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icweiner
01-20-2010, 06:06 PM
This is my bro's build we are hoping to have the box built by tom. or friday. The box we are making will be 24 cubes tuned to 38Hz with 4 - 9in. sonotubes. For power he is running 2 older AQ3500Ds @ .5OHMs a piece. He has the stock alt and a kinetic 1800 up front and 2 HX400s in the back for now... Here are some pics


Lol... it was a lot or fun trying to put all 4 of these boxes in my galant
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/Landon/2010-01-20151738.jpg


Dats a lot of woofahs
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/Landon/2010-01-20154557.jpg


Look at that tiny KNIFE I mean gah dang thats a big woofah!
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/Landon/2010-01-20155139.jpg:veryhapp:


Dats a purdy picture
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/Landon/2010-01-20155540.jpg:respekt:



My purdy lady with a purdy speakah;)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/Landon/2010-01-20155616.jpg

302yota
01-20-2010, 06:15 PM
definitely take some pics of this build, i'm very interested to see how this turns out....will the box be walled off?...

oxsign
01-20-2010, 06:31 PM
Subcribed

icweiner
01-20-2010, 06:50 PM
Yea its subs up port back. Going to get more wire tomorrow. Box is all birch double baffled on bottom and triple on top with bracing all around. We hope it does around a 153 or so at the headrest at a low Hz :veryhapp:

Supergumby5000
01-20-2010, 10:17 PM
Yea its subs up port back. Going to get more wire tomorrow. Box is all birch double baffled on bottom and triple on top with bracing all around. We hope it does around a 153 or so at the headrest at a low Hz :veryhapp:

your aint gonna get even close to that.

The minute your amps turn on, your stock alternator is going to off itself before you turn the volume up ;)


no, but seriously, i'de definitely get an upgraded alternator before attempting to run 7krms, ESPECIALLY on a .5 ohm load.

icweiner
01-20-2010, 10:58 PM
lol it was already ran like this. dropped to 12 full tilt with 2 hdc3 12's. amps never got over cold.

icweiner
01-21-2010, 06:11 AM
more pics nigs. should be done and playing late tomorrow. will have an hd youtube video shortly after even though it will be turned down.:crap:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/Landon/2010-01-20214739.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/Landon/2010-01-21022109.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/Landon/2010-01-21040718.jpg

hatedonmostly
01-21-2010, 06:14 AM
in for vids of amp blowing

icweiner
01-21-2010, 06:19 AM
coming from the 132.6 lulz. amps will not blow dropping to not even 12 volts fegs.

statonburrell
01-21-2010, 06:20 AM
i'm pretty sure the car will just implode on intself with the stock alt doing a 153 on music( which I call BS beee teee dub).. keep a fire extinguisher ready.

icweiner
01-21-2010, 06:25 AM
k it might not do close to a 153 idk im just throing it out there. the setups i have done all have done decent numbers though.

statonburrell
01-21-2010, 06:27 AM
need an alt bro. seriously i would put money on you dropping into the 11-10 volt range with that much power on the stock alt. just keep an eye on everything and use your senses to tell you if something is going wrong (smell is very important)

statonburrell
01-21-2010, 06:29 AM
and also, future box tip, birch is only stronger than MDF if a single layer is used, when you start using MDF in multiple layers it's strength increases exponentially, Birch is more linear.

Qxxx4
01-21-2010, 06:29 AM
Absolutely no way a stock alt could push 500+ amps full tilt with that little battery reserve

No way in hell

icweiner
01-21-2010, 06:30 AM
bro i have already ran the amps like this just the way it is on two hdc3 12's same impedance. dropped to 11.98 full tilt on music tiny blinks of clipping on amp. had so much power the spiders tore on the old hdc3 coppers we had. peaked at 35 hz and was way louder than my maxima that did over a 145 at the headrest at the same hz. i will clamp for power to once they are broken in all the way. im not that ignorant.

icweiner
01-21-2010, 06:33 AM
who says im pulling 500 amps? after rise i have no idea how much power im getting. i didnt have a clamp before now i do so i will see how much power im really getting.

icweiner
01-21-2010, 06:36 AM
need an alt bro. seriously i would put money on you dropping into the 11-10 volt range with that much power on the stock alt. just keep an eye on everything and use your senses to tell you if something is going wrong (smell is very important)

using birch to help save weight. the bracing is where the main strength will come from.

statonburrell
01-21-2010, 06:38 AM
will seeing as how impedence rise is normally about 2.78-3.12x higher than your actual wired resistance you should still be seeing close to 7k.. which will be a lot...i mean a lot of stress on that stock alt. 2000 watts is really too much for a stock alt (135 amp)

statonburrell
01-21-2010, 06:39 AM
using birch to help save weight. the bracing is where the main strength will come from.

