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ButtaMax
02-12-2010, 04:18 PM
I got this box made by Mike, AmiCreations.

The enclosure is 2cf, 30x14x15, 2cft tuned to 34hz, 25 sq inches of port, birch, double baffled, countersunk, 45 corners, rounded ports, and resin coated.

This is the short build log, if you care to see the complete pic by pic build:
http://www.mwcaraudio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=889

initial drawing I sent to Mike, he turned THIS
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/box.jpg

into THAT
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/Dual_JL_W7_8_Box.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/p5.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/p8.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/p9.jpg

ButtaMax
02-12-2010, 04:22 PM
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/p19.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/p15.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/p21.jpg

ButtaMax
02-12-2010, 04:24 PM
;):crazy:

ButtaMax
02-12-2010, 04:29 PM
happy happy joyjoy

not for nothing, it looked so pretty naked it was almost ashame to cover it!

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/IMG00436-20100120-1537.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/IMG00438-20100120-1537.jpg

ButtaMax
02-12-2010, 04:34 PM
installed..
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/8w7005.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/8w7007.jpg

PPI D3000/1 & A1200.4
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/8w7010.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u40/malik3404/8w7011.jpg

RAM_Designs
02-12-2010, 04:36 PM
Slick work.

ButtaMax
02-12-2010, 04:43 PM
thank yous!

Mike, AmiCreations (enclosure) was a great guy to work with, first class all the way! He let me make change after change, I know I was a PITA, THANKS AGAIN BRO!

OldOneEye, (amps) thanks again for working with me on the amps when I didnt have all the cash!

Toxic Tuan, (mids/hi's) we had a issue, you solved it quickly could not have asked for anything more, the comps sound great.

JH8909 (deadening), gave a SIC $$ on like 30ft enough to double up on my doors!

These are great guys to deal with DO NOT hesitate dealing with these dudes. Quick EZ PZ transactions!

Now back to breaking in these subs, there tight like virgins!

twistedchild420
02-12-2010, 04:47 PM
Nice! Bet it's loud....got any vids?

ButtaMax
02-12-2010, 04:55 PM
Soon, my installer said take it EZ for a couple weeks and killed my gains (there sitting @11 oclock/40%). He said that PPI d3000/1 (1200 watts@ 1.5ohms) could blow up those 8's without blinking.

I guess he KNEW what I was gonna do! Its only been like 4 days since the install.... Ill see him in a couple weeks for a retune and gain adjustment(60/75% gains if im lucky) for MAX output "according to him"

At first I thought BS, but I rather listen and be safe then SORRY... lord knows I dont wanna blow anything up

O.G. D-Wet
02-18-2010, 06:40 PM
i guess this is a n00b question but why not MDF or HDF?

RAM_Designs
02-18-2010, 06:47 PM
The good plywood is stronger and lighter...cheap stuff from Home Depot, not so much.

RAM_Designs
02-18-2010, 06:49 PM
Also, I'm still curious why he needed to do 3 layers on the baffle...no need for that IMO.

on1wheel01
02-18-2010, 10:05 PM
I still wonder why this is in enclosure help. But nice box man

ButtaMax
02-22-2010, 08:46 PM
Also, I'm still curious why he needed to do 3 layers on the baffle...no need for that IMO.

Its only doubled baffeled, the 3rd layer is purely cosmetic for a flusher look. Maybe you wanna look a wee bit closer...


I still wonder why this is in enclosure help. But nice box man

I put it in the wrong section, SHOOT me!

Mookie
02-22-2010, 08:54 PM
Great skills brahh.

RAM_Designs
02-22-2010, 09:01 PM
Its only doubled baffeled, the 3rd layer is purely cosmetic for a flusher look. Maybe you wanna look a wee bit closer...


I knew the 3rd was flush, but it's still 3 layers all the way and 2 where the subs mount...just not necessary, they're 8" subs not monster 15's.

misfit138
02-22-2010, 09:03 PM
nice enclosure.

The triple baffle is overkill, but looks nice regardless...

ButtaMax
02-23-2010, 08:56 AM
I knew the 3rd was flush, but it's still 3 layers all the way and 2 where the subs mount...just not necessary, they're 8" subs not monster 15's.

Its not necessary to you, but then again its not your box!

Your opinion is your opinion, we all have one, even if we only talking about 1/2 sheet of wood! (maybe)

If I wanted a big stupid 15, I could have had that as well. But I guess calling 15's stupid is my opinion..

guess you can find fault in anything if you look hard enough...

Thanks for the insightful input bro.

RAM_Designs
02-23-2010, 01:46 PM
Its not necessary to you, but then again its not your box!

Your opinion is your opinion, we all have one, even if we only talking about 1/2 sheet of wood! (maybe)

If I wanted a big stupid 15, I could have had that as well. But I guess calling 15's stupid is my opinion..

guess you can find fault in anything if you look hard enough...

Thanks for the insightful input bro.

Getting a little defensive? I'm stating that the double baffle with a third to flush mount is not needed for a pair of 8W7's, especially when it's a relatively long and skinny baffle...there's no denying that, it's just not necessary. Baffle stability would no be an issue with a single mounting baffle and a flush baffle. The only way it would be necessary is if you were worried about the subs stripping screws out of a single sheet of plywood, which in this case, would not be an issue. I'm more worried about if the builder told you that it WAS necessary to have 3 layers in order to charge you more for the build.

