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TnT_Sounds
12-22-2009, 07:00 PM
New thread with no bullshit.

8 Havoc 15's
4 Sundown 4500's
8 Kinetik 16v batts
3 DC Power 16v alts

Mids and Highs are still at a toss up.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2671/4206699637_1ba4e7502d_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2794/4206699645_4de57c7a44_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4206699647_46df1cfc95_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4206699649_e8b0c7599f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/4206699651_181ab341c4_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4206699633_c473603b8c_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2641/4113827100_d616c7a8e4_b.jpg

More progress after the holiday vacation.

One Bad MOFO
12-22-2009, 07:02 PM
That's gonna be sweet. I always loved the way those havocs looked

twistedchild420
12-22-2009, 07:06 PM
THIS....is how you start a build log! Holy ****!!!!! :drool:

b4ss_h34d
12-22-2009, 07:06 PM
some nice stuff u got there kid.. now hurry up!

Mookie
12-22-2009, 07:08 PM
Whoa, Gonna be tuned in for this one.

tez4life
12-22-2009, 07:28 PM
Going to be nice, looking forward to this :D

KHARPS
12-22-2009, 07:30 PM
Nice equipment Trav! Subscribed to this one.

MisterGrubbs
12-22-2009, 07:30 PM
What's it going in and what's the ETA to the finished product?

I definitely cant wait to see this unfold.

Andrizzle
12-22-2009, 07:39 PM
I had two of these suckuhz on 4k and they rocked.

This will be sick

AcidikBass20
12-22-2009, 07:50 PM
cant wait to see this one, should be good.

boom24
12-22-2009, 08:27 PM
THIS....is how you start a build log! Holy ****!!!!! :drool:



x2:crazy:

TnT_Sounds
12-22-2009, 08:49 PM
What's it going in and what's the ETA to the finished product?

I definitely cant wait to see this unfold.

Hopefuly it will be up and playing by the end of January into mid March.


THIS....is how you start a build log! Holy ****!!!!! :drool:

**** straight nukka:veryhapp:

TnT_Sounds
12-22-2009, 08:50 PM
some nice stuff u got there kid.. now hurry up!

I would like to borrow your TL sometime.

b4ss_h34d
12-22-2009, 10:43 PM
id be more then happy to take it to you but it STILL dont work.... maybe with income tax i can get it fixed then we can meter

KHARPS
12-23-2009, 12:14 AM
What are the specs on the box? The sealed chambers looks huge and the ported looks small.

skadude016
12-23-2009, 12:22 AM
cool

galacticmonkey
12-23-2009, 12:52 AM
What are the specs on the box? The sealed chambers looks huge and the ported looks small.

I actually sent him a PM about that.

CranberryYumYum
12-23-2009, 10:32 AM
all havocs :)

NoCoSPL
12-23-2009, 02:37 PM
Sweet! You got some pics of all the equipment. Looks good. I can't wait to see this one either, i may have to take a small drive down south.

KHARPS
12-23-2009, 02:40 PM
I actually sent him a PM about that.

I wasn't trying to act like I know anything about 4th orders, cuz I don't. I was just going off of what I've learned from you, 80, and Robin :)

TnT_Sounds
12-23-2009, 02:44 PM
I wasn't trying to act like I know anything about 4th orders, cuz I don't. I was just going off of what I've learned from you, 80, and Robin :)

I believe its about 15cubes on the ported and around 18cubes on the sealed.

I don't know much either but the graphs a got with this it should work just fine ;)

KHARPS
12-23-2009, 02:45 PM
I believe its about 15cubes on the ported and around 18cubes on the sealed.

I don't know much either but the graphs a got with this it should work just fine ;)

Awesome! It should turn out great.

hrtbrk1
12-30-2009, 12:21 PM
in for the build

Cap'n Andy
12-30-2009, 12:27 PM
This is gonna slam, subscribed.

sub-FATHER
12-30-2009, 02:47 PM
wheres my CROW

80INCHES
12-30-2009, 08:29 PM
I believe its about 15cubes on the ported and around 18cubes on the sealed.

