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sthib
01-03-2010, 12:44 AM
ok i am doing a blow through but dont want to buy a bed cover are anything like that what could i coat my box with to make it water proof?

ideas i have:
bondo
fiberglass would these work?

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 12:49 AM
milkshake its a 50/50 mix of bondo and fg resin with appropriate ampounts of each hardener. then use truckbed liner over that.

NhustlaR
01-03-2010, 12:50 AM
buy roll on beadliner. it would be just as cheap and easier and look a lot better than the two options you are throwing out there. cheap stuff is @ wally world for about 30 a gallon

sthib
01-03-2010, 12:54 AM
The milkshake thing sound like the ticket i have done bedliner box for a boat and it leaked at the screw holes so i ruled just that out.

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 12:55 AM
buy roll on beadliner. it would be just as cheap and easier and look a lot better than the two options you are throwing out there. cheap stuff is @ wally world for about 30 a gallon

it will chip and flake if it gets hit and leave the mdf exposed i have done it i know the milkshake mix absorbs into the mdf and prevents that from happening

and the duplicolor at wally world is exactly what i use unless the customer wants the real stuff which does not require the milkshake mix ;)

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 12:56 AM
The milkshake thing sound like the ticket i have done bedliner box for a boat and it leaked at the screw holes so i ruled just that out.

thats why i recommended it too many people think bed liner is the end all be all and it is not unless done right then it kix *** lolz

sthib
01-03-2010, 01:06 AM
it will chip and flake if it gets hit and leave the mdf exposed i have done it i know the milkshake mix absorbs into the mdf and prevents that from happening

and the duplicolor at wally world is exactly what i use unless the customer wants the real stuff which does not require the milkshake mix ;)

what you do you use that is duplicolor the resin?

on1wheel01
01-03-2010, 01:06 AM
+1 on milk shake then bed liner. And the stuff at wally world is more like 45 (I should kno I go through it like water) thats what most ppl that I build boxes want it covered in. It is water proof to a extent like said any nick or damage then it's gonna leak. To be 100% sure do what sic said. Also If it we're me I would just get a snap on bed liner if anything. I would wanna hide it all and give the truck a clean look.

on1wheel01
01-03-2010, 01:07 AM
The dupli color is the brand of bed liner coating. And they dont carry dupli color anymore. They switched to rustloeum(or how ever it's spelled) well at least the ones here around charlotte have switched. I like it better it is less chunky and just looks better. Although the dupli color covered better and I used less I still prefer rust o
here is the new stuff
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j160/grnreaper01/Box%20builds/boxbuilds2.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j160/grnreaper01/Box%20builds/boxbuilds1.jpg

Here is the old stuff be kind this was my 1st box done with a skil saw free handed lol
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j160/grnreaper01/Box%20builds/rhinobox2.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j160/grnreaper01/Box%20builds/kickerbox-1.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j160/grnreaper01/Box%20builds/kickerbox5.jpg

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:09 AM
Where are you located at?

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 01:09 AM
what you do you use that is duplicolor the resin?

duplicolor is the brand of the bed liner its closer to 40-50 a gallon not 30 but you can thin it 50/50 with acetone for an extra 10$ and double it up ;)

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:11 AM
If your in Louisiana ...I have a spray in bed liner machine at my warehouse ...and can fix you up...I can't tell by your location

on1wheel01
01-03-2010, 01:12 AM
hes prob a cali boi

sthib
01-03-2010, 01:12 AM
i live in a very small town in louisiana not very many ppl know what a blow through is and i dont like the look of a bed cover.

sthib
01-03-2010, 01:14 AM
Im near opelousas and eunice in church point

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:14 AM
Which town in Louisiana...? besides being weatherproof my spray in bedliner can be sprayed in custom colors as well....

