The Saturn: Death-Horn Build/Addition (10kw+)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

I think its about that time :)


Im going to be building a horn ontop of my current enclosure upto the b-pillar, continuing the top of the horn upto the windshield as the ceiling to make one, smooth surface from the port to the windshield. I also eventually plan on tearing out the front of my box to remake it to fit (8) 10" Fi Q's...I'll need more coil for a beast that may be heading my way :D


All of this should bring my new enclosure specs to approx. 10.2 cubes net, 200 sq inches of port area, and should bring the tuning to ~27-28hz ;) :D


I also plan on adding batteries in the trunk and the sides of the horn aswell...lets just say the satty will be rolling on over 10kw... I will be ordering beefed-up springs for the rear suspension aswell.


A good handful of you have seen the design but for those who havent, here it is:

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8de68470.jpg

I got a few things cut and mocked-up last night but only had my phone camera...better pics tonight/this week though.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

And im going to keep the amp secret until its here but should be a big'n :)

A few crappy pics of a couple panels cut last night..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/c540cf47.jpg

^That'll be kerf-cut to bend, not sure how far out i'll make the horn go though...

Piece going behind the port, getting kerf-cut to bend...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d0c234ab.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/48398a60.jpg

Outside view (rear windows will be painted black)

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d9af1e7f.jpg

More as it happens..

[bhsdriller]

saw this on caco...looks sweet

[528hz]

Fvck yeah, man! This should be nice!

Keep the progress come'n!!!

[O.G. D-Wet]

More pics!

[inkfx]

yea buddy

[Johnny Law.Lulz]

Should be pretty quiet.

[Andrizzle]

moar pics or gtfo

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys...and as you wish :)

Got the front, top piece made for the ceiling...predrilled the holes and got to foaming and realized im dumb and didnt want the normal-expanding foam under my sunroof so I pulled it and got the window stuff to just seal around it...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/df4621e6.jpg

Im so glad I got these bars welded in, theyre very handy for mounting the horn/ceiling to...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/fcf540ae.jpg

Got some final touches with some caulk to seal up the sunroof well...dont want leaks once I have the inside covered and sealed...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/1cb40cc3.jpg

And im going out for some drinks tonight so no real progress...meh :( more as it happens

[Johnny Law.Lulz]

Question, it appears the way you have done it, that the sunroof is no longer functional so why not just pull the sunroof and well up new sheet metal up there and do body work and make it appear as it never was there?

[bhsdriller]

^too much work?

[Johnny Law.Lulz]

^too much work?

Better in te long run ?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Yea, thatd be way more work imo...and repainting n stuff...way more money too.

[KyleBechtold]

Yea, thatd be way more work imo...and repainting n stuff...way more money too.

this.. for the cost of the car its not worth it as it won't be flexing much at all..

[One Bad MOFO]

So is this gonna all be done before Dropfest?

[O.G. D-Wet]

Keep em comin!

[hispls]

Cool. So when tuning the port you calculate to the throat of the horn right?

Working on a top-secret build myself this spring.... Camry is dead and I picked up a Jeep Cherokee. I must say the accoustics in that body style are far suppieror to a sedan. Running Fi BTL 18" now off 2 channels from the Zed Leviathan and it is allready quite loud.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

So is this gonna all be done before Dropfest?

I should have the horn finished up, new amp in, and a handful more batteries but I dont know if the subs will be here and installed by then...over 2 grand in subs wont be a small order to be making ontop of the amp and batts as it is...may be a little while for the subs so it'll be pretty far along by then but the amp will be turned down quite a bit so i dont shred the 18s apart, I still need to keep them together to sell lol

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright,



Front piece in and got foam around the edges (not in pics)..



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d745e8ea.jpg



From the back...the pieces coming from the back will mate-up here and will be screwed into the 2nd bar that was welded into place...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/1931c6e4.jpg



The port opening...getting the foam a bit cleaned up



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8096679f.jpg



Cut out some ribs that I will fiberglass accross to make the bottom of the horn..



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/9dcdcac8.jpg



Getting ready to mount them...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/0757477e.jpg



Mounted...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/78b38f63.jpg



And that instant bond holds them strong...I could rock my car back n forth holding onto one and it didnt budge.



I may not have a ton of progress for a while because I will be needing the rear window pulled so I can make a scaffolding of sorts over my trunk to be able to lay down and fiberglass from the port overtop these ribs and add plenty of layers for stength and sand it all smooth before I continue...I also have a few boxes to make.

[Mr. Slate]

You're not doing this for numbers are you?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Uh lol...~27-28hz tuning. definitely not hehe, just going for 49.9 bassracer/groundpounder/fun mobile

[AQHDC3]

I can't wait to see how this turns out. Keep up the good work!

[benzmansl65amg]

I'm excited

[LDW3RD]

in for the fun, and the excellent skills. Looks great so far......

[iamamp3pimp]

tried to pm you bro, get back @ me. theres something spiffy you should know.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

I tried calling you, Robin...but your phone was off so I left a message :(

And thanks everyone, I have a box to build for the guy whose buying my amp so thats a big chunk of money towards this build...so for a number of days in the near future I'll pretty much only be doing that :(

[O.G. D-Wet]

I tried calling you, Robin...but your phone was off so I left a message :(

And thanks everyone, I have a box to build for the guy whose buying my amp so thats a big chunk of money towards this build...so for a number of days in the near future I'll pretty much only be doing that :(

sweeet! post a log on it! lol

[thericanballer]

im not quite understanding what your doing but the design looks cool as hell. ill understand once its finished im sure

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Yea, these pics may start to explain where things are going...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/3c3e081b.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8faa8f38.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/05a905e4.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/238d579d.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/4a70c5c1.jpg

^Ended up with the first 2 layers of cloth and 5 or so layers of mat in most areas...still needs to get smoothed out etc but its a start

[9515ROB]

y didnt u tint the back window so u dont c all back of everything

[Pioneer~Saturn]

y didnt u tint the back window so u dont c all back of everything

Wait and see, young grasshopper ;)

[Slo_Ride]

he said he's painting it black

[9515ROB]

i missed that then i was hoping since u didnt tint it you would paint it but u never know i have seen some people who have walled there car and u c the back of the box and everything

[CranberryYumYum]

you could build a boat with all that glass..

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Yea, Im having a glass place remove the rear window...im going to paint it and work more on the enclosure through the rear window will be a ton easier...then im going to have them put it back in and i will also be blacking-out the rear side windows too

[Pioneer~Saturn]

The xxx10k is gone so I will be borrowing my buddys goliath for a while now :)

Fair well, xxx10k :(

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/4edb675f.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/dde90891.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/a4a68c8f.jpg

And the back window comes out next weekend, more fun then ;)

[Annnarbor84]

That 10k was not all that great anyways was it?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

It was fantastic. Everyone hates on them but its usually because they have half-@ssed electrical setups and expect the world out of them. But ive loved every second with this amp.

