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ciaonzo
03-01-2011, 07:58 PM
Item(s) for Sale:

(2) 12" 3HP prototypes. Extremely rare, the only two I've ever seen or know of.

Only selling them as a pair.


Item(s) Description/Condition:

Musical and beastly.

Very long coil (3.5"WW), massive copper sleeve on the pole. Crazy power handling.

Never used, only tested. Essentially brand new.

Specs:

Dual 2ohm

Re = 1.5/coil, specs pulled in series.
Fs = 25.8894 Hz
Zmax = 38.7039 ohms
Qes = 0.5122
Qms = 6.0229
Qts = 0.4720
Le = 0.9676 mH (at 1 kHz)
Diam = 246.3800 mm ( 9.7000 in )
Sd = .0477 m^2( 73.8981 in^2)
Vas = 24.6562 L ( 0.8707 ft^3)
BL = 21.8359 N/A
Mms = 494.9209 g
Cms = 76.3590 uM/N
Kms =13096.0332 N/M
Rms = 13.3669 R mechanical
Efficiency = 0.0785 %
Sensitivity= 80.9664 dB @1W/1m



Price:

$650 plus half of shipping (CONUS) from 53527. Heavy mugs.

No trades, please.


Shipping and Miscellaneous Item Information:

Tops and motors will ship separately to avoid damages.


Item Pictures:

More pics and info on this link. --> http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofers/478546-if-you-like-tc-goodness-bring-jerkins-some-tissues.htmlhttp://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww43/ciaonzo/Misc%20TC/DSC05256.jpg

RAM_Designs
03-01-2011, 08:00 PM
Trade for my soul?

ciaonzo
03-01-2011, 08:14 PM
Trade for my soul?:angel:

my_stealth21
03-01-2011, 09:05 PM
PM'd

CL1CKCLACK
03-01-2011, 09:29 PM
any trades?

ciaonzo
03-01-2011, 09:32 PM
;7510594']any trades?No, thank you for asking. Will edit to reflect this.

CL1CKCLACK
03-01-2011, 09:34 PM
danggg, GLWS!

ciaonzo
03-03-2011, 09:44 AM
Coffee break.

ciaonzo
03-05-2011, 09:39 PM
Saturday Night Fever.

jackdaniels
03-05-2011, 09:45 PM
how much picked up

chris the man
03-05-2011, 09:48 PM
OP...

i just wanted to let you know i dug up a thread about your explanation of tc sounds motors. you are ******* awesome. your knowledge is unmatched, and you have wayyy too many TC sounds subs. i have showed all my guys at work that thread an you have educated us all. your a ******* ****** and i am now one of your groupies.

BUMP FOR A BAD AZZ MOTHA FUKKA

p.s. you are awesome and i am now gay for you

-]

ciaonzo
03-05-2011, 10:03 PM
how much picked up$650


OP...

i just wanted to let you know i dug up a thread about your explanation of tc sounds motors. you are ******* awesome. your knowledge is unmatched, and you have wayyy too many TC sounds subs. i have showed all my guys at work that thread an you have educated us all. your a ******* ****** and i am now one of your groupies.

BUMP FOR A BAD AZZ MOTHA FUKKA

p.s. you are awesome and i am now gay for you

-]Very kind of you, I appreciate it. I definitely don't know it all and love to be proven wrong so that I may learn something as well. Plenty of very knowledgeable folks around here so please don't take my word as gospel! :)

BassAddictJ
03-06-2011, 02:49 AM
sooooo ****

PioneerSPL1990
03-06-2011, 10:51 AM
i just got a chubby! these r beautiful. glws wish i had money.

ciaonzo
03-07-2011, 05:26 PM
Thanks, fellas!

Parker G
03-07-2011, 05:59 PM
Very Nice woofers here! They look a little familiar :)

sobe3yourself.
03-07-2011, 06:07 PM
would one of these be good sealed?

ciaonzo
03-07-2011, 07:07 PM
Thanks, Parker.

sobe3yourself, these are very well suited for tiny sealed enclosures - Low Fs, nice medium Qts, tiny Vas, and massive power handling. Sensitivity is not on your side, though. You'd need plenty of power.

ciaonzo
03-09-2011, 01:41 AM
Late bump.

ciaonzo
03-10-2011, 09:34 AM
Up.

ciaonzo
03-12-2011, 09:32 AM
Topside.

droppedv6
03-12-2011, 11:56 AM
what are the recommended specs for ported and how much wattage should we give them? Im in search of a power 12 similar to the xcon/dp/level xl.

ciaonzo
03-12-2011, 01:03 PM
what are the recommended specs for ported and how much wattage should we give them? Im in search of a power 12 similar to the xcon/dp/level xl.Honestly, I wouldn't even bother with a conventional ported enclosure. Ever try to model a 1 cubic foot enclosure with a 25Hz tuning? Might as well build a TL, lol. I would highly recommend going small sealed with these or using TC Sounds passive radiators with them. Thermal power handling won't be of much concern but I would use at least 1-1.5k on each to start with.

