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Joseph M
04-13-2011, 07:26 PM
I am looking for a quick 4 door car, (5 sec 0-60/14.8 and below quarter mile). trying to keep it under or at 20k

Ones ive been looking at
wrx/sti
Lancer evo MR
Mazdaspeed 6/3
bmw 3 series twin turbo

any others i should be checkn for?

Slayerx
04-13-2011, 07:32 PM
Buy a 66 chevy malibu 4 door for 3K, invest another 15k into it and you have one fast tricked out car 4-door!

bhsdriller
04-13-2011, 07:33 PM
^ I like that idea

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 07:33 PM
Taking out a loan on a portion of it, so it has to have value.

whitedragon551
04-13-2011, 07:39 PM
Grand Prix GXP or GTP

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 07:40 PM
those in the under 14 1/4 mile?

dbjunior
04-13-2011, 07:40 PM
g8 gt 0-60 5.3 1/4mile 13.8 very comfortable interior. if you can find one cheap enough the g8 gxp is even faster

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 07:41 PM
good one, didnt even think of that.

05fronty
04-13-2011, 07:45 PM
obviously you are looking at used right?

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 07:46 PM
holycow, those g8's hold value for being d/c brand

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yea used.

Heeltoeclutch
04-13-2011, 07:48 PM
WRX/STi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So many good reasons... The Subie community is the best in the car world, they sound the best, they break the least (STis especially - invincible transmission) much more reliable and cheaper than EVOs, symmetrical (not converted) AWD, Double DIN drop-in HU's for all US models prior to 08 and a simple kit for newer ones...

Mine makes me happy every time I drive... scoobies have souls and personalities :inlove:

STi: 0-60 in 4.5 seconds
WRX: 0-60 in 5.3 seconds

edit: don't forget you can go 100 mph through snow and ice and dirt and gravel and forests and anything else where other cars would get stuck and be useless :)

whitedragon551
04-13-2011, 07:49 PM
those in the under 14 1/4 mile?

Should be. I had a 99 GT that did a 1/4 in less than that without a supercharger or V8. The GXP does it in 14.3.

whitedragon551
04-13-2011, 07:49 PM
New double post forum feature.

05fronty
04-13-2011, 07:51 PM
Mitsubishi : Evolution | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-/110674404182?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19c4b56356)
offer him 10k

05fronty
04-13-2011, 07:52 PM
Mitsubishi : Evolution | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-/110674404182?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19c4b56356)
offer him 10k

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 07:59 PM
the STI's arent known for the relibleness... car and driver had problem with there long term test car. think they had to do a new block/ and new trany.
and only had it for 23k miles. i test drove a 07 wrx, man it didnt feal as fast as the numbers said it was. but the ride was alot better than the evo

stangman67
04-13-2011, 08:12 PM
I vote WRX. I just ordered a 2011 for 26k out the door. If you can pick up a 2009 or 2010 for around 20k, do it! They have been tested 0-60 in 4.7 ( although driving it like this a lot will grenade the tranny)


Fast, fun, reliable.

stangman67
04-13-2011, 08:13 PM
07WRX's aren't extremely fast. 2008+ got the bigger turbo and extra power. Although I wouldn't get an 08 because a lot of the 08's had engine issues.

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 08:14 PM
thanks for the input. Ya it didnt feal fast at all.

whitedragon551
04-13-2011, 08:16 PM
You can also look at older Vettes. Around here you can get a mint Vette ZR for 7-8,000 depending on options.

stangman67
04-13-2011, 08:17 PM
You can also look at older Vettes. Around here you can get a mint Vette ZR for 7-8,000 depending on options.

Not a 4 door

retrojordans
04-13-2011, 08:17 PM
WRX/STi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So many good reasons... The Subie community is the best in the car world, they sound the best, they break the least (STis especially - invincible transmission) much more reliable and cheaper than EVOs, symmetrical (not converted) AWD, Double DIN drop-in HU's for all US models prior to 08 and a simple kit for newer ones...