[Annnarbor84]

It was fantastic. Everyone hates on them but its usually because they have half-@ssed electrical setups and expect the world out of them. But ive loved every second with this amp.

It always pissed me off that they rated them on 16v.....

[tez4life]

The clamp holding up the trunk lid always kills me lol, guess its nessary with the trunk spring rods removed or whatever they called. Nice progress.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks...cant wait until this weekend and get the rear window out so some real work can begin :yumyum:

[kmanian]

I missed it,what happened to the 10k?

[BigJoker]

I missed it,what happened to the 10k?

sold it

[Go2Sleep]

progress?

[Wingman0121]

So is this gonna all be done before Dropfest?

Are you guys talking about the Dropfest in Appleton WI on June 5th and 6th? I might be there just for fun.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Yea, the xxx10k is sold. And progress cant happen really until this weekend after the rear window is pulled so I can finish fiberglassing the lower hump and continue with the panels and fiberglassing those.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright, I got the back section of my rear windows painted black and a few stickers on...

Cleaning that ish off...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/51931a7b.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/82a255be.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/f83bea3a.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/41a05a91.jpg

Other side..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/618dbd65.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/c4495ce2.jpg

And potentially the last comp with this setup as it has been a bit later today :(

[Bobby322]

what type of paint did you use?

[Go2Sleep]

nice job on those back windows.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks. And I used Krylon flat black

[Savag3]

as usual sik work , should be a heart stopper ! tuned.

[Millertime1028]

Very impressive man. looking foward to finished result of this bish

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys, wish I couldve gotten work done this weekend but the guy whose going to pull my back window couldnt due to easter. So it'll come out within a couple days, hopefully tomorrow (monday) and hopefully the weather cooperates so I can get some real work done :)...I should have a nice chunk of work done every evening.

[SPLmatic]

Looks really good. Really can't wait to see the finished product :D

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks :)

And it looks like the guy that I have lined up to take out my rear glass cant do it until 8am on saturday *Big Sad Face*...so i guess this week I wont be doing much work :(

[cx-7heaven]

Thanks :)

And it looks like the guy that I have lined up to take out my rear glass cant do it until 8am on saturday *Big Sad Face*...so i guess this week I wont be doing much work :(

Get you some piano wire and get that sucker yourself. Just stick it through the gasket, and have someone pull on one end while you pull on the other. Guitar string may work as well.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Never done it before so im leaving it to someone else, many people on the saturn forums said I'll most likely break it if im not experienced because its so curvy so i will wait, ive become very patient with this hobby...

[batvette]

I know these words won't be welcomed, and probably sound like yer dad..... (is he 48? if so he can come over and have a beer with me in june on my b'day!) but in about 10-15 years you're going to stumble across a file in a drawer with all your drawings, and worse, all your receipts, and you aren't going to working full time anymore because all those nights contorting your body caught up and your back is fried.... and say:

what the hell was I smoking when I thought I had to have this?

Yeah, I know, throw me out of here.

I'm there now and you just warn somebody in 10-15 years, nobody did me that favor. I'm doing it to you now.

****runs****
(If you FINISH it it ain't so bad)

2 of my projects in the day:

corvette IASCA pictures by batvette - Photobucket (http://s353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/batvette/corvette%20IASCA/)

Corvette tied for first in points in Southern California IASCA 601+ novice in '98, qualified for invite to world finals. Tow van blew up halfway there.
Trophied in several shows the next season as expert 601+. Quit IASCA when I got judging credentials in USAC. Not stealing your thunder, just saw your post and thought "Hmmm... so I thought Femi Adeoke finished those horns in the Grand Prix.. does he have a Saturn now and is STILL crazy?" (old schoolers know who and what I mean- the guy set his goals high!)

And the car I tied for first in points with and faced all season was a Saturn wagon.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

I know these words won't be welcomed, and probably sound like yer dad..... (is he 48? if so he can come over and have a beer with me in june on my b'day!) but in about 10-15 years you're going to stumble across a file in a drawer with all your drawings, and worse, all your receipts, and you aren't going to working full time anymore because all those nights contorting your body caught up and your back is fried.... and say:

what the hell was I smoking when I thought I had to have this?

Yeah, I know, throw me out of here.

I'm there now and you just warn somebody in 10-15 years, nobody did me that favor. I'm doing it to you now.

****runs****
(If you FINISH it it ain't so bad)

2 of my projects in the day:

corvette IASCA pictures by batvette - Photobucket (http://s353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/batvette/corvette%20IASCA/)

Corvette tied for first in points in Southern California IASCA 601+ novice in '98, qualified for invite to world finals. Tow van blew up halfway there.
Trophied in several shows the next season as expert 601+. Quit IASCA when I got judging credentials in USAC. Not stealing your thunder, just saw your post and thought "Hmmm... so I thought Femi Adeoke finished those horns in the Grand Prix.. does he have a Saturn now and is STILL crazy?" (old schoolers know who and what I mean- the guy set his goals high!)

And the car I tied for first in points with and faced all season was a Saturn wagon.

Well, my dad will be 50 at the end of April.

But im not quite sure what youre saying...? I wont regret spending thousands on this. Ever. If thats what youre talking about.

And how will my back be fried and i'll be out of work..? Im sort of confused by what youre saying, I guess..

Plus 2012's on the way, so no need to worry about being 50 :)

And honestly, whats a couple grand here n there over the course of a lifetime...? that's just a drop in the bucket..i'll gladly spend my worthless money for something i want/makes me happy.

[tc3k101]

Get you some piano wire and get that sucker yourself. Just stick it through the gasket, and have someone pull on one end while you pull on the other. Guitar string may work as well.

I'd be more worried about scratching the paint with wire. The wire is not the safest thing in the world to use either, most of the time when I'm using it at work it will get a kink if pulled wrong and it will snap. They can take out a eye very easily when the snap or cut your face up haha. I'd rather use cole(sp) knifes.


Never done it before so im leaving it to someone else, many people on the saturn forums said I'll most likely break it if im not experienced because its so curvy so i will wait, ive become very patient with this hobby...
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Nah you can't break it with the wire unless you lift up on the glass, you will scratch your paint to **** though if you do it wrong. Also you would need the poly urethane and a razor blade to trim old glue off if you decide this route. I can send you what you need if you cover shipping :)

[Savag3]

And honestly, whats a couple grand here n there over the course of a lifetime...? that's just a drop in the bucket..i'll gladly spend my worthless money for something i want/makes me happy.


^ ^ ^ ^ ^
THIS

[Jaredturp]

Build is looking great man. Can't wait to see the death horn construction.

[Annnarbor84]

I know these words won't be welcomed, and probably sound like yer dad..... (is he 48? if so he can come over and have a beer with me in june on my b'day!) but in about 10-15 years you're going to stumble across a file in a drawer with all your drawings, and worse, all your receipts, and you aren't going to working full time anymore because all those nights contorting your body caught up and your back is fried.... and say:

what the hell was I smoking when I thought I had to have this?

