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UpGradde
03-24-2010, 11:00 PM
Whats up yall. Started the box about 2 days ago, still need about another 2 days to finish everything. Its been raining but it'll be gone by tomorrow. This is my first 4th order enclosure, although I have built countless sealed and ported boxes. I am trying to keep this system lightweight, while still being somewhat loud. I had 2 Fi btls before but it was just too much weight for my car.

4th order is 1 cu.ft for the sealed chamber and 1.8 cu.ft for the vented chamber after sub and port displacement. It is tuned to ~43hz. 2 4" aeros. It is ported into the cabin via the rear seat armrest. Wat?

Build consists of:

112 sq ft. of Dynacrap Xtreme
Pioneer AVH-P5100DVD
Arc Audio KS300.4
Hertz HSK 165 comps(newest model)
RE AX3200DE
TC Sounds Axis Neo 12
XS Power D2400 / Oznium interior & exterior lighting
Big 3 / All Knukonceptz wiring/rcas even the godam remote wire


PICSHURES:

The Car
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6434/img10702.jpg
House of Kolor Kandy Orange with a silver base
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5589/1003782small.jpg
Inside the outdated 1991 M
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7091/img1689small.jpg
Seats out of a 03 G35
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2936/img1685small.jpg
Dynacrap every where.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3128/1111081206small.jpg
Even the roof
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7358/1002674large.jpg
My new Comps
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3510/img0838small.jpg
Mids sealed like a muther****er
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4766/img1551small.jpg
Crossover
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/590/img1555csmall.jpg
A pillars gettin ready for paint and tweets
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3764/img0849medium.jpg

UpGradde
03-24-2010, 11:01 PM
Tweets on the A pillars
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6687/img0864medium.jpg
Custom switches for lights, rad fan, and kill switch for bass amp.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5898/1004815small.jpg
Done, pasted with loctite superglue found at the Home depot
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5359/1004821small.jpg
What the hell, it turned blue!
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/892/img0398smally.jpg
RE AX3200DE with plexi back cover
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/249/img1209small.jpg
Se
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7721/img1201small.jpg
Xy
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5394/img1205small.jpg
Arc Audio KS300.4
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3220/img1505smallv.jpg
Guts and fans
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8783/img1497small.jpg
Gizmos and turbo switches galore.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1903/img0883medium.jpg

UpGradde
03-24-2010, 11:02 PM
My truck carrying a sheet of birch like it was a ****en paper clip.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3663/0310101525.jpg
The lightweight Beast
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9320/img1077small.jpg
10" spiders
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5616/img1093small.jpg
Hello, I'm Mr. Bass, how can I help you?
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6910/img1212small.jpg
Cuttin the birch, tablesaw isnt pictured because its on tha flo.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9841/img1166small.jpg
Sealin the godamm trunk off, makin my angled cuts and thangs.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2033/img1177small.jpg
Aero Baffle
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9972/img1180small.jpg
4th order gettin built.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3791/img1174small.jpg
Holes cut for Aeros
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2329/img1219small.jpg
Test fit
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7654/img1226small.jpg

UpGradde
03-24-2010, 11:02 PM
painting the port baffle
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2286/img1185small.jpg
painted and weater stripped
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2267/img1186smalle.jpg
Would you look at that, it is basically sealed
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3567/img1194small.jpg
testing the tubes, just for ****ing sakes
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/961/img1193small.jpg
There she is, saying look at my titanium cone. U dont want this.
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7179/img1229small.jpg
Bit of cement for the aeros.
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3397/img1230small.jpg
This stuff stanks
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2074/img1237small.jpg
Cement applied, even got my mirror to check around that hoe 360.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4926/img1251small.jpg
Ported chamber, threw in a led for red death ports
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7413/img1254small.jpg
Sealed chamber.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2942/img1256small.jpg

UpGradde
03-24-2010, 11:03 PM
Now all I need is to line em up.
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1268/img1261small.jpg
There it is wow
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/200/img1263small.jpg
Carpeted the box with carpet from PE
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9387/img1265small.jpg
Creating the amp rack with the jig.
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4258/img1267small.jpg
Made from 1/2" Birch
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8324/img1269small.jpg
Getting ready to carpet
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5464/img1271small.jpg
Done
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1301/img1272small.jpg
Test fitting the Re ax3200de
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7650/img1274small.jpg
Threw in an Antec 3 speed switch fan to expell that hot air
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4600/img1276small.jpg
Test fit.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6668/img1280small.jpg
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And thats it for now. It got dark on me. Tomorrow, I wire everything up and do some light testing. Hope

you guys enjoyed watching all these pics, it was hell to get em up here. Comments, critisism, opinions

are all welcome!