Mine makes me happy every time I drive... scoobies have souls and personalities :inlove:

STi: 0-60 in 4.5 seconds
WRX: 0-60 in 5.3 seconds

edit: don't forget you can 100 mph through snow and ice and dirt and gravel and forests and anything else where other cars would get stuck and be useless :)

ROFL? Every single Subaru ever made has blown/going to blow the driver side head gasket due to poor engineering. And as for the community...Well you are just wrong about that rofl, you just think that because that's the community you're involved in...Would you know about the Ford truck community? How about the offroad Jeep community? Would you have a clue about anything you hippie? Subarus ****.

stangman67
04-13-2011, 08:18 PM
Be careful with Ms3/ms6 too, the turbo 2.3 is extremely susceptible to engine failures. The connecting rods **** hardcore

Heeltoeclutch
04-13-2011, 08:19 PM
07WRX's aren't extremely fast. 2008+ got the bigger turbo and extra power. Although I wouldn't get an 08 because a lot of the 08's had engine issues.

09 sir had more - I have an 08. We have the TD04, 09+ has TD05. The 08 was "too soft" :laugh: I love mine. 50k, no issues so far.

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 08:24 PM
nice. wagon or sedan?

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 08:25 PM
Be careful with Ms3/ms6 too, the turbo 2.3 is extremely susceptible to engine failures. The connecting rods **** hardcore

Ya, there gernades if people try to low rpm full throttle them. like every turbo, i guess

dumple
04-13-2011, 08:33 PM
2002 Audi s4 with k04 swap and chip roughly 400 all wheel horses and they are **** to bootAnd you'd be under busget

retrojordans
04-13-2011, 08:33 PM
Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG
BMW M5
Cadillac CTS-V
Infiniti G35 (2007)
Jaguar XJR (1998)
Jaguar XJR (2004)
Jaguar S-Type R
Lexus GS400 (1998)
Mercedes-Benz S55 AMG (W220)
Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG (W220)
Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG (W220)
Mercedes-Benz 300E AMG Hammer (W124)
Mercedes 500E (W124)
Mercedes S600 (W220)
Mercedes C36 AMG (W202)
Mercedes C43 AMG (W202)
Mercedes C32 AMG (W203)
Mercedes C55 AMG (W203)
Mercedes CLS55 AMG (W219)
Mercedes CLS63 AMG (W219)
Mercedes E55 AMG (W210)
Mercedes E55 AMG (W211)
Mercedes E63 AMG (W211)
Volvo S60R / V70R
Lexus GS 300
BMW 528I
Lincoln LS
Audi A4 1.8T (1 (95-01)
Audi A4 1.8T (2 (01 - )
Audi A4 1.8T s line ((04 - )
Audi A4 1.8T SE (2 (01-)
Audi A4 1.8T Sport (1 (95-01)
Audi A4 2.0 FSI SE (2 (01-)
Audi A4 2.0 SE (1 ( - 01)
Audi A4 2.0T FSI (3 (01/05 - )
Audi A4 2.5 Tdi (2 (01 -)
Audi A4 2.8 quattro (1 (95-01)
Audi A4 2.8 quattro (1 (95-01)
Audi A4 3.0 (2 (01 - )
Audi A4 3.0 Quattro (2 (01-)
Audi A4 3.0 TDI (10/04 -)
Audi A4 3.0 TDI Quattro (3 (06 - )
Audi A4 DTM ((05 - )
Audi A4 RS4 (1 (05 - )
Audi A4 RS4 (1 (95-01)
Audi A4 RS4 (2 (06 - 07)
Audi A4 S4 (1 (95-01)
Audi A4 S4 (2 (03 - )
Audi A4 Tdi PD130 Sport
Dodge Charger Daytona (05)
Honda Accord 2.0 Vtec
Honda Accord 2.4 Vtec
Honda Accord i-CTDi (03 - )
Honda Accord Type R
Honda Accord Type S (3 (03 - )
Honda Accord Type-R (07 - )
Lexus IS -F (1 (07 - )
Lexus IS 200 (0)
Lexus IS 220d (2 (06 - )
Lexus IS 250 (2 (05 - )
Lexus IS 250 SR ((08 - )
Lexus IS 300
Lexus IS 430 (1 (04 - )
Lexus IS 430 (concept)
Lexus IS 430 supercharged
Saab 9-3 1.8t Vector (2 (02 - )
Saab 9-3 1.9 TiD (2 (05 - )
Saab 9-3 2.0 aero extreme
Saab 9-3 2.0T Aero (2 (03 - )
Saab 9-3 2.0T Aero sentronic (2 (03 - )
Saab 9-3 2.0T Arc (2 (03 - )
Saab 9-3 2.0t Vector (2 (02 - )
Saab 9-3 2.2 Tid Vector (2 (02 - )
Saab 9-3 Aero 2.0 HOT (2)
Saab 9-3 R3 (Abbott Racing) (2 (02 - )
Volvo S60 2.0T SE (1)
Volvo S60 2.4T (1)
Volvo S60 D5 SE (1 (03-)
Volvo S60 R (1 (03-)
Volvo S60 T5 (1)