Yeah, I know, throw me out of here.

I'm there now and you just warn somebody in 10-15 years, nobody did me that favor. I'm doing it to you now.

****runs****
(If you FINISH it it ain't so bad)

2 of my projects in the day:

corvette IASCA pictures by batvette - Photobucket (http://s353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/batvette/corvette%20IASCA/)

Corvette tied for first in points in Southern California IASCA 601+ novice in '98, qualified for invite to world finals. Tow van blew up halfway there.
Trophied in several shows the next season as expert 601+. Quit IASCA when I got judging credentials in USAC. Not stealing your thunder, just saw your post and thought "Hmmm... so I thought Femi Adeoke finished those horns in the Grand Prix.. does he have a Saturn now and is STILL crazy?" (old schoolers know who and what I mean- the guy set his goals high!)

And the car I tied for first in points with and faced all season was a Saturn wagon.

That hurst is the ****!!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Tomorrow I should have some pics to post of some work being done, going to get a headstart on this for saturday :)

[528hz]

This is going to be amazing! God I can't wait, like the others, to see some vids of this thing causing some damage!

Wish I had the balls to do something like this...

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Lol thanks, man. I cant wait either, and im thinking a vine with a monkey on it as a port keeper...any thoughts? :D

[O.G. D-Wet]

A) I want to see more of this build ASAP!!! The windows came out CLEAN!
B) WTF is ontop of that hurst??? I'm confused!

[Annnarbor84]

A) I want to see more of this build ASAP!!! The windows came out CLEAN!
B) WTF is ontop of that hurst??? I'm confused!

Appears to be some coffin/spaceship

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Got two ribs put in at the front of the horn. At the front the sides will slant slightly like you can see, just trying to keep the basic contour of the car and make the opening as large as possible.



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/beee6c6d.jpg


More tomorrow :)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright...got the back window pulled this morning..



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/dece7e9c.jpg



Made myself a bridge to get right over the port to do work...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/e5343656.jpg



What i had to start...:(



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/ff8c2f33.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/7f170915.jpg



Got the lower hump glassed down into the port...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/760237d2.jpg



Prepped the top piece with the pocket-hole jig...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8b59153a.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/07f39a10.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

More glass added, upto one layer of cloth and 4 layers of mat at this point iirc...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/e4251c49.jpg



This is what doin work looks like :)



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/729196d7.jpg



Got the contour for the side cut out of some birch..



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/e624cb9e.jpg



Got them screwed down...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/f593b0f1.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/37a3d51b.jpg



And I got upto 6 layers of mat ontop of the cloth layer iirc, bodyfilled a bit, sanded, then a layer of milkshake put on..



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/573f633f.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/ff1c8a42.jpg



Still a bit shotty on even'ness but its getting there...more tomorrow, the bottom hump should be done and the back piece mounted and reinforced/glassed from behind if weathers nice...

And the side pieces arent lined up with the vertical pieces because im going to glass over to the pillar pretty drastically and that will fill the gap in :)

[Jaredturp]

Great progress!

[O.G. D-Wet]

this is so **** crazy. Sand dat ho silky smoooth!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys. More progress later but I forgot I have some family stuff around dinner time so not a full day of work like yesterday :(

[528hz]

In deed...that is putting in work! Great progress!

[Andrizzle]

Moar

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright, got some more done...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/19fc1223.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/cfb619a5.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/9937c35c.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/4cab731b.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/5aa1c08a.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/5968a0f4.jpg



More as it happens

[Mr. Slate]

You are definitely determined. Again, best of luck.

[Millertime1028]

I give you credit for the time put into this. Looking mean. Any specific # your chasing ?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks :)

And no specific number really, just 49.9 bassrace...so hopefully mid 50's burp

[schrummy]

Moar!!!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Today I got the cloth stapled to the supports for glassing and got my crossfire 1k put in so i have a little something to listen to (the goliath's out now). I also forgot my camera, but didnt get a whole lot done today...more tomorrow though.

[O.G. D-Wet]

you're awesome

[Blasphemy]

Do work. That looks like it's going to be beastly.

[Go2Sleep]

nice

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys...I cant wait either :)

[ngsm13]

Yea, Im having a glass place remove the rear window...im going to paint it and work more on the enclosure through the rear window will be a ton easier...then im going to have them put it back in and i will also be blacking-out the rear side windows too

Hope that you never get pulled over in the DYT.

When we walled off Jason's caprice, we painted his back glass and rear side windows black. Few weeks later, he got pulled over in Beavercreek I think. Wrote him a ticket, and he had to show proof of removal too. Ended up getting a new car anyways, and this car was decomissioned so it didn't matter. lol.

nG

[CranberryYumYum]

oink

[Pioneer~Saturn]

That blows, noah...I'll have to watch out but it wont be driven around town much at all, i'll be getting a 2nd car for in-town driving a bit down the road

[lil98cabrio]

moar pics!!!!! love itt

[lostdaytomorrow]

Niceeeee

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, man.

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8cb91010.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/e5f8a258.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/39addf1b.jpg



A few minor sags but turned out pretty well. Letting this cure and will get to adding mat tomorrow...and dreading glassing up :(

[O.G. D-Wet]

this=******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, mane :)

[phemps]

this=******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i was thinking the same exact thing before i saw your comment. fuckin ****** dude. saturn owners rejoice ha. my ion wants 8 15s in a tunnels which im hoping to do a few months from now

[Pioneer~Saturn]

i was thinking the same exact thing before i saw your comment. fuckin ****** dude. saturn owners rejoice ha. my ion wants 8 15s in a tunnels which im hoping to do a few months from now

Thanks. And sounds sick, even if its not in a real saturn :( lol jk. oldschool ftw

[phemps]

Thanks. And sounds sick, even if its not in a real saturn :( lol jk. oldschool ftw

no i completely agree with you there:( **** this plastic **** my friend had the same as you great car took quite a beating. but i got this for very cheap and it was in awesome condition and very low mileage so oh well the tunnel should hopefully make up for it

[Deeper_shades]

****ing sick man......

[46panel]

Looking nice man! BTW you have another PM ha :)

[captaincheesey]

Every time I see you add onto this project it amazes me the craftsmanship that goes into it, as well as the dedication and hard work. Plenty of blood sweat and tears has gone into this huh?

[CoilBurner]

Really hope it comes out well and is tuned in the proper ballpark etc cause to **** if I would want to rebuild....

[orangecounty1]

Hope that you never get pulled over in the DYT.

When we walled off Jason's caprice, we painted his back glass and rear side windows black. Few weeks later, he got pulled over in Beavercreek I think. Wrote him a ticket, and he had to show proof of removal too. Ended up getting a new car anyways, and this car was decomissioned so it didn't matter. lol.

nG

was the ticket a reduced fine + show proof of removal? or full price and still show proof?

i got a ticket for tint once, it was reduced + show proof of removal. i paid the full price, and never showed proof, and i still have it to this day. ive been ticketed after that as well and they never asked why i didnt take it off.

btw, the build is looking NICE. one of my favorites by far!!!

