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budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 10:11 PM
Well currently i am running two Dayton B652 as rear surround, 2 Bose 201Vs up front, Dayton CCS-33B as a center channel, 12" Image Dynamics IDmax (currently) as the sub in like 1.55cuft sealed, being powered by a sony STR-K700. The ID Cx62 is not running.

Dayton B652 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-652)
Dayton CCS-33B (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-674)
Bose 201v (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_018201VB/Bose-201-system-Black.html?search=bose+201+series+v&ssi=0)
IDmax 12" (http://www.woofersetc.com/p2031/IDMAX12D2--Image-Dynamics-12"-1800-Watt-Subwoofer.htm)
Sony STR-K700 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270510287779)
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2499/3741/31246870048_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2499/3741/31246870049_large.jpg

I WANT to get 3-4 8" or possibly smaller subwoofers that will fit under my futon. I would like to keep them in a super low tuned or sealed box. If you cant tell from the equipment, i am ballin on a budget. Any recomendations? I might go with something from Dayton since i am representing them pretty hard :) Probably looking to spend like $50 or so a piece. I dont think i am working with much power, but the idmax does great with the power and my older 15" IDQ did also.

If all else fails ill do some sort of bandpass with the 15"IDQ, it just takes up SOOO much space.

I am thinking like 3-4" of mounting depth with wood for the enclosure taken into account. Thanks guys, sorry for such a lengthy post, i just wanted to show off what i had going on. The front is a little high and the rear seems to be a little close, but it sounds great on both music and movies!

budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 10:16 PM
Bump for good suggestions. Im new to HT.

RAM_Designs
01-07-2010, 10:18 PM
So what's the max sub depth you can have? If you can fit a 4.25" deep sub, I'd recommend the Dayton DVC if you're on a budget.

mobeious
01-07-2010, 10:18 PM
i dont think ur goin to have the low end extension with 8's u need for HT

budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 10:31 PM
i dont think ur goin to have the low end extension with 8's u need for HT

From everything i have read, i heard that it doesnt matter the size of the sub for "deep" or "low" bass.....

Like the 8"s are quicker and have more SQ, 18"s get lower but dont have SQ BS was actually BS.......... am i not thinking on the same level?

budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 10:33 PM
So what's the max sub depth you can have? If you can fit a 4.25" deep sub, I'd recommend the Dayton DVC if you're on a budget.

I have 7" from the floor to the bottom of the futon. So i guess i could squeeze like 4"-5" mounting depth as long as there isnt a pole vent as long as i use 1/2" wood.

plugitin
01-07-2010, 10:38 PM
From everything i have read, i heard that it doesnt matter the size of the sub for "deep" or "low" bass.....

Like the 8"s are quicker and have more SQ, 18"s get lower but dont have SQ BS was actually BS.......... am i not thinking on the same level?

this is correct...

but in ht, bigger is always better...

i would do 1 15 or so over a bunch of 8s...

mobeious
01-07-2010, 10:40 PM
From everything i have read, i heard that it doesnt matter the size of the sub for "deep" or "low" bass.....

Like the 8"s are quicker and have more SQ, 18"s get lower but dont have SQ BS was actually BS.......... am i not thinking on the same level?



hmmm ok ... go over to AVSforum.com or hometheatershack.com... and see how many people are running 8's

budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 10:41 PM
this is correct...

but in ht, bigger is always better...

i would do 1 15 or so over a bunch of 8s...

Oh ok i got you. Sooooo, i really like my 15" IDQ, but i think its still too deep from what i can remember. Its at home and im in my dorm about 3 or so hrs away. I think ill work on a nice bandpass over the summer. Ill have to do a lot of reading, but it should be a cool project. Hopefully i wont be stuck in a dorm again next semester. I was just going 8"s because i figured they would fit better.

