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hornedfrog1985
01-25-2010, 04:10 PM
I got banned on the other forum after sending a private message to the RD Audio rep there about my missing subwoofer and blown amp... I'm just trying to find out what parts I need aside from FETs to fix my amp. It's still on the test bench at work (I work at an electronics company).

I'm out nearly $800, still waiting for Steve to make it right. No subwoofer after 5 months, it's gone from an Elite (originally an alpha, and I paid $100 to upgrade it to an Elite) to an Alpha Long Excursion. I heard it had been shipped over a week ago, I'm supposed to get a tracking number today, but Steve's cell phone is off.

I don't wanna go to a lawyer in Georgia I know, or the state attorney generals office, I'm trying to give Steve a chance, here. This is just getting rediculous though, he gave me his word he'd set me up to get a tracking number today and mail me a new amp in a week or so.

-the cthulhu

jerseyboy
01-25-2010, 04:11 PM
wow!! that *****. that guy really messed up a lot from what I see/hear..

hornedfrog1985
01-25-2010, 04:14 PM
Figured I'd start posting these every so often. Its not just the amps. He is a THIEF. He is stealing peoples money, and should be fully prosecuted.

bubbagumper6
01-25-2010, 04:16 PM
If only we had a central thread where we can post about RD...

Oh wait!

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/thunderdome/447146-lol-@-rd-audio-if-rd-owes-you-something-rd-super-fail-topic.html

We do >_>

hornedfrog1985
01-25-2010, 04:18 PM
That is a jumbled mess of garbage. I think RD scammed me should have its own forum section. It blows my mind people are still giving this douche money/forums to run his scam operation on.

yikes vR
01-25-2010, 04:19 PM
He's had my $650 for 3 months, and it isn't one of the pre sale piece of SHlT items he was selling.

I got every email and pm saved on a Word file. I'll make a thread about it in a few days with all the info.

DON'T BUY FROM RD, THE OWNER IS A SCAMMER !!!!!

rmzsuzuki89
01-25-2010, 04:19 PM
Good Jesus I'm glad I stayed away from RD. A couple years back I was gonna do a complete RD setup, subs, amps, components...everything...Glad I didn't.

Sorry to hear that, hopefully you can get everything worked out.....What forum did you get banned from?

bubbagumper6
01-25-2010, 04:22 PM
Class action lawsuit?


Go find him and kill him? (Sell his organs to recoup the money?)

twistedchild420
01-25-2010, 04:23 PM
That niqqa owe me 2 18's!

statonburrell
01-25-2010, 04:25 PM
yeah, i think i'm going to end up contacting the better business bureau and filing a lawsuit against him as well.... he keeps saying the products will be here this week... every week for the past 2 months.... ;

rmzsuzuki89
01-25-2010, 04:26 PM
Class action lawsuit?

Go find him and kill him? (Sell his organs to recoup the money?)

:laugh: ...The lawsuit may be all that will make this stop. There has been a good amount of this malarchy lately.


That niqqa owe me 2 18's!

:crap:

hornedfrog1985
01-25-2010, 04:29 PM
Post up new threads about your personal situation. The guy should have at least 100 scammer threads on this forum alone. That way any time someone googles something on this pos company a new thread comes up.

TurdFergueson2
01-25-2010, 04:30 PM
And there was the guy that made a 7 hr trip to resolve his issue. Ended up getting a blown D9 for his time and gas. Was offered a night at the ***** bar so I read.

hatedonmostly
01-25-2010, 04:32 PM
And there was the guy that made a 7 hr trip to resolve his issue. Ended up getting a blown D9 for his time and gas. Was offered a night at the ***** bar so I read.

link?

statonburrell
01-25-2010, 04:35 PM
well i'm only a little over 2 hours away from him... might have to make a trip down there....

hornedfrog1985
01-25-2010, 04:35 PM
Eh, I think it is kowboy or something like that. Hes the one that sold the D9 for like $250 shipped or something.

statonburrell
01-25-2010, 04:39 PM
horned, did steve fvck you too?

