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Hevychevyjeff
03-24-2010, 12:21 AM
I head this is a good place to find info for hooking up some good sounds in your ride.
I have a 94 impala ss, I just picked up. stock speakers are garbage. It has a alpine media deck.
I'm looking to upgrade the front door speakers to 6.5 component speakers, and replacing the rear 6x9's.
Any ideas? I'm going to run a JL 450/4 or 300/4 slash v2 amp. What are some decent speakers that have nice bass but aren't sloppy, with good vocals, so when I eventually put in subs I can actually hear the vocals.
My price range is $400 or so for a pair. I can go lower, or slightly higher. Not much though.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Jeff

tEh ShOcKeR
03-24-2010, 12:22 AM
Forget the rear 6x9s (don't run any) and spend your money up front.

schackel
03-24-2010, 12:22 AM
just going off your title here but you should make sure what ever tweeters you get make sure they are soft dome

Hevychevyjeff
03-24-2010, 12:30 AM
Forget the rear 6x9s (don't run any) and spend your money up front.

I was actually thinking of putting 10's or 12's in the rear deck lid,, and removing the 6x9's.
But until then. Why skip the 6x9's ?
Thanks for responding so fast

Johnny Law.Lulz
03-24-2010, 12:32 AM
My Earthquake Vteks would be sick in there. :fyi:

mxer657
03-24-2010, 12:39 AM
My Zed amp would blow the doors off of those JL amps and for much cheaper and a 6 year warranty built by the best and rated at 12 volts...

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/car-audio-classifieds/468195-fs-5-bnib-zed-amps-2.html



As for components, look at CDT's. I love mine.. You can get some good deals online. I'd get 2 sets of 6.5" components and convert the 6x9 to 6.5" with an adapter (easy and cheap). People say spend money on front stage but having a full stage will keep a more balanced and "full" sound to it. Another point is people sitting in the back will enjoy it more. Granted they probably aren't into as much car audio as you ;)

Bumpin' Goalie
03-24-2010, 12:42 AM
I was actually thinking of putting 10's or 12's in the rear deck lid,, and removing the 6x9's.
But until then. Why skip the 6x9's ?
Thanks for responding so fast

Lots of ppl here, including myself, prefer fronts only for imaging reasons. Also, 6.5's are more available and thus gives the buyer many more options in speaker choice. Putting 10(s) IB via your rear deck with some nice 6.5's up front has the potential to sound beautiful :)

FIMPALASS
03-24-2010, 12:43 AM
Do this. My 6x9's have way more mid bass than my 6.5's. Some people just don't like 6x9's. If you have time alignment you can bring the rear stage upfront you just have to know what you are doing.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii41/KAPONESS/100_0726.jpg

Bumpin' Goalie
03-24-2010, 12:46 AM
Do this. My 6x9's have way more mid bass than my 6.5's. Some people just don't like 6x9's.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii41/KAPONESS/100_0726.jpg

I really like the sub in the rear deck idea, Infinite Baffle, Trunk Baffle, or whatever you want to do. And if the buyer still wants 6x9's, sure why not. Might wanta flush the pod-covering material down some more though ;)

tEh ShOcKeR
03-24-2010, 12:46 AM
Do this. My 6x9's have way more mid bass than my 6.5's. Some people just don't like 6x9's.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii41/KAPONESS/100_0726.jpg

Oh man.....................

Johnny Law.Lulz
03-24-2010, 12:48 AM
Do this. My 6x9's have way more mid bass than my 6.5's. Some people just don't like 6x9's. If you have time alignment you can bring the rear stage upfront you just have to know what you are doing.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii41/KAPONESS/100_0726.jpg

Only thing i dont like about that is that it looks a little sloppy. No offense. It would be nice to see the sub and speakers flush mounted with some nice grills on the speaks to retain a close to stock look. Looks good otherwise.

FIMPALASS
03-24-2010, 12:49 AM
I really like the sub in the rear deck idea, Infinite Baffle, Trunk Baffle, or whatever you want to do. And if the buyer still wants 6x9's, sure why not. Might wanta flush the pod-covering material down some more though ;)

you talking about the 6x9's?

FIMPALASS
03-24-2010, 12:52 AM
Only thing i dont like about that is that it looks a little sloppy. No offense. It would be nice to see the sub and speakers flush mounted with some nice grills on the speaks to retain a close to stock look. Looks good otherwise.

