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IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 06:12 AM
After everything I read on these and eventually getting sold on them, and now I can't pick them up. Sonixelectronics has them discontinued and they had them for around 150. Anyone got some links to anywhere I can still grab them at that price? Much appreciated.

rusty_armadillo
12-29-2009, 06:27 AM
Ohhhhh noooo

Xprime4
12-29-2009, 09:22 AM
there's few set for sale in the classified....

Jason19
12-29-2009, 10:05 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270499481139&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=%3F*I8&GUID=ce140af21250a02652f17331fdf39485&itemid=270499481139&ff4=263602_263622

inkfx
12-29-2009, 01:43 PM
Yeah I'm pissed I missed the $139 price-tag. Got my money for them right after they got marked up. :(

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 02:35 PM
Yeah I'm pissed I missed the $139 price-tag. Got my money for them right after they got marked up. :(

haha Same here. Crucial timing.

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 02:38 PM
you didnt miss much guys. they were not worth more than 75-100$
it was just alot of hype. DEI doesnt know jack about making amps and speakers you were only paying for a name.

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 02:40 PM
Are the ID ctx65cs's worth it?

DonH
12-29-2009, 02:42 PM
go with cdt's :D

u want good little speakers for an amazing price? hit up Mike at vertex audio

google the bold i lazy

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 02:44 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=342796

definately way way way better than the ppi

http://woofersetc.amazonwebstore.com/Ctx65cs-Image-Dynamics-6.5-Component-Speaker/M/B001NNOZNQ.htm

hornedfrog1985
12-29-2009, 02:50 PM
I thought those ppis were the same as some of those ads speakers that sell for like $350.

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 02:54 PM
Yeah I read alot of good things about the PPI's, but I haven't read anything bad about the ctx65cs's either

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 02:57 PM
they were similar design but not even close to the same quality dei owns ads as well they have destroyed 4 companies I wonder who is next?

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 02:58 PM
PPI 356's (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17121_Precision+Power+PPI+356CS.html)

I posted the link so people could see them, but I was wondering if the ID's come with the baffle and also the different tweeter mounts? I'm not sure if thats pretty standard.

Next question is, I was going to run these and then amp them with the following pay check. Will these run and sound ok (better than stock) just off my head unit amp'n them?

lucas569
12-29-2009, 03:02 PM
ive heard mixed reviews on the ppi's some like the way they sound some dont, i went with pioneer prs720 based on the rave reviews but its def not a spl monster...

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 03:02 PM
i dont remember what comes in the box
but for a short while they should be ok on deck.

lucas569
12-29-2009, 03:06 PM
PPI 356's (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17121_Precision+Power+PPI+356CS.html)

I posted the link so people could see them, but I was wondering if the ID's come with the baffle and also the different tweeter mounts? I'm not sure if thats pretty standard.

Next question is, I was going to run these and then amp them with the following pay check. Will these run and sound ok (better than stock) just off my head unit amp'n them?

youll get better sound but you wont hear them really shine until you put some real jice behind them.... cant recall but i think they can take 100w rms all day.

ID have really good midbass from what ive read....

Jason19
12-29-2009, 03:06 PM
I run the ppis on the dd c4a and they sounded great got really loud and sound good doing it. They can can way more then rated and thats when they start to shine. for 135 shipped they cant be beat thats all there is to it.

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 03:12 PM
I run the ppis on the dd c4a and they sounded great got really loud and sound good doing it. They can can way more then rated and thats when they start to shine. for 135 shipped they cant be beat thats all there is to it.

The PPI's are harder to find with them being discontinued, so I'm looking for something in the range of them now. A good speaker around the same price. Seems like reviews pair the ID's in the same ball park as the PPI's, so I'm pretty sold of them. At this point I'm just looking for anymore reviews on them and how people feel.

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 03:12 PM
the id will take 150 pretty easy and have amazingly good midbass.

you cant find the ppi anywhere worth buying from anymore either.

hornedfrog1985
12-29-2009, 03:13 PM
Pretty sure they are just backordered. Where did you see they were discontinued?

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 03:14 PM
Also some nice amps to push the ID's...what are everyones thoughts? I may just grab it now if I can afford it.

