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d2k
03-01-2011, 05:25 AM
hi all.......

just grabbed a set of comps LNIB for 30 = $48.... shipped

Vibe BlackAir 13cm comps (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CCsQgwgwBA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcaraudiosecurity.com%2Fshop%2Fpro duct%2Fproducts_id%2F12301%2Freferer%2Frc_googlepr oduct.html&ei=IblsTda2Lsa2hAfWqKX8Aw&usg=AFQjCNFFzJ9hLFepQg5MqzEXDkc6qaAo3w)

these are British distribution but i was wondering what the specs look like to everyone..?? ;)

PHD - USA
03-01-2011, 05:27 AM
They sure are..... Unique =]

theMessenjah44
03-01-2011, 05:34 AM
I haven't used them, but I've heard good things about vibe

d2k
03-01-2011, 05:41 AM
cheers lads!!


it states a minimum of 50wrms...??, whats gonna happen if i give them less....... will i damage them.??

d2k
03-01-2011, 05:55 AM
can you under-power speakers..??, i did hear on here somewhere that its a myth......

theMessenjah44
03-01-2011, 05:56 AM
myth, try to keep around the rms rating or lower....don't go higher unless you really know what you're doing, lol

d2k
03-01-2011, 06:00 AM
cheers buddy!!

Suicide Bobb
03-01-2011, 06:01 AM
Silk dome tweeter = good

audioholic
03-01-2011, 11:43 AM
can you under-power speakers..??, i did hear on here somewhere that its a myth......
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brynm
03-01-2011, 12:02 PM
myth, try to keep around the rms rating or lower....don't go higher unless you really know what you're doing, lol

I freely admit I barely know wtf I'm doing and I've been feeding my comps double rated power for a few years now with no issue.

d2k
03-01-2011, 12:04 PM
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LMAO!!!


that's where i read it ......:cool:

audioholic
03-01-2011, 03:10 PM
I freely admit I barely know wtf I'm doing and I've been feeding my comps double rated power for a few years now with no issue.

There's a difference between hooking an amp to a set of comps that is rated for double their rated power, and actually supplying them double their rated power continuously. You've either gained your amp's output back significantly, so its not really outputting double the speakers' rated power, or the speakers you have were rated very poorly by their manufacturer.

When people 'overpower' their speakers by a significant amount, and call it headroom, this simply means the amp is gained down to lower its output to the level the speakers can handle, and all that wattage you removed from the output will go towards peak demand periods when an amp would normally start clipping immediately. This is why SQ guys like to 'overpower' their front stage, its a distortion reducing tactic for those peak output periods when the amp can draw significantly more power (and produce more output) than its rated for (or that it's gain/sensitivity is adjusted to).

The misconception that people are truly 'overpowering' their speakers by 2x, 3x or more times their rated power, stems from the same basic misunderstanding of rated power versus actual power that creates the misconception I address in my sig. Just because an amplifier is rated for X number of watts does not mean its outputting that many watts when the volume knob is turned all the way up, due to conditions such as gain settings, and system voltage for loosely regulated amps. It may be outputting less than rated, and it may be outputting more.

dragnix
03-01-2011, 03:22 PM
as long as it's not Lanzar Vibe, you're probably ok

d2k
03-01-2011, 03:29 PM
as long as it's not Lanzar Vibe, you're probably ok

lol....noooo, there's no affiliation with Lanzar's entry level crap...:D


someone did say to me (in the UK) that underpowering is just as bad as overpowering....

''apparently'' if you underpower speakers designed for pretty high RMS outputs the cone wont vibrate enough to cool the coil, thus killing them softly..lol :laugh:

any truth to that....???

bubbagumper6
03-01-2011, 04:12 PM
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lol, you were the first person I thought of when I read his question...

audioholic
03-01-2011, 04:42 PM
lol....noooo, there's no affiliation with Lanzar's entry level crap...:D


someone did say to me (in the UK) that underpowering is just as bad as overpowering....

''apparently'' if you underpower speakers designed for pretty high RMS outputs the cone wont vibrate enough to cool the coil, thus killing them softly..lol :laugh:

any truth to that....???
If that were true, running your stereo at anything less than full volume would be dangerous to your speakers.

09civic
03-01-2011, 04:45 PM
They sure are..... Unique =]

We are american...of course the look unique. Lol

d2k
03-02-2011, 11:50 AM
got yet ANOTHER bargain.......:), you guys have sent me ICE crazy, lol


so i picked this lightly used amp up to power my front end (4x coax's).....for 100 = $163 shipped!!

Massive Audio HD 8004B (http://www.massiveaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=16221&cat=0&page=2)

so.... anyone have any experience with this unit, or happen to own one..??