[Bobby322]

pshycadelic

[HighTQCummins]

i can see some things shaking w/ that 30.5hz tuning, this is something i'd like to hear in person, muderin' lows.

Can't wait to see some more progress on this.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, everyone :veryhapp:

I'm uploading a couple pics of yesterday's work but right now im stuck with this rain....cant really get to the shop with it raining. Hopefully it lets-up and I can get some work done today :(


i can see some things shaking w/ that 30.5hz tuning, this is something i'd like to hear in person, muderin' lows.

Can't wait to see some more progress on this.

Thats the tuning without the horn addition :) it'll be a nice chunk under 30hz tuning with the horn done, tehehe

[orangecounty1]

i lawled @ the sagging like granny **** comment hahaha

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright, got some work done yesterday...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/70415c0b.jpg

And got the crossfire 1k in (actually pushes the omegas nicely)

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/41f723e7.jpg

And some from today...(ofcourse i didnt have my camera :( so these are phone camera pics)

Mat added..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/efd813cf.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/6fdc7df8.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/924a8086.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/3506f448.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/b710dcbe.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/33b15f97.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/72a495d4.jpg

[46panel]

Wow man, a lot of work! Nice

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, man its gettin there :)

And I forgot to mention...I hit the kerfed portion of the back of the horn pretty much as hard as I could and it didnt flinch in the slightest :) I plan on a little bit of glass on the inside of it plus the bedliner and it'll be one strong puppy :fro:

[46panel]

Thanks, man its gettin there :)

And I forgot to mention...I hit the kerfed portion of the back of the horn pretty much as hard as I could and it didnt flinch in the slightest :) I plan on a little bit of glass on the inside of it plus the bedliner and it'll be one strong puppy :fro:

Yea for sure! Were you able to check out my PM with the little paint drawing?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Yea, i meant to respond but my weekend's packed :( may be able to get to it during the week

[orangecounty1]

this is my favorite build in a long time. this is gonna be BA when finished!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks man, juat wait until the amp gets here and I post pics of the goodies someone made for it for me :fro:

[orangecounty1]

poast nao!

[CoilBurner]

Are you planning on just glassing the sides closed??

[Pioneer~Saturn]

poast nao!

Tehehe, in time...it gown be sick :fro:


Are you planning on just glassing the sides closed??

Yea, the sides will be almost entirely glass but I may put a few birch supports along the way but theyre going to be very thick and solidly glassed :)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Did a bit more glassing today...added 2 layers to the outside of the back of the horn and added a layer of mat to the back half of the top/ceiling..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/b971d9d8.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/2c0ca7b7.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d5065206.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/b5b29199.jpg

The rear window goes back in tomorrow :) more pics when it happens...

[lil98cabrio]

i love this!!!!!!!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, man.

I got the back glass painted and put back in today after another layer of glass on the back of the horn and another layer to the top/ceiling..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/906489e7.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d443d0e4.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/c7c7a4d3.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d9e69c4a.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/e9aaa5ce.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/7fd5c539.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/b753308d.jpg

Hoping to get some decent work done tomorrow weather-permitting..

[GetLikeMe]

Man you're nuts! lmao what happan to that hifonics amp?

[46panel]

Getting there :)

[CoilBurner]

Tehehe, in time...it gown be sick :fro:



Yea, the sides will be almost entirely glass but I may put a few birch supports along the way but theyre going to be very thick and solidly glassed :)


Cool, was just curious hoq you were going to close it it

[kmanian]

this is looking sick

more!!!!!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys

Here's a better look at the window with it cleaner and I brought the horn in a bit with a few layers of mat over a layer of cloth cloth...will continue to build overtop of it and continue the flare upto the front of the box/b-pillar

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/db04e4a2.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/fbb588b2.jpg

More tomorrow, hopefully will get really started on the sides

[mxer657]

such a nice job...

[djm4rshm2llow]

im curious to how you glass upside down. goggles and a rain coat? lol

[djm4rshm2llow]

btw coolest build ive ever seen

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys :) And I learned quickly that you cant just brush upwards..the resin runs down the handle and gets everywhere...so going at as steep of an angle up against the ceiling as possible worked best...barely got on me after that. But I did have a few evenings of melting gloves and curing resin on my forearms...that was just grand.

Got a good bit done today ;) pics in a bit

[Blasphemy]

The horn is looking beastly. :drool:

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, man :)

Got one of the sides well underway with a first layer of cloth and one layer of mat throughout most of it..will be adding lots of layers to the sides, should be a tank ;)



Cloth getting stapled onto the two rails..



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/ee40d9dc.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/3c0b9554.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/dfada651.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/baab28dc.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/c2bf12d3.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/4a2da09f.jpg



More layers and possibly the other side started tomorrow :)

[813thumper]

im jealous

[lil98cabrio]

im turned on!!

[schackel]

i am grossed out

[skadude016]

cannot wait til this build is done!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys :)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Got roughly 2 more layers throughout the side added today and got a gap filled with cloth and 2 layers of mat as well

Getting the cloth glued up for that gap..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/811b0127.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/bfab7f51.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/68ec3ec2.jpg

More tomorrow..

[Millertime1028]

lol this is going to *** some people up. Like the progress.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks man and one can only hope itll hurt some people :)

[collin.k]

lame! i just read through the whole thread and i thought it might've been done so i coulda seen what it looks like! good job man!

[bhsdriller]

how are you going to finish it

it would look sick with like a piano black finish...would be extremely hard to do but would look good

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks. and to be lazy I may have it bedlined or do it myself...but would prefer legit bedliner. But yea, a really slick black finish would look so good...but would be days and days of prep...it'd have to be flawless to do. Not saying i wont though...lol

[outsideshot23]

Looks good man

[Pioneer~Saturn]

lame! i just read through the whole thread and i thought it might've been done so i coulda seen what it looks like! good job man!

Thanks...and ive got a 8-4:30 fulltime job, id like to see others on the forums try and make this amount of progress in a week and a half's work with limited time during the weekdays...the real build didnt start until the 10th...

[CoilBurner]

I would definetely aerosol bedliner it, gloss black would probly take a year to smooth and perfect flatten THAT much surface area

[GearGuy2001]

Looks good, going to be at the CACO show with this?

[KyleBechtold]

I would definetely aerosol bedliner it, gloss black would probly take a year to smooth and perfect flatten THAT much surface area

not just this but you would have fiberglass particles in your car for the rest of its life..

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Looks good, going to be at the CACO show with this?

Yesir, and may be packin a bit more heat than the 1k thats in there now ;)

[djm4rshm2llow]

wheres the update broo, i wanna see it sanded down

[O.G. D-Wet]

The horn is looking beastly. :drool:

Where's that clip of that dude hookin that girl in the face from??? It's hilarious!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

:( i have some things to do this weekend...may have a bit of progress today/tomorrow though

[subzero]

better have people sign a waver to sit inside your ride during demos. You better take out a life ins policey. MAke me the benefit...