And many many many more...

retrojordans
04-13-2011, 08:36 PM
If you are serious about fast sedans...Why would you ask the clowns on this site? There are whole sites/forums dedicated to fast sedans where people actually know what they're talking about...Lol.

A 4-door "saloon" called the Brabus Rocket goes 227mph...lol. There are real saloons/sedans out there for 20k you don't need to settle for garbage when talking about $20,000.

Heeltoeclutch
04-13-2011, 08:38 PM
ROFL? Every single Subaru ever made has blown/going to blow the driver side head gasket due to poor engineering. And as for the community...Well you are just wrong about that rofl, you just think that because that's the community you're involved in...Would you know about the Ford truck community? How about the offroad Jeep community? Would you have a clue about anything you hippie? Subarus ****.

Lulz. That was my half-kidding fanboy rant. :p:

I do in fact know about the other sectors of the automotive world - I go to a school where nearly every single person is obsessed with cars, as such I have seen a large assortment of their respective communities. Back in Cali I used to go to meets where hundreds of cars would gather, and all the different groups would have their little areas. The Subaru guys were always the nicest, most helpful people and it is the same in MI. I know some awesome people in the diesel truck community and the old old Chevy truck community I've met here. I don't think the Subie community is necessarily better than all the others, but it is filled with people who will wave to you on the streets, drive alongside for miles, help when you need a hand with something... There are a few @ssholes of course but that is the case with any large group of people. I would rather be a member of the Subie community than any other I have seen, (though I don't claim to know them all :p: No one does).

Consumer Reports has listed Subaru amongst the top manufacturers practically since Fuji created Subaru. Reliability has always been high, and the only real weak link in the WRXs is the transmission, as it is the same one from the Impreza. You can beat the **** out of the engines and they will usually thank you kindly for it. Yes people have had issues with them, but the boxer engine on the whole is an extremely robust and reliable piece of engineering.

and joseph, mine is a sedan. :thumbsup:

the727kid
04-13-2011, 08:41 PM
Charger R/T?

stangman67
04-13-2011, 08:44 PM
Charger R/T?

slloooooow and ugly

retrojordans
04-13-2011, 08:49 PM
Lulz. That was my half-kidding fanboy rant. :p:

I do in fact know about the other sectors of the automotive world - I go to a school where nearly every single person is obsessed with cars, as such I have seen a large assortment of their respective communities. Back in Cali I used to go to meets where hundreds of cars would gather, and all the different groups would have their little areas. The Subaru guys were always the nicest, most helpful people and it is the same in MI. I know some awesome people in the diesel truck community and the old old Chevy truck community I've met here. I don't think the Subie community is necessarily better than other, but it is filled with people who will wave to you on the streets, drive alongside for miles, help when you need a hand with something... There are a few @ssholes of course but that is the case with any large group of people. I would rather be a member of the Subie community than any other I have seen, (though I don't claim to know them all :p: No one does).

