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alleneagles
02-08-2010, 11:16 AM
I'm looking to get new speakers for my '02 Mustang and I can't decide between these two:

Pioneer TS-A6882R (tsa6882r) 6" x 8" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11133_Pioneer+TS-A6882R.html)

Pioneer TS-D6802R (tsd6802r) 6" x 8" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11270_Pioneer+TS-D6802R.html)

I've got a JVC KD-HDR20 head unit and don't plan to get subs. Can anyone help?

misfit138
02-08-2010, 11:18 AM
If you aren't going to amp the speakers or add a subwoofer, it makes little difference. In fact, you'd probably be better off with your stock speakers....unless they're blown.

soloXgt
02-08-2010, 11:20 AM
why not 5 1/4? fits just as well and a LOT more choices

Buck
02-08-2010, 11:21 AM
If you aren't going to use an amp I wouldn't even worry about changing speakers.

kirk
02-08-2010, 07:18 PM
Come on....cut the guy some slack. Maybe he's using stock speakers or he doesn't want or can't afford an amp.

misfit138
02-08-2010, 07:25 PM
Come on....cut the guy some slack. Maybe he's using stock speakers or he doesn't want or can't afford an amp.

We gave the guy an honest answer. If you aren't going to amp your speakers, there's no point in purcashing them in the first place. His factory cd player's internal amp might be 5 - 10 watt rms. With such a small amount of power, what's the point in "upgrading" your speakers?

Bfat567
02-08-2010, 07:27 PM
We gave the guy an honest answer. If you aren't going to amp your speakers, there's no point in purcashing them in the first place. His factory cd player's internal amp might be 5 - 10 watt rms. With such a small amount of power, what's the point in "upgrading" your speakers?

He says in the first post he has a jvc headunit.

Slo_Ride
02-08-2010, 07:28 PM
If you aren't going to amp the speakers or add a subwoofer, it makes little difference. In fact, you'd probably be better off with your stock speakers....unless they're blown.

This is true. It can end up sounding worse than your stock speakers in some cases. Especially laking mid bass. Just trying to help, I've seen it before several times.

misfit138
02-08-2010, 07:29 PM
He says in the first post he has a jvc headunit.

My mistake. I haven't revisited the opening post since I first read it...

EDIT: Even if it is an aftermarket cd player, the internal amplifier is likely 10 - 15 watts per channel (if that). My point is still pretty valid...

Slo_Ride
02-08-2010, 07:30 PM
Something with low rms such as
Kicker DS68 6" x 8" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_3575_Kicker+DS68.html)

Slo_Ride
02-08-2010, 07:32 PM
or these
Pioneer TS-G6842R (tsg6842r) 6" x 8" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_12356_Pioneer+TS-G6842R.html)

kirk
02-08-2010, 07:36 PM
He has an 02 Mustang ....maybe the speakers are blown.

Slo_Ride
02-08-2010, 07:59 PM
If running off only the headunit just look with something with a low rms. Unless you plan to upgrade to an amp in the near future.

Chrispy
02-08-2010, 10:53 PM
Or a high sensitivity. But I agree if you're not amping them what's the point.

omgi0wn
02-08-2010, 11:30 PM
If I get the alpine iDA-X305 which puts out 18 W x 4 RMS, will it blow my stock speakers in my car? I have a 2002 Ford Taurus SES Deluxe. Also, would it be wise for me to upgrade to these: Pioneer TS-D6802R (tsd6802r) 6" x 8" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11270_Pioneer+TS-D6802R.html)

I know they have high RMS, but wouldn't it still be louder and better than my stock speakers, since they need to be able to keep up a little with my 15" SDC2.5 that I'm putting in.

Slo_Ride
02-08-2010, 11:34 PM
If I get the alpine iDA-X305 which puts out 18 W x 4 RMS, will it blow my stock speakers in my car? I have a 2002 Ford Taurus SES Deluxe. Also, would it be wise for me to upgrade to these: Pioneer TS-D6802R (tsd6802r) 6" x 8" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11270_Pioneer+TS-D6802R.html)

I know they have high RMS, but wouldn't it still be louder and better than my stock speakers, since they need to be able to keep up a little with my 15" SDC2.5 that I'm putting in.

threadjackmuch? but the answer to your question is no.

omgi0wn
02-08-2010, 11:38 PM
Hey I figured I'd post here rather than start a new thread, and thanks. I guess as long as I don't blow my stock speakers I won't get new ones.

Slo_Ride
02-08-2010, 11:40 PM
Hey I figured I'd post here rather than start a new thread, and thanks. I guess as long as I don't blow my stock speakers I won't get new ones.

i was just messing with you. The stocks should sound better with the alpine.

omgi0wn
02-08-2010, 11:48 PM
Alright, thanks man. I'm just hoping they can take high volumes without plowing from the new HU, since I'm gonna want to blast it cause of the bass.

misfit138
02-09-2010, 12:13 AM
Alright, thanks man. I'm just hoping they can take high volumes without plowing from the new HU, since I'm gonna want to blast it cause of the bass.

Yeah, you're going to need to upgrade your front stage & add an amplifier...