[The Welduh]

Nice work man, this thing is a beast. I'm curious about your second alt though... I drive a Saturn SC2, I think you had mentioned you removed the A/C to make room? Any chance you have a photo of the bracket you used?

[QuikSilverRS91]

I have an idea. When it's done, stuff a midget in the horn opening. Instead of measuring dB, we measure midget velocity as they shoot out the windshield.

Insane work man, keep it up.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys :)


Nice work man, this thing is a beast. I'm curious about your second alt though... I drive a Saturn SC2, I think you had mentioned you removed the A/C to make room? Any chance you have a photo of the bracket you used?

Thanks. And if you go down through these pics you'll see a couple with the 2nd alt in it...removed the AC and welded-up a bracket to hold the alt using the factory mounting points for the AC bracket.

Ohio Bass Society: Competition Car Audio - Doug's Page (http://www.freewebs.com/ohiobasssociety/dougspage.htm)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright, got a bit done. More layers to the side of the horn and made a mold of the pillar so I can glass the horn over to it and also glass over from the enclosure at the bottom to seal..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/a13eab12.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/4e84d8b5.jpg

^2 and a half packs of mat were added...a good handful of layers, lost track

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/865a1559.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/c4a3b920.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/0fbb9a58.jpg

[Blasphemy]

Where's that clip of that dude hookin that girl in the face from??? It's hilarious!

Jersey Shore.

[amartin_72]

lol why havent you taken the subs out for this yet? Arent they getting dirty or beat up

[I Like Waffle]

Sick saturn brah

[Pioneer~Saturn]

lol why havent you taken the subs out for this yet? Arent they getting dirty or beat up

Theyre just fine. If you mounted them youd know why im not trying to do it often...lol, not the best of times. Covering them does the trick


Sick saturn brah

Tanks :)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright. I trimmed up the seal-piece and got it mounted with some silicone adhesive so that it'll seal and also be flexible.



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d8560d7c.jpg



Got some cloth over to the seal from the horn...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/e1685276.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8d5e2e00.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/9c827016.jpg



Bottom...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/5dc6e6ed.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/b9be97fc.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/a2c17ec4.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/eee6e605.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/79b319e9.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

And now that I cant see out of that window I went ahead and painted it...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/0f4f17af.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/69bb27f9.jpg



Finally more layers...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/20105c44.jpg

[Flastrongman]

I love the idea of this build but it seems like a lot of work. Just wondering if you had in mind what kind of gains you're expecting out of this.

[LDW3RD]

very awesome work bruh.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys. And im looking for mid 150's out of this when done but the main goal is a 49.9 bassracer. Which it could almost do a solid 148 bassrace run before so more than double the power, the horn, more than double the battery backup and more cone area should do the trick im thinking ;)

[bubbagumper6]

Man that looks like crap...

















jk ;)

[Qxxx4]

More cone area???

Baffle still apears to be for the 2 18's

You planning on removing it??

[Pioneer~Saturn]

More cone area???

Baffle still apears to be for the 2 18's

You planning on removing it??

Yea, first post says 8 10's ;)

[O.G. D-Wet]

i cant get enough of this build

[lil98cabrio]

yummy yummy yummyy :)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guy :)

And the saturn's going to be dropped off tonight for a minor repair and oil change that'll be finished tomorrow so no real work can be done tonight, especially with only a few cups of resin left...more resin's heading my way though.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright, I got the saturn back and did a bit of work.

Got the top frame glued and screwed into place...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/c8c7d6c3.jpg

Cloth stapled between the two frame pieces (well, 3)...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/29c7938b.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/de13e0bb.jpg

More when it happens :)

[teen]

lookin good. you do solid work... i wanna see some vids of this bish done...

[Blasphemy]

lookin good. You do solid work... I wanna see some vids of this bish done...

x2.

[djeazie]

Man this is awesome! Good work! Its funny to me how we all love car audio, and how many levels of love there is! LOL!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys :)

Got the side cloth resined and a layer of mat added but im running very low on resin now and have to wait for the 2 gallons I ordered to be delivered friday. So tomorrow Im going to finish off the rest of it with filling the top gap and layering as much as I can with what I have...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/75c5773a.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/dd2d8a53.jpg

^4-gauge speaker wire..that's how a man does it ;)

[Jaredturp]

A man creates a horn like this :fyi: ****** build man.

[teen]

^4-gauge speaker wire..that's how a man does it ;)
haha... and i thought i was a man for using 8g

[nateberrier]

F#ck that Im getting a demo when this is done

[DB-Audio]

**** bro nice work cant wait to see this done

[CoilBurner]

You have any ballpark figure of what it will be tuned to or sound like?? Never really see a "calculated" large horn like this

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys :) I used my last bit of resin today layering the side more and expect my 2 more gallons I ordered tomorrow to hopefully have time to fill that top gap and layer a bit more before a competition saturday where I can test this out as far as finding a rough peak etc on this power (still have the 1k hooked up so huge numbers arent be expected)


You have any ballpark figure of what it will be tuned to or sound like?? Never really see a "calculated" large horn like this

In the original post I believe I said all of the calculated specs lol but I predict ~28hz tuning once the 10's go in...with 10.3 cubes net and still the 200 sq inches of port area (a bit large on port area but should be fine with how much drag the port has with the turns etc)

And this isnt a true horn...more like a very large flare on a ported enclosure, so its basically just adding a chunk of port length onto the existing enclosure and funneling everything forwards + cutting off a bunch of airspace in the rear area

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Metered a 145.5 @ 40-43hz today with the Crossfire 1k which was about what I was thinking...going to get the other side of the enclosure/horn sealed up and hopefully a nice little gain from that and some sanding/filling.

More when it happens, hoping to get more work done tomorrow

[salone]

That's some nice work !

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks :)

And I got a bit of work done today. I got the passenger-side of the horn built up a bit near the end of the flare to smooth it out. I also got the driver-side seal piece molded up..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/721cc06f.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/cbe23824.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/ad9440cb.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/b0055053.jpg

[CoilBurner]

**** me thats alot of fiberglass

Happen to have a good chop mat source??

[CoilBurner]

Also are you building these seal pieces to simply mould right into the horn with glass?? Like this in the pic?? Im curious how your gonna tuck it into the door seal or something?? Just curious as I have a wall build coming up and that seams like a good way to seal the sides

http://i44.tinypic.com/akzkzo.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Go back and check out the other side's seal...thats how I plan on doing it lol. I attached it to the cars rubber seal with a silicone adhesive and then fiberglassed over to it to form the seal, like you discribed (i think, minus the tucking into the seal part)

[CoilBurner]

hmm just glued the fiberglass right to the door seal... I would just be worried about the door sealing but you probly already made sure it cleared, thanks for answerring, Probly wont work in my situation though

[Pioneer~Saturn]

And for a chop mat source, check out uscomposites.com

[power-fanatic07]

lookin fabulous

[Annnarbor84]

Noice

[thericanballer]

that is A LOT of work. nice.