I don't know much either but the graphs a got with this it should work just fine ;)

shrink the sealed chamber to 12cubes and add the difference to ur ported chamber..making it 21cubes and ur straight



80

Mr. Slate
12-30-2009, 11:32 PM
Excellent advice 80.

galacticmonkey
12-30-2009, 11:34 PM
I told him to go smaller sealed and bigger ported as well... I just hope it has good output this way.

b4ss_h34d
12-31-2009, 08:24 PM
shrink the sealed chamber to 12cubes and add the difference to ur ported chamber..making it 21cubes and ur straight



80

its gunna take a whole lot more to make travis staight

NoCoSPL
12-31-2009, 08:28 PM
Yeah he's pretty ghey

TnT_Sounds
12-31-2009, 10:23 PM
Finaly got the rest of the needed HDF. And I will say this stuff is the ****!

Everythings cut
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4232776498_a938738b74_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2572/4232776454_ce3bf0392c_o.jpg

Props to Daren for loaning me his router and home-made circle jig!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2655/4227257744_5120db4c19_o.jpg


shrink the sealed chamber to 12cubes and add the difference to ur ported chamber..making it 21cubes and ur straight



80

Here's the response graph. It will work just fine;)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2709/4230912502_7351b93902_b.jpg

Should have most of it together and glassed tomorrow. Then might power it up Tuesday and see how it sounds.

wone
01-01-2010, 04:06 PM
good **** bro

NoCoSPL
01-01-2010, 05:21 PM
Very nice, more pics!!!

uGotF-ckedUp
01-05-2010, 12:22 AM
Props to Daren for loaning me his router and home-made circle jig!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2655/4227257744_5120db4c19_o.jpg


whats the gun for? lol

CranberryYumYum
01-05-2010, 09:15 PM
whats the gun for? lol

shooting people..

______
01-05-2010, 09:26 PM
That alot of equeipment... I'd keep my gun with me to lol

good luck with the build can't wait to see it finished

stevew007
01-05-2010, 11:46 PM
Props to Daren for loaning me his router and home-made circle jig!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2655/4227257744_5120db4c19_o.jpg


whats the gun for? lol

it's for starting the hole for the router:D

tez4life
01-06-2010, 12:05 AM
Props to Daren for loaning me his router and home-made circle jig!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2655/4227257744_5120db4c19_o.jpg


whats the gun for? lol


"The ******", lol.

I loved Cabin Fever :veryhapp:

and this build :)

sub-FATHER
01-06-2010, 02:40 AM
its a fukin pelet gun!

stevew007
01-06-2010, 11:26 AM
its a fukin pelet gun!

there always has to be one to ruin the fun

Buck
01-06-2010, 11:48 AM
Looks like a ****** build. I'm keeping track of this one.

NoCoSPL
01-06-2010, 12:41 PM
it's for starting the hole for the router:D

This^^^

sub-FATHER
01-06-2010, 12:42 PM
there always has to be one to ruin the fun
its a CO2, its all good!

bdawson72
01-06-2010, 12:49 PM
Dang.....This is gonna be serious. 2 of them do 48-49's in my truck. So this is just gonna be crazy.

NoCoSPL
01-06-2010, 12:49 PM
How do you know? Tnt's got lots of guns I'm sure he wouldn't buy a plastic one. I wanna get some time on his AR15 ;)

corrie32
01-06-2010, 01:11 PM
New thread with no bullshit.

8 Havoc 15's
4 Sundown 4500's
8 Kinetik 16v batts
3 DC Power 16v alts

Mids and Highs are still at a toss up.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2671/4206699637_1ba4e7502d_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2794/4206699645_4de57c7a44_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4206699647_46df1cfc95_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4206699649_e8b0c7599f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/4206699651_181ab341c4_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4206699633_c473603b8c_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2641/4113827100_d616c7a8e4_b.jpg

More progress after the holiday vacation.


**** you have a lot of money!!!!1:D

TnT_Sounds
01-06-2010, 06:11 PM
its a fukin pelet gun!

its a CO2, its all good!

Lool, I have money. No need for BB guns ;) That was a friends FNP 9mm I was cleaning.

:p:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2691/4252385864_5185114698_o.jpg

Since I live at home and my AR is full auto, I'm not allowed to take it out of the safe for a pic, so thats part of the family too just not in there.

lucas569
01-06-2010, 06:21 PM
almost looks like a keltec, love the glock what model is it?

i have a model 19 myself with the old clips not the 10 bullet max clips, blah!

TnT_Sounds
01-06-2010, 06:29 PM
almost looks like a keltec, love the glock what model is it?

i have a model 19 myself with the old clips not the 10 bullet max clips, blah!

