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KyleHarty
05-02-2010, 07:18 PM
I'm considering staining the inside of a sealed box; is the stain safe for the surround and cone of the sub? The sub is an '05 XXX, appears to be rubber surround paper cone.

mossberg385t
05-02-2010, 07:29 PM
any purpose to staining something that won't be seen?

KyleHarty
05-02-2010, 07:34 PM
I'm planning on using plexi so the inside will be visible. A buddy gave me a 2'x4' piece of 1" acrylic so I gotta try to use it! :) Was thinking about painting but figure if I could stain a decent color match to the factory woodgrain inside the car it'd be a little more unique.

iamamp3pimp
05-02-2010, 09:04 PM
thatd be real sick actually.

if it were me, i'd allow it to cure first, but i think that it would be just fine.

KyleHarty
05-03-2010, 01:14 AM
thatd be real sick actually.

if it were me, i'd allow it to cure first, but i think that it would be just fine.

For sure, I'd give it some time to cure before installing. I've got a picture in my head of the inside of the box and trim pieces around the amps stained to match the factory wood that would look good. I've never had to make the inside of a box look good so I'm not 100% sure I can pull it off but I think it's worth a shot. Just wanted to make sure the vapors from the stain wouldn't degrade the soft parts of the sub before I go too far with the plan.

rumple4skin
05-03-2010, 01:17 AM
depends on what stain your using but i think(not sure) that it is corrosive and with the amount of displacement the xxx has i bet you end up loosing the surround

nateberrier
05-03-2010, 01:24 AM
depends on what stain your using but i think(not sure) that it is corrosive and with the amount of displacement the xxx has i bet you end up loosing the surround

i would worry about that a little but if you let it cure for a day or two and let it catch some wind it would be fine. i would be worried more if he were using laquer. either way when you stain or laquer furniture it doesnt give off fumes after a couple of days. so like was said before just let it cure long enough

mossberg385t
05-03-2010, 01:36 AM
I'm planning on using plexi so the inside will be visible. A buddy gave me a 2'x4' piece of 1" acrylic so I gotta try to use it! :) Was thinking about painting but figure if I could stain a decent color match to the factory woodgrain inside the car it'd be a little more unique.

Thats worth a few hundred $$ :fyi: used to sell this and store cost of a 4x8 of 1/4" was ~$165 id imagine 1" would be in the neighborhood of 1400 also it depends on what stain you get, ask for low or no VOC (volatile organic compound) stain and you will have no volatile chemicals to worry about also it might seem weird because it wont smell like anything when you apply it.

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i would worry about that a little but if you let it cure for a day or two and let it catch some wind it would be fine. i would be worried more if he were using laquer. either way when you stain or laquer furniture it doesnt give off fumes after a couple of days. so like was said before just let it cure long enough

not necessarily, also stain is more volatile than laquer it just depends on the compound and chemical composition of the item in question.

nateberrier
05-03-2010, 01:39 AM
Thats worth a few hundred $$ :fyi: also it depends on what stain you get, ask for low or no VOC (volatile organic compound) stain and you will have no volatile chemicals to worry about also it might seem weird because it wont smell like anything when you apply it

^^^ worked at a hardware for like two years, kid knows more about making bombs out of household chemicals than a terrorist

KyleHarty
05-03-2010, 03:07 AM
Thats worth a few hundred $$ :fyi: used to sell this and store cost of a 4x8 of 1/4" was ~$165 id imagine 1" would be in the neighborhood of 1400 also it depends on what stain you get, ask for low or no VOC (volatile organic compound) stain and you will have no volatile chemicals to worry about also it might seem weird because it wont smell like anything when you apply it.

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not necessarily, also stain is more volatile than laquer it just depends on the compound and chemical composition of the item in question.

