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skydeaner
03-11-2010, 01:00 AM
So i haven't had my pioneer deh-p880prs and i am missing it real bad right now due to the fact that this sony deck is the source of my alternator whine due to horrible filtering in the power supply I assume. So i started poking around on the major websites and there still aren't any manufacturer's other than pioneer that make a full 3 way active capable deck anywhere near the price range of the 880/800prs. WTF?! Why? What is so tough. That closest thing i could find was the alpine unit *number slips my mind* but then you have to get the expensive *** imprint kit to go along with it. Doesn't come out to be anywhere near the 300 bucks i could get an 880 for new. Am i missing some units, or is there really no other option? I don't mind the 880 it was really good to me. I was just thinking maybe there is something with some different styling, plus i always like trying new things (unless they're gay lol).

adio25
03-11-2010, 01:01 AM
Pioneer has a replacement for the prs coming out soon, but I think the price was really high not sure. Might wanna check into that one.

skydeaner
03-11-2010, 01:05 AM
I'm not gonna spend over 280 bucks. It just isn't necessary since the 880 offers everything i need. I just like brand choice ya know. Like when i got my tv. I spent a couple grand on an lcd 46" class. Top of the line tv's from Samsung, sony, toshiba, hitachi, etc. All had the features i wanted, but i chose the samsung because i liked how it looked the best. I just want to be able to do that with a 3 way active capable deck lol.

alex95sl2
03-11-2010, 01:07 AM
try looking at eclipse??

Andrew12
03-11-2010, 01:10 AM
I love my 880prs. I have serious alt whine going on right now and I've narrowed it down to my pioneer headunit but I refuse to sell it lol. The guys at the local shop told me out of all of their Alpines, Eclipse's and Clarions that there was nothing that competes with my Pioneer. I'm just keeping the volume up high enough to drown out the whine haha

keep_hope_alive
03-11-2010, 01:58 AM
^grounding the RCA shield did nothing to fix the issue?

benzmansl65amg
03-11-2010, 02:06 AM
What about that new kenwood. The 994 excelon

benzmansl65amg
03-11-2010, 02:07 AM
Kenwood Excelon KDC-X994 CD receiver at Crutchfield Signature (http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_113KDCX994/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X994.html?search=kdc-x994&ssi=0&tp=27783)

skydeaner
03-11-2010, 02:24 AM
I'll have to check out that kenwood to make sure, thanks for the suggestion dude. I love the look of it for sure.

Andrew12
03-11-2010, 02:34 AM
^grounding the RCA shield did nothing to fix the issue?

Not yet, I was thinking about doing it tomorrow, but im lazy

Andrew12
03-11-2010, 02:35 AM
^grounding the RCA shield did nothing to fix the issue?

double toast

skydeaner
03-11-2010, 02:40 AM
Lol yeah i blew a pico fuse on my 880 and internally repaired it, and no more noise after that. ****in with my amp without disconnecting the battery again like a retard.

But that kenwood deck doesn't do anywhere near 3 way active, so it's out.

Lil Poot
03-11-2010, 02:46 AM
theres a clarion unit, i think its dxz775 or something... is capable of FOUR way active for well under 200 new. theres also the dxz955, which is 3 way capable, the alpine 9887, the eclipse 7000 series... more than a couple.

Andrew12
03-11-2010, 02:49 AM
Lol yeah i blew a pico fuse on my 880 and internally repaired it, and no more noise after that. ****in with my amp without disconnecting the battery again like a retard.

But that kenwood deck doesn't do anywhere near 3 way active, so it's out.

how hard was it to get inside and replace the fuse?

keep_hope_alive
03-11-2010, 03:11 AM
my understanding is that it's not a fuse but a diode. Pioneer will repair it by using a diode with a higher rating. just grounding the RCA shield in lieu of replacing the diode is just as effective.

if you have a soldering iron with a small tip, replacing it is easy.

James Bang
03-11-2010, 03:30 AM
I wish the eclipse cd7200 mkii was still available...