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:15 AM
How far are you from Alexandria? I'm about an hour north

sthib
01-03-2010, 01:20 AM
How far are you from Alexandria? I'm about an hour north lol im about an hour and half south

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:43 AM
Thats not to bad...the stuff I have dries in seconds...the longest part is prepping everything

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 01:46 AM
liner extreme crx?
thats what i use unless the customer wants cheap lolz

sthib
01-03-2010, 01:49 AM
how much would you charge for my whole bed?

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 01:49 AM
300$

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:49 AM
Mines a Vortex system...there was an article in Truckin' Magazine on it a couple of months ago...its 5 times stronger than Rhino or Line X

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 01:50 AM
same stuff as liner extreme then

urea based right?

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:52 AM
how much would you charge for my whole bed?

What size truck?

sthib
01-03-2010, 01:53 AM
.
well i think im just going to do the milkshake stuff you have any pics of you doing a box with it?

sthib
01-03-2010, 01:54 AM
short bed chevy silverado.

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:55 AM
same stuff as liner extreme then

urea based right?

yeah...

Jaredturp
01-03-2010, 01:56 AM
buy roll on beadliner. it would be just as cheap and easier and look a lot better than the two options you are throwing out there. cheap stuff is @ wally world for about 30 a gallon

Website?

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 01:56 AM
really good **** way way way better than rhino or the other junk

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 01:56 AM
With prep and materials its around $400 I can also lay a custom chevy emblem in the bed or on the sub box as well

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 01:58 AM
sorry dude no pics but if you google bondo milkshake it gives you this :
http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/showthread.php?t=160966

read that thread

sthib
01-03-2010, 01:59 AM
maybe in the future failed to mention in 17 on a gas station work budget lol.

but would like to see pics of the milkshake stuf

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 01:59 AM
buy roll on beadliner. it would be just as cheap and easier and look a lot better than the two options you are throwing out there. cheap stuff is @ wally world for about 30 a gallon

obviously a noob lolz

Jaredturp
01-03-2010, 02:06 AM
What would it cost to cover a 5 cube box with a good quality bed-liner?

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 02:06 AM
buy roll on beadliner. it would be just as cheap and easier and look a lot better than the two options you are throwing out there. cheap stuff is @ wally world for about 30 a gallon

when people come in with that **** in their bed I charge them an extra $50 just to clean it out and re prep it right...most people waste $100 plus on that crap and it doesn't coat worth anything...I use about 5 gallons of material per bed...and it cost more than $30 a gallon for the good stuff....

sthib
01-03-2010, 02:09 AM
when people come in with that **** in their bed I charge them an extra $50 just to clean it out and re prep it right...most people waste $100 plus on that crap and it doesn't coat worth anything...I use about 5 gallons of material per bed...and it cost more than $30 a gallon for the good stuff....

well i have a sprayer could you give me a link are something to the good stuff?

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 02:10 AM
i only use 2 but the liner extreme brand goes on very heavy so i dont need quite as much
basically i charge 150 per coat most people opt for 2 - 1/8" coats

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 02:10 AM
What would it cost to cover a 5 cube box with a good quality bed-liner?

the whole box top bottom and sides....would be about $75 un prepped and about $125 prepped...prepped would be sanded and filling most all the seams and nail holes...before sprayed...even spraying thick...you can't cover them up...even though it would still be weather proofed and well sealed either way...it looks better prepped

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 02:13 AM
nice price i charge 25 per cube prepped lolz

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 02:13 AM
well i have a sprayer could you give me a link are something to the good stuff?

They use special sprayers and machines...that pump the bedliner and sealer...it mixes in a special disposible clear nozel...The machine I use cost $15,000

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 02:14 AM
nice price i charge 25 per cube prepped lolz

you know whats involved on prepping then...lol

Jaredturp
01-03-2010, 02:15 AM
the whole box top bottom and sides....would be about $75 un prepped and about $125 prepped...prepped would be sanded and filling most all the seams and nail holes...before sprayed...even spraying thick...you can't cover them up...even though it would still be weather proofed and well sealed either way...it looks better prepped

No nail or screw holes!!!!! Just lotsss of glue...

sthib
01-03-2010, 02:16 AM
They use special sprayers and machines...that pump the bedliner and sealer...it mixes in a special disposible clear nozel...The machine I use cost $15,000

is there anything i can put in my gun the will last and be waterproof?

