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papito
06-27-2010, 07:13 PM
I'm looking to get new components for my car....I was wondering which ones are best for around $150?


All I care about is SQ, but they have to be reasonably loud too of course. I listen to mainly hiphop and rock.

They will be powered by a Kicker ZX650.4, which puts out 120x4 @ 4 ohms.


I was thinking either Alpine Type R ($140) or maybe even Alpine type X ($199) if you guys could talk me into those




I'm open to suggestions, my sizes are 6.5" for doors and 1" for tweets.

thanks,
-papito

rosshimself13
06-27-2010, 07:25 PM
well SQ is all subjective, of course i love my focals, but they are the lowest line focal components you can buy i will tell you the same thing anyone else would and that is to go listen to speakers, find out what you like and go with that.. although hearing alpine and SQ in the same sentence is kind of funny

galacticmonkey
06-27-2010, 07:29 PM
Type R comps are pretty bright on the tweeters.

Before you buy any comps, seal and deaden the crap out of your doors. Inside and out. Without that being done, its hard to get good sound.

AllenH427
06-27-2010, 07:35 PM
although hearing alpine and SQ in the same sentence is kind of funny
You've never heard the type x line? I have the REFs and I hear that the PROs are the best bang your for buck SQ components out there.
But OP, what people would say are SQ components, and under $150 really arent the same thing. I do have the Type X REFs you are talking about and I think they sound great and they do get loud.

papito
06-27-2010, 07:38 PM
Will do glaticmonkey, but where can i get some cheapest? Do i need a special door kit, or does regular Dynamat have the same effect?

papito
06-27-2010, 07:40 PM
How will they take 120 RMS?

And how loud exactly are we talking a little louder than Type R's or just ear piercing like Rainbows?

EDIT: To AllenH427

AllenH427
06-27-2010, 07:45 PM
How will they take 120 RMS?

And how loud exactly are we talking a little louder than Type R's or just ear piercing like Rainbows?

EDIT: To AllenH427
My buddy has Rainbows... I wouldn't call them ear piercing by any means, they just sound really good. Type Rs are really freaking loud, but they don't sound near as good as the Type Xs. The Type Xs do get loud enough to make your ear drums tingle though. I fed them 90 RMS, now I'm feeding them 80 RMS and they actually get louder and sound better off my 80 RMS. I have the 5.25s and I think they are 65, the 6.5s are 75 I think, but if you are careful with the gain, I think they could handle it no problem.

papito
06-27-2010, 07:50 PM
Idk my buddys rainbows got super loud....

You think the Type X will sound good off a Kicker 650.4 with the gains down so it doesn't clip? Or should I get the Type R w/ that amp....?


I just dont want to blow them in a week, id rather run the type r is they can take the power better.

AllenH427
06-27-2010, 07:57 PM
Hard telling, I think it's a pretty safe bet that the Type Rs will get louder than the Rainbows. You just have to weigh the pros and cons, having both and hearing rainbows over 100 times now I'll lay it out for you.
Type Rs
-Cheaper
-Louder
-Still sound pretty decent

Type Xs
-A little more pricey
-Still get loud, just not like the Type Rs
-Sound better than the Type Rs

In your case, with your amp, the Type Xs are more expensive and the tweeters are fairly wimpy and I wouldn't take the risk giving them that much power. Now the Type Rs are cheaper, they'll love that much power, they'll get really loud and still sound pretty decent. I'd roll with the Type Rs. Best thing to do is try to find a local shop with Type Xs and Type Rs, see which sound you like better, both have a little different sound but usually people would prefer the warm sound the Type Xs deliver.

papito
06-27-2010, 08:02 PM
I think I'll go with the Type R then, because I dont want to blow such expensive speakers.

AllenH427
06-27-2010, 08:07 PM
It's only about an extra $50, I don't know, ask around for more input if people think they could handle that power.
For the loudness of the TypeXs, this is the 5.25s, which is smaller than the 6.5s.
YouTube - Alpine SPX-13REF Distance Clarity Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQBCW4YO7qU)

papito
06-27-2010, 08:19 PM
I've seen that video very impressive, but I think the Type R will be better suited for my application, b/c of the high power I'm using.

Louisiana_CRX
06-27-2010, 08:27 PM
if you want SQ I'd go with the DD componets they are comparable with the older Boston Acoustic Pros...the tweeters are clean and crisp and the midbass is strong when crossed right it can sound like you have mini subs.....

papito
06-27-2010, 08:35 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm just going to go w/ type r, the DD seem expensive.

galacticmonkey
06-27-2010, 08:42 PM
Just go with the Type X. The Type Rs dont sound very good. Ive heard the DD comps a ton of times. They sound ******* horrible.

