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JDennis
06-16-2010, 04:48 AM
Hello. I recently upgraded my car audio system. I installed a Powerbass ASA 600.4 to power a Cerwin Vega 10" Vega subwoofer and an Infinity Reference 6030CS component speakers. I also replaced my head unit with an Alpine 9886 with the Imprint Module PXA H100. I noticed the highs on the Infinty Reference too bright/harsh. When I try to reduce it on the Imprint module equalizer, the mid/voice is reduced as well. Overall, I am not quite satisfied with the sound. I am also finding it hard to adjust the sound imaging. I can't seem to get the correct staging. I am having a hard time aligning it to the center with the Time Alignment function of the Imprint module.

I was looking at Focal 165 V30 Polyglass and a Crescendo Opus 5 or Opus 8.6. Would you guys recommend this for SQ setup? I listen to mostly jazz/vocals, acoustic and instrumental music.

Thanks and cheers.

JDennis

keep_hope_alive
06-16-2010, 08:53 AM
i think the Focal Polyglass is just as bright as the Reference, but still a better speaker.

getting the proper sound stage requires that speakers be in proper locations. you can't use factory locations, buy a processor, and expect a properly balanced sound stage. mids in doors are awful for a good sound stage, IMO.

it sounds like you're mostly having issues using Imprint. Did you use the tuning kit to let it work it's own magic? What EQ adjustments are you making?

read this manual (the advanced section on sound stage):
http://www.hybrid-audio.com/Clarus_Master_Manual_Final.pdf

and consider the HAT Imagine I61-2 speaker system if the Clarus is out of your budget.

JDennis
06-16-2010, 11:58 AM
i think the Focal Polyglass is just as bright as the Reference, but still a better speaker.

getting the proper sound stage requires that speakers be in proper locations. you can't use factory locations, buy a processor, and expect a properly balanced sound stage. mids in doors are awful for a good sound stage, IMO.

I forgot to mention, I drive a Japanese made Mistubishi Pajero SUV (Monetero in the USA) and had a tweeter pillar mount made but mids are still in the stock door panel position.


it sounds like you're mostly having issues using Imprint. Did you use the tuning kit to let it work it's own magic? What EQ adjustments are you making?

Right now, I am on a flat setting except for the high band which is on -5 and still bright. I have been trying to have it tuned using the kit but unfortunately, most shops run out of it. I even wanted to buy it but was advice against doing so since it will be used once only. I heard there are shops offering tuning services using the kit for a fee. I still need to find that shop. You see, I am from the Philippines and our resources are quite limited here.



and consider the HAT Imagine I61-2 speaker system if the Clarus is out of your budget.

Looks very interesting...but looks expensive too. I doubt it if it's even available here in the Philippines. Again, I will have to check. Very interesting read on the manual you linked. Any more speaker suggestions other than Clarus?

Mattd0344
06-16-2010, 12:10 PM
Depending on what type of budget you have, these seem to be a good bang for your buck...

Crescendo Audio :: Component Speaker Systems :: CCX65 (http://www.crescendoaudio.com/product.php?productid=17514&cat=0&page=0&featured=Y)

JDennis
06-16-2010, 12:34 PM
Depending on what type of budget you have, these seem to be a good bang for your buck...

Crescendo Audio :: Component Speaker Systems :: CCX65 (http://www.crescendoaudio.com/product.php?productid=17514&cat=0&page=0&featured=Y)

I mentioned in my first post that I was looking at Focal 165 V30 Polyglass and a Crescendo Opus 5 or Opus 8.6. They are in the $450-500 value. I might just spend no more than that amount. I just learned that Clarus is in the same level as far as the price is concerned. If only I can find a dealer locally. :)

keep_hope_alive
06-16-2010, 03:40 PM
The HAT Imagine are $200 USD and Clarus are $519 USD. Call HAT and order the speakers directly from Scott (founder/owner). He will ship them to your door.

Buy the Imprint tuning kit and rent it out to people to make your money back. Or buy it then sell it. But i think having the kit will be helpful, whenever you make a gear change, you'll want to run the kit again.

Sometimes you can't EQ out a "bright" tweeter. is it bright from every seat?

reconize that just having apillar placement isn't enough. they need to be properly located and aimed - based on the vehicle and the tweeter.

JDennis
06-16-2010, 11:38 PM
The HAT Imagine are $200 USD and Clarus are $519 USD. Call HAT and order the speakers directly from Scott (founder/owner). He will ship them to your door.

Buy the Imprint tuning kit and rent it out to people to make your money back. Or buy it then sell it. But i think having the kit will be helpful, whenever you make a gear change, you'll want to run the kit again.

Sometimes you can't EQ out a "bright" tweeter. is it bright from every seat?

reconize that just having apillar placement isn't enough. they need to be properly located and aimed - based on the vehicle and the tweeter.

My tweeters are aimed off axis (rear view mirror). The tweeter pod can be adjusted and we've tried all possible angles. No dice..and yes, it is bright from all seats.

I wish I can call HAT and just order it but I am from the Philippines and I bet the shipping might cost more than the speakers itself. :) I am searching for a local Clarus dealer. I'll check if I can audition one. I am actually leaning towards Clarus.

Thanks again for your input.

keep_hope_alive
06-17-2010, 07:30 PM
call Scott and at least discuss it with him. He is the only one who can tell you if there is a local dealer. He's a super nice guy. Tell him Richard V. sent you.

JDennis
06-17-2010, 08:34 PM
call Scott and at least discuss it with him. He is the only one who can tell you if there is a local dealer. He's a super nice guy. Tell him Richard V. sent you.

I was able to find a local HAT dealer but the Clarus is way over priced at $602. They also have the Legatias which I didn't even bother asking how much. :(
I might just call Scott soon and ask if he can accommodate shipping here in the Philippines without charging me an arm and a leg. If not, I'd look at other options like Crescendo Opus 8.6 or the Focal 156V30.

Btw, do you have Scott's direct line? You can just PM it to me. Thanks much, again.

Cheers.

keep_hope_alive
06-17-2010, 10:43 PM
you can contact him via their website. start by sending him an email explaining your situation.

their price might reflect shipping costs, or maybe Scott needs to know.