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bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 12:01 PM
So I bought a battery from a member on here a long time ago (Nov. 09) and when it arrived it was not packaged very well and the corner was a bit dinged up. I wanted to file a claim but the seller convinced me it would be fine if I just sealed it up with a little Goop, so I did. I installed the batt under my giant enclosure and I literally have to take my car apart to see it so today is the first time I've seen it since I put it in and there's a nice big collection of what I can only guess is battery acid corrosion under the battery. It's just white and powdery like corrosion looks like.

My question is though, do I have any right to expect the seller to do anything or am I boned since it's been like a year and a half?

The batt is resting at 12.7V right now and I haven't really seen any performance decrease but obviously the battery isn't sealed anymore and probably shouldn't be in my car...

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 12:07 PM
The batt says "12V 505 watts per cell" meaning each cell is 12V so I guess it's possible only one of the cells is leaking (and therefor dead) but the rest are still good?

Mookie
05-21-2011, 12:09 PM
Shoulda sent it back when you had the chance.

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 12:13 PM
Shoulda sent it back when you had the chance.

Well that's obvious now but this batt weighs close to 100 pounds and isn't exactly cheap to ship, at the time I thought it would be fine...

sacsking916
05-21-2011, 12:14 PM
Shoulda sent it back when you had the chance.

gotta agree with that. shouldve handled it then, instead of mending it bro.

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 12:23 PM
gotta agree with that. shouldve handled it then, instead of mending it bro.

Yes, I AGREE, I already said that....That's not my question, I'm asking whether or not I should expect the seller to do anything about it at this point but I'm thinking I already know the answer...

k_schutte
05-21-2011, 12:37 PM
No... you should not expect ANYTHING from the seller after over a year! You shouldn't expect anything from the seller after a few weeks IMO. It is your job to evaluate the item when you receive it and determine whether or not it is to you liking and handle any issues right then. i feel like even asking this question is absurd!

I would say he should have filed a claim but if it was poorly packaged, they wouldn't have done anything. HOWEVER, it would have gotten back to him with no shipping charges and you could have at least gotten a full refund.

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 12:43 PM
No... you should not expect ANYTHING from the seller after over a year! You shouldn't expect anything from the seller after a few weeks IMO. It is your job to evaluate the item when you receive it and determine whether or not it is to you liking and handle any issues right then. i feel like even asking this question is absurd!

I would say he should have filed a claim but if it was poorly packaged, they wouldn't have done anything. HOWEVER, it would have gotten back to him with no shipping charges and you could have at least gotten a full refund.

Yeah I figured.

-01limited-
05-21-2011, 12:45 PM
Yeah, original seller isnt responsible for anything. You accepted the battery in its condition and put it to work.

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 12:47 PM
Think it's still usable? I know some batteries have the cells in series but if this one has 12V cells they'd have to be in parallel so it should still function with one being dead right? I guess I'm more worried about the fact that now that it's not sealed it could be leaking some shat into the cabin of my car...

k_schutte
05-21-2011, 01:02 PM
If it had a dead cell, you would know! Voltage would either be crazy high or crazy low. I have seen them rest at like 13.8v and at like 10.2v both had a bad cell.

Either way, if you are sitting at 12.7V, you are probably fine. I would just try to seal it up. Set the battery up side down (assuming it cracked a the bottom) wipe it down with some Baking Soda/water on a rag to neutralize any acid on the case. Then get something god to seal it up, Plastic Weld is pretty good stuff, that might work. I have used a soldering iron and plastic more than once with good results, just like brazing but with plastic...

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 01:07 PM
If it had a dead cell, you would know! Voltage would either be crazy high or crazy low. I have seen them rest at like 13.8v and at like 10.2v both had a bad cell.

Either way, if you are sitting at 12.7V, you are probably fine. I would just try to seal it up. Set the battery up side down (assuming it cracked a the bottom) wipe it down with some Baking Soda/water on a rag to neutralize any acid on the case. Then get something god to seal it up, Plastic Weld is pretty good stuff, that might work. I have used a soldering iron and plastic more than once with good results, just like brazing but with plastic...

It has to lay on it's side and the crack is on one of the top corners. The way it was laying before the crack was on the bottom but I rotated it so the crack is now facing up. I don't see/feel any acid on it, that's the weird part, it feels like the GOOP sealed it well but obviously it's leaking somehow. I've never heard of Plastic Weld but I'll see if I can find it at the hardware store.

outsideshot23
05-21-2011, 02:01 PM
Me adn you both man.. ******* johnny law little theiving bastard. Bought a d9 from him.. took him weeks to shipo I gave him badfeedback he gave me bad feedback just because. I fuckin paid him that day so i guess ima bad buyer. Was collecting audio for months for my monster build.. finlly got it all going about 2 months ago. That amp lasted about 20 burps and blew.. opened it up and it had been repaired several unmentioned times.. thieveing little bastard piece of ****

outsideshot23
05-21-2011, 02:02 PM
Me adn you both man.. ******* johnny law little theiving bastard. Bought a d9 from him.. took him weeks to shipo I gave him badfeedback he gave me bad feedback just because. I fuckin paid him that day so i guess ima bad buyer. Was collecting audio for months for my monster build.. finlly got it all going about 2 months ago. That amp lasted about 20 burps and blew.. opened it up and it had been repaired several unmentioned times.. thieveing little bastard piece of ****


and i was told tot ell goob and get the bad feedback taken away since noting was done on my end but paying promptyly and wanting my product.. thanks for not clearing it up goob. big thumbs up

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 02:05 PM
Well the hardware store didn't have that plastic weld but they did have a Do-It-Best brand plastic epoxy that says it's strength is like 3500psi once hardened. I know it will bond to the plastic just fine but what I'm worried about is it's resistance to the acid...not exactly spelled out as "acid-proof" on the package, it says it's solvent proof though :P

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 03:26 PM
Well I'm pretty pleased with the epoxy I bought, it hardened up in like 15 minutes and now is like a rock and seems to have sealed it pretty well. I cleaned up all the leaked acid with baking soda/water and now I'm going to start putting her back together.

sleazebagger
05-21-2011, 03:30 PM
Well I'm pretty pleased with the epoxy I bought, it hardened up in like 15 minutes and now is like a rock and seems to have sealed it pretty well. I cleaned up all the leaked acid with baking soda/water and now I'm going to start putting her back together.

so ya say the batt is still good and now ya fixed it up... so if ya get another year out of this thing then screw it! ya did alright:) and you had a nice batt for 2.5 years

sacsking916
05-21-2011, 03:32 PM
Well I'm pretty pleased with the epoxy I bought, it hardened up in like 15 minutes and now is like a rock and seems to have sealed it pretty well. I cleaned up all the leaked acid with baking soda/water and now I'm going to start putting her back together.

put in a battery box this time bro. at least that way it doesnt get all over your stuff

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 03:39 PM
put in a battery box this time bro. at least that way it doesnt get all over your stuff

It sits in the spare tire well so the only thing it's getting on is the deadener in there which seemed to resist it pretty well...

mossberg385t
05-21-2011, 04:01 PM
each cell is around 2V thats why there are 6 cells, dont know how to help you with the situation other than it cant hurt to try

bubbagumper6
05-21-2011, 04:18 PM
each cell is around 2V thats why there are 6 cells, dont know how to help you with the situation other than it cant hurt to try

It says right on the batt that each cell is 12V brah