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Link-GC
08-22-2010, 07:56 PM
Hello everybody!. I'm new here. I want to change the stock speakers that my Chevrolet Aveo Hatchback 2007 has, because they sound horrible. I already bought a Pioneer DEH-2200UB headunit (but still haven't installed it).

I had a look at two models to place in the front doors: TS-A1072R and TS-D1002R.

Here are the specs:

TS-A1072R

Woofer Cone Material: Composite IMPP Cone with Interlaced Dual Aramid Fiber
Surround: Foam Rubber Coated Cloth
Voice Coil Bobbin: Glass-Imide
Damper: Aramid Fiber
Midrange: 15/16"Lightweight Balanced Soft Dome Midrange with Neodymium Magnet and Magnetic Fluid
Tweeter: 3/8" Soft Dome
Speaker Grille: Not Included
Watts MAX. Music Power: 150 Watts
Watts Nominal Power Handling: 20 watts
Frequency Response: 45 Hz to 30 kHz
Sensitivity (1W/1m): 90 dB
Ohm Rating: 4
Mounting Depth: 1-11/16" (43 mm)
Cut-out Dimensions: 3-1/2" (90 mm)

TS-D1002R

Woofer Cone Material: Dual-Layer IMX Aramid/Basalt Fiber Composite Cone
Surround: Butyl Rubber for Smoother Response
Voice Coil Bobbin: Glass-Imide
Voice Coil Wire: OFC Copper
Damper: Aramid Fiber
Tweeter: 1-1/8" Soft Dome with Magnetic Fluid and Neodymium Magnet
Rear Chamber Tweeter Design: Rear Chamber Design for Lower Crossover Frequency
Basket Design: Full Depth Basket for Rich Bass Response
Wave Guides: Wave Guides For Dispersion Control
Built-in Passive Crossover: -6dB/Oct. LPF, -12dB/Oct. HPF
Speaker Grille: Included
Watts MAX. Music Power: 110 Watts
Watts Nominal Power Handling: 25 watts
Frequency Response: 40 Hz to 40 kHz
Sensitivity (1W/1m): 86 dB
Ohm Rating: 4
Mounting Depth: 1-3/4"


Note: I could get the TS-D1002R for a few bucks lower than TS-A1072R.


Also, I was thinking to put in the rear the Pioneer TS-A4672R (4x6 inch), which has same specs as TS-A1072R. Do you think is it a good choice? I didn't see any model of the D-Series with this speaker size...

Another question, will I get much difference in quality sound if I put an amplifier for these speakers?

Thank you very much in advance!!
Greetings...

gary2k7
08-22-2010, 08:17 PM
Honestly? I would shop around online and find something better then the pioneers. They sound ok but depending on how much your paying for them you could find something better.

Link-GC
08-23-2010, 10:17 AM
Thanks! I read I could fit a shallow mount 6,5" speakers by doing some fixes (putting a 1" spacer). Do you think Polk Audio DB651 6.5-Inch Coaxial Speakers is good enough? It seems to be very shallow...Here are the specs:

6-1/2" 2-way car speakers (pair)
supplied adapter rings allow for fit into 6-3/4" locations
Dynamic Balance polymer/mica composite woofer with butyl rubber surround
3/4" liquid-cooled silk/polymer composite dome tweeter
Neodymium tweeter magnet
Kapton voice coil
ABS wheel-design grilles
Stainless steel mounting hardware
Certified for marine use
Power range: 6-60 watts RMS (180 watts peak power)
Frequency response: 35-22,000 Hz
Sensitivity: 92 dB
Top-mount depth: 1-11/16"

VWBobby
08-23-2010, 12:00 PM
Put your HU in and see what you think of your speakers. I recently replaced my factory Bose unit in my '01 Jetta with a cheap *** Pioneer $60 one and the difference was night and day. The factory speakers are some of the best OEM speakers I've ever heard. A lot of SQ can be tuned with EQ. That extra oz of SQ comes from having high quality equipment, along with the tuning in the proper enclosures.

MONSONwarrior
08-23-2010, 12:02 PM
I got my Pioneer comps that sound alright at Walmart for 55. :D I'm not sure if they're doing that around you though.

Millertime1028
08-24-2010, 09:36 PM
Honestly? I would shop around online and find something better then the pioneers. They sound ok but depending on how much your paying for them you could find something better.

I would not consider the Pioneer D series being just "OK". For the money, they are some of the hardest speakers to beat. Hell, I myself have put the D-1720c's up against speakers 3x the cost with the Pioneers performing just as well if better in some cases. They also make one of the most reknowned SQ components sets in their price range, the PRS components. The Pioneers I would stay away from is the A series as the OP has listed and the G series as well. Horrible build quality and lack correct detail in almost every freq band. Just my .02 . OP, I would definitely try to use a 6.5 in your doors. Spacers should work out for you in which you then should have around 2.75" of depth to work with. If you end up going with the D series I advie you to amp them. You will not regret doing so.

Link-GC
09-11-2010, 03:09 PM
Thanks for your answers!

I finally bought the Pioneer TS-A1673R (6,5") speakers for front, and Boss CH4620 (4x6") for rear.

I must admit: I'm a little disappointed with the general performance, since I expected to hear a huge difference.

The person who installed me the speakers fit them within the original place, and put the original grill on. I saw that there is just a 4" hole made behind the grill ... I wonder if the sound performance of the speakers is been reduced because of this. What do you think?

I think what most disappoint me is the fact that they don't have bass at all. If I turn up the bass in the head unit, I have to turn down the volume because they start distorting.

So, I am thinking now of getting a subwoofer. I had a look at the Infinity Basslink and it seems to be a good choice, because it is an all-in-one system (which means I don't have to buy an amplifier, box, etc.) and it is also small.

nateberrier
09-11-2010, 03:15 PM
I have some of the D1720c comps on a rubicon 604 and they get loud. some of the warmest tweets I've owned aside from my jl vrs

EuphoricBass247
09-23-2010, 06:48 PM
Pioneer d series are where its at