528hz
01-25-2010, 04:44 PM
Man...I will now and always say they have great products; but Steve...

You're a piece of **** man! Never will I rep your company again from what you have done to all these people.

I never wanted to post in any of these threads because it's like one of those things you lay in disbelief over because you were treated so well when working with RD and buying a ton of products.

I just whole-heartedly feel for all these people, I really do.

SAZCLASSD
01-25-2010, 04:54 PM
Figured I'd start posting these every so often. Its not just the amps. He is a THIEF. He is stealing peoples money, and should be fully prosecuted.

well atleast i know who to stay away from in the audio department.....

hornedfrog1985
01-25-2010, 04:58 PM
horned, did steve fvck you too?

Yeah, sent me an amp that was 10/10 condition. Never used in the box. It came to me in a generous 8/10 condition with bent rca jacks, and other issues. He blamed it on the shipping company, but it was obviously used. His story then changed to the amp was a demo model his sales reps used, and they might have hooked it up.

When I was going to purchase the amp, and asked for pics he said there was no need because the amp was like new, and that it looked like any other 3250.1 that was new.

statonburrell
01-25-2010, 05:03 PM
Yeah, sent me an amp that was 10/10 condition. Never used in the box. It came to me in a generous 8/10 condition with bent rca jacks, and other issues. He blamed it on the shipping company, but it was obviously used. His story then changed to the amp was a demo model his sales reps used, and they might have hooked it up.

When I was going to purchase the amp, and asked for pics he said there was no need because the amp was like new, and that it looked like any other 3250.1 that was new.



but atleast you have your product....

rmzsuzuki89
01-25-2010, 05:04 PM
well i'm only a little over 2 hours away from him... might have to make a trip down there....

If you do, let us know the outcome.

hornedfrog1985
01-25-2010, 05:06 PM
but atleast you have your product....

Ha, at least theres that. Thats their moto. "You should be glad if you receive anything at all."

statonburrell
01-25-2010, 05:13 PM
Ha, at least theres that. Thats their moto. "You should be glad if you receive anything at all."

what a hell of a slogan for a company lol

rmzsuzuki89
01-25-2010, 05:20 PM
Ha, at least theres that. Thats their moto. "You should be glad if you receive anything at all."

:laugh::verymad::crap::wow:

hornedfrog1985
01-26-2010, 03:17 PM
This was just posted on caco, as a member basically brought the fight right up RD audios ***. Maybe some of you can try the same?





I just received a tracking number for a 35 lb package that left Cerritos, California after sending Steve the following email:


Quote:
Steve,

I've been trying to work with you to remedy this situation, but my feeling is that you are not being entirely honest with me regarding my shipment. I have not yet received a tracking number, contact information for your shipping house, or my Alpha long excursion 12" woofer. This has been going on for long enough. I sent you a text message, last night, informing you that I had been advised to log a complaint with FBI's internet crime center for non-delivery and wire line fraud, but wished to avoid doing this since wire line fraud is by definition across state lines (this constitutes a federal offense).

You did not respond, and have not responded to my calls today, have not provided shipping information or even a number for me to call. I have filed a dispute through PayPal (#PP-868-968-228), for PayPal Transaction ID ($259): #4A089247BW681220J PayPal Transaction ID ($100): #3JR4125817072310A, a complaint with the BBB (Complaint ID#: 27129725), and a case with the FBI's internet crime center (Complaint ID: I1001261217208212).

I have not yet made a case for wire line fraud under Title 18, Section 1343, with the FBI, and still wish to remedy this situation as soon as possible.