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 02:18 AM
yeah a shitload of work sealing seams and holes lolz thats why when i build the box i charge 17.50 i dont usually have big seams or holes since i use a stepped counter sink that fits screw heads almost dead on and blaze glaze is usally all i need for it ;)

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 02:19 AM
No nail or screw holes!!!!! Just lotsss of glue...

It may not need prepping then...basically prepping is sanding making sure its smooth and filling any seems and holes with wood filler...if everything is ready and all it needs is sprayed...they'd run about $75 to do the box...

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 02:22 AM
is there anything i can put in my gun the will last and be waterproof?

nothing that can be done right....any good bedliner type spray...would clog a standard paint gun...like I said earlier it dries in a matter of seconds

sthib
01-03-2010, 02:35 AM
nothing that can be done right....any good bedliner type spray...would clog a standard paint gun...like I said earlier it dries in a matter of seconds

well i was thinking if i put the milkshake stuff then just paint and seal it it shouls still be waterproof?

another idea i had was building a metal are wood box (like a tool box) with a door and everything but a sealed door and putting the actual sub box in that and still sealing the sub box.

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 02:41 AM
still use some sort of liner coating

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 02:42 AM
well i was thinking if i put the milkshake stuff then just paint and seal it it shouls still be waterproof?

another idea i had was building a metal are wood box (like a tool box) with a door and everything but a sealed door and putting the actual sub box in that and still sealing the sub box.

The easiest way...would be build your box...install everything...I can give you instructions on pre prepping your bed...make a trip to my warehouse...and I can put the right stuff in your bed and have you in and out in about 2 hours....if you pre prep everything...that will save you about $100 so you could get it done right for $300 so no experimenting...wasting money...redoing things...tearing up tools...and get a job done right :)

sthib
01-03-2010, 02:47 AM
maybe so im very experienced with metal working and also have a friend that was runner up in a state welding competion. So probably going to do that but if not what all has to be done for the spray coat?

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 02:51 AM
your box would need all seams...nail holes ...and screw holes filled with wood filler....then it would need to be sanded pretty smooth...then all the metal in your bed and on your tailgate would need to be sanded and scuffed with 80 grit...but not to the metal...thats about it....at least 80 % of the bed would need scuffed...

sthib
01-03-2010, 03:01 AM
ok im going to run some numbers on nhow much the metal would cost and if its close to the price of your coationg i would just go with the coating.

Louisiana_CRX
01-03-2010, 03:05 AM
just let me know you can pm me ...

bassman3
01-03-2010, 04:07 AM
hmmm. duplicolor??? I havent used that before, i use Herculiner on my enclosures... anyone know how they compare to each other??? (people who have used both or have seen both in person)

SicAudio
01-03-2010, 04:11 AM
used both the dif is all price they are the same exact compound the herculiner has added ground rubber thats it

bassman3
01-03-2010, 04:45 AM
used both the dif is all price they are the same exact compound the herculiner has added ground rubber thats it

Thanks for the info Sic. What's your opinion on either one? you have a pref on looks for either one?

bassman3
01-03-2010, 04:45 AM
used both the dif is all price they are the same exact compound the herculiner has added ground rubber thats it

Thanks for the info Sic. What's your opinion on either one? you have a pref on looks for either one?

bassman3
01-03-2010, 05:18 AM
my bad

on1wheel01
01-03-2010, 12:55 PM
herc and dupli color both have rubber bits in them. Herc has a bit more though. Rust o does not have it in there. If it does it's tiny tiny pieces a much smoother finish