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 03:15 PM
Pretty sure they are just backordered. Where did you see they were discontinued?

Sonix said they were discontinued

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 03:15 PM
if you want a louder speaker with better midbass and sq i have the PVI quarts as well but they are a tad more money at 185 plus shipping. but they have a 2 yr warranty and they are a bit better on midbass and highs both and take quite a bit more power as well.

hell they have a 1.6" inverted dome tweeter that takes 100+ watts all by itself and they are bi ampable ;)
i run 105 to each tweet and 210 or more to each mid.

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 03:17 PM
i am obviously partial to mbquart but hands down you cant buy a better sq amp for the same money. a 2150 or a 280 would make any of these speakers sound ****!

Jason19
12-29-2009, 03:17 PM
lol the ppi comps are just as good as the id comps stop talking like there garbage aslo the ppis are bi ampable aslo

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 03:17 PM
and they are being discontinued remember CES is in a week ;) new models coming

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 03:18 PM
no one said they are garbage but for the money the id or pvi will *** rape them all day hell the opti will stay right with them as well.

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 03:22 PM
i am obviously partial to mbquart but hands down you cant buy a better sq amp for the same money. a 2150 or a 280 would make any of these speakers sound ****!

Where is a good place to shop these? I'm going to look in to them. I appreciate the help by the way.

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 03:29 PM
i sell the MBQuart cheaper than anywhere else with a factory warranty
but you can look at woofersect, onlinecarstereo ect...

IBmikexxx
12-29-2009, 03:31 PM
What would it cost to run those PVI Speakers with the better of those two amps, through you?

SicAudio
12-29-2009, 03:33 PM
if you are doing just 1 set ( which is all you should need ) the 2150 amp and the 6.5's would be 315-325 shipped 2 yr warranty on the speakers 1 yr on the amp...

lucas569
12-29-2009, 03:46 PM
The PPI's are harder to find with them being discontinued, so I'm looking for something in the range of them now. A good speaker around the same price. Seems like reviews pair the ID's in the same ball park as the PPI's, so I'm pretty sold of them. At this point I'm just looking for anymore reviews on them and how people feel.

diyma has a huge thread on these....

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/hot-deals/59405-awesome-comp-set-cheap-must-buy.html

Xprime4
12-30-2009, 10:41 AM
definately way way way better than the ppi

http://woofersetc.amazonwebstore.com/Ctx65cs-Image-Dynamics-6.5-Component-Speaker/M/B001NNOZNQ.htm

i went from the ctx to the ppi and the ppi are way better in every departement beside midbass... they do drop lower and sound more precise down there.. just lacking midbass a little

Ignatowski
12-30-2009, 11:09 AM
Directed bought ADS and Crushed them like a bug..........


GJ ..

IBmikexxx
12-30-2009, 02:47 PM
I went ahead and grabbed the ID's. There's so much good stuff about them. I'm now trying to figure out which amp I want to push them. Let me know know you guys think.

Hoodlum007
12-30-2009, 02:50 PM
I have a set of the PPI's as well as the ID CTX's. The PPI comps impressed the heck out of me when i first saw them but the sound let me down big time.
The PPI's look like the old a/d/s comps and have a very impressive crossover but they lacked midbass, power handling and quality sound.

I think they are worth the 130 bucks they go for but no way they are worth the 350 bucks they would retail for. If the PPI comps sounded any way close to what they look like it would be a different story. The PPI are rated at like rms and distort with higher wattages, its no wonder a/d/s and PPI are now gone. DEI has no idea WTF they are doing when it comes to car audio.

I like my CTX's much better compared to the PPI's.

IBmikexxx
12-30-2009, 03:13 PM
Thats good to hear considering I just bought the CTX's

stocker08
12-30-2009, 03:29 PM
The PPI's are solid speakers. Don't listen to SicAudio. Usually talks other stuff down so he can sell his own ****.

http://www.avhub.com.au/ProductReview.aspx?MagazineID=7&ProductReviewID=395

James Bang
12-30-2009, 05:35 PM
The PPI's are solid speakers. Don't listen to SicAudio. Usually talks other stuff down so he can sell his own ****.

http://www.avhub.com.au/ProductReview.aspx?MagazineID=7&ProductReviewID=395

Isn't he an authorized dealer offering factory warranty on products sold to forum members at a discount?