[CranberryYumYum]

more more more!

[Ronny]

Looking **** good.
I HAVE to make a stop to Dayton on my way back home for the Summer lol

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks everyone. And come on by, man lol...I just hope I have the 10's and the amp by then so it can actually get loud...even though the 1k is moving stuff darn good imo

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Got the other seal/mouth of the horn started up today...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8b1eac6d.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/c21b6d46.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/bfd073fc.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/688bd932.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/013f1c6a.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/eb93124a.jpg

^One layer of mat over the cloth to get it rigid for more layers. More when it happens...

[KyleBechtold]

did you make the sides a little rounded? I am wondering how stiff they are if not?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Yea, theyre rounded. And I have 2 more gallons to run through just building up the sides and ceiling :) theyre going to be very strong and I probably will get small ropes to run along points to put curves in the glass on the backsides for more strength. And then I plan on deadening the backsides with spectrum but havent finalized that thought yet

[Jaredturp]

This build gets more ****** every day.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks mane :)

[sleazebagger]

when you finish this your gonna need a pair of these...

http://emkaysafty.com/images/year%20plugs/ear%20plugs.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Meh

[CoilBurner]

Any pics of how your gonna seal it to the ceiling???

[528hz]

:handclap::handclap::handclap:

[The HACKER]

I just read the whole build log....and there are no more pages :( POST MORE! and Great job bro :D

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys :)


Any pics of how your gonna seal it to the ceiling???

The top continues all the way to the windshield...it is the ceiling ;) lol

And today I got the other rear window blacked-out and more layers on the drivers side seal/front of the horn...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8e0cac2f.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/796dfc97.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/2f9b1a76.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/a833d190.jpg

[Go2Sleep]

It's getting there... Looking good

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, man :)

[72 chevy van]

looking good i would spray it with some bed liner paint or something once your done building it.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Yea i was originally going to do that but may end up doing the extra sanding and going that extra mile to gain that extra bit with everything smooth.

[Annnarbor84]

Yea i was originally going to do that but may end up doing the extra sanding and going that extra mile to gain that extra bit with everything smooth.

You take the time to make that **** like glass, you will not regret it!!!

[Mike465]

Looks good. This is going to be a pain in the *** to bondo and sand out.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks :) it's definitely going to be work but im aiming to have everything smoothed out, painted, and then clearcoated :)

Alright, the smoothing started today even though I had a big headache to begin with...so I only stayed to work on it for a little bit..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/2ac2e39b.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/1e8cf74d.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d75c2f02.jpg

Hopefully it'll be nice and smooth by the end of the week :)

[rmzsuzuki89]

Looking pretty sick, can't wait to see how it does.

[hatedonmostly]

Come borrow my electric sander. :)

[Blasphemy]

Looking good man. What colour you going to paint it?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks guys, and it'll be painted black with a slick coat of clear resin over it all :) And so far it performs very well. 145.5 @ 40hz legal off of the crossfire 1k I have on the omegas, moves lots of air and is very aggressive on the lows...so, many times the power, more cone area, and everything smoothed and sealed off may get me somewhere lol


Come borrow my electric sander. :)

I have 2 lol, just hand sanding that curve and some into the flat areas

[batvette]

A) I want to see more of this build ASAP!!! The windows came out CLEAN!
B) WTF is ontop of that hurst??? I'm confused!

'Twas in looks, a giant coffin made of a bubble solar roof 4'x10', there was neon lights under all the side bubbles. Roof was completely cut out so you could stand, it had even once had a stripper pole. Skulls, arrows,text that said "fantasy zone" by the side entry. Was originally built and rented as a disco in back of a hearse limo. Chasing leds on parquet floors, etc. Laying on the floor in back and looking up it was just like laying in a coffin, inside were mirrors and velvet. Fog machine, lasers, bubble machine, a rolling party. Stupid me quit drinking within the first year I got it and all of a sudden it wasn't so fun driving around with a car load of drunk friends! Kept it 4 years. Got pulled over a lot by curious cops, some recognized its pimp potential and when my license was suspended for child support arrears, one who pulled me over hoped to seize it from me. He used to drive by my house daily and park up the street if he saw me washing or wrenching it. Funny, his beat was 6 miles away. Many people got just stupid around it, one guy followed me about 100 miles on a trip home from Vegas, staying in my blind spot, just staring.
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/batvette/corvette%20IASCA/Picture009.jpg
Had two sound systems , front setup would have been very competetive in IASCA pro 601+ SQ in the day. Spent 2 months on the mids in the kicks alone, 8s where the cowl vent air enters with birch ply pre-glassed then rivited with aluminum extrusion inside, glassed together again then fully lined with modeling clay then coated with sikaflex to keep the clay in place. Veritas aluminum horns on piano hinges under the dash attached to the now unused vent sliders for angle/height adjustment. what made it was the sheer size of the front cabin and speaker placement, the 8's were same distance to listener as the horn driver outlet almost to the inch.
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/batvette/corvette%20IASCA/Picture016.jpg
You can see the 8's up in the kicks, I had to cut out the old rusted floors here.
Pair of 15's built into a bench seat directly behind driver seat with base and 4 sides jacketed with 3/4" of silica sand I called the "dead box" as it looked like a coffin and the sand jacket, used in mansion A/V systems, has the unique properties of isolating the sub's mechanical movements from the vehicle structure eliminating all buzzing and rattling inherent to motor movement, with simply air pressure being felt. It's really cool if you can do it but not many people want 3-4 hundred pounds of enclosure to tote around.

But anyway sorry to distract from the thread, I do want to comment on saturn owner's reply.
I felt as you felt, that what I wanted at that time was what I would always want. I more or less got it, but things around me, and I, changed and what I wanted at 27 is not even in my rear view at 47 let alone in front of me. I still like to bump a little- in fact the 15's from the hearse are in my Honda Passport now, in a modest system loud enough to cause hearing damage. However we know you don't get back what you put into this stuff and where even stupid people could find work to support themselves in the early 90's we're now seeing savvy, hard working folks ending up on the street pushing shopping carts and this is here to stay. Had I put the money I threw into just one of those cars in a wiser place I would feel much better now, and when you are near 50 "cool" or status is not defined by a slammed 64 with switches but a house mostly paid off so nobody can put your old *** on the street.
And physically having to get bumped from your living situation is tolerable at 27. Most of us who worked for a living AND burnt the midnight oil on our rides, well you WILL be nearly disabled by your 50's compared to today. Even barring accidents and staying in shape.
I, like you, simply could not believe the things I took for granted doing and were easy, would be painful and quickly tire me out in 20 years

Just prepare for all that and remember everything we do, well the last generation pretty much went down that road. Once in awhile we yell back to ya telling you there's a hole to steer around if you can.