Consumer Reports has listed Subaru amongst the top manufacturers practically since Fuji created Subaru. Reliability has always been high, and the only real weak link in the WRXs is the transmission, as it is the same one from the Impreza. You can beat the **** out of the engines and they will usually thank you kindly for it. Yes people have had issues with them, but the boxer engine on the whole is an extremely robust and reliable piece of engineering.

and joseph, mine is a sedan. :thumbsup:

Uh that rediculous "boxer" motor you fan so hard for is the very reason the car's coolant rests above gasket level corroding the head gaskets (as well as other parts) from the minute the car is filled with coolant.


Subaru is not even in the same spectrum of reality as many of the sedans I listed.

Subaru's break everywhere, everything in them is cheap, they cost a ton to have repaired if your mechanic will even touch it, they are not great overall...Sure a turbo charged all wheel drive car is fun..Whoopie. Set aside 2 grand the day you buy it for new head gaskets amongst many other costly repairs.

For the same repair costs you could drive a Mercedes (computer issues), Cadillac (oil leaks), Volvo (electrical issues), Saab (coolant leaks), Audi (electrical problems), Jaguar (sensors), or BMW (timing belts)..As you can see all of these cars require preventative maintenance and just repairs in general, so when you will be repairing any and all vehicles why choose to repair something like a Subaru *Cringe*

R34P3R
04-13-2011, 08:52 PM
Charger R/T?

I was literally posting a link to one of these. The 08 SRT8 fits every criteria you specified, and looks fierce will just a wheel upgrade. It's really easy to make them look spectacular with the stock performance to match. Definitely the best suggestion in this thread with the STi pulling a close second.

Heeltoeclutch
04-13-2011, 08:59 PM
Subaru is not even in the same spectrum of reality as many of the sedans I listed.

Subaru's break everywhere, everything in them is cheap, they cost a ton to have repaired if your mechanic will even touch it, they are not great overall...Sure a turbo charged all wheel drive car is fun..Whoopie. Set aside 2 grand the day you buy it for new head gaskets amongst many other costly repairs.

For the same repair costs you could drive a Mercedes, Cadillac, Volvo, Saab, Audi, Jaguar, or BMW..

I don't mean to argue with you sir, but for the benefit of the OP Mercedes' reliability of late has dropped drastically as CR and others will confirm. My friend's dad had a BMW, and its repairs were what kept the local shop in business. Several of my co-workers have Bimmers and they are always fixing something, albeit never the engine. Cadillacs are heavy and very anti-modify-me, and I would never consider a Jag for fear of side-of-the-road time. I would buy a Volvo or Saab any day, and Audi perhaps just because they are so fun, although I would be a bit worried about reliability. :)

retrojordans
04-13-2011, 09:09 PM
I don't mean to argue with you sir, but for the benefit of the OP Mercedes' reliability of late has dropped drastically as CR and others will confirm. My friend's dad had a BMW, and its repairs were what kept the local shop in business. Several of my co-workers have Bimmers and they are always fixing something, albeit never the engine. Cadillacs are heavy and very anti-modify-me, and I would never consider a Jag for fear of side-of-the-road time. I would buy a Volvo or Saab any day, and Audi perhaps just because they are so fun, although I would be a bit worried about reliability. :)

Subaru is a one trick pony. Ugly little rally cars and hippy station wagons. All cars require repairs so why overpay to have garbage repaired when you could repair a worth while vehicle. Yea Jaguar isn't one of the top luxury car brands in the world or anything all Jags are just sitting on the sides of roads, right. Driving a Subaru must skew your perception of reality...You have no clue about Mercedes' "reliability of late" ROFL dude..wow..You are clueless. "My friends daddy blah blah" ROFL.