Its a model 21 .45mm The old clips are nice, i tend to have a problem with my new one. I've had to re-press the spring god knows how many times.

phemps
01-06-2010, 06:43 PM
Lool, I have money. No need for BB guns ;) That was a friends FNP 9mm I was cleaning.

Guns, money, and subs
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2691/4252385864_5185114698_o.jpg

Since I live at home I'm not allowed to get my AR out of the safe for a pic, but thats part of the family too just not in there.

woot woot

TnT_Sounds
01-09-2010, 04:18 AM
Some pics from a couple days ago. ***** building by yourself :crap:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4258210097_31c0b33507_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2678/4258968106_c696987aff_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2790/4258968056_69c71d335b_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4258210021_4cf22ddb26_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4258210075_2ea0fec3eb_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4258210035_a11968e431_o.jpg

Annnarbor84
01-09-2010, 04:37 AM
Dont be a ***** you live in BFE so you are more than capable of building by yourself!!!! If I lived where you live I would import midgets. They dont eat much and they dont want much:fyi:

TnT_Sounds
01-09-2010, 05:01 AM
I'll "import" your trailer trash self :fyi:

Annnarbor84
01-09-2010, 05:08 AM
I'll "import" your trailer trash self :fyi:

Dont tempt me you ****, I require alot of food and alot of "drank". I will skullfuck your build, just saying:fyi:

TnT_Sounds
01-09-2010, 05:09 AM
I dont drank, sorry :(

subzero
01-09-2010, 10:30 AM
:yumyum: suscribed...

subzero
01-09-2010, 10:34 AM
Dont be a ***** you live in BFE so you are more than capable of building by yourself!!!! If I lived where you live I would import midgets. They dont eat much and they dont want much:fyi:

Umpa-Lumpa http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww35/brianncns/umpa-lumpa-40881.jpg will work for candy?

basshedz06
01-09-2010, 11:55 AM
too much bullshit not enough pics an buiid man nice start though lets see the rest of it

NoCoSPL
01-10-2010, 12:32 AM
Lookin good travis!

TnT_Sounds
01-11-2010, 12:27 AM
some better pics

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/4264393905_ef6b62e798_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4265145654_51bd984598_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4265146638_8c2caba984_b.jpg

NoCoSPL
01-11-2010, 01:36 AM
:drool:

NoCoSPL
01-11-2010, 01:38 AM
And looks like its going to be very loud!

sub-FATHER
01-11-2010, 01:43 PM
I like my Crow served fresh, i dont want none of that
Road kill **** either, you best pluck the feathers and treat it like
chicken...

that box is SICK, and this better be at the shows this year,(or I'll kick your ***):D and i mean ALL OF EM. i want some competition and i can guarantee after this year in Colorado people are gonna start going BIG when they see our builds...

bhsdriller
01-11-2010, 02:01 PM
looks awesome

might be a little loud

b4ss_h34d
01-11-2010, 08:48 PM
I like my Crow served fresh, i dont want none of that
Road kill **** either, you best pluck the feathers and treat it like
chicken...

that box is SICK, and this better be at the shows this year,(or I'll kick your ***):D and i mean ALL OF EM. i want some competition and i can guarantee after this year in Colorado people are gonna start going BIG when they see our builds...

i just need a better payin job and ill be buildin like u guys

Highs on bass
01-12-2010, 08:24 AM
just curious why build the small boxes to make your port size. when it would have been easier to just build that entire area as one big opening... like you have a small box then a little bigger box beside it. seems like wasted space there. OR are batts or something going int here?

TnT_Sounds
01-12-2010, 09:15 AM
Huh?

You do know what a 4th order bandpass is right?

NoCoSPL
01-12-2010, 09:27 AM
just curious why build the small boxes to make your port size. when it would have been easier to just build that entire area as one big opening... like you have a small box then a little bigger box beside it. seems like wasted space there. OR are batts or something going int here?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

loud-n-low
01-12-2010, 09:43 AM
nice Suzuki. oh ya the subs and amps are nice too :)

sub-FATHER
01-12-2010, 12:27 PM
just curious why build the small boxes to make your port size. when it would have been easier to just build that entire area as one big opening... like you have a small box then a little bigger box beside it. seems like wasted space there. OR are batts or something going int here?

is that a 163.9 at your head rest i see? and a 151 in the kick????

tommyk90
01-12-2010, 12:31 PM
Personally I wouldn't have done the subs firing into each other for fear of some cancellation/too much pressure on the cones, but good build regardless.

