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randpost
04-10-2010, 02:57 AM
So I received a few things in the mail for my new build.
will start by showing some of the things I received. Still missing my HO Alt and my substage amp.


-Posts and terminals.
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0688.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0691.jpg

-Wires and Fuses.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0695.jpg

- 1 of 3 batteries. All 1400's and 1 is a 1400r for under the hood. Need the reversed terminals.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0694.jpg

-Woofers DC XL 15's

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0703.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0705.jpg

First day install picks. This is one of my first builds, so suggestions are welcome :D

-Support beams for the floor board

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0700.jpg

- Board on top of beams with box stop at end

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0709.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0710.jpg

randpost
04-10-2010, 02:58 AM
-Box loading and woofer predrilling

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0711.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0712.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0713.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0715.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0716.jpg

-Box Loaded

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0717.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0718-1.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0719.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0720.jpg

randpost
04-10-2010, 02:58 AM
-Hood battery installed plus under hood wires ran.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0721.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0722.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0723.jpg

The blue runs of Scoshe 0 gauge are from last install. Tripling the existing runs of 0 gauge with knu wire ( red and black). Including engine-chassis, BatteryNEG-chassis, and Alt-BatteryPOS along with a triple run to the rear hatch. Better to over do it than under do it right?

More pics tomorrow after i carpet the floor board and install a few more runs of 0 gauge to rear cabin.

*** Not sure what kind of bit to use to drill thru my firewall. Need to fit 3 runs of 0 gauge. I could barely fit 1 - 0gauge through my main grommet so adding 2 more runs is out of the question. I guess the hole only has to fit 2 runs, since I'm too lazy to rerun the existing cable.

*** Under the engine bay is a plastic shield that runs from the bumper all the way to the firewall except for a few spots. I have like 8 bolts and a wrench down there somewhere. Just thought I would share that :D Since I will be removing the shied to change the Alternator, I will just wait to retrieve my lost items.

lil98cabrio
04-11-2010, 03:35 PM
very nicee!!!

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:01 AM
BOX Build Pics :

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc01.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc02.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc03.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc04.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc05.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc06.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc07.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc08.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc09.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc10.jpg

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:02 AM
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc11.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc12.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/dc15.jpg

hatedonmostly
04-12-2010, 02:05 AM
When I saw that box, I came. Hope that port has enough room to fire though. :crap:

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:05 AM
Head Unit
-Tons of saw dust and stuff all over the car. haven't cleaned it out yet.-


http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0724.jpg

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:07 AM
Door Comps Type R ( got a good deal on CL) not the best, but good enough for now. loud enough.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0725.jpg

Bumpin' Goalie
04-12-2010, 02:08 AM
Looks clean. I'm thinking the XD is in for a little flex ha. As for adding the 2 extra runs, don't leave them just in a hole :) please grommet it. (I'm sure you know, just double checking.)

Keep up the good work and I hope you are reunited with your wrench soon.

Bumpin' Goalie
04-12-2010, 02:10 AM
When I saw that box, I came. Hope that port has enough room to fire though. :crap:

That was my first thought. But since it's already built, the best way to find out is 1st hand :)

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:11 AM
I plan on making a video tomorrow of the sound the box produces. Sounds good. Subs only have about 5 1/2 - 6 inches of room to fire. Not much room I know, but I can live with it.

I'll get a better angle for a picture to show space between hatch and port.

hatedonmostly
04-12-2010, 02:12 AM
Wait, are those rear seats going to stay removed?

Go2Sleep
04-12-2010, 02:13 AM
very nice work..
love that box

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:17 AM
I actually just ran the wires under the car this time along with the other brick of wires under the car. Didn't drill a hole, just removed the cap to the spare tire hole in the hatch area ( where the spare screws in) and ran my wires there. was enough for 3 0 gauge wires. Used a racket ball as a grommet. Worked perfectly. Alot of people say I shouldnt run wires under the car, but I really cant see a reason why not. All the wires are secure.

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:20 AM
I don't plan on putting the rear seats back in. I have a family car with plenty of seats. I just need the one passenger seat to demo :D

Bumpin' Goalie
04-12-2010, 02:24 AM
I actually just ran the wires under the car this time along with the other brick of wires under the car. Didn't drill a hole, just removed the cap to the spare tire hole in the hatch area ( where the spare screws in) and ran my wires there. was enough for 3 0 gauge wires. Used a racket ball as a grommet. Worked perfectly. Alot of people say I shouldnt run wires under the car, but I really cant see a reason why not. All the wires are secure.