Heeltoeclutch
04-13-2011, 09:24 PM
Alrighty man :) You buy what you want and I'll do the same. I don't think it'll help the OP for us to argue childishly and I don't think we're going to come to an agreement. I've said what I know from the research I've done and experience I've had, take it for what it's worth. Good luck OP and I hope you enjoy whatever you decide on :thumbsup:

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 09:28 PM
Mitsubishi : Evolution | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-OCTANE-BLUE-Lancer-EVO-X-CLEANEST-EBAY-SSS-/290553450975?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43a655d1df)
lil over budget...but i could talk him down. any one have one?

P5_BORICUA
04-13-2011, 09:42 PM
I would say for the money get urself an 08 speed3, they are great little cars that walk the wrx and the rally spec lancer an a daily.... plus the mazda comunity is great!

Joseph M
04-13-2011, 09:43 PM
my bro has a '10 ms3 so im tryn to not copy him

the727kid
04-13-2011, 09:47 PM
slloooooow and ugly

Coming from a guy that drives a Focus. Your opinion is about as good as The Situation doing comedy.

mclerico83
04-13-2011, 09:49 PM
grand prix's all the way. gtp or gxp you will run low 14's in 04-08, i have my 08 grand prix running sub 11's. their rally easy to beaf up for not a lot of money and so many people and parts out there

W Body Store (http://www.wbodystore.com/grandprix/index.php)
ZZ Performance (http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/index.php)
INTENSE-Racing.com - Pontiac G8, Grand Prix, Bonneville, Regal, L67 3800 Supercharged Performance Products, Mods and Tunes. (http://www.intense-racing.com/)

3 big sites that specialize in grand prix parts n performance

P5_BORICUA
04-13-2011, 09:51 PM
Coming from a guy that drives a Focus. Your opinion is about as good as The Situation doing comedy.

lmao haha

but yea then you know exactly how good the mazda comunity is, and if ur bro has a ms3 get yourself an 07 ms6! haha, sorry im kind of a big mazda guy

Suicide Bobb
04-13-2011, 09:52 PM
You can get an E46 BMW M5 for under $20k...that'd be my choice.

Jeremy M
04-14-2011, 04:40 PM
my bro has a '10 ms3 so im tryn to not copy him

lol that's right don't be copying me!

pro-rabbit
04-14-2011, 04:43 PM
14 sec car and fast are not the same thing :fyi:

infamous_e46
04-14-2011, 04:51 PM
http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/4440436_2.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/4m8hi.jpg

ive spent about 4k i havent ran it but they say low 14 high 13's

thevic24
04-14-2011, 04:53 PM
14 sec car and fast are not the same thing :fyi:
This.

I was going to suggest an ISF, 0-60 in 4.6 and 13 flat average 1/4 mile times with a 12.89 the best that I have seen personally on a stock car.
Only problem is the 20K budget....

Just did some work on a BMW M3 with SMG shift. It was a trade in and had a ton of mods. Iam not a BMW fan but that car was a blast to drive.

thevic24
04-14-2011, 04:56 PM
4 door 2005 Cavalier with the Ecotech 2.2L.
Add the GM performance blower, cams, intake, exhaust, suspension, and some good dyno tuning and you will
have you a nice daily driver for well under your 20k.

I know a guy that drives a red 4 door that has the above along with a nicely built 2.2 crate motor from GM and it gets into
the upper 12's and gets 30+ mpg.
(it is still a Cavalier thou...)

jco1385
04-14-2011, 04:59 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/mercury_marauder.jpg

03-04 Marauder :fyi:

GiAnT4LYFE
04-14-2011, 05:08 PM
I love my '04 GTP!! 1st gear is a lil slow, but after that it'll give you want you want and more. Plenty of room in the trunk, back seat is a little cramped.....I'd recommend it.