What the 880prs has over it is the L/R EQ though.

rc10mike
03-11-2010, 03:39 AM
The 880/800PRS is very very hard to beat...

keep_hope_alive
03-11-2010, 03:40 AM
The DEH-P980BT has almost the same features as the 880PRS. I recently installed one with the CD-UB100. I liked the unit overall, on the scope the pre-outs were free from any clipping or distortion at full volume. The owner seems to like some of the flexibility and built-in features. Too bad it ***** at reading USB drives with any quickness or the ability to display all of the characters. it can't do .wav though. I had to contact Pioneer customer support to verify .wav capability. they eventually put me in touch with Pioneer Premier dealer tech support, nice guys.

the main problem with the 7200mkII was the ugly face that required a funny opening to motorize. But a nice piece for SQ.

the DEX-99RS should be a nice, but expensive, replacement.

galacticmonkey
03-11-2010, 05:03 AM
Somebody needs to sell me a ******* 880PRS.

Lil Poot
03-11-2010, 06:19 AM
mines in the closet... i'll probably use it when i bring the trans am out of the garage this summer :D

Sleeklsc
03-11-2010, 06:49 AM
my 8600 had the noise....i wraped thin wire around all 6 preouts (once connected to the ones leading to the trunk) and grounded the wire to the center bolt behilnd the unit....worked for me.

Andrew12
03-11-2010, 11:02 PM
my understanding is that it's not a fuse but a diode. Pioneer will repair it by using a diode with a higher rating. just grounding the RCA shield in lieu of replacing the diode is just as effective.

if you have a soldering iron with a small tip, replacing it is easy.

I actually got the RCA's grounded today and it almost completely eliminated the noise. You can barely hear it when the car is totally silent because of my power acoustik tweeters, I'm so happy now!

skydeaner
03-12-2010, 12:31 AM
Yeah it does the exact same thing as the pico fuse (really a diode yes) except offers no protection to the head unit... so grats for gettin it done, i bet it is much more enjoyable now lol. So who here has an eclipse 7100 and doesn't like it? I wanna hear some bad stuff about it to talk me out of it being my final choice. If seperate left/right eq is all it is missing on the 880, then my mind is made up, because i think they look super ****.

edit: Eh nevermind, looks like the 7100 doesn't have as much control as the 880prs. And the clarion is way too expensive and not playing mp3's is a huge **** in the ***.

So.... still only the 880 as the king of the game. Oh well, it looks pretty sleek anyways.

texicanz
03-12-2010, 12:53 AM
the panasonic cq-c9901u is a pretty good headunit

Blue Fury
03-12-2010, 12:57 AM
I really doubt the sony HU is the cause of your alt whine.. most likely install error.

keep_hope_alive
03-12-2010, 01:13 AM
i suppose instead of grounding the RCA shields, you could just install the proper diode between the shield and ground. i'll ask Pioneer what they recommend for a diode.

quins90lac
03-12-2010, 02:56 AM
I just got an 8600 and all i can say is wow.

Jh8909
03-12-2010, 04:35 AM
theres a clarion unit, i think its dxz775 or something... is capable of FOUR way active for well under 200 new. theres also the dxz955, which is 3 way capable, the alpine 9887, the eclipse 7000 series... more than a couple.

i think you have things a little scred up here. the clarion drz 9255 is 4 way capable and is discontinued. if there was a 4 way actice unit for under $200 new my problems would be over

Sleeklsc
03-12-2010, 04:40 AM
I just got an 8600 and all i can say is wow.



they are very nice.....so many eq options, awesome display, 4 v preouts......def my favorite deck ever.

quins90lac
03-12-2010, 05:13 AM
$250 off of egay . The ******* ***** didn't send the trim ring at first then when i got it it was all fucked up now i have to get a new one for it. O well its still a kick *** HU

skydeaner
03-13-2010, 01:25 AM
I really doubt the sony HU is the cause of your alt whine.. most likely install error.

LOL ok buddy. I have even ran dedicated power, ground, and rca's outside of the vehicle and still get alt whine from the deck. And if i use my mp3 player as my source without running though my deck, directly to my amps i get no whine. There is no other option than the deck...