Go with Second Skin Damplifier Pro for deadener. I have a bulk pack in each door. Id try to get a bulk pack split between the two front doors with the midbass. Id go for at least a trunk pack though. It may seem like a lot of money, but you wont get a good full sound without it.

Damplifier Pro - Automotive Sound Deadener CLD Vibration damping mat - See what all the fuss is about (http://secondskinaudio.com/vibration-mat/damplifier-pro.php)

mclerico83
06-27-2010, 08:52 PM
id ctx's will blow both of them away

stanky1219
06-27-2010, 09:13 PM
mclerico , what area of tampa do you live in? i'm over by the base off dale mabry

mclerico83
06-27-2010, 09:55 PM
just north of usf area lutz right off i275

misfit138
06-27-2010, 09:59 PM
Before you buy any comps, seal and deaden the crap out of your doors. Inside and out. Without that being done, its hard to get good sound.

100% agreement.

Louisiana_CRX
06-27-2010, 10:11 PM
id ctx's will blow both of them away

I've ran all sorts of ID's and they don't touch the DD's

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m24/Louisiana_CRX/Car%20Audio/Speakers/001.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m24/Louisiana_CRX/Car%20Audio/Speakers/004-1.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m24/Louisiana_CRX/Car%20Audio/Speakers/IDsandXXX6500003.jpg

mclerico83
06-27-2010, 10:17 PM
I've ran all sorts of ID's and they don't touch the DD's

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m24/Louisiana_CRX/Car%20Audio/Speakers/001.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m24/Louisiana_CRX/Car%20Audio/Speakers/004-1.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m24/Louisiana_CRX/Car%20Audio/Speakers/IDsandXXX6500003.jpg

i was talking about

CTX65CS - Image Dynamics 6.5" Component Speaker System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p6201/CTX65CS--Image-Dynamics-65"-Component-Speaker-System.htm)

and against the alpines, im not sure about dd components

misfit138
06-27-2010, 10:22 PM
i was talking about

CTX65CS - Image Dynamics 6.5" Component Speaker System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p6201/CTX65CS--Image-Dynamics-65"-Component-Speaker-System.htm)

and against the alpines, im not sure about dd components

Dude, CRX was showing extremely high end stuff there. Any and all of that stuff shits on the CTX65cs, man. Personally, I haven't heard the DD components, but if they're comparable to ID horns and those beefy *** mids, they've gotta be something else.

EDIT:

But even bringing those DD components into the discussion when a guy's asking about $150 components is stupid. It's just an excuse to brag about equipment...

supermaxx123
06-27-2010, 10:35 PM
some really nice sounding mids, that can handle some power/heat.
Usher 8945P 7" Carbon Fiber/Paper Woofer w/Phase Plug | Parts-Express.com (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=296-602)
can also be crossed pretty high.

price is above yours but you'll probably end up changing them out anyways.

supermaxx123
06-27-2010, 10:37 PM
i liked my mb quart pce-216 comp set, they are about $100.

misfit138
06-27-2010, 10:39 PM
I have some brand new, never powered CDT CL-6E mids that I'll sell you for $80 shipped, OP. I can give you links to decent tweets and crossovers too. The whole thing will set you back around $160...

Rich B
06-27-2010, 10:43 PM
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kmanian
06-27-2010, 10:46 PM
diy something like this
https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=45_245_313&products_id=633&osCsid=59ed5f57574d5ec8bfdfa5f848bd9d7e
https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_256&products_id=846

Louisiana_CRX
06-27-2010, 10:47 PM
Dude, CRX was showing extremely high end stuff there. Any and all of that stuff shits on the CTX65cs, man. Personally, I haven't heard the DD components, but if they're comparable to ID horns and those beefy *** mids, they've gotta be something else.

EDIT:

But even bringing those DD components into the discussion when a guy's asking about $150 components is stupid. It's just an excuse to brag about equipment...

the DD tweets won't touch the ID horns...but the midbass from the mids is awesome and everybit as good as the ID's....The tweeters sound very nice as well...comparable to many higher priced componets...The DD set sells for about $150.00 the set I'm refering to...I have ran the set for the longest time now in my Wrangler and i get no complaints from anyone who listens...my set is ran active....... atm

mclerico83
06-27-2010, 10:49 PM
Dude, CRX was showing extremely high end stuff there. Any and all of that stuff shits on the CTX65cs, man. Personally, I haven't heard the DD components, but if they're comparable to ID horns and those beefy *** mids, they've gotta be something else.