I spoke to the State Attorney General's office for Georgia and am in the process of drafting a formal letter to the governor's office (consumer affairs). My written statement to the governor's office (consumer affairs) includes the following text as well as several exhibits:

1/26/2010

Complaint Number 253004

Hello,

My name is *Slim Shady*, the following is a statement of the events that transpired starting in August, 2009:

I found a car audio company by the name of Revolution Design Audio, located in Acworth, Georgia, through an internet forum advertisement on “caraudioclassifieds.org.” The advertisement was for a pre-sale deal on a car audio amplifier and listed the price as $425. I purchased the amplifier through PayPal from RD Audio (email [email protected], company website Top quality audio equipment: Revolution Design Audio (http://www.rdaudio.net/)).

I also purchased a subwoofer, for $259 via PayPal through Steve Miller of RD Audio on Aug. 21, 2009 (see page 2 of Doc 2, attached). On August 24, 2009, I emailed Steve to change my order from the “Alpha 12 inch” model to a more expensive “Elite 12 inch.” He informed me on Sep 10, 2009, that the Elite was an $100 more, for a total of $359 (3rd page of Doc 1). I paid him an additional $100 through PayPal on Sep 28 (see page 1 of Doc 2).

I asked Steve for an invoice on Sep 10, 2009 (page 3 of Doc 1), for an update on Dec 9 (page 2 of Doc 1), and for a written response, an update, and a written record of our correspondence, on Dec 30, 2009 (page 1 and 2 of Doc 1).

Doc 3 is a PayPal dispute I filed on 1/4/2010, after Steve failed to contact me. The claim was rejected because 45 days had expired, despite my continued correspondence attempts with Steve.

After filing the PayPal claim on the morning of 1/4/2010, Steve called me to tell me that he could immediately send out yet another subwoofer model (Alpha long excursion). I filed the complaint because Steve seemed to have disappeared with my money and had failed to keep me informed of the status of my order.

After he called me on 1/4/2010, I sent him an email back confirming that I was ok with changing my order to a different model so that it could ship immediately. I asked him for additional information regarding the subwoofer, but he never responded.

I called him just about every day on the week of Jan 11th, 2010, to try and get into contact with him to obtain shipping information. On Friday, Jan 15th, 2010, he sent me a message from his blackberry stating that the order had shipped and would arrive the week of the 18th. I requested a tracking number and he told me he had already left the office, but gave me his word that he would provide it on Monday, the 18th). He did not answer my calls on the week of the 18th, which were to request a tracking number.

On Friday, the 22nd, I spoke to Steve, and asked that he set me up with his “shipping house,” as he’d referred to it. He told me again that he’d left for the day but assured me that he’d get me a tracking number or a shipping contact on Monday, the 25th.

On Monday, the 25th, Steve neglected to answer his phone, turned his cell phone off, and eventually answered at ~3:00pm. He told me he was having car troubles and would talk to me shortly. At ~6:00pm, he told me he was driving back to his office and would get me information, which he promised he would deliver before 8:00pm. When I called him at 8:00pm, he did not answer. I sent him text messages informing him that I would have to contact the FBI’s internet crime complaint center if he couldn’t work with me to remedy the situation.

On Tuesday, the 26th, he once again turned his cell phone off and has not answered his business line. I have filed complaints with PayPal (dispute ID #PP-868-968-228), with the BBB (Complaint ID#: 27129725), the FBI’s IC3 (Complaint Id: I1001261217208212).

I am still willing to work with you if you can provide an immediate refund of my $359 or send me an Alpha long excursion or Elite 12" and provide a tracking number within the next two business days. Call me or respond to this email as soon as possible, and we can resolve the BBB complaint and the FBI IC3 complaint. I have not yet mailed/faxed a letter to the governors office and have not yet submitted a case for wire line fraud. I am prepared to do so on this Friday, Jan 29th, if I do not hear from you or if we can not resolve this dispute.

Regards,
*Wayne Brady*

He's also assured me that I will receive a new amp in the mail and postage to mail my old amp back as soon as they came in. I told him that I'll work with him to remedy the BBB complaint, IC3 case, and PayPal dispute when I receive the subwoofer, and will not file a case for federal wire line fraud or mail the letter I drafted once everything is good and right.



