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yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 09:28 PM
I'm making a ported box, and wondering what would sound better, tuned to 32hz or 30hz? Im new to all this tuning; im clueless with everything about it. What are your boxes tuned to and how do they sound? Btw, the sub is a fi q 12.

Kangaroux
05-24-2011, 09:30 PM
both tuning will sound good just depends what you like. though you wont hear much difference between 32 and 30. mine is tuned to 33 and sounds great

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 09:31 PM
Mid 30s for a bit of everything. Most hip hop is recorded in the high 30s low 40s
Most rock is low 30s

jtomsic
05-24-2011, 09:32 PM
33 here

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 09:33 PM
I lsten to mostly rap, but also everything? So 30 should be fine then, good quality and still loud?

Kangaroux
05-24-2011, 09:34 PM
yeah youll be fine.

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 09:35 PM
Put it this way, Lil waynes stuff is low 40s. IMO 30 is to low for daily hip hop.

CHEMMINS
05-24-2011, 09:35 PM
What sub do you have? You should build the box to suit the sub and the music ya listen to.

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 09:37 PM
What sub do you have? You should build the box to suit the sub and the music ya listen to.
He has a Q. its in his opening thread

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 09:39 PM
So wHat kind of music is in the 30 range? Thanks for everyones help btw.

A fi q 12

Kangaroux
05-24-2011, 09:40 PM
So wHat kinf od music is in the 30 range? Thanks for everyones help btw.

A fi q 12

there is plenty of hiphop/rap thats in the 30's and even 20's. just depends what you listen to. most of the stuff i listen to is in the 30's and high 20's.

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 09:42 PM
Also, i love listening to music and hearing guitar strings and chords.

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 09:42 PM
low 30s is kickdrum.

There are a few hip hop songs that get low but its always the same artist. Jeezy or Zoe.

Kangaroux
05-24-2011, 09:43 PM
low 30s is kickdrum.

There are a few hip hop songs that get low but its always the same artist. Jeezy or Zoe.

some dubstep is. especially if you listen to chopped and screwed

CHEMMINS
05-24-2011, 09:45 PM
With the q, you can play 25 and up easily......but where is your midbass playing down to? If you tune to 30, you won't play up to 80.

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 09:46 PM
some dubstep is. especially if you listen to chopped and screwed

There was a thread on SMD that had a bunch of tracks and the freq they where recorded in but I cant find it.

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 09:53 PM
At the mOment, i have the stock syatem in my car. Its a premiuim system with a sub, 360 watt. Other than that, i have no idea about the specs as in where the midbass is at. Ill probly upgrqde speakers later on tho

CHEMMINS
05-24-2011, 09:55 PM
If you tune your sub to 30 hz, I have a real good feeling you will be missing from 60/70 hz to about 150 hz.

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Or you could retain the factory sub, which probably will cover the gap between your mids and added 12".

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 09:56 PM
If you tune your sub to 30 hz, I have a real good feeling you will be missing from 60/70 hz to about 150 hz.

---------- Post added at 07:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:54 PM ----------

Or you could retain the factory sub, which probably will cover the gap between your mids and added 12".

And if he is running a stock system he is going to need all that sub has to offer

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 09:57 PM
Truthfully, the factory sub is garbage. Id rather listen to the music without the factory sub then with it. If i upgrade speakers later on, would the cover that gap?

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 09:58 PM
If you tune your sub to 30 hz, I have a real good feeling you will be missing from 60/70 hz to about 150 hz.

---------- Post added at 07:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:54 PM ----------

Or you could retain the factory sub, which probably will cover the gap between your mids and added 12".



In my case when I put in a AM HU I lost my factory sub. The harness do not have wires for it

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 09:59 PM
Truthfully, the factory sub is garbage. Id rather listen to the music without the factory sub then with it. If i upgrade speakers later on, would the cover that gap?

If you upgrade your HU with one like mine and many others, they have LPF and HPF for your front stage

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 10:01 PM
I would say mid to upper 30s. It will still get low and be loud and musical at the same time.. But you never going to get great sould until you upgrade to head unit

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 10:06 PM
My headunit has a navagation and bluetooth. I wont be upgrading it. My stsyem has tweeters in it, it that helps. Would tunin to 30 on the sub, changing the stock amp and stock speakers with new speakers n a new amp helpw with that midbass gap id be missing?

thevic24
05-24-2011, 10:08 PM
My box is tuned to 45hz. I can play 33hx tones with no problems at all.(3512)

I have a 44hz tuned box for a 1508 and can play 35 hz tones with no problems.

Both do great for me in my app for daily listening and the occasional demo.

CHEMMINS
05-24-2011, 10:13 PM
Get yourself a re-q or something similar to add the 12" and amp to the factory system, and maybe change up the factory 8" to a better unit, that requires low power to bridge the gap.