EDIT:

But even bringing those DD components into the discussion when a guy's asking about $150 components is stupid. It's just an excuse to brag about equipment...

i was talking about the op with his alpine type r's not crx,

papito
06-27-2010, 11:00 PM
Whats better: JL C2 or Alpine Type R???

Or those MB Quart components Rich B posted?

out of those 3 im buying u guys decide

Louisiana_CRX
06-27-2010, 11:05 PM
Whats better: JL C2 or Alpine Type R???

Or those MB Quart components Rich B posted?

out of those 3 im buying u guys decide

I'd try the MB Quarts.....out of the 3 choices

mclerico83
06-27-2010, 11:06 PM
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mclerico83
06-27-2010, 11:06 PM
I'd try the MB Quarts.....out of the 3 choices

x2

papito
06-27-2010, 11:13 PM
But they can only take 70 watts per side and my amp puts out about 120 per side....I don't want to blow them if i just keep the gain at 1/4 turned up will I be safe?

kmanian
06-27-2010, 11:15 PM
But they can only take 70 watts per side and my amp puts out about 120 per side....I don't want to blow them if i just keep the gain at 1/4 turned up will I be safe?

yes

kmanian
06-27-2010, 11:15 PM
with music they will not see 120 consistantly

KyleBechtold
06-27-2010, 11:16 PM
just north of usf area lutz right off i275
so do I right off livingston.. I am on livingston past 275 past all the hood rats....


the DD tweets won't touch the ID horns...but the midbass from the mids is awesome and everybit as good as the ID's....The tweeters sound very nice as well...comparable to many higher priced componets...The DD set sells for about $150.00 the set I'm refering to...I have ran the set for the longest time now in my Wrangler and i get no complaints from anyone who listens...my set is ran active....... atm

Tried the xs series mids? if so then I might swap to dd mids and the keep the id tweets.

misfit138
06-27-2010, 11:21 PM
The DD set sells for about $150.00 the set I'm refering to

I was only aware of the DD-A, man. I didn't know they had anything budget friendly...

papito
06-27-2010, 11:21 PM
ahhh I think you guys just talked me into those MB Quarts, if I could get a couple more go's on it, I'm getting em' tonight!

misfit138
06-27-2010, 11:23 PM
ahhh I think you guys just talked me into those MB Quarts, if I could get a couple more go's on it, I'm getting em' tonight!

Give them a shot.

Or buy the CDT stuff I mentioned. I'll give you a good deal on those mids. :)

papito
06-27-2010, 11:29 PM
I think I will the reviews seem way more positive then the Alpines.

KyleBechtold
06-27-2010, 11:31 PM
or do those dds?

papito
06-27-2010, 11:36 PM
I dont even know where to buy those?

PHAT BOi
06-27-2010, 11:40 PM
Crescendo Audio :: Component Speaker Systems :: CCX65 (http://www.crescendoaudio.com/product.php?productid=17514&cat=0&page=0&featured=Y)

/thread

misfit138
06-27-2010, 11:45 PM
Crescendo Audio :: Component Speaker Systems :: CCX65 (http://www.crescendoaudio.com/product.php?productid=17514&cat=0&page=0&featured=Y)

/thread

no

misfit138
06-27-2010, 11:47 PM
I dont even know where to buy those?

Digital Designs enjoys making a purchase of their product, or information regarding pricing, extremely difficult for those who don't have a local authorized dealer. :fyi:

It's a part of their mystique... :)

papito
06-27-2010, 11:49 PM
about to order, its between the type R and the MB quarts ... which one?

misfit138
06-27-2010, 11:52 PM
about to order, its between the type R and the MB quarts ... which one?

Type S coaxial

PHAT BOi
06-27-2010, 11:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZCtsnBtsw&feature=related

papito
06-27-2010, 11:55 PM
just ordered the MB quarts , they seem to have alot better reviews so i went for em'

misfit138
06-27-2010, 11:56 PM
just ordered the MB quarts , they seem to have alot better reviews so i went for em'

They'll do alright for you...

KyleBechtold
06-27-2010, 11:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZCtsnBtsw&feature=related

lmao basing how good a comp set is by looks and weight and push terminals.. Lmao will you give me advice on life next..

misfit138
06-27-2010, 11:59 PM
lmao basing how good a comp set is by looks and weight and push terminals.. Lmao will you give me advice on life next..

inorite.