You can't go wrong with sicaudio

stocker08
12-30-2009, 05:44 PM
Isn't he an authorized dealer offering factory warranty on products sold to forum members at a discount?

You can't go wrong with sicaudio

Good point. My apologies.

James Bang
12-30-2009, 06:44 PM
Good point. My apologies.

I personally think it's messed up for the dealers, whose territories he is crossing and the forum members that are competing for sales.

Xprime4
12-31-2009, 12:39 AM
The PPI's are solid speakers. Don't listen to SicAudio. Usually talks other stuff down so he can sell his own ****.

http://www.avhub.com.au/ProductReview.aspx?MagazineID=7&ProductReviewID=395

saw that few days ago and I think the review is pretty accurate

SicAudio
12-31-2009, 12:55 AM
I have a set of the PPI's as well as the ID CTX's. The PPI comps impressed the heck out of me when i first saw them but the sound let me down big time. DEI has no idea WTF they are doing when it comes to car audio.

I like my CTX's much better compared to the PPI's.

theirs a side by side right there for ya ;)


The PPI's are solid speakers. Don't listen to SicAudio. Usually talks other stuff down so he can sell his own ****.

http://www.avhub.com.au/ProductReview.aspx?MagazineID=7&ProductReviewID=395

i told him the Id and ctx were better which they are. i also offered him a step up as well so i didnt talk **** trying to sell him anything, in fact i dont sell ctx or Id other than the tw25s tweeters ( which earthquake makes not ctx :) )

Isn't he an authorized dealer offering factory warranty on products sold to forum members at a discount?

You can't go wrong with sicaudio

thank you man ;)


Good point. My apologies.

no biggie dude alot of people say it i dont really care i know the real deal ;)


I personally think it's messed up for the dealers, whose territories he is crossing and the forum members that are competing for sales.

i am not stepping on anyone really look at ebay? look at all the grey market non authorized sites like woofers ect sonic ect that i compete with for things i do sell. just to try and get people a real factory warranty vs a websites "warranty" i really dont make alot to be honest. and i have actually discussed the issue with several factory marketing people and they say i am well within the boundries, i use the forums as a medium of communication to do direct sales any dealer is allowed to do it they just don't, 90% of them want retail msrp or nothing lolz.

Korn4Life
12-31-2009, 01:04 AM
I have a pair of Kicker Resolution RS5 components that will sound just as good and prob be louder then anything in its price range.

Check out the pics of these **** beast
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436238

SicAudio
12-31-2009, 01:04 AM
:)

thx for the awesome sig bro ;)

DarkScorpion
12-31-2009, 01:40 AM
I know many of you guys are saying the CTX's are better than the PPI's, but how do they fare when given more power than rated? I was planning on running a pair of the PPI's passive with 200w per side, but want to go with the ID's after the PPI's were discontinued. I'm thinking the ID's might not like that much power, since a lot of people comment on how efficient they are and little power they need to sound good. I know I can turn down the gain, but I was hoping to get the most from my amp. What do you guys think?

SicAudio
12-31-2009, 01:54 AM
for that power i still say mbquart PVI
otherwise be nice with the gain.

DarkScorpion
12-31-2009, 02:07 AM
Have you personally ran that much power to the MB's? How are they passive?



Sorry for the thread jack btw.

SicAudio
12-31-2009, 02:10 AM
i have 210 to the mid and 105 to the tweets in my wifes minivan i sell them alot so yeah they take gobs of power man. in 1 cf sealed they have astonishing bass similar to a 200 watt 8" sub. in a deadened door on a midsize car they sound like a high end 6" subwoofer the tweeter has amazingly crisp clean sound.

but they are efficient enough to run on 100 -150 to both the tweet and mid combined using the x over

James Bang
12-31-2009, 02:16 AM
:)

thx for the awesome sig bro ;)

i was actually being sarcastic..

SicAudio
12-31-2009, 02:18 AM
too late now lolz

James Bang
12-31-2009, 02:29 AM
I wish all authorized dealers posted and sold their merchandise on forums.