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 10:14 PM
What is a 1508 and a 3512?? Lol

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 10:16 PM
What is a 1508 and a 3512?? Lol

Digital designs

thevic24
05-24-2011, 10:16 PM
What is a 1508 and a 3512?? Lol
Sorry, those are the model # of 2 of my subs.

The 3512 is a 3500 series DD 12" and the 1508 is a 1500 series DD 8" sub.
(they are the 2 that I use the most out of what I have)

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 10:17 PM
What about the fosgate 360 would that help him?

thevic24
05-24-2011, 10:20 PM
What about the fosgate 360 would that help him?
???

CHEMMINS
05-24-2011, 10:22 PM
What about the fosgate 360 would that help him?


A 360.2 would work for him, but why spend that kind of money?

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 10:22 PM
What a re-q? Is that a sub?

I already bought the fiq 12. Is the 360 seperate from the sub i have now?

Im clueless guys, tell me what i need and ill get it lol

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 10:24 PM
I also plan on upgrading the tweeters i have also. I have the sub and sub amp down. I just need speakers, tweeters n amp. From what im understanding, i might need a smaller sub dedicated just for midbass also??

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 10:25 PM
A 360.2 would work for him, but why spend that kind of money?

You might could find one used for a decent price? I just think he is going to want more with that factory deck and the 360 will give him that

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Doesnt JL have somthing like it also?

outsideshot23
05-24-2011, 10:26 PM
some dubstep is. especially if you listen to chopped and screwed

90% of jeezys songs are 42-45 hz.. juice box , airforces.. etc.. my box is at 38 peaking in low 40s and i streetbeat jeezy

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 10:26 PM
I also plan on upgrading the tweeters i have also. I have the sub and sub amp down. I just need speakers, tweeters n amp. From what im understanding, i might need a smaller sub dedicated just for midbass also??

No you dont. You need a good comp set

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 10:27 PM
90% of jeezys songs are 42-45 hz.. juice box , airforces.. etc.. my box is at 38 peaking in low 40s and i streetbeat jeezy

Same as Lil Waynes stuff

CHEMMINS
05-24-2011, 10:30 PM
No you dont. You need a good comp set

No comp set off the shelf will play down to 60/70 hz with any output. A 3 way system yes....2-way, no.

Kangaroux
05-24-2011, 10:32 PM
No comp set off the shelf will play down to 60/70 hz with any output. A 3 way system yes....2-way, no.

well it depends, are we talking about a car with properly deadened doors or not lol

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 10:32 PM
No comp set off the shelf will play down to 60/70 hz with any output. A 3 way system yes....2-way, no.



I know my hertz set gets low, not sure how low but the will shake the rear view on some tracks

CHEMMINS
05-24-2011, 10:34 PM
rta them at the next comp.....I bet they poop out around 120-150 hz.

RAM_Designs
05-24-2011, 10:35 PM
28hz tuning here, but I love the lows.

Kangaroux
05-24-2011, 10:36 PM
28hz tuning here, but I love the lows.

:yumyum:

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 10:38 PM
Im going for sq in this setup. I listeb to mostly rap, but i like to liaten to some songs where i can hear every string being played. Im dynamatted the doors next week. So i should go for a 3 way or a 2 way? And whats the difference?

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Sorry for all the typos, touchscreen keyboards **** lol

outsideshot23
05-24-2011, 10:38 PM
No comp set off the shelf will play down to 60/70 hz with any output. A 3 way system yes....2-way, no.

i got some focal polyglass that do ok

NoLoud4U
05-24-2011, 10:39 PM
Im going for sq in this setup. I listeb to mostly rap, but i like to liaten to some songs where i can hear every string being played. Im dynamatted the doors next week. So i should go for a 3 way or a 2 way? And whats the difference?

3 speakers
2 speakers

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i got some focal polyglass that do ok

I pretty sure my Hertz get in the 80s

groundpound4200
05-24-2011, 10:40 PM
Well I believe Dr. Subwoofer recommends 30hz for the best sound :fyi:

CHEMMINS
05-24-2011, 10:48 PM
i got some focal polyglass that do ok

Do ok...but nothing special or able to keep up with the rest of the system.

And to the OP if you can find a 3 way setup with passive x-overs you will probably be very happy. If I recall correctly, there is an eclipse 3 way set avail for cheap that falls in that category.