Maybe ill just make a futon out of my bandpass box for the sub :)

budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 10:42 PM
hmmm ok ... go over to AVSforum.com or hometheatershack.com... and see how many people are running 8's

yeah, sorry, i was thinking car audio..... I said i was new to HT so i appologize for my lack of knowledge.

plugitin
01-07-2010, 10:43 PM
Oh ok i got you. Sooooo, i really like my 15" IDQ, but i think its still too deep from what i can remember. Its at home and im in my dorm about 3 or so hrs away. I think ill work on a nice bandpass over the summer. Ill have to do a lot of reading, but it should be a cool project. Hopefully i wont be stuck in a dorm again next semester. I was just going 8"s because i figured they would fit better.

Maybe ill just make a futon out of my bandpass box for the sub :)

ive never attempted doing a bp for ht, ive always stuck with biig boxes tuned low...

DBfan187
01-07-2010, 10:48 PM
holy ghetto setup batman

plugitin
01-07-2010, 10:49 PM
he's pimpin though :confused:

DBfan187
01-07-2010, 10:50 PM
oh no doubt

modskwod
01-07-2010, 10:51 PM
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-854
These

budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 10:53 PM
holy ghetto setup batman

:) why do you say that? Because its running off of a cheap receiver or what? The speakers have sounded pretty darn good compared to other HT i have heard, but again, most of the ones i have heard are all in one setups like what mine started out as.

Only thing i would like to do is run them off of actual amplifiers or maybe just get a nice receiver...... i dont know, i thought it was pretty **** good. I would love some helpful information!

tommyk90
01-07-2010, 10:54 PM
You don't need a "big" sub to get low end extension.

I have my old RE seXXX 10" in 4 cubes tuned to 20 hz and it LITERALLY is knocking nails out of the drywall. This is with only 300 watts.

The fighting scenes in transformers had my entire room shaking.

budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 10:56 PM
You don't need a "big" sub to get low end extension.

I have my old RE seXXX 10" in 4 cubes tuned to 20 hz and it LITERALLY is knocking nails out of the drywall. This is with only 300 watts.

Yeah, thats what i thought. I have been in the car audio scene for a little while, but totally new to actually designing a HT setup.

97gp
01-07-2010, 11:03 PM
Quick question I am going to be using a 12" FIQ in my room for music not HT and it will be on 500 watts from a dayton plate amp. Is tuning the same as it would be in a car or would you want to tune higher. I was thinking 2.2ft tuned to 38, and yes I did just jack your thread :fyi:

KyleBechtold
01-07-2010, 11:05 PM
Quick question I am going to be using a 12" FIQ in my room for music not HT and it will be on 500 watts from a dayton plate amp. Is tuning the same as it would be in a car or would you want to tune higher. I was thinking 2.2ft tuned to 38, and yes I did just jack your thread :fyi:

home audio tunes LOW for explosions.. Idk for JUST music

lilmaniac2
01-07-2010, 11:05 PM
Friend of mine had 18 8" subs that would play **** near flat down to 20 hz over 150 db.....

tommyk90
01-07-2010, 11:06 PM
Friend of mine had 18 8" subs that would play **** near flat down to 20 hz over 150 db.....

Loyd's old grand prix is NOTHING like a home theater setup....n00b. :)

lilmaniac2
01-07-2010, 11:08 PM
Loyd's old grand prix is NOTHING like a home theater setup....n00b. :)

Just reinforcing your point that size of the sub =/= how low it can play

tommyk90
01-07-2010, 11:09 PM
Just reinforcing your point that size of the sub =/= how low it can play

indeed.

It's more about the enclosure and environment.

97gp
01-07-2010, 11:09 PM
home audio tunes LOW for explosions.. Idk for JUST music

Wow, that almost helped me.

tommyk90
01-07-2010, 11:10 PM
Wow, that almost helped me.

Since you are tuning more for music, then yeah you'd probably want to keep it in the 30-35 hz range.

However I would maybe consider bumping the enclosure size up a little bit since you are only putting 500 watts to it.