i see says the blind man

basshedz06
01-21-2010, 06:42 AM
i am with supergumby i think it was that said your alt will fault out.
but not entirely though, it is possiable to run a amp at .5 an it do okay on A BURP, i never heard anywone doing it for a daily beater.
although what most of guys don't know is that i have heard those amps can get down to 8 r 9 volts before blowing or faulting out, so its possiable i think, but it don't mean your amps will be doing 7kw maybe more like 5k lol if even that, it all depends on your box rise an how hot that box is geting inside
love the build man honestly but i would deff clamp those amps to see how much power your getting out of them when you doing your full tilt good luck man an stay safe.

oh an i would lookin into getting at least a 200amp alt but i think a 300 an maybe about 2-4 batts will be good too

icweiner
01-21-2010, 06:44 AM
i will have vids of voltage and clamped power.

skmfkr
01-21-2010, 08:26 AM
ive ran 3kw at .5 for like six months on a stock alt, and only 2 g31 in the back, but no more. i get my 270a amp today to help power my d9. there is no way i should try running 2 3500d amps on a stock alt

kowboy
01-21-2010, 08:33 AM
Gonna be loud... Pics of vehicle?

mlstrass
01-21-2010, 11:04 AM
and also, future box tip, birch is only stronger than MDF if a single layer is used, when you start using MDF in multiple layers it's strength increases exponentially, Birch is more linear.

I'm sure he didn't want the extra weight of multiple layered MDF. BB layered is very strong, so he'll be fine.

Amps will soft protect at 10.6v, so if they start cutting in/out then back off the volume a little and start saving for a nice DC alt...

tylork92
01-21-2010, 01:01 PM
yea i would def be lookin into an alt....your gonna strain the chit outta that stock one.

Supergumby5000
01-21-2010, 01:19 PM
lol it was already ran like this. dropped to 12 full tilt with 2 hdc3 12's. amps never got over cold.

was that "12" at the dash, batteries, or amplifiers?

and if the amps never got more than cold, you probably werent seeing half their power with that electrical system.

Bite the bullet and get the HO alternator now. In terms of how much $$$ is going into this, an alternator wont be much more, and it will be a DRASTIC improvement

icweiner
01-21-2010, 06:14 PM
was that "12" at the dash, batteries, or amplifiers?

and if the amps never got more than cold, you probably werent seeing half their power with that electrical system.

Bite the bullet and get the HO alternator now. In terms of how much $$$ is going into this, an alternator wont be much more, and it will be a DRASTIC improvement


it was at the amplifiers. so what if i wasnt see half the power ,its still loud as balls. alternator is like 550, plus to get it installed, and now im flat broke because of buying teh subs and all of the wood. and i just started back to college, so no money.

Supergumby5000
01-21-2010, 08:19 PM
it was at the amplifiers. so what if i wasnt see half the power ,its still loud as balls. alternator is like 550, plus to get it installed, and now im flat broke because of buying teh subs and all of the wood. and i just started back to college, so no money.

Okay, dont take my advice, i was just trying to give some help.

Look at it this way, you spent a **** ton of money on equipment you arent using to its potential. I bet you would be just as loud with 1 amp + an alternator rather than 2 amps and a stock alternator, AND you wouldnt have spent any more money, AND you wouldnt be risking cooking your entire investment.

Nice build regardless though.

ltr450racer690
01-21-2010, 08:25 PM
very well put

icweiner
01-21-2010, 09:03 PM
woo hoo, we're almost done, all we have left to do is to put the double baffle on the bottom of the box, put the box in the car, wire up the subs and boom boom boom!

Annnarbor84
01-21-2010, 09:10 PM
You dont have to run a high output alt, just a little:fyi: to everybody saying you do. I would as soon as you can though....

icweiner
01-21-2010, 09:22 PM
I plan on getting one in the future, im going to see tonight what my voltage is dropping to when i get it finished.

icweiner
01-21-2010, 09:29 PM
Gonna be loud... Pics of vehicle?

here is a pic, it has 20% on the front side windows now though

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/icweinerpb/DSCN0925.jpg

kowboy
01-21-2010, 09:43 PM
^^^nice... Love the xl's. Seems like it's harder to make them loud than the short body's... Although u have more room for equipment so I guess it evens out!

icweiner
01-21-2010, 11:18 PM
i dont think its hard at all to get them loud, i had 2 hdc3 12's in a 5 ft box, with 2 aq 3500d's, and it was hella loud, much louder than my nissan maxima was.