I'll some back around to see how that bass horn works for ya, looks very good so far.

John in San Diego

[Qxxx4]

lol wtf

but seriously

Why do you have a block sander in one of those pics?? You need a DA and some 40 grit lol

[HighTQCummins]

I think he's block sanding to keep dust from flying everywhere, not saying block sanding is so much cleaner, but if I had to guess I'd say thats the reason

[Pioneer~Saturn]

I used it for the detail sanding at the mouth of the horn, I had 2 sanders with me that I was mostly using lol

And more bodyfiller and then milkshake'd most of it...I didnt continue the milkshake over because there were parts that still needed more sanding and a little fiberglass built up..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/54258e55.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/44ca2313.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/31678fb7.jpg

Not silky-smooth but will do my best to get it close...more when it happens

[schrummy]

nice work sir...

[lil98cabrio]

thats boooonerrrr-rrific!!!!!

[mxer657]

everytime i look at this thread, i get more and more impressed

dont let this thread die.. someone should sticky it

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, guys :)

[93dakota]

lookin good doug. cant wait to see it when i come home.

[hatedonmostly]

Makin' progress fast!

[CoilBurner]

whats this milkshake you speak of and what is it good for

[cmobley]

Looking very good so far. After just building door pods for all 4 of my doors, I can appreciate the amount of work that goes into glassing anything, especially this large. This may have been answered but how do you calculate the tuning for this horn?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, everyone.

The 'milkshake' I was talking about is just when you mix resin and body filler together. It's used to paint over the surface, filling imperfections and also 'settles' like a liquid so it helps level-out the surface (obviously not really the case on vertical surfaces)

As for calculating the tuning, its still very similar to calculating a normal ported enclosure but you have to mark a point where its most likely to stop acting as effective port length and simply just be a part of the environment ahead. In this case I calculated the effective port length stopping a bit back from where the bottom hump flows into the top of the enclosure. So as the enclosure sits right now with the 18's in it I would probably say im around 27hz tuning and once the 10's go in they will fill up more airspace and raise the tuning to around 28hz as far as I can see, im pretty confident its not far off from those numbers.


lookin good doug. cant wait to see it when i come home.

:santa:

[Pioneer~Saturn]

More layers onto the top..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/2cf7be18.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/df2f75f4.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks :)

And I got some more layers put on the drivers side front of the horn/seal plus more sanding/body filling...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/3102bfca.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/09928ee3.jpg

Filler on the side...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/2feb9f2d.jpg

A bit of sanding and filling...didnt bring the filler upto the front because the glass was still curing at the final curve over to the seal..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8818cf78.jpg

[kmanian]

****, I cant wait till you actually run this thing

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Lol well I am, just on 1kw :(...moves some darn good air for 1k but cant wait for around 10x the power n more cone area...tehehe

[CoilBurner]

vid of it running on 1k??

[lew-e]

man this is insane homie. when i come back to school i am most definitely coming by to check this out. gloss black is going to be **** sick. My favorite build on here for sure

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, lew-e :)

And I may get a vid together if my camera will pick anything up...its terrible on vids but I may have a video camera I can borrow.

[Blasphemy]

****, it's coming together really good.

[orangecounty1]

****, this is one of my favorite builds in a while!!

[Blue Fury]

I can understand you not taking the subs out while doing all this cause it can be a huge PITA, but isn't there a chance that the fumes of the resin might damage the soft parts? What about the sanded off bondo getting into the gaps? Awesome job so far, you really make me wish I had the time and money for this.

[Blasphemy]

****, this is one of my favorite builds in a while!!

x2

[Rawr-DQ]

Looks like fun, I wanna see the numbers when you get full power and some vidsssss... :)

[DDsilverado]

Any more progress?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Sorry, everyone and thanks for the comments. I havent been on here in ages but have some picz to make up for it I think ;) :) :D

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright, the smoothing started even though I had a big headache to begin with...so I only stayed to work on it for a little bit..

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/2ac2e39b.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/1e8cf74d.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/d75c2f02.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/54258e55.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/44ca2313.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/31678fb7.jpg

Not silky-smooth but will do my best to get it close...more when it happens

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Well the amp is here and hoooooly crap this thing's a tank! It's the Audioque 20k and huge props to toolmaker for the copper dual-input terminals.

On with pics!

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/3c87c64a.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/51033a40.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/ccce02b2.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/e1761f69.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/a5f50417.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/816f8d61.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/361e9b35.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/9de28685.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

One of my favorite pics...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/226e3935.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/adc061bc.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/62e1f71d.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/b47c1d8b.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/9f04803b.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Let's see what's inside :D :cool:

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/866d3412.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/86c5543a.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/d63ab9a9.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/2c15e76d.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/ca9513cf.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/6ed41c57.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/e4805e29.jpg

[Pioneer~Saturn]

And got it in and playing yesterday along with its first power clamping! ;)

What I had to start with...crossfire 1k, honestly a very solid amp...but time to move aside...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/633564cf.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/1bc03c6a.jpg

Time to clamp this bish...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/d6b7f5b7.jpg

8233+ watts at 1.925 ohms, baby! :) (on limited electrical for an amp like this)

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/c29956b2.jpg

[Bobby322]

NICE! Hope it doesnt vibrate too much on that box.

[Bobby322]

vids? Have you decided on the 10s yet? edit nevermind I saw the FIs

[pawn man]

looks like an american bass 1100.1. it must be 20k at 18volts.

[Blasphemy]

That amp looks pretty beastly.

[CranberryYumYum]

:)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, everyone...its a freakin tank and a real pain to mount vertically lol...60 pounds.


vids? Have you decided on the 10s yet? edit nevermind I saw the FIs

DC lvl 4's ;) And no vids yet :(...will definitely get on that when I can find my camera or someones around with one.


looks like an american bass 1100.1. it must be 20k at 18volts.

This has been said a lot :( check out the guts ;)



And I got all 12 runs of shok comp cable to the amp today ;) pics in a bit

[misfit138]

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/e4805e29.jpg

I wonder if that's EXACTLY like the DD Z-SE? :)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

I saw a guy holding the new DD and it didnt look as big...

[misfit138]

I saw a guy holding the new DD and it didnt look as big...

You're right. The Audioque is around 8 inches longer than the Z-SE.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Alright, got all 12 runs to the amp today ;)

What I had to start with...yuck.

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/55d6bbca.jpg

Several hours later and sweating like a pig...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/05112373.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/96f2395d.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/2506d241.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/29fa4e42.jpg

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/e9359428.jpg

And what was left of the 50' spool of shok comp cable...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/AQ20k%20Beast/54111bb7.jpg

[rmzsuzuki89]

Looking good, amp is beastly.