Hope it's loud. :)

Buck
01-12-2010, 12:32 PM
I want something exactly like this setup in a wall.

sub-FATHER
01-12-2010, 12:40 PM
Personally I wouldn't have done the subs firing into each other for fear of some cancellation/too much pressure on the cones, but good build regardless.

Hope it's loud. :)

i had my 8 12s like that firing at each other and wired them in opposite phase and they did push the others why they pulled. but picked up deeps from hell.

AudioAnonymous
01-12-2010, 01:26 PM
Some pics from a couple days ago. ***** building by yourself :crap:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4258210097_31c0b33507_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2678/4258968106_c696987aff_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2790/4258968056_69c71d335b_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4258210021_4cf22ddb26_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4258210075_2ea0fec3eb_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4258210035_a11968e431_o.jpg

By yourself is really the only way to do it. No one can say they built it for you and take away your accomplishments.

groundpound4200
01-12-2010, 01:38 PM
I build all my **** by myself :crap: ripping 4x8 sheets of mdf *****

AudioAnonymous
01-12-2010, 01:46 PM
I build all my **** by myself :crap: ripping 4x8 sheets of mdf *****

As did I. Finding creative ways to lift 900 pound back walls and 300 pound baffles into a van was the most fun I've ever had alone. :laugh:

2003F150
01-12-2010, 02:05 PM
As did I. Finding creative ways to lift 900 pound back walls and 300 pound baffles into a van was the most fun I've ever had alone. :laugh:

LOL

TnT_Sounds
01-12-2010, 08:30 PM
Personally I wouldn't have done the subs firing into each other for fear of some cancellation/too much pressure on the cones, but good build regardless.

Hope it's loud. :)

Ya, I've brought up that concern with many speaker engineers including, Scott(Fi), Nick Morgan, David Moore, Nick W.(IA) and others who have ran/seen similar setups.

They all had said that as long as the woofers are all doing the same thing at the same time(in phase), there will be no cancelation at all. I was also concerned with as much pressure there will be excerted in that area if the cone bodys will sustain the mid 20hz region and I was told the Havocs have a pretty superior cone structure and should stand up to it without having to worry about blowing dustcaps off.

I've gathered mostly my info on this build from Mr. Nick Morgan as he had a similar setup in the Nissan, Chad Hix old truck.:)


I build all my **** by myself :crap: ripping 4x8 sheets of mdf *****

Ya, this was no fun at all. I need to start wearin a respirator as well. Hopefuly this is the last time I mess with MDF for a while.:crap:

tommyk90
01-13-2010, 01:50 AM
Ya, I've brought up that concern with many speaker engineers including, Scott(Fi), Nick Morgan, David Moore, Nick W.(IA) and others who have ran/seen similar setups.

They all had said that as long as the woofers are all doing the same thing at the same time(in phase), there will be no cancelation at all. I was also concerned with as much pressure there will be excerted in that area if the cone bodys will sustain the mid 20hz region and I was told the Havocs have a pretty superior cone structure and should stand up to it without having to worry about blowing dustcaps off.

I've gathered mostly my info on this build from Mr. Nick Morgan as he had a similar setup in the Nissan, Chad Hix old truck.:)

Yeah like I said, I'm sure it'll work out ok, but just as a design aspect I would rather the woofers be firing the air outwards as in a V-shaped enclosure than just into one another, pressurizing the chamber, and then outwards.

kotec123
01-13-2010, 01:52 AM
Yeah like I said, I'm sure it'll work out ok, but just as a design aspect I would rather the woofers be firing the air outwards as in a V-shaped enclosure than just into one another, pressurizing the chamber, and then outwards.

sounds logical

sub-FATHER
01-14-2010, 12:38 PM
Yeah like I said, I'm sure it'll work out ok, but just as a design aspect I would rather the woofers be firing the air outwards as in a V-shaped enclosure than just into one another, pressurizing the chamber, and then outwards.

yeah this design requires you to wire one side of four in the opposite phase so they can operate properly. they push pull and its easy to overexert. although the lows are rediculous!

DB-Audio
01-14-2010, 01:27 PM
im intune for this build looks awesome so far

NoCoSPL
01-15-2010, 01:42 AM
For how big of a build this is, it doesn't seem to be getting much attention. Suprising.

sub-FATHER
01-24-2010, 12:42 AM
ok travis, its been nice out, i wantta see some progress. show me some work.