If they are exposed, I use cheap plastic wire loom. Just a little reassurance. But sounds workable. And should be an impressive result. Gotta love little cars for shock n' awe.

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:27 AM
I still need to build a amp/ battery rack for my component amp and my rear batteries. I have everything hooked up to test the audio.
Here are some pics of my Sub amp mounting and my rear floor carpeted.

Carpeting

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0727.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0728.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0726.jpg

Shot of the rear window clearance ( still need to put my rear hatch panel back on)


http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0734.jpg

Sub amp mounting (the sub amp is mounted on a board attached to my false floor and not to the actual sub enclosure.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0736.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0731.jpg

hatedonmostly
04-12-2010, 02:28 AM
I don't plan on putting the rear seats back in. I have a family car with plenty of seats. I just need the one passenger seat to demo :D

Oh, then you would be fine. I couldn't tell if that box would fit behind the rear seats or not.

hatedonmostly
04-12-2010, 02:29 AM
If they are exposed, I use cheap plastic wire loom. Just a little reassurance. But sounds workable. And should be an impressive result. Gotta love little cars for shock n' awe.

Like mine. ;)

Bumpin' Goalie
04-12-2010, 02:30 AM
My rear hatch panel has been off for almost 2 years...lol...

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:36 AM
Pics of my batteries and wires before amp rack (I should say table) and wire management.
Basically I plan on making a carpeted box table that will stretch the length of area I have to work with holes on the surface so I can run wire through and hide the brunt of them within the box table. the batteries will be recessed into the table. I might invert the subs just to see how it sounds for fun and I really like how the subs look. very shiny. I have always been curious as to how it sounds though. Anyway, I was curious to see if all my stuff worked.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0729.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0730.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0731.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0732.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0733.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0735.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0736.jpg

It was late and dark outside, so the pictures arent the greatest plus my car is dirty atm. will get some better pics tomorrow.

randpost
04-12-2010, 02:41 AM
BTW, I was a bit skeptical as to the performance of the AP30001D before I received it, but **** the amp is beast. I currently have the amp running 2 ohm bridged. Plan on going 1 ohm when I build my rack and run better speaker wire.

Ridintwo6s
04-12-2010, 03:02 AM
I actually just ran the wires under the car this time along with the other brick of wires under the car. Didn't drill a hole, just removed the cap to the spare tire hole in the hatch area ( where the spare screws in) and ran my wires there. was enough for 3 0 gauge wires. Used a racket ball as a grommet. Worked perfectly. Alot of people say I shouldnt run wires under the car, but I really cant see a reason why not. All the wires are secure.

zip ties are definately your friend.

and as far as the ap 3000. get another one, your subs will love you.

randpost
04-12-2010, 04:26 AM
zip ties are definately your friend.

and as far as the ap 3000. get another one, your subs will love you.

Used about 16 zip ties and and some thick coated garbage ties every time I used a zip tie. zip ties get brittle and brake especially in AZ's dry weather. The garbage ties don't. A little bit of reassurance.

I went over kill with my electrical so I could add a second AP30001D. Didn't want to run wires again... EVER. I'll let my subs break in on the one AP for a few weeks and let my bank account take a breather. Will probably extend the box stopper board I have my current AP on and mount it above. Going to invert my subs tomorrow since I'm going to change out the 10 gauge speaker wire for some 8 gauge power wire (Not Knu). It's undersized power wire and should do the trick. Knu 8 gauge was too large for the push terminals on the subs.

I just want to hear the subs inverted, I don't think I'm willing to give up my rear view though, even if I like it inverted.

Pictures below are of my left overs- I wasn't very efficient in ordering wires and parts :(

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0747.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0739.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0738.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0737.jpg

Ridintwo6s
04-12-2010, 04:54 AM
pming you about left overs ...

HighTQCummins
04-12-2010, 10:58 AM
Nice build, small car for that much beat but hey, like stated before, nothing like a small car for shock and awe.

btw, since they are leftovers and you don't care about them, I can pm u an address that will take care of your trash in an environmentally friendly way, specifically 0ga, fuseholders/fuses, and dynamat

thericanballer
04-12-2010, 08:18 PM
awesome.