Villeza1
02-09-2010, 12:14 AM
Yeah, you're going to need to upgrade your front stage & add an amplifier...

x2

Good info here

omgi0wn
02-09-2010, 12:19 AM
Ugh. Ok, if I went with these speakers: Pioneer TS-D6802R (tsd6802r) 6" x 8" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11270_Pioneer+TS-D6802R.html)

What amp would you recommend and how is that particular amp?

misfit138
02-09-2010, 12:28 AM
Ugh. Ok, if I went with these speakers: Pioneer TS-D6802R (tsd6802r) 6" x 8" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11270_Pioneer+TS-D6802R.html)

What amp would you recommend and how is that particular amp?

You could've bought a nice pair of Rockford Fosgate T152S components for $15 more. :fyi:

omgi0wn
02-09-2010, 12:41 AM
I haven't bought anything yet :P.

misfit138
02-09-2010, 12:51 AM
I haven't bought anything yet :P.

I haven't slept in a very long time, man. You've gotta overlook me sometimes.

Take a look at these: Rockford Fosgate Power T152S 5-1/4" Component Systems - eBay (item 350314565737 end time Mar-09-10 21:29:51 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rockford-Fosgate-Power-T152S-5-1-4-Component-Systems_W0QQitemZ350314565737QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCa r_Speakers?hash=item5190601069)

I have 4 pairs of these components and have no problem saying they're much nicer than their $100 pricetag. If you properly deaden and seal your doors, they'll give you pretty nice midbass. They're built like a tank too...

Villeza1
02-09-2010, 12:54 AM
I haven't slept in a very long time, man. You've gotta overlook me sometimes.

Take a look at these: Rockford Fosgate Power T152S 5-1/4" Component Systems - eBay (item 350314565737 end time Mar-09-10 21:29:51 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rockford-Fosgate-Power-T152S-5-1-4-Component-Systems_W0QQitemZ350314565737QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCa r_Speakers?hash=item5190601069)

I have 4 pairs of these components and have no problem saying they're much nicer than their $100 pricetag. If you properly deaden and seal your doors, they'll give you pretty nice midbass. They're built like a tank too...

Hmm, research time...

EDIT: Ok, research over with. Looks like a great buy IMO.

Supergumby5000
02-09-2010, 04:24 PM
everyone saying that he needs to upgrade to an amplifer to get better output are all *********.

if you are going off of headunit power, find a low RMS driver with a low frequency response, and you WILL have better output. standard speakers in those fords are horrible (im forced to use them at the moment)

From personal experience, kicker has a few 20-30rms drivers that perform very well on low power. I would look there first.

misfit138
02-09-2010, 04:29 PM
everyone saying that he needs to upgrade to an amplifer to get better output are all *********.

So, a pair of 20 - 30 watt rms Kicker coaxials are on par with an amplified set of properly installed components? News to me. It's good to know this information, though. It'll save me a fortune in the future...

Supergumby5000
02-09-2010, 04:31 PM
So, a pair of 20 - 30 watt rms Kicker coaxials are on par with an amplified set of properly installed components? News to me. It's good to know this information, though. It'll save me a fortune in the future...

lol, did i say that at all? Learn how to read. i am telling the dumb****s who said it's futile to replace stock speakers without adding an amp that they are wrong.

he wanted to replace his ****** speakers, not spend more $$$ and do a full fronstage revamp.

ford stock, standard speakers rate out to 4RMS. Fact: most 20rms drivers (such as the kicker, im not talking **** speakers here), WILL outperform those speakers off of headunit power.

misfit138
02-09-2010, 06:14 PM
lol, did i say that at all? Learn how to read. i am telling the dumb****s who said it's futile to replace stock speakers without adding an amp that they are wrong.

he wanted to replace his ****** speakers, not spend more $$$ and do a full fronstage revamp.

ford stock, standard speakers rate out to 4RMS. Fact: most 20rms drivers (such as the kicker, im not talking **** speakers here), WILL outperform those speakers off of headunit power.

I know how to read, ********. I was joking, but I guess that was lost on your superior intellect.

jeez.

But I did recommend amping some decent replacement speakers, so I guess I'm one of the *********...

omgi0wn
02-09-2010, 06:31 PM
If headunit power is 18x4, does that mean each speaker is getting 18 watts? And shouldn't those speakers easily outperform the stock ford speakers if so?

misfit138
02-09-2010, 06:38 PM
If headunit power is 18x4, does that mean each speaker is getting 18 watts? And shouldn't those speakers easily outperform the stock ford speakers if so?

If the cd player is giving them a true 18 watts rms each (which is debatable), and the speakers have low power handling, it'll be a small upgrade over stock speakers. Buying & amping higher quality speakers is a significant upgrade that'll yield more volume and better midbass.

Whether you want your upgrade to be small or significant is up to you...

kirk
02-09-2010, 07:23 PM
lol, did i say that at all? Learn how to read. i am telling the dumb****s who said it's futile to replace stock speakers without adding an amp that they are wrong.

he wanted to replace his ****** speakers, not spend more $$$ and do a full fronstage revamp.

ford stock, standard speakers rate out to 4RMS. Fact: most 20rms drivers (such as the kicker, im not talking **** speakers here), WILL outperform those speakers off of headunit power.

Exactly the point I was trying to make at the beginning of this thread......Some guys just don't get it.

misfit138
02-09-2010, 07:43 PM
Some guys just don't get it.

What is there to get, newbie? Running some coaxials on deck power is going to yield ****** midbass and the speakers are going to distort like hell at high volumes. Why bother?