______
01-24-2010, 01:12 AM
I build all my **** by myself :crap: ripping 4x8 sheets of mdf *****

True Story... I like doing by myself, but an extra set hands wouldnt hurt now and then


Ya, I've brought up that concern with many speaker engineers including, Scott(Fi), Nick Morgan, David Moore, Nick W.(IA) and others who have ran/seen similar setups.



Ya, this was no fun at all. I need to start wearin a respirator as well. Hopefuly this is the last time I mess with MDF for a while.:crap:

Yeah I just finished a 3.2cu. ft. box and I had mdf powder in my nose and throat for a week I cant fathom what you got going on after this build lol

So how far along are you know?

TnT_Sounds
01-24-2010, 06:09 PM
Box is no longer in my posession. We took it over to my buddys house that does auto body to glass it and paint it. Should be painted by tomorrow night with PPG CHA white and granedere blue with a blue pearl in the clear. Also going to be getting new alts from Mechman.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2732/4299281577_e1f219c72d_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2702/4299281575_93a0b16af0_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4299281583_476a3c9306_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/4299281587_e0323aaf83_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2778/4299281591_c6a1c7ed9f_b.jpg

Being inside that box without a resperator was brutal but I made it.

The resin sure knocks the pups out
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4300032440_cc81a84501_b.jpg


ok travis, its been nice out, i wantta see some progress. show me some work.

Dont you worry about me. You just keep licking them pretty chops of yours for that crow you'll be cobbling. I managed to get in some target practice too and this is the weapon that will bring down your savory crow filet ;)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4299281579_a6b354ed58_b.jpg

sub-FATHER
01-24-2010, 11:34 PM
did you build the box or someone else?

and if you use that on my Crow there wont be no crow left!

TnT_Sounds
01-25-2010, 12:09 AM
did you build the box or someone else?

and if you use that on my Crow there wont be no crow left!

I build all my own ****.. Main reason for it taking so long. I'm a perfectionist and even a 1/16" off bugs me.

I guess I could use my little .22 but it wouldn't be as fun as my AR. Possibly a head shot will be adequate and with the size of the crow here I'm sure there will be plenty left :thumbsup:

LDW3RD
01-25-2010, 09:01 AM
Awesome build.
Nice hammer (AR-15?).

basebalz13
01-25-2010, 11:32 AM
Nick Morgans truck got loud and low.

TnT_Sounds
01-27-2010, 08:02 PM
Awaiting on alternators from Mechman and closed cell foam and CLD tiles from SDS to put under the box before I mount it permanently.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4310396292_7284dd9cc7_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/4309660219_9b98716718_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4309660173_f857b33078_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4310396690_5ca70af8fc_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4309659909_88c50854db_b.jpg

Also got a new LCR for when I get my CCW permit.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2796/4309658603_e0a0e43e5d_b.jpg

NoCoSPL
01-28-2010, 08:53 PM
Nice progress, keep it up

TnT_Sounds
02-02-2010, 08:04 PM
my buddy tim got some braces for the b-pillars in and the panels in the bed welded. Didn't take much to make them solid as you can see

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/4325915607_d238b3beca_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2782/4325915671_e90d92faa4_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4325915761_a2fc51defa_o.jpg

going to fab up brackets to put these in.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/4326652784_8ae6646975_o.jpg

singlesubsetup
02-02-2010, 08:17 PM
wow! nice work :)

sparkplug121988
02-02-2010, 10:21 PM
looking good and strong man. Nice work..

TnT_Sounds
02-02-2010, 11:06 PM
cool thanks

rival904
02-02-2010, 11:18 PM
this thing isnt playing yet?