Don't post in my threads and make me out to be a newb, it's just rude. It's not like a created a thread asking you to help me with my alt whine. I know what is the cause of it, i don't need your help.

rumblefish
03-13-2010, 02:21 PM
I swapped out my 880 for the Alpine 9887 because I wanted something new. That was about a year and 1/2 ago. I still can't get the Alpine to sound as good as the 880. I am seriously thinking about putting it back in. I am torn though, the Alpine looks great and the Ipod and Sub level are better than the Pioneer. I guess I need to decide if I want better sound or more convience!

RAM_Designs
03-13-2010, 03:25 PM
I never liked my 880, I'll stick with older Eclipse 8V decks for now.

shattered_dream
03-13-2010, 06:58 PM
Donīt wonder, hte 9887 is crap.... Tested it against my Eclipse 8445 an the Pioneer P-88-RS-II (is the european P880) and it sounded like s**t when compared with the other two..... No dynamic, not smooth, nothing...

nismos14
03-23-2010, 01:09 PM
Kenwood Excelon KDC-X994 CD receiver at Crutchfield Signature (http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_113KDCX994/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X994.html?search=kdc-x994&ssi=0&tp=27783)

Has more features but nothing like the 880/800 dissimilar in eq/crossover so it is NOT a contender.


theres a clarion unit, i think its dxz775 or something... is capable of FOUR way active for well under 200 new. theres also the dxz955, which is 3 way capable, the alpine 9887, the eclipse 7000 series... more than a couple.

No, the 775/785 can only do 3-way HOWEVER it does have a bandpass for the low end driver so one could do a 3-way active front stage WITHOUT sub. The DRZ9255 does 4-way active, NOT the DXZ, two totally different units.


the panasonic cq-c9901u is a pretty good headunit

Not even in the same league.


i think you have things a little scred up here. the clarion drz 9255 is 4 way capable and is discontinued. if there was a 4 way actice unit for under $200 new my problems would be over

BINGO

cleansoundzz
03-23-2010, 04:56 PM
Try the Alpine CDA 117

nismos14
03-23-2010, 04:58 PM
117 does not COMPARE to this HU, get real.

cleansoundzz
03-23-2010, 05:31 PM
I used the 880 and 800 and the IPOD interface is much much better on the CDA 117 and the sound is the exact same. I will admit that the 880 is an awesome unit and sounded excellent but the CDA 117 sounds every bit as good. It puts the 9887 to shame.

Here is a recent review on the unit.
http://pasmag.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1516&Itemid=104

nismos14
03-23-2010, 06:20 PM
The ipod issue is not a factor the eq and crossover on the 880 is leaps and bounds over the 117. Of course it will sound the same, the ipod dacs are being used.

cleansoundzz
03-23-2010, 06:33 PM
The ipod issue is not a factor the eq and crossover on the 880 is leaps and bounds over the 117. Of course it will sound the same, the ipod dacs are being used.

The IPOD DAC is not being used on the CDA 117. It has been upgraded on the 117. The Burr Brown 24 DAC also applies to the IPOD sound. That is the major difference between the 9886, 9887 with this year's CDA 117. Yes you are right the EQ and crossover setting on the 880 PRS are better and you do not need to use imprint to access those options. However, having used both the 880 PRS is not leaps and bounds over the CDA 117. To me to access the IPOD and scroll through the songs on the 880 was a pain in the *** and not worth it in the end. The differences between the 880 and 117 balance out nicely, in the end the sound is all that matters.

Trey803
03-23-2010, 06:46 PM
mine has been the best HU I have ever owned since day one and still going strong

papermaker
03-29-2010, 08:33 PM
those RCA grounds aren't to be grounded om both ends, you ground one side to the unit and leave the other end open, if you still have noise try using a isolated ground on the other end..
its most likely a ground loop between the amp and the cd player try using the same ground for both devices and see if that helps..
if that doesn't work try regrounding your alt and or your battery..

papermaker
03-29-2010, 08:36 PM
btw ive heard the 880 and my x991 has superior DACs and much stronger preamps..
i volt you get a x693 and a external xover check arc, audio control memphis and SS.....