SicAudio
12-31-2009, 02:30 AM
it sure would make everything a bit cheaper eh :) better for the economy too IMO lower priced volume sales would generate more business as well.

James Bang
12-31-2009, 02:34 AM
Why not make a bunch of For Sale threads in the classified section?

SicAudio
12-31-2009, 02:35 AM
i thought about it but wasnt sure if they would let me or not ?

Hoodlum007
12-31-2009, 11:36 AM
for that power i still say mbquart PVI
otherwise be nice with the gain.

Those MB's are yucky man, the tweeters are shrill and harsh. MB's before Maxsonics did sound good but now days they just do not cut it as far as quality sound in concerned.

James Bang
12-31-2009, 03:29 PM
i thought about it but wasnt sure if they would let me or not ?

there's only one way to find out... If you say you're well within your boundaries, then why not?

Also, it would be nice if you didn't wh@re the forum with your biased suggestions of MB quart products. IMO, forums should be about members helping members, not dealers trying to persuade members just to make a buck.

SicAudio
12-31-2009, 03:47 PM
Those MB's are yucky man, the tweeters are shrill and harsh. MB's before Maxsonics did sound good but now days they just do not cut it as far as quality sound in concerned.

they have an adjustment on the x0ver to prevent that. installing any component wrong will make them sound horrible. the only mbquart i have heard that was better was the old q series and signature series.


there's only one way to find out... If you say you're well within your boundaries, then why not?

i meant forum rules i am not sure if they allow it or not?

Also, it would be nice if you didn't wh@re the forum with your biased suggestions of MB quart products. IMO, forums should be about members helping members, not dealers trying to persuade members just to make a buck.

i recommend products i dont sell all the time bro and i help anytime i possibly can as well :)
but i understand what your saying and I am getting quite a bit better at it i think. if you think i am allowed to make a bunch of for sale threads in the classifieds according to forum rules i am all over that man lolz

Fender5
01-02-2010, 01:10 PM
I got my ID Ctx65cs in today!
I bought them off of woofersetc so they were authorized and I had to send them into repair. Only took one week.
They sent new crossovers, new tweeters, and grills. The mids are probably reconed as they were reading weird ohms before I sent them in but now are correct. The sticker on the back is sorta rough from when i had installed them.
But I gave them 150W RMS. Ended up messin up a crossover from user error. But I'd totally recommend them. Image Dynamics' customer service is great.

hornedfrog1985
01-02-2010, 01:15 PM
Second to none. They take a while to get new products out, but when they do they are done right.

azimuth
01-03-2010, 02:38 PM
not a thing wrong with the ppi's. they sound alot better than the type R comps i have. they would do really well in a sealed pod.

hornedfrog1985
01-03-2010, 03:09 PM
I was told they would do terrible in a sealed pod, and that they are made to be IB.

azimuth
01-03-2010, 03:12 PM
I was told they would do terrible in a sealed pod, and that they are made to be IB.

i heard they do well sealed. i'll model them up and find out. since i don't have a sealed pod, i didn't run the numbers myself.

Mitch86
01-03-2010, 03:32 PM
I have a pair of Kicker Resolution RS5 components that will sound just as good and prob be louder then anything in its price range.

Check out the pics of these **** beast
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436238

Pretty sure i sold a set of these for like 50 shipped.:crap: didnt think they were all that great, but i had never hooked them up. they were a little beat up, but fully functional and had everything with them. guess someone got a hell of a deal. :D

millertime49
01-05-2010, 10:22 AM
here is a set of ppi's forsale if anyone still wants a set.. not mine.. just seen them

http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26752

hornedfrog1985
01-05-2010, 10:25 AM
Those are mine, and I have them for sale on here too.

fliptwister
01-12-2010, 11:51 PM
Bummer about the PPI 356cs being discontinued. They are really a great component set. I have loved mine. Every type of music I have thrown at them sounds great. They sound better than any set I have heard but my experience is pretty limited. To my ears they sound better than similar priced sets from Alpine, Infinity, Pioneer, etc. I have not heard higher end sets like Focal or Hertz. I considered the ID set when I bought my PPI set but they were $40 more.