CrispedUp
04-14-2011, 05:10 PM
WRX/STi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So many good reasons... The Subie community is the best in the car world, they sound the best, they break the least (STis especially - invincible transmission) much more reliable and cheaper than EVOs, symmetrical (not converted) AWD, Double DIN drop-in HU's for all US models prior to 08 and a simple kit for newer ones...

Mine makes me happy every time I drive... scoobies have souls and personalities :inlove:

STi: 0-60 in 4.5 seconds
WRX: 0-60 in 5.3 seconds

edit: don't forget you can go 100 mph through snow and ice and dirt and gravel and forests and anything else where other cars would get stuck and be useless :)

why would you want to go 100mph in snow and ice?

ugs92
04-14-2011, 05:10 PM
2007-2008 Acura TL type s six speed manual. Real fast car with just an few mods, u can get it up to low 14's maybe high 13's

Heeltoeclutch
04-14-2011, 05:13 PM
why would you want to go 100mph in snow and ice?

If you're Colin McRae, I suppose. :) I very much enjoy romping and sliding around the snowy dirt roads here.

the727kid
04-14-2011, 05:16 PM
14 sec car and fast are not the same thing :fyi:

While I agree, fast is subjective. What if he has never driven anything but 16-17second cars? A high 13second car is going to be fast to him. Besides anything in the high 13 range is quicker than most cars on the street.

pro-rabbit
04-14-2011, 05:19 PM
If you're Colin McRae, I suppose. :) I very much enjoy romping and sliding around the snowy dirt roads here.

I do some times with the awd dsm. I generally like making the idiots feel stupid when I leave their V8s way way back haha...sorry to any one who owns V8s but some of the owners are just well stupid. Then they turn into a big baby when my little 4 banger is actually not slow haha.

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While I agree, fast is subjective. What if he has never driven anything but 16-17second cars? A high 13second car is going to be fast to him. Besides anything in the high 13 range is quicker than most cars on the street.

True, I guess I'm tainted by my life experiences.

Chriszle
04-14-2011, 05:30 PM
[QUOTE=pro-rabbit;7565643]I do some times with the awd dsm. I generally like making the idiots feel stupid when I leave their V8s way way back haha...sorry to any one who owns V8s but some of the owners are just well stupid. Then they turn into a big baby when my little 4 banger is actually not slow haha.

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Lets race for pinks, once I get my drag radials???? P.S. The V8 in my car has less then 5 grand into everything including the original cost of the motor. Good luck getting close to same performance for cost. On a sidenote, there are a lot of 4 cylinder cars that are quick, but the fact of the matter is the amount of money spent for the percentage of power gained over starting with a larger motor to begin with is not arguable. I also have pics and vids during the engine swap on my phone, if anyone cares to see. I just do not have a way to get them from my phone to my computer atm.

Joseph M
04-14-2011, 07:15 PM
Lexus isf is sick but way over budget. I've been eye balling the tl six speed.

whitedragon551
04-14-2011, 07:16 PM
If you dont have to have a "car" the Trailblazer SS. 13.9 second 1/4 mile in an SUV.

pro-rabbit
04-14-2011, 07:20 PM
[QUOTE=pro-rabbit;7565643]I do some times with the awd dsm. I generally like making the idiots feel stupid when I leave their V8s way way back haha...sorry to any one who owns V8s but some of the owners are just well stupid. Then they turn into a big baby when my little 4 banger is actually not slow haha.

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Lets race for pinks, once I get my drag radials???? P.S. The V8 in my car has less then 5 grand into everything including the original cost of the motor. Good luck getting close to same performance for cost. On a sidenote, there are a lot of 4 cylinder cars that are quick, but the fact of the matter is the amount of money spent for the percentage of power gained over starting with a larger motor to begin with is not arguable. I also have pics and vids during the engine swap on my phone, if anyone cares to see. I just do not have a way to get them from my phone to my computer atm.