BumpinKota
03-12-2011, 02:16 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't even bother with a conventional ported enclosure. Ever try to model a 1 cubic foot enclosure with a 25Hz tuning? Might as well build a TL, lol. I would highly recommend going small sealed with these or using TC Sounds passive radiators with them. Thermal power handling won't be of much concern but I would use at least 1-1.5k on each to start with.

I was very interested in these speakers until i read this… They dont perform well ported?

ciaonzo
03-12-2011, 03:37 PM
They dont perform well ported?That's not at all what I said. I recommended using passive radiators instead of conventional ports, lol. Almost exactly the same thing as a vented enclosure but better in most respects when done correctly.

droppedv6
03-12-2011, 04:36 PM
will the TC Sounds VMP 12" Passive Radiator work? How big of a box would it require if we ran one with this PR? I am interested but not in the pair..anyone wanna split?!!

ciaonzo
03-13-2011, 03:20 PM
will the TC Sounds VMP 12" Passive Radiator work? How big of a box would it require if we ran one with this PR? I am interested but not in the pair..anyone wanna split?!!
Yes, as I stated above your post, the TC Sounds version in particular because it has similar excursion capabilities and compliance parameters that will best suit the tiny enclosures these drivers want to see. As far as enclosure size, did you notice the Vas figure?

If we shoot for the ubiquitous sealed alignment Q of .707, by simply plugging the following formula we get one very tiny enclosure to try and shoehorn a monster of a 12" into.

Vb = Vas / (( Qtc / Qts )^2 - 1)

24.656 / (( .707 / .472 )^2 - 1) = 19.825 liters (approximately .7 cubic feet)

For use with a PR you might bump the volume up to .8 cubic feet per driver.

I will not split these drivers up.

AJM511
03-13-2011, 03:22 PM
I'll give you my first born? +shipping

ciaonzo
03-14-2011, 01:51 PM
Lunch break.

ciaonzo
03-15-2011, 07:41 PM
To the top.

sam_mc50
03-16-2011, 09:53 PM
if you do end up splitting these up i would like dibs

ciaonzo
03-17-2011, 06:45 PM
if you do end up splitting these up i would like dibsSorry, that spot is already filled.

bombout800
03-18-2011, 11:57 AM
Man these are nice! I wish I had the monies

CL1CKCLACK
03-18-2011, 03:26 PM
if someone was smart and had the money they would buy the pair and sell em for 400 a piece...

ciaonzo
03-19-2011, 11:08 PM
Thanks for the bumps, fellas.

ciaonzo
03-21-2011, 11:36 AM
Uppy.

ciaonzo
03-22-2011, 04:04 PM
Overtime.

BumpinKota
03-22-2011, 09:09 PM
trade for tc 5200 18"?

ciaonzo
03-23-2011, 09:36 AM
trade for tc 5200 18"?

Very nice offer but I'm not taking trades.

ciaonzo
03-24-2011, 09:24 AM
Coffee....

ciaonzo
03-24-2011, 11:39 PM
Yup.

ciaonzo
03-26-2011, 04:53 PM
http://lexrecords.com/images/longvein42copy_001.jpg

ciaonzo
03-27-2011, 09:57 PM
Topside.

ciaonzo
03-28-2011, 07:39 PM
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww43/ciaonzo/Misc%20TC/DSC05222.jpg

Bettr n' Revrse
03-28-2011, 07:55 PM
Dang wish you had two...

Scrtach that wrong thread lol

ciaonzo
03-28-2011, 08:50 PM
Dang wish you had two...

Scrtach that wrong thread lollulz

I was like...

ciaonzo
03-29-2011, 09:14 PM
To the top, please.

ciaonzo
03-31-2011, 09:39 AM
Break time.

ciaonzo
04-01-2011, 09:34 AM
Coffee break.

ciaonzo
04-02-2011, 01:18 PM
Finally, a day off.

audio_phill
04-04-2011, 06:14 PM
quit trolling and answer my PM's lol. I has money... for you

ciaonzo
04-04-2011, 08:43 PM
quit trolling and answer my PM's lol. I has money... for youBeen working some very long hours and I don't have time to answer PM's at work. I'll get back to you on it.

ciaonzo
04-05-2011, 09:29 PM
PM's returned.

Up for the night.

ciaonzo
04-07-2011, 09:19 AM
Up.

ciaonzo
04-08-2011, 03:33 PM
Yup.

ciaonzo
04-09-2011, 09:11 PM
Silver.

Imtjnotu
04-10-2011, 03:39 AM
Bump for u but how did ur friend like the 10"

ciaonzo
04-10-2011, 09:24 AM
Thanks. He loved it but it was more than he needed.

Imtjnotu
04-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Ah what did u end up doing with it and thse 12's are nice

ciaonzo
04-11-2011, 04:38 PM
Keeping it. Yeah, these are incredible.

ciaonzo
04-12-2011, 10:04 PM
No others exist.

Imtjnotu
04-13-2011, 03:58 AM
ygpm...well 2 pms

ciaonzo
04-13-2011, 08:24 AM
ygpm...well 2 pmsThanks, responded.

ciaonzo
04-14-2011, 07:51 PM
Up up and away!

ciaonzo
04-15-2011, 07:24 PM
Glad the weekend is here.

ciaonzo
04-17-2011, 03:35 PM
Last bump.