Any idea on the amount of port area you wanted to use?

97gp
01-07-2010, 11:13 PM
Since you are tuning more for music, then yeah you'd probably want to keep it in the 30-35 hz range.

However I would maybe consider bumping the enclosure size up a little bit since you are only putting 500 watts to it.

Any idea on the amount of port area you wanted to use?

Trying to keep the enclosure somewhat small so I am going use an aeroport, what do you think 3",4",5"??????????

KHARPS
01-07-2010, 11:16 PM
You don't need a "big" sub to get low end extension.

I have my old RE seXXX 10" in 4 cubes tuned to 20 hz and it LITERALLY is knocking nails out of the drywall. This is with only 300 watts.

The fighting scenes in transformers had my entire room shaking.

I've heard it and he's not kidding...it gets lowwww.

OP- you're in college, now start acting like it and jack that futon up on some bricks to give you more depth under it :)

tommyk90
01-07-2010, 11:17 PM
Trying to keep the enclosure somewhat small so I am going use an aeroport, what do you think 3",4",5"??????????

Single 4" would work. That's what I got for my setup. :)


I've heard it and he's not kidding...it gets lowwww.

OP- you're in college, now start acting like it and jack that futon up on some bricks to give you more depth under it :)

It sounds even better now that I moved everything around. :)

Movies sound CRAZY.

budahbuddy803
01-07-2010, 11:52 PM
I've heard it and he's not kidding...it gets lowwww.

OP- you're in college, now start acting like it and jack that futon up on some bricks to give you more depth under it :)

haha i like the idea. See i was trying to keep it classy with nicely reviewed bang for the buck speakers, besides the bose that were gifts for christmas a while back...... I might just have to have a lifted futon for the idmax, but possibly for just a low tuned box for the 15"..... i did like it, its just the box was too big to carry up here. Anything i do will be for next year when i may be in an apartment.... if thats the case im def. doing a huge bandpass or something cool.

ngsm13
01-08-2010, 12:06 AM
Wow, lots of junk up ITT...

nG

budahbuddy803
01-08-2010, 12:10 AM
Wow, lots of junk up ITT...

nG

what does that mean?

solidcrowd
01-08-2010, 12:42 AM
How's that center channel sound? Thinking about ordering one. Also those $25 rear daytons worth it?

Captain_Ahab
01-08-2010, 02:22 AM
Epic setup, mane.

budahbuddy803
01-08-2010, 04:20 PM
How's that center channel sound? Thinking about ordering one. Also those $25 rear daytons worth it?

The center channel and rears are both great IMO. Rears are super for $25! The reviews on partexpress were pretty accurate...... I really dont understand why you guys call this epic and everything.... Because im running the idmax off of a HT receiver or because i dont have matching equipment or is it because i have "cheap" speakers???? I really want to know because it all sounds pretty **** good to me. I would love to hear something that isnt "epic" or whatever you guys are calling it!

budahbuddy803
01-08-2010, 04:27 PM
Yeah, i see "ghetto" setup and "a bunch of junk" or whatever.... I would love to see some other dorm room HT setups!!!

I have it all hooked up to my computer for music, TV for TV or course, and the xbox for games and movies..... haha I love it, but after these compliments i feel like the noobs that enjoy their walmart crap.....

I know it was on a budget, but all the speakers including the subwoofer sound great! Please, helpful info or reason for the comments!

budahbuddy803
01-08-2010, 04:27 PM
Yeah, i see "ghetto" setup and "a bunch of junk" or whatever.... I would love to see some other dorm room HT setups!!!

I have it all hooked up to my computer for music, TV for TV or course, and the xbox for games and movies..... haha I love it, but after these compliments i feel like the noobs that enjoy their walmart crap.....

I know it was on a budget, but all the speakers including the subwoofer sound great! Please, helpful info or reason for the comments!

budahbuddy803
01-09-2010, 12:40 PM
bump for helpful info