You are so far from the truth. My DSM has less in it then your car, but I bet we are on the same page on times in the 1/4(I would even say I'm faster). I'm not saying V8s are slow just some owners are stupid and arrogant such as your first part of the post. You last part of your post just shows your inability to understand what different cars can do with various amounts of money. I am building a V8 project myself so no, I'm not biased in anyway just because I own a dsm.

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If you dont have to have a "car" the Trailblazer SS. 13.9 second 1/4 mile in an SUV.

I like this option myself.

thevic24
04-14-2011, 08:16 PM
If you dont have to have a "car" the Trailblazer SS. 13.9 second 1/4 mile in an SUV.
How about the GMC Typhoon??

pro-rabbit
04-14-2011, 08:17 PM
How about the GMC Typhoon??

We have a few around here. I like the syclone myself.

I would imagine the OP wants something newer though.

whitedragon551
04-14-2011, 08:23 PM
How about the GMC Typhoon??

Only has 2 doors. OP wants 4.

pro-rabbit
04-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Only has 2 doors. OP wants 4.

forgot all about 4 doors hahaha

05fronty
04-15-2011, 06:57 PM
something cheap, but what about a cobalt ss 4 door? the turbo version.

Imtjnotu
04-15-2011, 06:58 PM
Grand Prix GXP or GTPg8 gxp

Imtjnotu
04-15-2011, 06:59 PM
http://www.cool-wallpapers.biz/gallery/cars/pontiac-g8-gxp/Pontiac-G8-GXP3.jpg

tpmeredith
04-15-2011, 07:35 PM
im a big fan of cts-v's personally, heres some

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Joseph M
04-15-2011, 08:14 PM
newer is better, the SS trailerblazer is a good one. not a big fan of the cts-v..tomany mexicans around here have the cts

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g8 gxp

g8's are rare around here unless its the v6 model

Joseph M
04-15-2011, 08:15 PM
i really want a manuel tranny but not againest an auto

Heeltoeclutch
04-15-2011, 08:23 PM
i really want a manuel tranny but not againest an auto

If you want a manual, I think you'll be disappointed eventually if you get an auto. You'll have this car for years... spend thousands on something you really want.

Just my 2 cents. this has been my experience. i wouldn't have it any other way now.

Joseph M
04-15-2011, 08:29 PM
Yea thats how i feal right now about my car that i have. if it was a manuel.. i'd enjoy it ALOT more.

dumple
04-15-2011, 08:30 PM
2002 s4 twin turbo v6 !!!

retrojordans
04-15-2011, 08:45 PM
Yea thats how i feal right now about my car that i have. if it was a manuel.. i'd enjoy it ALOT more.


i really want a manuel tranny but not againest an auto


newer is better, the SS trailerblazer is a good one. not a big fan of the cts-v..tomany mexicans around here have the cts


the STI's arent known for the relibleness... car and driver had problem with there long term test car. think they had to do a new block/ and new trany.
and only had it for 23k miles. i test drove a 07 wrx, man it didnt feal as fast as the numbers said it was. but the ride was alot better than the evo


thanks for the input. Ya it didnt feal fast at all.


Ya, there gernades if people try to low rpm full throttle them. like every turbo, i guess

Wow dude's spelling is amazing. When the word has a red underline it's spelled wrong.

Heeltoeclutch
04-15-2011, 08:48 PM
Wow dude's spelling is amazing. When the word has a red underline it's spelled wrong.

story that is cool brother.

tomany mexicans sounds funny though if you pronounce it "tomminy" :laugh:

retrojordans
04-15-2011, 08:51 PM
story that is cool brother.

tomany mexicans sounds funny though if you pronounce it "tomminy" :laugh:

I can't stand when adults spell words so horribly wrong, and have no concept of grammar. It shows serious stupidity, and forces people to immediately lose all respect for them. It shows they have no self respect.