nutnbutcustm
01-21-2010, 11:46 PM
I have a 03' Yukon SLT with an M4 and 4-DD1508's that does a 150.1 @ 42hz :) not bad for some lil' ole' 8's ;)

Nice build bro it should be hella loud and im not gonna bust your balls about the alternator situation but keep in mind there is truth in numbers. post a vid when you can,i wanna see it!!!
and i have always loved DD carbon subs but these are right there with them,very nice.

icweiner
01-21-2010, 11:57 PM
I have a 03' Yukon SLT with an M4 and 4-DD1508's that does a 150.1 @ 42hz :) not bad for some lil' ole' 8's ;)

Nice build bro it should be hella loud and im not gonna bust your balls about the alternator situation but keep in mind there is truth in numbers. post a vid when you can,i wanna see it!!!
and i have always loved DD carbon subs but these are right there with them,very nice.

Thanks for the comment, yeah i cant wait to hear it, im going to listen to it tonight lol, im wating on my brother to get home to help me wire up the subs and get the box in the car, i really want to see what the voltage is dropping to and to see how loud it is :), and i know i should proably have an alternator, i will eventually get one, probably the dc 270 amp for my car, 180 amps at idle:)

DDbump
01-22-2010, 01:54 AM
looks good. kinda like my build

TrUnK WaNgIn'
01-22-2010, 02:50 AM
looks good. kinda like my build

lol, yeah except you got way more mids, 2 more batts, and an upgraded alt, other than that the same lol.

TrUnK WaNgIn'
01-22-2010, 06:52 PM
K guys we finally got it playing, and it is retarded loud, and i know its only going to get louder when the subs break in, just like my pair of 12's did. Thanks guys for checking out the build, i hope to have some numbers up soon, when meca comp rolls around.

TrUnK WaNgIn'
01-22-2010, 09:06 PM
Oh and guys, playing it LOUD my voltage only drops to 12.6:)

kowboy
01-23-2010, 01:21 AM
i dont think its hard at all to get them loud, i had 2 hdc3 12's in a 5 ft box, with 2 aq 3500d's, and it was hella loud, much louder than my nissan maxima was.

well yeah...7000+ watts is gonna be loud in anything!

Villeza1
01-23-2010, 01:24 AM
****, seems like everyone is stepping up their game this year. GLWB

TrUnK WaNgIn'
01-23-2010, 01:49 AM
****, seems like everyone is stepping up their game this year. GLWB

Thanks, i hope to be adding two more HX400FRs and more 0 gauge wire to and an alt, then it should be completed:cool:

TrUnK WaNgIn'
01-23-2010, 01:52 AM
in for vids of amp blowing

Sorry, there will be none.

KHARPS
01-23-2010, 02:42 AM
Oh and guys, playing it LOUD my voltage only drops to 12.6:)

Then I'm definitely doing something wrong. I'm dropping below 12v with a 200a alt, s1200 and d3100, on only 3000w.

Ronmeister
01-23-2010, 07:46 AM
lol it was already ran like this. dropped to 12 full tilt with 2 hdc3 12's. amps never got over cold.

This may be the case, however you were probably doing less than half of the power you think you were continuously.
Clamp it before and after the alt and more batts and see what you get.

icweiner
01-23-2010, 10:20 AM
This may be the case, however you were probably doing less than half of the power you think you were continuously.
Clamp it before and after the alt and more batts and see what you get.

lol then its still alot of power. enough to bottom out hdc3's on any song :crap: but right now its very loud and its just going to keep getting louder and louder :veryhapp: ill clamp it today and get some HD flex vids too

themgators511
01-23-2010, 10:35 AM
Looks good waitin for them vids..

icweiner
01-23-2010, 02:41 PM
clamped it and well..... we are getting around 5150 watts at 2.45 ohms on a 35 hz burp just goofing around. not that bad but when we get two more batts and an alt i expect a little more. i have a crappy i mean very crappy inside flex vid too. ill make an out side flex one tomorrow.

icweiner
01-23-2010, 03:21 PM
here is the first vid. ill have the one where we clamped it up later. right now its not in hd tho so ull have to wait :crap:
FLEX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDwO83FcHQg)

TrUnK WaNgIn'
01-23-2010, 06:11 PM
Uh, i think i broke my sunroof, it does not want to open anymore:(

icweiner
02-07-2010, 06:28 PM
new vid... you know before the amps and everything explode and catch on fire...lulz :laugh:


VIDEO OF NEW FLEX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30zzhqgsHAs)

Andrizzle
02-07-2010, 06:36 PM
Nice. MOAR

icweiner
02-07-2010, 06:44 PM
got one of just sub flex bout to upload. it was to windy to float stuff in the window.