DB-Audio
04-12-2010, 11:18 PM
nice job man came out great any vids yet?

basscort2009
04-12-2010, 11:21 PM
im building a similar car. scion xa. level 5 18 and 3k. waiting for some numbers to see how loud these cars get. let me know when ya meter this thing. would like to see some 150s outta these things :D

302yota
04-12-2010, 11:36 PM
def can't tell its one of your first builds....box looks great....these scions get loud....i had a boy demo his scion XD with 2 dd9518's in a DD box (which looked a lil on the small side to me, but i'm sure it was built to specs), he was breaking them in off of 1 sundown 4500...(i'm not sure how much power he was actually sendin them, but he was hittin 148's)....he said once they broke in, he was gonna run another SA4500....it was pretty dang loud, he broke a crossmember in his roof, so the flex was even worse than normal.....

302yota
04-12-2010, 11:40 PM
here's a pic of the setup i was talkin bout....he was runnin the blue carbon fiber DD9518's
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/chrisparsons09/0115001931.jpg

randpost
04-13-2010, 12:01 AM
Made my amp rack and battery rack. cleaned up all the wiring. Looks much cleaner now.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0759.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0757.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0755.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0754.jpg


Port firing area a bit small :(
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0749.jpg

randpost
04-13-2010, 12:04 AM
here's a pic of the setup i was talkin bout....he was runnin the blue carbon fiber DD9518's
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/chrisparsons09/0115001931.jpg

Looks so similar. Where does the port fire in that box?

randpost
04-13-2010, 12:07 AM
BEFORE:

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0732.jpg

AFTER:

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/randpost/DSCN0757.jpg

302yota
04-13-2010, 12:14 AM
the port was firing where the driver's side rear door was....bad placement i would think....i told him he should try subs up port firing at the hatch, but with the box being from DD, he probably thought he had the best he could get

hatedonmostly
04-13-2010, 12:22 AM
Dude idk man, red and blue wire used together is an eyesore for me :( I don't care for the electrical tape either, should have used shrink wrap. Sorry if I'm being nitpicky :crap:

You should get rid of that Scoshe under the hood and replace it with the Knu, at the least.

randpost
04-13-2010, 12:48 AM
Dude idk man, red and blue wire used together is an eyesore for me :( I don't care for the electrical tape either, should have used shrink wrap. Sorry if I'm being nitpicky :crap:

You should get rid of that Scoshe under the hood and replace it with the Knu, at the least.

It's okay. I understand.

I kept the scoshe under the hood and added new runs of Knu. The scoshe wire isnt bad, and I was too lazy to pull it out of the main grommet (would require me to remove my whole dash again). Not worth the removal in my opinion.

I ordered some shrink wrap and should be here in a few days (black). the electrical tape is serving a purpose till then. As for colors, I will go black on the speaker wire, but only had the 2 colors of RAS 8 gauge on hand. Tried to use all red, but came up short on cable length. I'm in no rush now, since everything is fairly tidy now. Will slowly get around to the finishing touches.

As for the red and blue of the power lines to the batteries, I think those will stay. I don't mind the colors, perhaps because I can't see them from where I sit :D

hatedonmostly
04-13-2010, 12:58 AM
It's okay. I understand.

I kept the scoshe under the hood and added new runs of Knu. The scoshe wire isnt bad, and I was too lazy to pull it out of the main grommet (would require me to remove my whole dash again). Not worth the removal in my opinion.

I ordered some shrink wrap and should be here in a few days (black). the electrical tape is serving a purpose till then. As for colors, I will go black on the speaker wire, but only had the 2 colors of RAS 8 gauge on hand. Tried to use all red, but came up short on cable length. I'm in no rush now, since everything is fairly tidy now. Will slowly get around to the finishing touches.

As for the red and blue of the power lines to the batteries, I think those will stay. I don't mind the colors, perhaps because I can't see them from where I sit :D

It's alright, I'll redo those wires for you, just need your amazing skills to carpet somethings for me. :D Haha

randpost
04-13-2010, 01:03 AM
It's alright, I'll redo those wires for you, just need your amazing skills to carpet somethings for me. :D Haha

hehe.

randpost
04-13-2010, 02:08 AM
Having a problem with my setup.