Right! There's no way I'd be doing the plexi if I was paying for it, it was a scrap from a construction job he had sitting in the garage so I couldn't say no. :D I'll have check into the stain a little more, someone had used a shade of Minwax polyshade with a couple coats of polyurethane and matched the wood in these cars for an interior piece, I'll have to look into how volatile that would be. I'll go to plan B if there's a chance of messing up the sub.

outsideshot23
05-03-2010, 05:29 AM
^^^ worked at a hardware for like two years, kid knows more about making bombs out of household chemicals than a terrorist

not to be a **** but if you have ever taken a college level micro course you can make biological weapons which are 16x more potent and i believe the cost to cover a square mile with chemical weapons was along the lines of 2k$ and to do it with bios was 1$.. just a fun fact.. not a terrorist btw... just got stuck taking ridiculous chemistry and biology classes for my major.. lol

Ali1
05-03-2010, 07:27 AM
stain the outside :

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/ali3596/S6001571.jpg

team50boom
05-03-2010, 07:48 AM
im a painter. and id say if you want to go with the stain do these steps. stain let dry put a coat of polyuerthane let dry. sand down the another coat of poly let dry sand and then a final coat of poly. it will make it look nice.

mossberg385t
05-03-2010, 11:30 AM
not to be a **** but if you have ever taken a college level micro course you can make biological weapons which are 16x more potent and i believe the cost to cover a square mile with chemical weapons was along the lines of 2k$ and to do it with bios was 1$.. just a fun fact.. not a terrorist btw... just got stuck taking ridiculous chemistry and biology classes for my major.. lol

Not to be a **** but I was a chemical engineering student, I just recently switched majors to architecture, and I have indeed taken a college level micro course. Take thermonuclear physics then come back and talk to me. I still carry my nuclear physics minor :fyi:

Thats a pretty sweet box, not sure i like the stain on mdf but thats a personal opinion, I like to see wood grain. I agree with team50boom poly will make it look nicer, and im pretty sure its not volatile.

Ali1
05-03-2010, 11:36 AM
Not to be a **** but I was a chemical engineering student, I just recently switched majors to architecture, and I have indeed taken a college level micro course. Take thermonuclear physics then come back and talk to me. I still carry my nuclear physics minor :fyi:

Thats a pretty sweet box, not sure i like the stain on mdf but thats a personal opinion, I like to see wood grain. I agree with team50boom poly will make it look nicer, and im pretty sure its not volatile.


Not mdf.... take another guess

QuikSilverRS91
05-03-2010, 12:57 PM
Not to be a **** but I was a chemical engineering student, I just recently switched majors to architecture, and I have indeed taken a college level micro course. Take thermonuclear physics then come back and talk to me. I still carry my nuclear physics minor :fyi:

Thats a pretty sweet box, not sure i like the stain on mdf but thats a personal opinion, I like to see wood grain. I agree with team50boom poly will make it look nicer, and im pretty sure its not volatile.

Don't get high and mighty because you took an upper level physics course. You're not special. Did your professor teach you how to make a dirty bomb for only $500? Jesus. Everyone is always out to one-up each other.

mlstrass
05-03-2010, 02:24 PM
as mentioned will need a few coats of poly to make it look good.

colored stains are waterbased if you're going that route...

mossberg385t
05-03-2010, 02:42 PM
Not mdf.... take another guess

****


Don't get high and mighty because you took an upper level physics course. You're not special. Did your professor teach you how to make a dirty bomb for only $500? Jesus. Everyone is always out to one-up each other.

I respect your opinion, my professors were more into teaching us how drugs works and how to make them.... always wondered about the synthesis labs lol
i switched majors because chemE is widely considered the hardest major at UC... ***** big floppy donkey diick

O.G. D-Wet
05-03-2010, 02:44 PM
Not mdf.... take another guess

bamboo?

on1wheel01
05-03-2010, 02:46 PM
Im gonna guess it's birch. Birch is stronger and more dense

QuikSilverRS91
05-03-2010, 04:32 PM
****



I respect your opinion, my professors were more into teaching us how drugs works and how to make them.... always wondered about the synthesis labs lol
i switched majors because chemE is widely considered the hardest major at UC... ***** big floppy donkey diick

I started as EE at Cal Poly SLO... you honestly couldn't pay me to go to the UC system. I had many friends go through UC and they all hated it. The cost, compared to the Cal States, was just ridiculous. At the same time the prestige isn't too bad, a couple of my buddies got into Med school pretty easily where I'm sure a Cal State degree wouldn't have looked as good. Where are you studying architecture? SLO had an amazing arch department.

KyleHarty
05-04-2010, 01:46 AM
as mentioned will need a few coats of poly to make it look good.

colored stains are waterbased if you're going that route...

So the colored stains wouldn't be a problem for the speaker? I know nothing about stains so forgive my ignorance! :)

I picked up some 11-ply birch earlier, gonna get the box started and figure the finish out from there.