Edward

Bumpin' Goalie
03-24-2010, 11:11 PM
I like it. Kinda off topic...but i have an almost identical toggle bank in my dash ha. Except mine are 2 volt meters, and then fan. the mono killswitch is hidden.

I like the equipment and the willingness to go 4th order.

Craftsmanship is good as well.

props.

as stated:

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx326/brick1331/ToggleBank.jpg (http://s768.photobucket.com/albums/xx326/brick1331/?action=view&current=ToggleBank.jpg)

UpGradde
03-24-2010, 11:19 PM
Thanks, gotta have those kill switches.:cool:

tez4life
03-24-2010, 11:21 PM
Nice build, Im digging the box. Looks good :thumbsup:

Ridintwo6s
03-24-2010, 11:32 PM
**** *** woofer and amp combo

DB-Audio
03-25-2010, 12:46 AM
nice build man very clean i like it

twistedchild420
03-25-2010, 12:57 AM
I love this build....need to get you down to East Texas to do some work on my trunk!

Go2Sleep
03-25-2010, 01:07 AM
Nice build and I'm diggin that amp you got there.

Let us know how it works out for you.

Jaredturp
03-25-2010, 01:11 AM
Looks sick man! I want to hear it!

Andrew12
03-25-2010, 02:23 AM
I'm about to start a 4th order for my car, I'm curious to see how this sounds

TaylorFade
03-25-2010, 03:26 AM
I'm doing basically the same build. You have to let us know how this sounds.

SoCalBean420
03-25-2010, 07:26 PM
A very unique build...

It's not everyday you see this kind of ride, especially with this kind of equipment.

Love the 4th order build with that neo axis :)

Awesome work Edward!!

Bobby322
03-25-2010, 07:36 PM
videos please

Mr. Slate
03-25-2010, 07:49 PM
Nice work, congrats.

UpGradde
03-26-2010, 07:16 PM
Don't have videos yet but this thing gets pretty **** loud and LOW! There is a notable difference that I can tell going from a ported enclosure to a 4th order.

1. Narrow passband (I guess thats what its called). Can Only play frequencies from like 28hz to ~50hz. Above 50, it looses output a LOT.
2. Bass is not precise (ie like a kick drum on a sealed or even a ported box).
3. Bass sounds very deep, engulfs the whole car with it, highs can keep up but on some songs the bass is just too overwhelming (thank you decaf).
4. Hardly any rattle from the trunk. I can open my trunk and not loose any output in the cabin.
5. A 4th order is perfect for rap music (which has a lot of low freq. material), but when it comes to rock/alternative, output isnt so great. Thats where an epicenter comes in lol.
6. Bottom line: If you want low and deep bass, and dont care about a narrow frequency range, definatley consider a 4th order. It is (at least from my experience) louder then a ported box.

Overall I am satisfied with the output. The closest I can compare this system to was my 2 12 fi bls ported on a gp3kpro. Only difference is the 4th order gets lower but the bls get a lil bit louder ~1db is my guess. The TC shakes my steering wheel on songs with 30-35hz. I just cant believe the output for such a lightweight system, which was my goal, and I think I achieved it. Next move, rb25det!

UpGradde
03-26-2010, 07:18 PM
A very unique build...

It's not everyday you see this kind of ride, especially with this kind of equipment.

Love the 4th order build with that neo axis :)

Awesome work Edward!!

Thanks Luis! Cant wait to see your build log. Hows that WL coming along?

Jaredturp
03-27-2010, 12:50 AM
That little shpeal makes me never want to try a 4th order haha.