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 11:33 PM
Got a link to the eclipse 3 way? Any reccomendation on brands for tweeters and 3 ways? I have a 10 speaker set up in my car stock, would i have to replace all 10 speakers??

yowhobedat
05-24-2011, 11:38 PM
Back to the original question, i i get a 3 way n cross it over at say 60-70hz, tuning the sub to 30 should be fine then right, eveything should blend in and there wont be that missing gap anymore right? Whats a good rms for speakers? Lol im new to speakers too. I usually install subs on the weekends sometimes, but thats about it lol

Jroo
05-25-2011, 09:07 AM
So help me understand tuning cuz I have only had sealed boxes. If your box is tuned to 28, it will play low. My understanding is 28 is where it would be peaking and starts to fall off under that? If a guy is tuned to 40 or 45, his tune is higher and he falls off under that. Basically that type of tune will be loud from 100 to 45 but wont really play low? So guys with these higher tunes are really just trying to be loud and not worried about lows. I am going to have 8"s as midbass so my midbass cut is going to be around 60. I would want a low tuned sub if I went ported? Help me if I am going the wrong direction

VWBobby
05-25-2011, 09:53 AM
^^ Correct. Tuning to 28hz is usually considered "flat" and has very little to no peak at 28hz, the response is nearly flat from there out. When you tune higher, you wind up with a peak near your tuning frequency and can have quite a big boost depending on type of box (ported, 4th or 6th order) and port type.

For subs I'm running 2 Phoenix Gold titanium 12's tuned to 31hz. I have 8" mid's in the doors LPF'd at 80hz, and SoundStream 6.5" 3-way coaxials that play above that. ;) probably the oddest setup on the forum, but sounds good.

-01limited-
05-25-2011, 10:23 AM
34 here. I wanna go lower though:crap:

yowhobedat
05-25-2011, 04:22 PM
Would there be a big difference tuning 28 compared to 30?

Vossy
05-25-2011, 04:26 PM
I'm tuned to 27.8 with some Skars, I love chopped and screwed
50 hz + sounds like garbage though

Kangaroux
05-25-2011, 04:30 PM
Well I believe Dr. Subwoofer recommends 30hz for the best sound :fyi:

38hz * :fyi:

bgowdy31
05-25-2011, 04:39 PM
well mine is "suppose" to be tuned at 36hz but on a term lab its loudest at about 46hz

VWBobby
05-26-2011, 02:25 AM
Would there be a big difference tuning 28 compared to 30?

Not a huge difference, but I would expect at least a 1 or 2db boost around 30/31hz (if tuned to 30hz). The easiest way to tell is to plug your box into WinISD and try it at 28 and 30 to see for yourself. :)

Ronny
05-26-2011, 02:30 AM
32 and 35hz.

slim2fattycake
05-26-2011, 03:58 AM
34 here. I wanna go lower though:crap:

You can, get you some PVC at lowes and extend those ports. :D


well mine is "suppose" to be tuned at 36hz but on a term lab its loudest at about 46hz

That doesn't mean that you're not tuned at 36hz.


Also, to whoever that said most rock is in the lower 30hz range, please give me a list of those rock songs. I loved to listen to rock with lower 30hz notes in them.

subzero
05-26-2011, 04:52 AM
i tuned to 36 and peaked at 47....

sacsking916
05-26-2011, 03:42 PM
im tuned at 33 and dont know what my peak is yet. will know next weekend

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 03:57 PM
You can, get you some PVC at lowes and extend those ports. :D



That doesn't mean that you're not tuned at 36hz.


Also, to whoever that said most rock is in the lower 30hz range, please give me a list of those rock songs. I loved to listen to rock with lower 30hz notes in them.

A lot of linkin parks stuff is also green day. Kick drums are low notes. they just hit faster then hip hop lows

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 04:04 PM
Do you think hip hop is low cause its not, besides a few jezzy and zoe tracks. Its mostly in the 40s range.
I havent heard it in a while but I think Entersand man is prety low.. Hells bells also

slim2fattycake
05-26-2011, 04:06 PM
What songs from linkin park? I have all their albums.

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 04:08 PM
I dont know the names.. They shuffle through the ipod sometimes.. When I hear them I'll shoot you a PM. Im about to download enter sandman and see if I have a good memory or not

i2ain2thunder
05-26-2011, 04:08 PM
I need to listen to some rock. Haven't really done that since I installed my system and mine is made for speed and accuracy. Linkin Park does get low like in hybrid theory.

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 04:12 PM
Im listen to some of their stuff now but I cant tell on these laptop speakers

sacsking916
05-26-2011, 04:33 PM
gucci drops in the 30's, as does wayne. i heard some eminem stuff slam, but it was only a couple songs. hard to find some deep low rap songs your right.