How rigid is that fiberglass? I'm thinking about using it in my build to two sections of the inside of my wall, but don't want that to be a weak spot. I was thinking it should be fine after a chit ton of layers haha.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks. And I have it layered up pretty well, its solid. I'll have to watch it closely on some low notes to see if it flexes any though...not very much at all if it is

[rmzsuzuki89]

Thanks. And I have it layered up pretty well, its solid. I'll have to watch it closely on some low notes to see if it flexes any though...not very much at all if it is

O ok. I have been debating on just cutting up some of the mdf I have left or glassing it. It's where the front part of the box connects to the rear, and the way it's set up following the floor makes it a funky angle...I figured since I have access to the mat that is used to make the hulls of boats, maybe I'll put it to use. Or maybe just HD mat if they're out. I was thinking about layering it until it is about an inch to an inch and a half thick. The spots are only about 5"x37".

[IMOVeCHICKENS!]

this is an insane build only thing crazier i ever saw was this ford escort with a single RE xxx 18 in a huge trunk sealed firing into the car enclose on a kicker warhorse thing flexed so ****in much

[DB-Audio]

god amp that amp is huge cant wait to see this complete

[12voltz+-]

DEFF more beefyer then the dd z-se the dd z-se looks similar but the aq20k have another set of 1/0 power and ground inputs as well as another set or rcas and about 8 inches on the dd i guess you could say its a dd z-se on steroids ! lol

[CranberryYumYum]

thought about the new icons? same dustcap as the xcons. if you're running less than 15kw they would probably be happy with that power

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Potentially but Im pretty set with DC unless they can lay down one heck of a deal on them for me...

[bunkerking09]

pioneer - check your pm's.

****

[Go2Sleep]

Wow everything about this build is ridiculous. (in a good way)

Great job, Nice choice of equipment.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, guys. And pm'ed back, bunkerking

[schrummy]

how much did the dual terminals cost.... i might want some....

[Pioneer~Saturn]

how much did the dual terminals cost.... i might want some....

Hit up toolmaker ;) theyre the chit :)

[TAMU]

what kind of numbers did you get out of that audioque 20k.

[misfit138]

what kind of numbers did you get out of that audioque 20k.




Time to clamp this bish...

8233+ watts at 1.925 ohms, baby! :) (on limited electrical for an amp like this)

that

[Pioneer~Saturn]

^Yep, lol. And that was before I had the 12 runs going to it and with the gain not as high as it couldve been ;)

[Ali1]

link to vids? don't want to browse 10+ pages for videos

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Havent taken any vids besides what a buddy took...will upload those over here when he does though.

And today I went and got some fabric paint after seeing a buddy's carpet and it helped a ton...looks way better than my crappy, stained, old carpet..



What I had before..yuck...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/4bfa2056.jpg



Layed down 40 spl tiles before I got the carpet back in...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/5e28aa5b.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/fcdf6704.jpg



Carpet back in and looks tons better imo...



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/ca546012.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/3dabba87.jpg



http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/8dbe5afb.jpg



Still need to detail the living crap out of the interior before slamology but its getting better...

[Andrizzle]

looks awesome..

That amp is retarded.

Simply sick dude..


BTW HURRY THE FAWK UP

[salone]

Updates ?

[thericanballer]

my friend, you are a BEAST! that is all...oh wait, that amp is HUGE

[NMLegend19]

motivation, to say the least.

gonna be incredible when its done.

[Andrizzle]

So is this done yet????

VIDEOS NAO

[Go2Sleep]

Curious on what happened with this build?

[kmanian]

X2

[hypnotiq]

this is one sick build.

[ThatChevyGuy]

I know saturns are have dent resistant panels...

But the real question is...

How easy do they rip?

Awesome build bro, just read it from page 1

[nateberrier]

Bro you live so close that it would be a sin for me not to hear this. Idk when you want to show it off but I would probably pay for a demo lol.

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Hey everyone, I came back here briefly to check out everything and sorry I havent gotten back to this thread.

The long and the short of it is that Ive been laid-off for 3 months now and had to sell the 18" omegas to make due. I still have the 20k, I will never sell it in the foreseeable future and I have really had my sites on 10 10's in a 4th order as soon as funds become available...and of course it will be low as fawk :fro:

I also plan on (further down the road) adding a 2nd 20k when funds become available and either adding batteries or converting to 16v along with upgrading subs to take the power...at which point I think the saturn will be at the peak of it's life and it will be a 2nd car and driven little to preserve it (probably driven once a week or so and to comps etc)...it just clicked over 196k miles yesterday and still purrin along though :)

I'll keep everyone informed but since the lay-off there hasnt been too much going on with her other than the 20k being out and my 15" tc9 being put in seeing around 13.15ish cubes net on my crossfire 1k lol...sounds great but, as youd suspect, can bottom-out in a heartbeat.

When real stuff happens I shall post it though :cool:

[kmanian]

sorry to hear about your lay off. I hope it turns around for ya soon

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks. I just had an interview with a custom counter-top place that really liked what they saw with my resume/the work I should them with enclosures and whatnot...if I land that job this upcoming 10 10s build could start soon than people people would expect :) but we shall see how this turns out...

[Litunerkid]

layoffs FTL! looking forward to the future on tis

[Boldtothemax]

Awesome build, one of the best I have seen in a long time my friend.

You have always impressed me with your builds though, but still, this was amazing!

***** to hear you got laid off, happens a lot in these days. At least you seem to have a solid resume, so I am sure something will be on your plate before long......and of course the finish of this build.

Cant wait to see it and glad to hear you are doing well. I havent been on here in sometime due to the mods being ban happy back in the day.

Keep on keeping dood, awesome build again. Peace!

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Thanks, i appreciated it.

[BrownVanMan]

get the job?

[Random1010]

What subs are you going to use?

[Pioneer~Saturn]

get the job?

havent gotten a call from them yet but got calls from others and may go ahead and take them just so I have a job...


What subs are you going to use?

Tehehe, get to work :)

[Pioneer~Saturn]

Woh woh woh...my bad everyone. I came back to this thread not realizing I didnt post vids :( sorry about that...here they iz...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/th_2fd5189e.jpg (http://s714.photobucket.com/albums/ww142/TheSatty/?action=view&current=2fd5189e.mp4)

^I liked how she flinched back a bit when teh lowz came in :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqCKAuWbRqw&feature=related

^Skip to 2:45...the first part of the section that has the satty in it doesnt look very impressive but the hairtrick comin after it is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsp-6W1UhQA

^Ok vid

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/mattastick/Slamology%202010/th_DSCN0404.jpg (http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/mattastick/Slamology%202010/?action=view&current=DSCN0404.mp4)

^My Dad came the 2nd day of slamology and got his first demo of the saturn...didnt last too long lol. Sorry I kept using the same song but I love the lows in it.

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/mattastick/Slamology%202010/th_DSCN0411.jpg (http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/mattastick/Slamology%202010/?action=view&current=DSCN0411.mp4)

^Note that the drivers window was down for this as well as the door being open :)

[stangman67]

man, looks vicious