TnT_Sounds
02-02-2010, 11:39 PM
its been played many times ;)

rival904
02-03-2010, 12:07 AM
ok just making sure, i cant really talk because ive only ordered 1 outa 8 subs lol

TnT_Sounds
02-05-2010, 10:55 PM
some quick test pics

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4333258031_2357d20e48.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4333258029_3ec6bd236a.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4333258017_d68a92b85a.jpg

TnT_Sounds
02-05-2010, 10:57 PM
some test vids


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVuW3OyS2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iuzfKldHYo

basebalz13
02-05-2010, 11:06 PM
failed links

basebalz13
02-05-2010, 11:17 PM
on that 2nd vid i was sorta like, WTFF FAIL!!!!!


then you turned it up more :D

TnT_Sounds
02-06-2010, 12:10 AM
vids of darens car.. this is what we used for power. only 4kw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPcGkwTrTQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwrNDDr2BtM

TnT_Sounds
02-06-2010, 12:11 AM
failed links

you fail :fyi:

basebalz13
02-06-2010, 12:12 AM
you fail :fyi:

u edited the posts and corrected them ;)

sub-FATHER
02-06-2010, 01:00 AM
so how did you have to wire those subs? in opposite phase?

SoundWave.Co
02-06-2010, 01:21 AM
I think you need to buy 8 more AA 15s.:laugh:looks good though

NoCoSPL
02-06-2010, 01:24 AM
Nice, i can't wait to hear this one, when do you figure your gonna put it all in the truck?

TnT_Sounds
02-06-2010, 01:45 AM
lol..

they are wired in phase. Thats how you're supposed to do it. One side in opposite phase would be similar to a push/pull isobaric sealed box and thats not what this is. This is a 4th order bandpass.

completely finished the way i want it will probably end of march. I will go to SBN with it partialy done but still able to play on its own power.

andrew2944r
02-06-2010, 02:06 AM
Looking real nice Travis, can't wait to see this finished up.

2000LaDe
02-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Yeah like I said, I'm sure it'll work out ok, but just as a design aspect I would rather the woofers be firing the air outwards as in a V-shaped enclosure than just into one another, pressurizing the chamber, and then outwards.

yah but what do u know ;) stop making sense

basebalz13
02-06-2010, 03:58 PM
yah but what do u know ;) stop making sense

haha, this

sub-FATHER
02-07-2010, 02:06 AM
have you tried wiring one side of 4 in opposite phase? you should! just try it for kicks. when i did with my 8 12s in my 4th order bandpass, just like yours it got 10 times louder. so technically since it worked for mine it should work for yours!.

YouTube - 12 INCH KICKER CVRS ON HIFONICS BRUTUS 2610 AMPS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eh7McA7Sz4)

SoundWave.Co
02-07-2010, 02:46 AM
10 times louder is a very impressive claim, what was the actual pressure difference? IE, what was the SPL score before and after the phase wiring change....

sub-FATHER
02-07-2010, 02:29 PM
i'm making a statement! it was significantly louder!!! never metered it tho. but it is still something i believe travis should at LEAST TRY! just turn the phase on one amp to 180 and leave the other at 0.

my **** was shaking the hell outta the garage before. but after i switched my phases it was crazy loud. and my 8 12s were in a crx! i'm tempted to rebuild that box now with some custom built punch hx2 subs with killer suspensions and feed all 8 12s my soundigital SD16KD

thericanballer
02-07-2010, 04:21 PM
omg that is crazy. awesome job

______
02-07-2010, 06:21 PM
Thats nice man

how many lb's loaded??

TnT_Sounds
02-07-2010, 06:26 PM
I don't need to try it. I've done it before with my 6 12s. Didn't sound right. Only way a setup like that works is "ISOBARIC". It may have sounded good for you but yours was not a 4th order bandpass. Essentialy if I was to do that with mine I would be throwing the air back and forth like tossing a ball from hand to hand.

sub-FATHER
02-08-2010, 01:16 AM
my design was every bit of what yours is. and if you dont try it you could be missing out on some serious volume! it worked on mine, cant see why it wouldnt work for yours!

Tom (nismofreak) is the only person that heard mine, and he thought it was rediculous.

SoundWave.Co
02-08-2010, 02:05 AM
PLEASE, just try it to shut him up. Or at least just ell him you tried it...:laugh:.

slam
02-08-2010, 02:29 AM
aww looks like subtweaker and tnt made up

TnT_Sounds
02-08-2010, 03:38 AM
my design was every bit of what yours is. and if you dont try it you could be missing out on some serious volume! it worked on mine, cant see why it wouldnt work for yours!

Tom (nismofreak) is the only person that heard mine, and he thought it was rediculous.


I dont see no front tuned port walls, I just see 2 sealed boxes facing eachother. Like I said man, I've tried it before with my other bandpass. Didnt sound worth a ****. I would think lots of people with similar setups to mine almost identical in design would've tried it and still be doing it if it worked with these setups.

