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1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 03:52 AM
So right now i got a treo but my buddy wants to buy it off me for what i bought for.
Its loud and does good on my 1501d thunder mtx amp
But a new deal came up theres a 15'' xcon for 200 - same what i bought the treo for
Sub woofer 15" XCON (http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/for/1821543110.html)
what would u do?
btw the amp does 1500 rms at 2 ohms

*SlappinAzz*
07-30-2010, 03:54 AM
xcon 15 fo sure. That beast will knock yo socks off.

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 03:56 AM
what would it do on sq?
cause i kno everybody told me the treo was all spl and it doesnt really have any sq. how would the ssa do on spl compared to the treo

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 05:02 AM
anybody else got an opinion??

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 09:08 AM
ttt

denim
07-30-2010, 11:40 AM
Heavily dependent on the install. The Xcon has the ability to get very loud in the proper set up, it also can sound quite good in the proper set up.

mossberg385t
07-30-2010, 11:57 AM
moar powa, csx 18s will take just about anything you can throw at them.

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 01:36 PM
Heavily dependent on the install. The Xcon has the ability to get very loud in the proper set up, it also can sound quite good in the proper set up.

is there a way you could shoot me a box blue prints for it? cause it didnt come in a box. or any hints or anything i should know? im new but im like a little kid with candy i want to learn as much as possible

*SlappinAzz*
07-30-2010, 01:38 PM
is there a way you could shoot me a box blue prints for it? cause it didnt come in a box. or any hints or anything i should know? im new but im like a little kid with candy i want to learn as much as possible

It means build your own box, or pay someone to design a box for you. That or you can actually pay someone to build you a box which can get expensive.

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 01:42 PM
It means build your own box, or pay someone to design a box for you. That or you can actually pay someone to build you a box which can get expensive.

na man i like car audio cause i learn from it everytime i do somethin.
ive built a simple box before i just dont kno how good it was. is there a good webpage that will describe how to make a good box?
before i did 1 12 t1 in a 2.5 cub box with an L port to 32 hrts

*SlappinAzz*
07-30-2010, 01:46 PM
na man i like car audio cause i learn from it everytime i do somethin.
ive built a simple box before i just dont kno how good it was. is there a good webpage that will describe how to make a good box?
before i did 1 12 t1 in a 2.5 cub box with an L port to 32 hrts

There are a couple of pages on this forum that help, look in the enclosures section.




to make sure a box is secure, use liquid nails or wood glue to seal it up inside, along with screws for extra strength. Fiberglassing the inside also seals it up to prevent leaks.

metsfan89
07-30-2010, 01:46 PM
xcon... i owned one. superb sound quaility and got very loud in a ported enclosure tuned to 32 hz and i have a pretty good sized car

nateberrier
07-30-2010, 01:46 PM
so build a box. everyones gonna tell you to do the xcon but ive never been unhappy with treo once. they sound **** good. USA made shizze brah

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 01:57 PM
Anybody got any blue prints? ive never done paypal or anything so i couldnt give no money,
but i would like to build a box or maybe try areoport? that'd be kinda cool

*SlappinAzz*
07-30-2010, 01:58 PM
Anybody got any blue prints? ive never done paypal or anything so i couldnt give no money,
but i would like to build a box or maybe try areoport? that'd be kinda cool

are you an adult with a bank account? If so, start a paypal up, link it to your bank account, and such, from there, probably cost you around 5-10$ for a design.

denim
07-30-2010, 02:00 PM
is there a way you could shoot me a box blue prints for it? cause it didnt come in a box. or any hints or anything i should know? im new but im like a little kid with candy i want to learn as much as possible

Sound Solutions Audio - Technical Center | Enclosure Designs (http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/index.php/technical.html)

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 02:01 PM
im 17.... and have parental on my bankaccount
ill try i got my bank account. would i pay first or after i get the dimensions? never bought anything online....
also if i were selling stuff on here. which i would like to. would i send out first or wait for money?

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 02:03 PM
Sound Solutions Audio - Technical Center | Enclosure Designs (http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/index.php/technical.html)

thanks man. i couldnt find the thanks button on this post so i thanked on another post of yours

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 04:10 PM
xcon 15 fo sure. That beast will knock yo socks off.

alright so i got a 1501d mtx thunder amp and its non bridgable.
idk if u need that info but the amp is NOT 1 ohm stable. so 2 ohm is the lowest it can do.
the xcon is dual 2ohm. which wired up would be minimum 4ohm right?
should i still do it? the treo 18 is dual 4ohm which could be wired down to 2 ohm. would this change anybodys opinions?

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 05:05 PM
ttt

RAM_Designs
07-30-2010, 06:47 PM
A D2 sub can only wire to either 4ohms or 1ohm. 4ohms and you're short on power with your amp, and running it at 1ohm will be somewhat risky for your amp over an extended period of time. I'd suggest keeping your CSX18, it's a beast, and maybe build a new box if you're not completely happy with how it's performing.

What are the current box specs as far as size and tuning go? What vehicle is it in, and what direction is the sub/port aiming?

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 07:03 PM
the demensions are 22H 38W 26D and the port is 4 in wide.
if that helps. if i thickened up the mdf board would it help? its 3/4 right now?
and its sub up and port up its supposed to be 32hrt and L shapped
and i got a grand marquis 97. so i got a huge trunk
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and so you wouldnt suggest getting the xcon sub? it wont do good at 4ohms?

RAM_Designs
07-30-2010, 07:12 PM
the demensions are 22H 38W 26D and the port is 4 in wide.
if that helps. if i thickened up the mdf board would it help? its 3/4 right now?
and its sub up and port up its supposed to be 32hrt and L shapped
and i got a grand marquis 97. so i got a huge trunk
There's your problem right there. Do sub and port back. The box needs to be well braced for a setup like that, but I honestly think you're losing output by having the sub and port firing at your trunk lid like that.


and so you wouldnt suggest getting the xcon sub? it wont do good at 4ohms?
Your amp just isn't going to give you the kind of power that you need at 4ohms. I think you'll be disappointed in the output going from an 18 with 1.5kw to a 15 with 750 watts.

*SlappinAzz*
07-30-2010, 07:18 PM
There's your problem right there. Do sub and port back. The box needs to be well braced for a setup like that, but I honestly think you're losing output by having the sub and port firing at your trunk lid like that.


Your amp just isn't going to give you the kind of power that you need at 4ohms. I think you'll be disappointed in the output going from an 18 with 1.5kw to a 15 with 750 watts.


This guy does speak the truth here. If you get the xcon, your gonna want to power that beast at full.

1-12-t1
07-30-2010, 07:20 PM
your right haha didnt think about the math like that. what if i put the sub sideways with the port goin the same way?
as in lay it down on its side?
or is the answer just to redo the box? i can use the box just make the port go a diff way? as in adjacent the sub? and away from cab?

RAM_Designs
07-30-2010, 07:27 PM
If you can build your own box, then I'd go for building a new one. You can try the whole box on it's side thing, see how you like it. But most of the time, sub and port firing back is the way to go with a trunk car, provided you have room around the box for the bass to make it's way into the cabin.