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a33bigpapa
06-16-2010, 06:14 PM
I will be replacing the speakers in my new truck (2010 Dodge Ram Crew Cab laramie) and my local audio dealer can get me a good deal on the JL c5 series speakers. What is your take on these speakers. Are they good sound reproducers?

I am also looking at The jl zr series for the front and the c2 series for the rear.

They also, carry Focal and I was looking at the base k2 series with some polyglass for the rear.

What is everyone's take on this?

All help is greatly appreciated.

keep_hope_alive
06-16-2010, 10:21 PM
I've auditioned JL next to Focal - i'd chose JL in the sub $1k category. Focal has some nice speakers above $1k that JL can't match.

a33bigpapa
06-17-2010, 12:41 PM
Thank you for the advice, I really appreciate it.

Does anyone else have any opinion?

emilimo701
06-17-2010, 02:45 PM
I've listened to JL in a local shop blindly, and to my own chagrin they were my favorite sounding speaker there. I forget the model.

The diamonds should be able to handle more power though and seem to get great reviews..

keep_hope_alive
06-17-2010, 10:07 PM
Both the C5 and ZR series by JL are nice.

be careful with mixing front and rear speakers. you'll hear both - so the worse of the two will determine overall sound quality. if you can't afford to get the same front and rear - just look at some midrange only in the rear - bandpassed and delayed if possible.

kevin lu
06-17-2010, 11:26 PM
Polk SR are better than JL stuff,

Polk Audio SR6500 - 6-1/2" Component Systems - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6851_Polk+Audio+SR6500.html)

keep_hope_alive
06-18-2010, 02:17 AM
... if you like ring radiator tweeters...

Bumpin' Goalie
06-18-2010, 02:26 AM
Enjoying my Focal Polyglass's after some EQ'ing, if that helps.

Also like the JL's but would take some Hertz HSK's or Mille's over either. (C5 or Polyglass)

Haven't heard the ZR's outside of a demo wall and don't want to base a decision on something very different than a vehicle environment.

kevin lu
06-18-2010, 02:41 AM
I had a set of Polk SR before and they are bad @ss, the tweeter very smooth, mid range is awesome (fuller sound and airy) mid bass is impact, they are great set of speaker for 5 years, replace them with another great set of speaker (Focal KRX2) hands down.

Bass911
06-19-2010, 03:57 AM
I like Focal, but only your ears can decide. Some people think Jensen sounds just as good as Alpine. I like Rainbow and Boston. I've heard the C2 and C5 and I'm not impressed. I'd get the new Kicker 2 ohm RS65.2 over the JL's. Imo the JL is not even close to Focal.If you can't listen before you buy, its hard to go wrong with Boston, Focal, Hertz, and Rainbow.

keep_hope_alive
06-19-2010, 09:05 AM
Hertz MLK165 is a great speaker to add to the list. Even HSK-165XL

a33bigpapa
06-19-2010, 10:05 AM
I went to my Audio store yesterday to demo the speakers and the JL and Diamonds are definately out. They just didn't have the impact I was hoping for. I did hear the focal polyglass 165v30 and really liked them. I do have a question though, I was comparing these speakers to the focal 165vr and am trying to figure out the difference between them. the v30 has 10watts more power but the vr has a better sensitivity rating.

I will probably end up going with polyglass components up front and polyglass coaxials in the rear. I also auditioned the 165K2p components and I don't know if it was the amp they were powering it with (JL 300/4) or what but they sounded better but not 500 dollars better? Any ideas?

Bass911
06-19-2010, 04:45 PM
I heard the Focal K2p Powers or what ever they're called. They are about $650, ebay prices. They sounded flawless hooked up to an Alpine hu and Audiocontrol Three.1. I always said I wouldn't spend that much on high & mids, but hearing them made me want to do it.

a33bigpapa, Focal will always have a more lively sound than JL and Diamond. People love JL so much, they have no reason to change their product. They don't even care about producing a real SPL sub because too many dummies think their W7 is just as loud as an HCCA, BTL, and HDC3.

keep_hope_alive
06-20-2010, 04:15 AM
buy whatever you like. asking opinions for speakers is usually pointless, unless you're looking for known flaws, failures, etc. your ears should be the final judge. you're looking at nice speakers regardless.

i won't buy JL or Diamond components for my own cars - not my cup of tea. but they are respectable - good build quality.

Focal is a fine company.

kevin lu
06-20-2010, 05:27 PM
Get the KRX2 the search is over, shop around i paid $720 for mine.

a33bigpapa
06-21-2010, 02:18 PM
Also, I was also thinking since I have a crew cab truck, would it sound just as as good to get a little better set for the front and leave the rear set alone. I was thinking maybe a three way component set up front with the stocks out back? Or, is my original idea the better way to go.

a33bigpapa
06-24-2010, 12:32 PM
I like the Focal Polyglass and K2 lines but my dealer also carries Hertz and Audison. Should I wait to listen to the MLK 165 or should I go ahead and get the Focal's. Are the Hertz worth waiting to listen too.

Also, the front soundstage in my truck includes some 3.5 inch speakers in the dash. Would leaving these speakers in place make everything else sound like crap or should I switch them out for some 4 inch coaxials (probably the 4 inch polyglass).

Again any help is appreciated and thanks everyone for all your helpful comments. I really appreciate it.

Bumpin' Goalie
06-24-2010, 12:43 PM
Yes listen to the Hertz. The HSK is one of my favorite speakers. The MLK are nice as well, though more money for a small step up imho.

Great response, realistic replication, smooth midrange.

Wingman0121
06-24-2010, 12:48 PM
Morel and Dynaudio both sells 2-way and 3-way comp sets, they're one of the best in the business.

a33bigpapa
06-24-2010, 12:54 PM
I would like to audition those but my dealer doesn't carry those.

a33bigpapa
06-25-2010, 11:36 PM
I talked to my dealer again and he had a set of 165K2P that he said he could get for me at a price I couldn't pass up. So I told him to order them. NOw I need an amp to power them. Would a JL 300/2 be too much power or would that be a good amp for them. If their is another amp I should look at from the above listed companies, please list it.

emilimo701
06-26-2010, 05:42 PM
Would a JL 300/2 be too much power

no

also maybe check out the diamond D6 series amps