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Plottin4success
12-16-2009, 08:06 PM
Well, after further listening, I'm realizing that my PPI 356cs mids are definately lacking some output. The tweets sound awesome though!!!!

Im thinking about getting these Tangband 6.5" subs to replace them...
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=264-832&ctab=2#Tabs


I'm running passive off of a Sundown SAX125.2.


What do yall think about these for running as mids in an IB setup???

Korn4Life
12-16-2009, 08:09 PM
Check these out
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-874

They remind me of the Old RE XXX mids. Im thinking they are the same just a diffrent name....

Plottin4success
12-16-2009, 08:18 PM
Yeah I saw those. They look REALLY beefy. They arent the same as the XXX mids though. They used XBL^2 in them. The Tangbands are just underhung.

I like the price of the ones I posted much better though, and I've heard ALOT of good about them. Most of it was just people that heard others opinions though. I would like some first hand opinions on them.

Xprime4
12-16-2009, 08:20 PM
the passive crossover cuts aroun 5k if i remember well....

I might change my mids too... honestly it'S the weak point of the set... midrange is pretty clear but midbass is just ... ok at best

Millertime1028
12-16-2009, 08:22 PM
Your looking at the wrong type of driver. Those are better suited as subwoofer in a 3 way setup or more a less just a dedicated midbass.

Millertime1028
12-16-2009, 08:22 PM
Look for a driver with a higher fs

Plottin4success
12-16-2009, 08:25 PM
Any suggestions?

RAM_Designs
12-16-2009, 08:28 PM
If the passive crossover is really at 5khz, it's hard to find a 6.5 woofer to play cleanly that high.

hornedfrog1985
12-16-2009, 08:29 PM
Find some ID oem mids.

Millertime1028
12-16-2009, 08:31 PM
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-372&FTR=295-372&CFID=5082240&CFTOKEN=62717414


I've played with these in a few installs with nice result's. Don't mind the freq response spec on the site. These WILL play upwards of 8k hz but with the 5k hz x-over on the PPI's passive it should be pretty nice.

jmanpc
12-16-2009, 08:35 PM
Those first TB speakers mentioned are subs, not mids. :fyi:

Plottin4success
12-16-2009, 08:40 PM
Yeah i realize that after doing some more research. haha

Jeremy M
12-16-2009, 08:46 PM
id oem's x2

Plottin4success
12-16-2009, 08:52 PM
Where the heck can I find those?

hornedfrog1985
12-16-2009, 08:56 PM
I didn't see you were saying to go with your passives. I don't know how high they can play honestly. You can find them on here, or on diyma.com

SicAudio
12-16-2009, 09:00 PM
google ;)

Ignatowski
12-17-2009, 06:28 AM
the 125w amp is a little small for a loud system - IMO
I have ADS/PPIs them in 2 cars with 150w on my car and 200w on a buddys car
and they get plenty loud for me -
your gonna be looking for 250-300 watts of front stage to compete with your substage if your sub is really loud-
so to just go out and buy new mids may get a little louder but may still lack the output your looking for...buy hey
if you find a mid that smokes the PPI let us know

Plottin4success
12-17-2009, 11:55 AM
the 125w amp is a little small for a loud system - IMO
I have ADS/PPIs them in 2 cars with 150w on my car and 200w on a buddys car
and they get plenty loud for me -
your gonna be looking for 250-300 watts of front stage to compete with your substage if your sub is really loud-
so to just go out and buy new mids may get a little louder but may still lack the output your looking for...buy hey
if you find a mid that smokes the PPI let us know



Yeah, I've been thinking of selling the Sundown and getting an AQ 4x90 and sending 240x2 to them at 4ohms. I'd be really worried about blowin a tweeter though.

I just wish that Sundown made something that did 200x2.

av8ter
12-17-2009, 01:31 PM
I am about to send 200 a side to mine with my 540 alpine bridged............

But yeah I def. was not impressed with my midbass at 90 watts a side......

kyleorsini
12-17-2009, 02:50 PM
mach 5 mids??

Ignatowski
12-17-2009, 05:10 PM
Yeah, I've been thinking of selling the Sundown and getting an AQ 4x90 and sending 240x2 to them at 4ohms. I'd be really worried about blowin a tweeter though.

I just wish that Sundown made something that did 200x2.

my diamond says 150w but its more like +15%
the other buddy is using a Xenon 200.2 which should be
dead on and I cant hear much difference-Id do the 240x2 and go low
on the gains - headroom baby!
Sundown should make a larger 2ch amp though,get on em

Xprime4
12-21-2009, 12:44 PM
I'll be trying some "id" oem 2.5 from hessdawg next summer. i don't think they'll high enough tho ....

lmk the result when you'll swap the mids