Can you tell me why it IS necessary? What exactly are you benefiting from having three layers as opposed to two? Why did the builder recommend it(if he did)?

ButtaMax
02-23-2010, 06:33 PM
Not defensive at all, just wondering why you care so much?

No, Mike @ AmiCreations did exactly what I asked him to do! And Im wise enough not to let anyone talk me into anythng to jack the $$$, its a pure buyers market on any service @ the moment. Futhermore, why are you so concerned at what I paid?

Frankly he undercharged me for this piece, considering he has a price list for size and other upgrades that he did/does. Before he started this build I started a thread "whats this worth" and all the feedback was $300+ for his design and build, lets just say I paid nowhere near that!

No, I did not want a single baffel, I wanted double, and countersunk just like I got. I should have it single b/c you said so?

Dayum dude I guess a single .75' thick peice of Birch bothers you that much, maybe I should trash the whole enclosure.. Must be a slow day on caraudio.com...

Are you jealous of Mikes work?

BTW, to answer your question its necessary b/c thats what I wanted, hows that!

RAM_Designs
02-23-2010, 06:58 PM
Not defensive at all
The rest of your post says otherwise.


just wondering why you care so much?

No, Mike @ AmiCreations did exactly what I asked him to do! And Im wise enough not to let anyone talk me into anythng to jack the $$$, its a pure buyers market on any service @ the moment. Futhermore, why are you so concerned at what I paid?

Frankly he undercharged me for this piece, considering he has a price list for size and other upgrades that he did/does. Before he started this build I started a thread "whats this worth" and all the feedback was $300+ for his design and build, lets just say I paid nowhere near that!

No, I did not want a single baffel, I wanted double, and countersunk just like I got. I should have it single b/c you said so?

Dayum dude I guess a single .75' thick peice of Birch bothers you that much, maybe I should trash the whole enclosure.. Must be a slow day on caraudio.com...

Are you jealous of Mikes work?

BTW, to answer your question its necessary b/c thats what I wanted, hows that!


You're still avoiding the points and questions I was asking. I asked how are you benefiting from it over a standard flush mount style and all you came up with is that's how you wanted it...which is fine, but it still isn't answering why it needed to be that way, period. Because it simply doesn't.

I'm confused on the "trash the whole enclosure" comment...makes no sense. Apparently a single plywood baffle bothers you, which would make your statement true for yourself, and not for me.

I'm not jealous of Mike's work. I realize he does great work, better than what I can do as far as finishing and little details like flush mounting go. Other than that, building a box is building a box; once you can make a solid box it's the finishing details that really set them apart...which I really don't care to do for myself.


I'll be patiently waiting your over-aggressive response.

Jh8909
02-23-2010, 07:04 PM
cool stuff man, glad everything worked out for ya.

cotjones
02-23-2010, 07:07 PM
A thicker box or baffle is 100% always better if it doesn't create a space issue. I'm sure you'd consider it overkill to fill the walls of your car will cement, but some people do that. Thicker is always better, And it allows for much less vibration born noise from the baffle= I bet it sounds like ***.

Leave people alone how bout?

Op, sick box!

RAM_Designs
02-23-2010, 07:12 PM
A thicker box or baffle is 100% always better if it doesn't create a space issue. I'm sure you'd consider it overkill to fill the walls of your car will cement, but some people do that. Thicker is always better, And it allows for much less vibration born noise from the baffle= I bet it sounds like ***.

Leave people alone how bout?

Op, sick box!

But a triple baffle for a pair of 8's...really?

And the cement serves a purpose, I fail to see how a third baffle would be any less audible than a double baffle(or even a well braced single baffle in this case). I'd understand doing two baffles because he wanted the flush mount look, but three is just not needed. I highly doubt he was thinking about keeping baffle resonance to a minimum whenever deciding to do three.

Buck
02-23-2010, 07:14 PM
Nice looking box. How do the 8"s sound? I helped my buddy put in a 10w7 recently, and it sounded pretty good. I was impressed.

cotjones
02-23-2010, 07:19 PM
But a triple baffle for a pair of 8's...really?

And the cement serves a purpose, I fail to see how a third baffle would be any less audible than a double baffle(or even a well braced single baffle in this case). I'd understand doing two baffles because he wanted the flush mount look, but three is just not needed. I highly doubt he was thinking about keeping baffle resonance to a minimum whenever deciding to do three.

Maybe not, but i'm like, who cares? Its better, not worse, even if the difference is marginal.

And those little 8's are some heavy and excursive fvckers, btw

RAM_Designs
02-23-2010, 07:28 PM
Maybe not, but i'm like, who cares? Its better, not worse, even if the difference is marginal.

And those little 8's are some heavy and excursive fvckers, btw

I don't care if it's three or not. I simply gave my opinion on the box(after saying it looked nice), which was "three is not needed" and got chastised for it even though someone else said the same thing. The OP started coming on the offensive and trying to make some sort of point(while insulting my ability to see, apparently...even though it is a triple baffle, the subs are just mounted the two of them); all he had to say was that he wanted it that way and it would have been over. He was the argumentative one from the get go, I just went along with it because it was fun. :D