Tom also told me my previous setup was the loudest he's heard on music. So I take everything said with a grain of salt :laugh:

slam
02-08-2010, 03:46 AM
looks nice and cant wait for the meter.

tommyk90
02-08-2010, 04:08 AM
my design was every bit of what yours is. and if you dont try it you could be missing out on some serious volume! it worked on mine, cant see why it wouldnt work for yours!

Tom (nismofreak) is the only person that heard mine, and he thought it was rediculous.

Personally, I don't see how wiring one side out of phase would work in the slightest. While one side is moving out, the other side is moving in, effectively cancelling each other out. Both sides share the same airspace (the ported chamber), so both need to move in the same direction.

Doing what you suggested would be like wiring one sub out of phase in the setup you have now. Everything would cancel out and there would be zero output.

Somehow something must have been weird or done wrong in order for you to have any output with one side wired out of phase.

oxsign
02-08-2010, 09:06 AM
I think he might have had it out of phase to begin with. Then when he changed it, it was right (and louder, lol).

SoundWave.Co
02-08-2010, 01:19 PM
I think he might have had it out of phase to begin with. Then when he changed it, it was right (and louder, lol).

:laugh::laugh::laugh:but ignorance is bliss, he is happy believing that by FULL cancellation in the enclosure, it was louder. If I drive my truck backwards down the street, if I look forward, it goes even faster:wow::crazy::laugh:SAME LOGIC. In his mind, obviously, he does not ever make an install mistake, he only achieves the impossible, by doing the most simple change imaginable.:laugh:

Oh well, some car audio installers do not know that the red wire does NOT go to the black wire:laugh:

TnT_Sounds
02-10-2010, 04:02 AM
Mo work done brackets for seats welded up and box primed with a couple coats of self etching followed by some primer sealer

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still need to wet sand and I hve something planned for the back wall

Savag3
02-10-2010, 04:36 PM
szikk , thats gona crack !

TnT_Sounds
02-10-2010, 06:43 PM
szikk , thats gona crack !

engrish much?? :confused:

TnT_Sounds
02-12-2010, 11:16 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4352145603_08bda11e4d_b.jpg
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test fit with buckets

Annnarbor84
02-13-2010, 12:14 AM
You scatty bulldyke

SoundWave.Co
02-13-2010, 01:39 AM
lookin good, looks like it will match your purse:laugh:just joking. looks good.

TnT_Sounds
02-13-2010, 03:09 AM
You scatty bulldyke

Jealous leg-rider!

Annnarbor84
02-13-2010, 03:18 AM
Jealous leg-rider!

I will leg ride and cobble boots bish *****!!!!

TnT_Sounds
02-13-2010, 09:56 PM
I will leg ride and cobble boots bish *****!!!!

Not familar with your slang.

Cobble like cobblestone?

Farmacist
02-14-2010, 02:06 AM
stupid question but i really did read through the thread, what vehicle is this going in? Im just askin cuz theres pics of the box in different trucks

TnT_Sounds
02-14-2010, 03:57 AM
Goin in a Ford pick-up. The white one soon to be repainted

sub-FATHER
03-31-2010, 11:28 PM
bump bump bump bump tick tick tick tick. whats up with this build???? anything done yet? its been months!

Annnarbor84
04-01-2010, 02:12 AM
bump bump bump bump tick tick tick tick. whats up with this build???? anything done yet? its been months!

lawl

sub-FATHER
04-01-2010, 12:57 PM
beuler bueler

TnT_Sounds
04-11-2010, 03:04 AM
like i have said many times, i have many other projects outside of car audio. I have been working on a corvette with a friend for a man that now has cancer. So this build will be on hold.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4510142608_f685c13538_o.jpg



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putting these in were a *****!

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if anyone is familiar with vettes, they are all one casting gell-coat. So they are a ***** to do body work to. At corvette shows, they will also dock points if the vette is too nice. The way they are rated is as if they are factory fresh and from the factory in the door jams and small crevices they have small fish-eye buildup of paint and according to the judges of orig vettes that is what makes them more unique. So we even got the fish-eyes from the gell-coat along in the door jam and on the firewall.

SoundWave.Co
04-11-2010, 04:10 AM
Nice work on the Vette, and to vouch for ya, I know the truck is getting done. Keep up the good work.

Jaredturp
04-11-2010, 04:17 AM
I love the wall so far man.