UpGradde
03-27-2010, 11:40 PM
That little shpeal makes me never want to try a 4th order haha.

??

Jaredturp
03-27-2010, 11:45 PM
The way you describe the sound makes it sound miserable.

UpGradde
03-27-2010, 11:55 PM
The way you describe the sound makes it sound miserable.

far from it. Out of 1 to 10, I would honestly rate it an 8. I was just stating all possible negative aspects of it. But now that I reread it, maybe I was a bit too harsh lol.

Jaredturp
03-28-2010, 12:41 AM
Alright yeah I figured it was better than you were making it seem like.

80INCHES
03-28-2010, 04:53 AM
Don't have videos yet but this thing gets pretty **** loud and LOW! There is a notable difference that I can tell going from a ported enclosure to a 4th order.

1. Narrow passband (I guess thats what its called). Can Only play frequencies from like 28hz to ~50hz. Above 50, it looses output a LOT.
2. Bass is not precise (ie like a kick drum on a sealed or even a ported box).
3. Bass sounds very deep, engulfs the whole car with it, highs can keep up but on some songs the bass is just too overwhelming (thank you decaf).
4. Hardly any rattle from the trunk. I can open my trunk and not loose any output in the cabin.
5. A 4th order is perfect for rap music (which has a lot of low freq. material), but when it comes to rock/alternative, output isnt so great. Thats where an epicenter comes in lol.
6. Bottom line: If you want low and deep bass, and dont care about a narrow frequency range, definatley consider a 4th order. It is (at least from my experience) louder then a ported box.

Overall I am satisfied with the output. The closest I can compare this system to was my 2 12 fi bls ported on a gp3kpro. Only difference is the 4th order gets lower but the bls get a lil bit louder ~1db is my guess. The TC shakes my steering wheel on songs with 30-35hz. I just cant believe the output for such a lightweight system, which was my goal, and I think I achieved it. Next move, rb25det!

told ya ;)
im glad ur enjoying it...not let see some vids as soon as u can..lol

80

path2spl
03-28-2010, 11:27 AM
haha stan how did i know you were gonna post in this. anyway nice build! and def good decision with the rb25!

UpGradde
03-28-2010, 11:39 AM
told ya ;)
im glad ur enjoying it...not let see some vids as soon as u can..lol

80

Yes they do get lowww lol. I can also see why a lot of competitors use 4th orders. Trying to get some vids later on today.

UpGradde
03-28-2010, 11:40 AM
haha stan how did i know you were gonna post in this. anyway nice build! and def good decision with the rb25!

Thanks! And yes, now comes the more expensive hobby (in general)..:(

kmanian
03-28-2010, 01:57 PM
Don't have videos yet but this thing gets pretty **** loud and LOW! There is a notable difference that I can tell going from a ported enclosure to a 4th order.

1. Narrow passband (I guess thats what its called). Can Only play frequencies from like 28hz to ~50hz. Above 50, it looses output a LOT.
2. Bass is not precise (ie like a kick drum on a sealed or even a ported box).
3. Bass sounds very deep, engulfs the whole car with it, highs can keep up but on some songs the bass is just too overwhelming (thank you decaf).
4. Hardly any rattle from the trunk. I can open my trunk and not loose any output in the cabin.
5. A 4th order is perfect for rap music (which has a lot of low freq. material), but when it comes to rock/alternative, output isnt so great. Thats where an epicenter comes in lol.
6. Bottom line: If you want low and deep bass, and dont care about a narrow frequency range, definatley consider a 4th order. It is (at least from my experience) louder then a ported box.

Overall I am satisfied with the output. The closest I can compare this system to was my 2 12 fi bls ported on a gp3kpro. Only difference is the 4th order gets lower but the bls get a lil bit louder ~1db is my guess. The TC shakes my steering wheel on songs with 30-35hz. I just cant believe the output for such a lightweight system, which was my goal, and I think I achieved it. Next move, rb25det!

I found personally, using a larger format midbass with BP boxes is the answer. something to put the kick back in the bass (8" MB)

nice job

mbrooky
03-30-2010, 08:04 PM
nice build! lovin the way you did the 4th order. post some vids!