It looks like Steve's ultimately doing the right thing, even if the communication isn't great and it takes a long time. I just wanted to update you guys and to clear up the issues I've been having with RD Audio.

canyouhearmatt
01-26-2010, 03:37 PM
Wtf

statonburrell
01-26-2010, 03:38 PM
my items finally came in yesterday.

99grandprixGT
01-26-2010, 03:39 PM
good luck, seems like he always want to work something out but never does.

350zspl
01-26-2010, 04:38 PM
sad

really sad

KTFO
01-28-2010, 06:28 PM
my items finally came in yesterday.

at least someone got something

hazardous0388
01-28-2010, 06:33 PM
i think this is kind of humerous. somebody who actually is using their noggin according to the law to get the items they are owed.

misfit138
01-28-2010, 06:34 PM
Stop buying the ****...

hatedonmostly
01-28-2010, 06:38 PM
It looks like Steve's ultimately doing the right thing, even if the communication isn't great and it takes a long time. I just wanted to update you guys and to clear up the issues I've been having with RD Audio.

LMAO

After writing all that, dude still hasn't learned a ******* thing. :hilariou:

SQcrewcab
01-28-2010, 07:42 PM
When i placed in order last year, i had my attorny contact him by phone after i had not received my products of a $4000 order after 90 days. ****, i bet my stuff shipped 2x a week every week for 90 days. I dont know how many times i heard "let me check on it" or "i will get you a tracking # when i get back to the office"

Johnny Law.Lulz
01-28-2010, 07:47 PM
i think this is kind of humerous. somebody who actually is using their noggin according to the law to get the items they are owed.

this.

twistedchild420
01-28-2010, 07:48 PM
When i placed in order last year, i had my attorny contact him by phone after i had not received my products of a $4000 order after 90 days. ****, i bet my stuff shipped 2x a week every week for 90 days. I dont know how many times i heard "let me check on it" or "i will get you a tracking # when i get back to the office"

That sounds about right :crap:

99grandprixGT
01-28-2010, 07:52 PM
When i placed in order last year, i had my attorny contact him by phone after i had not received my products of a $4000 order after 90 days. ****, i bet my stuff shipped 2x a week every week for 90 days. I dont know how many times i heard "let me check on it" or "i will get you a tracking # when i get back to the office"

how long did it take after that.

deathpenalty18
01-28-2010, 07:57 PM
Steve miller you are an epic falure!

k_schutte
01-28-2010, 08:06 PM
RD... Really? That is very surprising! I hear they have FANTASTIC customer service!

waggsmcgee
01-28-2010, 09:15 PM
my items finally came in yesterday.

Well you are the lucky 1/200+ people. And


RD... Really? That is very surprising! I hear they have FANTASTIC customer service!

This is a joke right?

nutnbutcustm
01-29-2010, 12:18 AM
Its really a shame that someone can have such a good product and if handled right an absolute goldmine in this thing we love called car audio and just **** it all away. crying shame

Random1010
01-29-2010, 12:24 AM
Still waiting on my $50..

SQcrewcab
01-29-2010, 09:20 PM
how long did it take after that.

about 7-10 days and i got it all..

S.B.C.
02-02-2010, 11:11 PM
going and going and going

bigpimper112
02-05-2010, 11:56 AM
i think if RD would actually keep there words and send out there products they would actually waymake more money beucase they have sum nice built products. Thats why i rather buy from a trusted seller than Steve-O himself. Was gonna but changed my mind after hearing all the bad feedbacks. If i lived close to him i would just buy and just tell him if i could meet in his town or house so i know for sure im gettin what i want. I too wanted to run a Sub system and Amp system from RD but only the lucky people got what they wanted but most of us didnt as of the posting i have read

GetLikeMe
02-05-2010, 12:20 PM
I know RD moved from CACO, whats there new forum?

pieper88
02-05-2010, 12:26 PM
I know RD moved from CACO, whats there new forum?

carstereoforum.net

danyopjr
02-06-2010, 09:20 PM
Yeah, sent me an amp that was 10/10 condition. Never used in the box. It came to me in a generous 8/10 condition with bent rca jacks, and other issues. He blamed it on the shipping company, but it was obviously used. His story then changed to the amp was a demo model his sales reps used, and they might have hooked it up.

