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cotjones
12-11-2009, 08:08 PM
Big RIP OFF!

hornedfrog1985
12-11-2009, 08:08 PM
k?

Supergumby5000
12-11-2009, 08:09 PM
huh?

edit: just realized the OP is cotjones.

guess that makes this thread an auto-fail


/thread

J31Rob
12-11-2009, 08:09 PM
troll.

Ekimdude
12-11-2009, 08:09 PM
Looks like someone cant afford a new led tv.

01tundraon6s
12-11-2009, 08:10 PM
And the guy who says this has a sony amp.

cotjones
12-11-2009, 08:11 PM
They are just LED back-lit LCD TV's with an additional 1000 bucks tacked on the price tag :fyi:

Skip01
12-11-2009, 08:11 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/gallery/3/3/4/0/8/jlcar.jpg

brmcm15
12-11-2009, 08:13 PM
huh?

edit: just realized the OP is cotjones.

guess that makes this thread an auto-fail


/thread

:laugh:

i like mine. everything looks purrty on it

cotjones
12-11-2009, 08:15 PM
And the guy who says this has a sony amp.

English, you're doing it wrong.

01tundraon6s
12-11-2009, 08:18 PM
**** english

bigbirney420
12-11-2009, 08:18 PM
Many reasons they are better. Lighter, thinner, use 50% less energy than LCD, also have higher hz processing to get rid of high def lag. Everything new becomes cheaper. My parents 60 inch Sony was like 4k 2 years ago, now they are 1800.

djeazie
12-11-2009, 08:19 PM
If you get the LED tv with a Italian computer chip it adds 175 pixels. Way better that way.

Supergumby5000
12-11-2009, 08:21 PM
Many reasons they are better. Lighter, thinner, use 50% less energy than LCD, also have higher hz processing to get rid of high def lag. Everything new becomes cheaper. My parents 60 inch Sony was like 4k 2 years ago, now they are 1800.

thank you

cotjones, do yourself a favor and read this, then disappear

fletch_1
12-11-2009, 08:24 PM
LED=Amazing

DBfan187
12-11-2009, 08:26 PM
They are just LED back-lit LCD TV's with an additional 1000 bucks tacked on the price tag :fyi:this is true, but not on all of them

bubbagumper6
12-11-2009, 08:27 PM
They are just LED back-lit LCD TV's with an additional 1000 bucks tacked on the price tag :fyi:

lol, so because you didn't understand how the technology works, that makes it crap?

cotjones
12-11-2009, 08:27 PM
Many reasons they are better. Lighter, thinner, use 50% less energy than LCD, also have higher hz processing to get rid of high def lag. Everything new becomes cheaper. My parents 60 inch Sony was like 4k 2 years ago, now they are 1800.

Idk where you heard this nonsense. There are cheaper LCD TV's that are lighter and thinner than the new LED TV's, and most LED TV's are less power efficient per screen size than LCD TV's unless you are watching a Movie with mostly Black images. LED's are actually similar to plasmas in power consumption. And there is no "higher hz processing" There is no differences in the processing capability of LCD vs. LED TV's the difference is in the blacklight

godhatescivics
12-11-2009, 08:30 PM
omg :popcorn:

jonny101abc
12-11-2009, 08:32 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/gallery/3/3/4/0/8/jlcar.jpg

LULZ

I haven't laughed that hard in a while

hornedfrog1985
12-11-2009, 08:33 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/gallery/3/3/4/0/8/jlcar.jpg

lol I remember that.

ngsm13
12-11-2009, 08:36 PM
No you don't...

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Iowa
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ciaonzo
12-11-2009, 08:39 PM
I can haz LED TV for teh cheaps. Lite Brite.

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DBfan187
12-11-2009, 08:43 PM
LOL looks like Jay Cutler

hornedfrog1985
12-11-2009, 08:47 PM
No you don't...

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Iowa
Posts: 5,230

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yes i do :fyi:

cotjones
12-11-2009, 08:57 PM
Ah I totally get it now, LED's are SWEET! :rolleyes:

32" LED TV 1299.99 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+32%22+Class+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+LED-LCD+HDTV/9299458.p?id=1218079342276&skuId=9299458)

46" LCD TV 1299.99 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+46%22+Class+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9293506.p?id=1218076081627&skuId=9293506)

HMMMM.....

here to buy
12-11-2009, 09:05 PM
I want a big OLED tv. Are they out yet? I saw a small 23 inch one on display a while back that was millimeters deep

cotjones
12-11-2009, 09:08 PM
Led is just a step towards the new. If it wasn't for plasmas and LCD coming out, t.v's would still be huge. Now led allows them to be smaller, soon technology will allow led's to be cheaper to replicate. Thus paving the way for a new innovation.