Yeah the sub is flush mounted now I didn't like it that way either. And I change S*** so much I just didn't put the grills on. I want to put some 8" mibass's in the 6x9's place.

tEh ShOcKeR
03-24-2010, 12:58 AM
This is much cleaner :fyi:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii41/KAPONESS/100_0273.jpg

Bumpin' Goalie
03-24-2010, 01:06 AM
you talking about the 6x9's?

Yup. Just tidy it up a bit. I like the idea though. P.s. i think 8's would look, sound better.

FIMPALASS
03-24-2010, 01:15 AM
Yup. Just tidy it up a bit. I like the idea though. P.s. i think 8's would look, sound better.

Yeah I have screwed them down so they look better but the rear deck flex's so much it just rips the screws out so I just gave up.

FIMPALASS
03-24-2010, 01:18 AM
This is much cleaner :fyi:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii41/KAPONESS/100_0273.jpg

yes it does but that doesn't vibrate loss every couple days.

Bumpin' Goalie
03-24-2010, 01:22 AM
Yeah I have screwed them down so they look better but the rear deck flex's so much it just rips the screws out so I just gave up.

Reinforce the rear deck with MDF or fiberglass if it's worth it to you.

Hevychevyjeff
03-24-2010, 02:34 AM
Any other ideas on component speakers?

Hevychevyjeff
03-24-2010, 09:38 PM
No one has any ideas, for a good set of components? I don't want the tweeters to be to loud I seen some of the ones suggested had bad reviews by some.

duro78
03-25-2010, 06:48 AM
always loved that bodystyle ss nice dd

Horsemanwill
03-25-2010, 06:25 PM
if i had your car i'd go horns and 6x9 mids in the doors :D

James Bang
03-25-2010, 07:40 PM
wth

JimJ
03-25-2010, 07:42 PM
If you have time alignment you can bring the rear stage upfront you just have to know what you are doing.

You could use so much time alignment that it shows up next week, and it's not going to fix that.

Hevychevyjeff
03-25-2010, 08:30 PM
wth

wtf

James Bang
03-25-2010, 08:40 PM
wtf

exactly.

Hevychevyjeff
03-25-2010, 08:49 PM
exactly.
If you don't like rap, or think it deserves decent speakers, and have anything to contribute why are you on here, pretty easy to avoid the topic when the title states what it's about.
move around then

basebalz13
03-25-2010, 08:52 PM
for 400 dollars I would choose 2 sets of these.

CDT Audio COM-626 Component Set - Vertex Audio (http://vertexaudio.com/store/pc/CDT-Audio-COM-626-Component-Set-65p175.htm)


I'm going to shoot you with a PM for 2 of them :)

basebalz13
03-25-2010, 09:23 PM
HAHAHAHA, I just realized that I sent ya a email from CACO, and sent you a PM here.

Over there I was under the impression you just wanted a single set of 400 dollar comps.

I would choose the 2 sets I recommended here over the single set from CACO. You just want something to keep up with your bass right ?

papermaker
03-28-2010, 09:06 AM
A get you a solid 250x2 amp B grad cdt es06 mids and tweeters with the 525/550 xover..
you don't need much more for daily..

ithertz
03-28-2010, 09:56 AM
I agree with some others, just running a front stage gives you a more realistic sound. I would try the DD CX6.5 and if u just want the rear speakers DDCX6X9. Many people think dd just makes great subs. The highs and mids are like clean and super strong. If you dont have the JL amps yet, don't. I had some they are good but you can do better for the money. The ones I had the 300/4 and 450/4 will get hot after playing for a few hours(Like a good Saturday riding). Once again dd has an amp the dds4a check it out. It should cover all your hinds and mids needs. DDS4a Amplifier - DDAudio.com | Digital Designs : Speakers Made in the USA (http://www.ddaudio.com/amp/09/amp09S4a.htm)

Hevychevyjeff
04-04-2010, 01:07 AM
Well I have a few choices I got it narrowed down to what would be the best choice.
1# Focal 165KPS upgraded version 165KPS UV (Upgraded Version) - http://www.woofersetc.com/p6701/165KPS-UV-(Upgraded-Version)--Focal-65"-PolyKevlar-Power-Components.htm
2# Rainbow Germaniums CS 265.25 - http://www.woofersetc.com/p7041/CS-26525--Rainbow-Germanium-65"-2Way-Component-System.htm
3# Image Dynamics XS-65s XS-65 - http://www.woofersetc.com/p5712/XS65--Image-Dynamics-65"-2-Way-Component-System.htm
4# CDT audio Eurosports ES-620Z - http://www.woofersetc.com/p1110/ES620Z--CDT-Audio-EuroSport-65"-2Way-Component-Speakers.htm

gunz4me2
04-04-2010, 02:29 PM
Only issue I see is that Woofers Etc. has been known to send out fake Focal and Rainbow speakers OR drivers from a lower line in their higher line of Focal and Rainbow component sets. If one wishes to take the gamble, then fine... It's your money! Just be warned that you may be getting the wrong driver or a counterfeit and Woofers will pull some BS excuse of being screwed by a distributor/shady source leaving you holding the bag.