Even with one layer of dynamat extreme on the roof of my car, turning up the volume causes violent thumping sounds. Like a guerrilla is punching my roof. I cant add another layer without some trouble reapplying my roof panel. Any other product on the market as thin as dynamat that might work better? No I don't want to add a layer of MDF to my roof...

randpost
04-13-2010, 02:15 AM
the port was firing where the driver's side rear door was....bad placement i would think....i told him he should try subs up port firing at the hatch, but with the box being from DD, he probably thought he had the best he could get

Port firing forward makes sense. More room for the port to fire into the cabin. I bet it sounds good.

I thought I might have trouble with my port firing towards the rear, but it turned out to be perfect spacing and the way the rear hatch angles when closed just helps the air flow.

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What did your friend do about the roof troubles? I'm having a bit of roof trouble too. with the rear hatch closed I can bounce my phone 3 ft in the air. That flex cant be good for the roof. Starting to see ripples in the metal on the edges of the main sheet of metal. :(

BigSix
04-13-2010, 11:33 AM
love the box and the carpet job

302yota
04-13-2010, 11:34 AM
i'm not too sure what he ever done about his roof, i just know it looked like paper flexing up there....lol.....and i've always heared that the port's loading off of the hatch works the best (his was firing to the side), not a good direction imo...

Bumpin' Goalie
04-13-2010, 11:42 AM
Flex is a b!tch to reduce in that degree. Going to have to absorb/reflect as much of that energy as you can. Reinforcement will be key. I suggest carpeted mdf in place of the headliner with nice amounts of deadener and expandable foam in between the mdf and the sheet metal. Roof's are no fun to work on.

randpost
04-18-2010, 02:57 PM
****** quality, but thats all I have for a camera. Doesn't even show half the flex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGYgM-Hm-bc

Mookie
04-18-2010, 03:02 PM
Wanginn..

amp roach
04-18-2010, 10:07 PM
nice build. I own an 08 xB myself and my 12" type R rattles the **** out of my car lol. Hope you have plenty of sound deadener. After seeing your detail on everything else I'm sure you do. So are you basically listening to only your front two speakers or are you using the back two as well?

randpost
04-18-2010, 11:37 PM
i put 2 6.5 type R component sets. 1 in front and 1 in back. so 4 tweets and 4 6.5's. I listen to them all. The type R's get loud, but they cant keep up with the substage.

amp roach
04-19-2010, 04:44 PM
Yeah no kidding. It must be a luxury to use the backseat leg space for your amps and batts

luv2shrOOm
04-23-2010, 04:09 AM
nice box, i want one when i get my xl 18"s, i wanna hear it ...

randpost
04-27-2010, 05:41 PM
So after a few weeks with the system installed and multiple layers of deadener, I've decided to sell the the amp box and woofers. The bass is just too much for the tiny car. My rear windshield wiper snapped off....

Will be posting the amp, 2 subs and box plus 50+ ft of 0 gauge KnuKoncept and 2 - 0 gauge KnuKoncept inline fuses for $1k local. Still have system installed to demo. Going with a couple 10 inch DD's instead.

select127
04-27-2010, 10:45 PM
what was the dimensions of that box?

randpost
04-28-2010, 12:29 AM
36x36x20H

KyleBechtold
04-28-2010, 12:46 AM
if you end up wanting to sell the subs on here pm me please.. don't need anything else.. might consider the amp if you throw it in for a decent combo price..

Maxipads
04-28-2010, 02:04 AM
Are tose Type R components any good?? i can get some for like 15 from my friends hes selling his car and wants em gone..

randpost
04-28-2010, 04:30 AM
The tweets are loud and clear. the door woofers are good, but are easily drowned out by my subs. I think that's pretty much any door woofers anywhere near the price range or the type R's. I don't regret picking them up.

O.G. D-Wet
04-28-2010, 04:50 AM
not tryn to bash ur box or anything, (cuz i think it's a fineass piece of work), but if u rebuild the box u shudnt do dual chamber... Idk if it's a myth or not but I've always heard that a shared chamber can add up to like 1-3 dB!!!

mbrooky
05-01-2010, 03:53 AM
Nice flex mane!

Ali1
05-05-2010, 03:25 PM
kudos to you! nice install

btw, that battery looks like it's going through surgery...

randpost
05-07-2010, 04:40 PM
heh, the battery does look kind of crazy. I bought a couple of copper plates for the front battery, but decided to go with the extra posts and the quad terminals.