpine I guess. He did state pref Alpine, but doesn't have to be.

IMO, the end all be all for what you're after has already been mentioned, the Eclipse 7100/7200.

dumple
11-25-2011, 01:40 AM
you can do usb on the 9887

Alpine KCA-620M (kca620m) Add a USB port to your compatible (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_8266_Alpine-KCA-620M.html)

Bettr n' Revrse
11-25-2011, 02:00 AM
The 9965 has the color Bio-Lite display, a 24 bit Burr Brown DAC, DVD capabilities, built in HD radio, and it's a dead head. Rumor has it that the EQ has 9 bands when it's in 3 way network mode too. I have never had anyone verify that and Crutchfield doesn't specify anything other than what Bass Engine Pro offers.

Hahaha

boddy
11-25-2011, 12:11 PM
Can i use this Alpine*-*AUX in Cables*-*KCA-235B (http://www.alpine-electronics.co.uk/products/product-singleview/aux-in-cables/kca-235b.html) aswell as the ipod connector?

dumple
11-25-2011, 12:19 PM
Can i use this Alpine*-*AUX in Cables*-*KCA-235B (http://www.alpine-electronics.co.uk/products/product-singleview/aux-in-cables/kca-235b.html) aswell as the ipod connector?

not sure on that, put possibly i know that the bluetooth module has an ipod connection built in thats how im running my 9887

boddy
11-25-2011, 02:54 PM
So you would run your ipod through the bluetooth adapter then use this Alpine KCE-236B Aux Cable (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/alpine-kce-236b-aux-cable.html) ?

TheUnderFighter
11-25-2011, 08:09 PM
Dude is pretty set on Alpine I guess. He did state pref Alpine, but doesn't have to be.

IMO, the end all be all for what you're after has already been mentioned, the Eclipse 7100/7200.

This. Eclipse 7200mkii would be beast. I can't stand how alpine charges out the *** for every proprietary add on.