(my GF will cut my balls off if she finds out i bought another amp instead of taking her shopping)

c_nitty
03-02-2011, 11:56 AM
myth, try to keep around the rms rating or lower....don't go higher unless you really know what you're doing, lol
True true.

d2k
03-02-2011, 01:30 PM
anyone own one of these then...???

http://www.massiveaudio.com/store/image.php?type=P&id=16221

its got a 40A blade fuse... yet it states it'll put out 400wrms x2 @ 4ohm bridged..??


but with 40A of fusing surely its only capable of just over 400wrms max..???

budahbuddy803
03-02-2011, 01:47 PM
got yet ANOTHER bargain.......:), you guys have sent me ICE crazy, lol


so i picked this lightly used amp up to power my front end (4x coax's).....for 100 = $163 shipped!!

Massive Audio HD 8004B (http://www.massiveaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=16221&cat=0&page=2)

so.... anyone have any experience with this unit, or happen to own one..??






(my GF will cut my balls off if she finds out i bought another amp instead of taking her shopping)

Eh it would only be 1 pair of shoes, 1 top, 1 bottom, or 1 bathing suit for that price... tell her to wait until you have REAL money so she can get more than 1 item :)

d2k
03-02-2011, 01:56 PM
Eh it would only be 1 pair of shoes, 1 top, 1 bottom, or 1 bathing suit for that price... tell her to wait until you have REAL money so she can get more than 1 item :)

LMAO!!!


AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL BY THE PRICES IM PAYING FOR MY ICE, IM A BIT OF A SKIN-FLINT. :emb:

Rich B
03-02-2011, 01:59 PM
Sonicelectronix here in the US now has a few Vibe products.

They even carry the sub that matches those comps-
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/mIfsDpz7jsd2zwUItxv1nNw/140.jpg

VIBE AUDIO BA-15" Dual Car Audio Sub Woofer 2000w NEW - eBay (item 300524072120 end time Mar-10-11 08:11:49 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/VIBE-AUDIO-BA-15-Dual-Car-Audio-Sub-Woofer-2000w-NEW-/300524072120?pt=Car_Subwoofers_Enclosures&hash=item45f8a16cb8)

MONSONwarrior
03-02-2011, 02:00 PM
LMAO!!!


AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL BY THE PRICES IM PAYING FOR MY ICE, IM A BIT OF A SKIN-FLINT. :emb:

WTF is a skin-flint? must be a UK thing..

d2k
03-02-2011, 02:15 PM
WTF is a skin-flint? must be a UK thing..

well....what do you lads call someone who's tighter than a ducks a.ss hole when it comes to parting with money...?? thats me!!

d2k
03-02-2011, 02:17 PM
Sonicelectronix here in the US now has a few Vibe products.

They even carry the sub that matches those comps-
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/mIfsDpz7jsd2zwUItxv1nNw/140.jpg

VIBE AUDIO BA-15" Dual Car Audio Sub Woofer 2000w NEW - eBay (item 300524072120 end time Mar-10-11 08:11:49 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/VIBE-AUDIO-BA-15-Dual-Car-Audio-Sub-Woofer-2000w-NEW-/300524072120?pt=Car_Subwoofers_Enclosures&hash=item45f8a16cb8)

ooh.... its starting to filter across the pond.


theyre ''Vibe Space'' range is superb!!, the ''Vibe Black Air'' range is middle of the road really....


the ''Vibe Slick'' range is TOTAL pants.....

d2k
03-02-2011, 02:17 PM
so..... any ideas on the RMS outputs on the above amp...???

Suicide Bobb
03-02-2011, 02:24 PM
well....what do you lads call someone who's tighter than a ducks a.ss hole when it comes to parting with money...?? thats me!!

A Jew.

Rich B
03-02-2011, 02:41 PM
ooh.... its starting to filter across the pond.


theyre ''Vibe Space'' range is superb!!, the ''Vibe Black Air'' range is middle of the road really....


the ''Vibe Slick'' range is TOTAL pants.....


I like the box on this, but Im not sure about the sub itself.......

http://images.sonicelectronix.com/images/515698/big/slr10.jpg
NEW VIBE Audio SLR10 10" Loaded Subwoofer Enclosure/Box - eBay (item 300529391031 end time Mar-24-11 11:23:55 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-VIBE-Audio-SLR10-10-Loaded-Subwoofer-Enclosure-Box_W0QQitemZ300529391031QQcategoryZ18805QQcmdZVie wItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26 its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%2 52BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D300517796515%26ps%3D63% 26clkid%3D7456648365097804449)

d2k
03-02-2011, 02:44 PM
I like the box on this, but Im not sure about the sub itself.......

http://images.sonicelectronix.com/images/515698/big/slr10.jpg
NEW VIBE Audio SLR10 10" Loaded Subwoofer Enclosure/Box - eBay (item 300529391031 end time Mar-24-11 11:23:55 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-VIBE-Audio-SLR10-10-Loaded-Subwoofer-Enclosure-Box_W0QQitemZ300529391031QQcategoryZ18805QQcmdZVie wItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26 its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%2 52BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D300517796515%26ps%3D63% 26clkid%3D7456648365097804449)

here's where that sub belongs..:)

http://www.gardenoasis.co.uk/images/Parasene/18in_Dustbin_Tapered_Sides_Metal.jpg

Suicide Bobb
03-02-2011, 05:05 PM
Looks like I quoted the wrong poast in my previous poast. Fixt.