When I was going to purchase the amp, and asked for pics he said there was no need because the amp was like new, and that it looked like any other 3250.1 that was new.
thats just fawked up for sumone that makes alot of money but soon probably none. hopefully he change but that may take awhile or never i wonder why he does this kind of stuff

mbrooky
02-10-2010, 07:24 PM
that's why i'll never buy from RD....but somehow 98hoeonsixez is getting all his RD equipment no probs :p::sneaky:

Slo_Ride
02-10-2010, 07:26 PM
that's why i'll never buy from RD....but somehow 98hoeonsixez is getting all his RD equipment no probs :p::sneaky:

thats cause hes got a purty mouth. I kid :)

vitveet
02-15-2010, 11:03 PM
Well, here's my story (the short or "in a nutshell" version of it) :

"I will never buy, use or recommend their products either. Bought 3 bnib RD Audio classic 12's from Mike465 I believe his name is. Guess he was working there at the time. Claimed I had a full warranty on the subs. After a few weeks of normal used from my customer, one of the 12's decides to crap out. No burnt/broken tinsel leads, coils are fine, etc....just the sub stopped working. Contacted Mike about it and he says contact RD. I did that, explained the problem and they asked did I purchase it straight from them. I say YES b/c Mike was an employer at the time and the owner (supposedly) approved of the sale. Got one response from them and now they're ignoring my emails and refuse to warranty the product. I've chalked it up as a loss. Never again."

V.

kingkon68
02-22-2010, 09:37 PM
were the hell did you hear that they customer service **** more than lemons

christiana
04-16-2010, 09:08 AM
http://www.christianlouboutinforless.com/.......come here

Mannycontinues
05-26-2010, 08:06 AM
I just read this thread, and...besides the creepy post above mine, I think there is one word of explanation for this problem- TWEAKER

aho77
07-12-2010, 10:54 PM
well so that u all know rd is doing everything thay can to make things right with the people that got screwed i know one of the new oweners personly and he is a great guy so just contact them and things will work out

ewoevo
07-20-2010, 11:13 PM
I have to echo the above response. I got robbed out of 2 3-way crossovers for my comps (I know not a lot, but that's not the point). I contacted Joel, one of the new owners, and he's getting me a custom set of crossovers for my comps. And he'll actually take the time to talk to you for as long as you want. He doesn't try to brush you off, like someone else. I would give the new owners a chance to get the company running again. After a lengthy discussion with Joel yesterday and today, I am firmly convinced they are heading in the right direction and look forward to doing business with them in the future. And before you ask, no I am not getting anything for posting this nor do I work for them, their busines, nor RD Audio.

KyleBechtold
07-20-2010, 11:19 PM
After the whole tahoe mishap and the shop doing everything wrong and what not I can't believe anyone would order from RD.. I don't feel bad for anyone who ordered after that and seeing steves "Customer service"

Mr.Ronin_2U
07-21-2010, 05:56 AM
I just read this thread, and...besides the creepy post above mine, I think there is one word of explanation for this problem- TWEAKER

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/*negative*-feedback/468059-mannycountinues-scammer.html

cupid6969
07-30-2010, 04:24 AM
hey guys how u all doing just to let u know STEVE is no longer with RD audio he is out of there now the guy i believe running it now is joel

cupid6969
07-30-2010, 04:28 AM
yeah Joel is a good guy ive heard nothing but good about him :)