Jeremy M
04-15-2011, 09:18 PM
Woah, who let the grammar police in here?

porksoda
04-16-2011, 12:38 AM
Look into a Dodge Spirit R/T or Dodge Neon SRT-4.

infamous_e46
04-17-2011, 02:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBRPy8n2L3E&feature=player_embedded



that *****?

lowriderram_95
04-17-2011, 03:06 AM
Idk if anyone has mentioned it or not, to lazy to read it all, why not look into integra gsr 4 doors. Fairly quick stock and can be built up for the cheap

stangman67
04-17-2011, 03:24 AM
I'll say it again. WRX. New for 25k

Joseph M
04-17-2011, 12:52 PM
I can't stand when adults spell words so horribly wrong, and have no concept of grammar. It shows serious stupidity, and forces people to immediately lose all respect for them. It shows they have no self respect.

LOL now this is funny..considering half the time its from my phone and the other half i dont really give a **** about. BUT let me guess.. Your one of the people that thinks there **** doesnt smell? OOHHH thats right...

Why did you even post? need to get your count up?

Heeltoeclutch
04-17-2011, 12:54 PM
Idk if anyone has mentioned it or not, to lazy to read it all, why not look into integra gsr 4 doors. Fairly quick stock and can be built up for the cheap

I love hondas and tegs to death, but they're nearly all FWD... :crap:

I had so much fun with my EF civic regardless though. It certainly wasnt quick but handled like a go-kart.

Joseph M
04-17-2011, 12:57 PM
Around here..any honda/acura w/o the chip in the key... has a "steal me" sign all over it. You cant even go to the movies with one of those..I think we were in the top 5 for highest stolen vehicles, and 90 percent of them being hondas.

lambo37
04-17-2011, 12:58 PM
just read some respnses, and just an fyi the stock wrx form models 2002-2006 i believe had more psi than any others(not counting sti) their stock is 13.5psi most others are11-12.5ish in real world. just letting you know, not trying to start arguments or anything. All stis stock boost is 14.5(maybe not the 2010+im not sure on them)

Heeltoeclutch
04-17-2011, 01:09 PM
just read some respnses, and just an fyi the stock wrx form models 2002-2006 i believe had more psi than any others(not counting sti) their stock is 13.5psi most others are11-12.5ish in real world. just letting you know, not trying to start arguments or anything. All stis stock boost is 14.5(maybe not the 2010+im not sure on them)

I believe my stock tune was max boost at 13ish psi in 4th gear at around 4k rpm, but I don't have my tuning laptop with me atm so I cannot check. Another good thing about Subaru + Mitsubishi is that they support open-source tuning, so allz you need is a tactrix cable and a laptop and you can flash and reflash ROMS, datalog everything, edit ROMS, etc. Or you could pay more and get an accessport, but that's money you could spend on other stuffs.

4x4runner
04-17-2011, 01:45 PM
2002 audi s4. mom has one with just a giac chip and upgraded divertor valves. very fast , smooth, awd, 6-speed, and comfortable car. Way nicer than the the honda/acuras recomended. For 20k you could get the 03+ s4 , they replaced the twin turbo 6 with a v8. Faster stock, but not as easy to modify. Probably more than enough stock. no personal experience but you dont have to worry with turbo failure with the v8.

I Like Waffle
04-17-2011, 01:48 PM
a buddy of mine has a 1983 caprice with LS6 454 under the hood, its pretty quick.

I Like Waffle
04-17-2011, 02:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBRPy8n2L3E&feature=player_embedded



that *****?

Shits awesome. Stang didnt do as well as the porches in the corners but once he got on the straights he made up for it. Ftw

pelekeliko
06-25-2011, 02:22 AM
i agree with the727kid

charger r/t you dont even need an srt

they run 13's stock, four dour, lots of leg room, navigation, heated seats, sun roof, trunk can fit like 10 people and the list goes on and on!
parts are pricey for them and a ***** to install but just with a diablo predator they pull really nice.

Brian_smith06
06-25-2011, 02:41 AM
my buddies 05 Volvo s60 type r is pretty fast