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 06:27 PM
OK I guess I was right but I will call in more Punk then rock.
I dont have the freq software so I am taking a guess here for my untrained slightly tone deaf ears.
Flobots-handlebars
Gorrillaz- feel good inc
dropkick murphys- I'm shipping off to boston
Green day-know your enemy
I started to get into the Hollywood undead tracks, they might be good canidates
along with 3OH!3

If Im wrong let me know cause the bass drum digs in my car

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gucci drops in the 30's, as does wayne. i heard some eminem stuff slam, but it was only a couple songs. hard to find some deep low rap songs your right.

Wayne has a few but most of his stuff like a milli is in the high 40s right?

slim2fattycake
05-26-2011, 06:57 PM
OK I guess I was right but I will call in more Punk then rock.
I dont have the freq software so I am taking a guess here for my untrained slightly tone deaf ears.
Flobots-handlebars
Gorrillaz- feel good inc
dropkick murphys- I'm shipping off to boston
Green day-know your enemy
I started to get into the Hollywood undead tracks, they might be good canidates
along with 3OH!3

If Im wrong let me know cause the bass drum digs in my car

Feels good inc peaks 56-57hz with -18 to -19dB.
I also checked some linkin park songs like numb, in the end, faint, and bleed it out. None of which has anything impressive in the 30hz range or even low 40s. Most of the drums is in the 60hz-120hz range.

PS- I'm using audacity to check.

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 07:00 PM
Feels good inc peaks 56-57hz with -18 to -19dB.
I also checked some linkin park songs like numb, in the end, faint, and bleed it out. None of which has anything impressive in the 30hz range or even low 40s. Most of the drums is in the 60hz-120hz range.

PS- I'm using audacity to check.

Wow thanks, i thought it was lower then that. Is that software free? Did you try handlebars or any of the other ones?

slim2fattycake
05-26-2011, 07:05 PM
Its free. To me, MOST rock doesn't get low as rap. The bass drum in a normal setup isn't going to get that low. I'd consider it midbass.

I don't have the other songs so I didn't check them.

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 07:07 PM
Im downloading it now. So I will be able to check any sons in my Itunes library?

05fronty
05-26-2011, 07:17 PM
my box is 38hz and 56hz. my next one i'm gonna start on soon will be 46hz fyi

slim2fattycake
05-26-2011, 07:19 PM
Im downloading it now. So I will be able to check any sons in my Itunes library?

Yes.

Here a rap song that gets low. Ludacris how low - peak 33hz, -7dB

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 07:24 PM
Yes.

Here a rap song that gets low. Ludacris how low - peak 33hz, -7dB
I got that one.
Tell me this.. Snoop doggs - wet.. It gets stupid loud in my car but there is no vibration. The subs are doing some work, I cant see how my mirrors are perfectly still?

Is that what I heard as the cars frequancy?

slim2fattycake
05-26-2011, 07:30 PM
I don't have that song.

yowhobedat
05-26-2011, 09:29 PM
Wet gets loud in my car. My mirrors shake, n there not even a sub in there.

Any suggestions on a good comp set up ? Preferably reasonly priced.

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 09:34 PM
Whats your budget.
Do you have any limitations on space. Sub size you would want

NoLoud4U
05-26-2011, 09:36 PM
Wet gets loud in my car. My mirrors shake, n there not even a sub in there.

Any suggestions on a good comp set up ? Preferably reasonly priced.

I got 1200watts moving 2 12s and the car is calm. I think its like the tuning fork concept. vibrations are so fast you dont even feel them?

yowhobedat
05-26-2011, 11:32 PM
I have a sub alreadi, fi q 12. I started this post lol i need sum ideas for upgrading my speakers now

kushy_dreams
05-27-2011, 03:23 PM
I'm at 33 right now and I like it. I do like the lows though so in the future I might tune in the high 20s. I listen to mostly rap and electronica. Gucci, Jeezy, Zoe and Lil Wayne all have songs that hit consistently in the low 40s to high 30s with dips into the low 30s and high 20s (Put On For my City, Hypnotize, Trappin Aint Dead and a few others). With my 33hz tune I can play rock and everything else fine. I have built/heard setups tuned from 31-38 and they have all been pretty musical imo. However as mentioned throughout the thread, the lower you tune(below 33-34), the more top end you will loose (65-70hz +)

VWBobby
05-28-2011, 09:43 AM
For rock music that gets low, try Fear Factory - Shock, Edgecrusher. Korn and Disturbed have some pretty good bass for rock. For higher end bass, industrial - Nine inch nails - Ruiner, Closer, Head like a hole.

Low rap songs, Ludacris - Blueberry Yum Yum. TechNine - Low. DJ Magic Mike - Beats 4 my Van :)

bgowdy31
05-28-2011, 10:45 AM
mine is tuned to 36hz... i think my peak low is 30 anything lower my subs gets warm i gess its the way the box is but not really 100% sure... SPL wise my best db score is at 46hz