I'd assume they're decent for the price, though. Seriously, they're only $100 shipped...

PHAT BOi
06-28-2010, 12:13 AM
lmao basing how good a comp set is by looks and weight and push terminals.. Lmao will you give me advice on life next..

Life's Short... Don't be a ****!


Was just trying to show him what they look like. I have heard them and they are are crisp, the tweeter is not to bright, and they have decent mid-bass. Obviously this is with the door sealed and deadened properly. Awsome comp set for the price.

misfit138
06-28-2010, 12:15 AM
lmao basing how good a comp set is by looks and weight and push terminals.. Lmao will you give me advice on life next..

Life's Short... Don't be a ****!


Was just trying to show him what they look like. I have heard them and they are are crisp, the tweeter is not to bright, and they have decent mid-bass. Obviously this is with the door sealed and deadened properly. Awsome comp set for the price.

Do you talk about anything else?

PHAT BOi
06-28-2010, 12:20 AM
[QUOTE=PHAT BOi;7159858]

Do you talk about anything else?

What would you like to talk about? It seems to me we are posting in a "Best components under $150?" thread, and seeing as I think the Crescendos are the best comp set for under $150, it would lead me to believe what I am talking about is pertinent to the OP.

misfit138
06-28-2010, 12:23 AM
What would you like to talk about? It seems to me we are posting in a "Best components under $150?" thread, and seeing as I think the Crescendos are the best comp set for under $150, it would lead me to believe what I am talking about is pertinent to the OP.

Nobody gives a **** about on topic discussion, baby...

PHAT BOi
06-28-2010, 12:35 AM
Well alright... I'm new here so thanks for showin me how it's done. I'll be sure to **** all over your next thread like we have done this gentleman's here.

mclerico83
06-28-2010, 12:41 AM
[QUOTE=KyleBechtold;7159740]so do I right off livingston.. I am on livingston past 275 past all the hood rats....


im right by sunrise and livingston

misfit138
06-28-2010, 12:42 AM
Well alright... I'm new here so thanks for showin me how it's done. I'll be sure to **** all over your next thread like we have done this gentleman's here.

I'm responsible for starting less than 10 threads since I joined here. But should I ever decide to start another, feel free to **** on it...

PHAT BOi
06-28-2010, 07:31 AM
I'm responsible for starting less than 10 threads since I joined here. But should I ever decide to start another, feel free to **** on it...

I'll be sure to keep an eye out.

AllenH427
06-28-2010, 12:59 PM
Those MB Quarts look very promising, plus they are even cheaper than the Type Rs and they'll probably sound better too. If those give you trouble or blow, just roll with the Type Xs next.

aardvark
07-04-2010, 01:11 PM
so how'd you like the mb quart's? i'm looking for 6.5" speakers as well....

denj3325
07-17-2010, 02:56 PM
Hey can anyone compare these MB Quarts to the Phoenix Gold rsd65cs

LiveAudio911
07-18-2010, 02:49 AM
well SQ is all subjective, of course i love my focals, but they are the lowest line focal components you can buy i will tell you the same thing anyone else would and that is to go listen to speakers, find out what you like and go with that.. although hearing alpine and SQ in the same sentence is kind of funny

You are so right! It is subjective 100% I think focals are over rated.. for the same price of their lowest set I got the JBL GTI series (Highest model of JBL) for the same price near about and they stomp all the focals I have ever heard..

But that's my subjective opinion..

FlexnInLa
07-19-2010, 07:12 PM
Save up for another week and buy Hybrid Audio Techologies Imagine I61-2. They aren't going anywhere.

Bass911
07-20-2010, 02:22 AM
These are the best for $150 or less hands down!!!!!!!! You will get more than you paid for with these.
Audio Savings | PAIR DB DRIVE PT6.23 3 WAY 6.5" COMPONENT SPEAKERS (http://www.audiosavings.com/products/6.5-and-6.75-Car-Speakers/PAIR-DB-DRIVE-PT6.23-3-WAY-6.5-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS/PT6.23.aspx)

I've had the RSD's. Those Quarts and Type R won't sound better IMO. I've had the R's also.

Bass911
07-20-2010, 02:29 AM
I read the rest of the thread, so I guess it's too late now. I see you ordered the Quarts.

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07-20-2010, 06:08 PM
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dontbeaprix
05-25-2011, 10:37 PM
diy something like this
https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=45_245_313&products_id=633&osCsid=59ed5f57574d5ec8bfdfa5f848bd9d7e
https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_256&products_id=846

what about needing a crossover for this?^^^