Annnarbor84
02-07-2010, 10:56 PM
Looks good!!

PioneerSPL1990
02-07-2010, 11:13 PM
wtf does no one understand how a charging system works? i ran my sound stream XXX10000k with the stock battery, 3 kinetik 1800's, and a stock 102amp alt for months at .75, yes after a long time of bumping it around (2 hours) i would have to turn it down for about a half hour for it to come back up to 14.5 lowest it ever dropped was 12.7. yes and i do know the amp only does around 5000Wrms.

icweiner
02-08-2010, 09:16 AM
vid of sub excursion. they still got WAY more in them :)


EXCURSION VID (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9tG8cNYikA)


yes i know i sound retarded. we were tryin to get outta there fast plus it was cold as balls lmao :laugh:

Snow90
02-08-2010, 01:16 PM
F*ck you.

Snow90
02-08-2010, 01:17 PM
F*ck you.

RWAUDIO
02-08-2010, 01:33 PM
Dam got my favorites subs and amps
Are your going to be adding 2 more Aq 3500's
that would be beastly already is but it would be insane.
I havent really gone through every page so if you've
already answered this don't bother but
are you planing on getting more batteries and a highoutput
alt????


Best Regards,
Jeremy R. Sevigny

mbrooky
02-08-2010, 01:42 PM
Dam got my favorites subs and amps
Are your going to be adding 2 more Aq 3500's
that would be beastly already is but it would be insane.
I havent really gone through every page so if you've
already answered this don't bother but
are you planing on getting more batteries and a highoutput
alt????


Best Regards,
Jeremy R. Sevigny


yup just one page back:


clamped it and well..... we are getting around 5150 watts at 2.45 ohms on a 35 hz burp just goofing around. not that bad but when we get two more batts and an alt i expect a little more. i have a crappy i mean very crappy inside flex vid too. ill make an out side flex one tomorrow.

RWAUDIO
02-08-2010, 01:46 PM
Thanks for givin me the info :D
this thing pounds but itll pound
happy with the upgraded electrical
forsure. You even put it in my fav
suv danali shits a beast.

TrUnK WaNgIn'
02-08-2010, 04:42 PM
F*ck you.

Whats your problem buddy?

shakes
02-09-2010, 04:31 AM
whats your problem buddy?

aids.

LDW3RD
02-10-2010, 07:06 PM
banana balls!! Very nice. :)

basshedz06
02-10-2010, 08:46 PM
**** thing is nasty, i am wondering though are you using the aq bassknob an if so are you haveing clipping issues out of your amp cause i just got a 1200 an i am running it at 2 ohms an its clipping thinkin its my hu

TrUnK WaNgIn'
02-10-2010, 08:55 PM
**** thing is nasty, i am wondering though are you using the aq bassknob an if so are you haveing clipping issues out of your amp cause i just got a 1200 an i am running it at 2 ohms an its clipping thinkin its my hu

yeah, i clip on some songs, just have to turn it down a little though

icweiner
02-10-2010, 09:06 PM
**** thing is nasty, i am wondering though are you using the aq bassknob an if so are you haveing clipping issues out of your amp cause i just got a 1200 an i am running it at 2 ohms an its clipping thinkin its my hu

its not the hu. u just want to much power outta the amp... wire it down alot and itll be loud w/o clipping.

basshedz06
02-11-2010, 06:48 AM
its not the hu. u just want to much power outta the amp... wire it down alot and itll be loud w/o clipping.

well i have it on a sdc 2.5 12 its only getting about 500 or so watts yea i don't know why i didn't think of that first. well i was wanting to put my alpha back in my car anyway so i can get max power out of it.

icweiner
02-27-2010, 08:13 PM
got this setup metered. did a 151.6 with the electrical like it is and the box still un braced :)

wone
02-28-2010, 02:24 AM
good score and nice flexing you got there!

icweiner
02-28-2010, 01:58 PM
here are some vids just got them uploaded.
METERING VID (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdNM9GG3RO8)

DASH FLEX :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNyYfeSNkGM)

OLDER VID (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30zzhqgsHAs&feature=channel)

VIDS from bunker from SMD forums who was there.

DEMO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRWxEzIiyQw)

FLEX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh_0Lox3ab8&feature=channel)

80INCHES
02-28-2010, 02:01 PM
uh where was that meter at?

80

icweiner
02-28-2010, 02:10 PM
headrest brah. bet u were thinking kick :p