Hevychevyjeff
04-04-2010, 06:21 PM
Only issue I see is that Woofers Etc. has been known to send out fake Focal and Rainbow speakers OR drivers from a lower line in their higher line of Focal and Rainbow component sets. If one wishes to take the gamble, then fine... It's your money! Just be warned that you may be getting the wrong driver or a counterfeit and Woofers will pull some BS excuse of being screwed by a distributor/shady source leaving you holding the bag.
I don't have to buy them from woofersect but it was easy to put a link on there.
Also I thought they were a factory dealer for Rainbow?
anyways what about the speakers? not where they're from just the speakers themselves?

jifisher
04-04-2010, 08:25 PM
I've been contemplating the CDT myself. Do you think these beat anything you can find at Best Buy? Problem with CDT is, I can't find a local dealer that carries them, so I can't test before I buy.

DarkScorpion
04-04-2010, 10:20 PM
I've been contemplating the CDT myself. Do you think these beat anything you can find at Best Buy? Problem with CDT is, I can't find a local dealer that carries them, so I can't test before I buy.

Those CDT's will be better than anything bestbuy carries. And I feel ya, Austin has no high-end audio stores :crap:

Hevychevyjeff
04-06-2010, 01:57 AM
I ended up going with the CDT's I'm going to have to add a spacer to fit the cdts in the stock location, adding dynamat to the doors, and other suggerstions to get the most out of the speakers?
I'm pretty excited, I usually just thew some subs in the trunk and called it a day.
I'm trying to set up my car for Sq now, taking my time going to do a clean install. No more jerry rigging just to bump. I'm getting to old for that, kinda new to correct audio set ups. any help would be appreciated.
I'm doing a passive crossover right now, eventually i'm going to run active once I have the money for a extra amp, and I get a good grasp on how to do it properly.
Thanks for the help
Jeff

gunz4me2
04-06-2010, 02:41 AM
I would suggest sealing the access holes as good as possible and using a little SDS, Dynamat, Second Skin, whatever to dampen the sheet metal.

For sealing the access holes, I've found gorilla tape and house for sale signs to work great and NO I didn't steal mine from any houses for sale... The real estate agent who sold me this house in 2005 left one of her signs behind so I put it to good use. I never understood those who add sheet metal, galvanized tin, aluminum, etc to seal the access holes in the door. All they are doing is adding more crap to resonate to the beat of the music that is going to require more deadening. IMHO, metal on metal is the absolute WORST idea for sealing those access holes.

ETA: since you went with CDT, I would recommend mounting those tweeters off-axis or attenuating them down as much as possible if mounted on-axis because they can be quite harsh with some source material. I know because I have these in one of my vehicles:
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr102/oldsch00lf00l/Front.jpg
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr102/oldsch00lf00l/CDT-tweeter.jpg

Hevychevyjeff
04-06-2010, 08:29 PM
I would suggest sealing the access holes as good as possible and using a little SDS, Dynamat, Second Skin, whatever to dampen the sheet metal.

For sealing the access holes, I've found gorilla tape and house for sale signs to work great and NO I didn't steal mine from any houses for sale... The real estate agent who sold me this house in 2005 left one of her signs behind so I put it to good use. I never understood those who add sheet metal, galvanized tin, aluminum, etc to seal the access holes in the door. All they are doing is adding more crap to resonate to the beat of the music that is going to require more deadening. IMHO, metal on metal is the absolute WORST idea for sealing those access holes.

ETA: since you went with CDT, I would recommend mounting those tweeters off-axis or attenuating them down as much as possible if mounted on-axis because they can be quite harsh with some source material. I know because I have these in one of my vehicles:
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr102/oldsch00lf00l/Front.jpg
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr102/oldsch00lf00l/CDT-tweeter.jpg
Thanks,
I'm a heating a/c guy so I have access to tons of sheet metal. That might of been one of my first choices. Thanks one of my daughter friends mom is a R.E. agent so im going to talk to her.
Thanks for the tip on the tweeters, i'll do that. I don't know when i'll get subs in but atleast it'll sound good until then.
Thanks again