Well for a forum that tends to hate JL, i didn't expect the LED technology boner here.

It's simply a price point strategy, Make people believe the next generation of TV is out and get them to pay double what the product is worth.

The only LED technology that allows them to be slimmer than LCD TV's is when the Edge-lit method is used, and that sacrifices the benefits in contrast ratio and power consumption.

So in short you are paying double to make the TV about an inch and a half thinner. And LCD technology is still improving as it is.

bubbagumper6
12-11-2009, 09:12 PM
No you don't...

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Location: Iowa
Posts: 5,230

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hehehe, owned

RAM_Designs
12-11-2009, 09:14 PM
Obvious troll is obvious.

cotjones
12-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Obvious troll is obvious.

call it whatever you want, i'm only trying to save you all money and disappointment.

Don't believe me?

Show me an "LED" TV and I'll show you an LCD that performs better at a fraction of the cost.

gtbike900
12-11-2009, 09:17 PM
what a good one my girl what a led tv

bubbagumper6
12-11-2009, 09:20 PM
call it whatever you want, i'm only trying to save you all money and disappointment.

Don't believe me?

Show me an "LED" TV and I'll show you an LCD that performs better at a fraction of the cost.

Why do you come back to a forum that hates you?

cotjones
12-11-2009, 09:29 PM
Why do you come back to a forum that hates you?

I'm Jesus :fyi:

kappout
12-11-2009, 09:30 PM
Looks like someone cant afford a new led tv.

haha yuuuup

Savstyle
12-11-2009, 09:30 PM
i thought cotjones died like 3 yrs ago?

Why did he come back, everyone hates him

But his threads are funny

the727kid
12-11-2009, 09:33 PM
I want a big OLED tv. Are they out yet? I saw a small 23 inch one on display a while back that was millimeters deep

Should be out in the next few months.

cotjones
12-11-2009, 09:34 PM
i thought cotjones died like 3 yrs ago?

Why did he come back, everyone hates him

But his threads are funny

By your account every post I ever made on this forum was made after my death.

Savstyle
12-11-2009, 09:36 PM
By your account every post I ever made on this forum was made after my death.

guess it was just a delightful dream

sigh

cotjones
12-11-2009, 09:40 PM
guess it was just a delightful dream

sigh

You dreamed about me before you met me? who the Fvck are you? Dr. Manhattan?

hornedfrog1985
12-11-2009, 09:41 PM
You could have this same retarded argument about led dlps vs lcds.

cotjones
12-11-2009, 09:59 PM
You could have this same retarded argument about led dlps vs lcds.

? ok?

hornedfrog1985
12-11-2009, 10:03 PM
so we agree you're a ****ing retard then? Cool. Mods lock the thread please.

misfit138
12-11-2009, 10:11 PM
LOL looks like Jay Cutler

Still butt hurt I see. Maybe this will cheer you up.

http://img40.imagefra.me/img/img40/1/12/11/f_rpghmm_b370e0b.jpg (http://imagefra.me/)

bigbirney420
12-12-2009, 12:28 AM
Idk where you heard this nonsense. There are cheaper LCD TV's that are lighter and thinner than the new LED TV's, and most LED TV's are less power efficient per screen size than LCD TV's unless you are watching a Movie with mostly Black images. LED's are actually similar to plasmas in power consumption. And there is no "higher hz processing" There is no differences in the processing capability of LCD vs. LED TV's the difference is in the blacklight

Your an idiot, i used to sell them and was with Samsung. Its not just one thing, but you already proved that your stupid anyway. Most LCD's are only 60hz reproduction, 120hz at the most, and most LED start at 240kz. Plasmas may be just as efficient, but they also have burn in, have to be recharged, and are a dinosaurs. Thats why you can get a 50 inch for 800$

cotjones
12-12-2009, 12:51 AM
Your an idiot, i used to sell them and was with Samsung. Its not just one thing, but you already proved that your stupid anyway. Most LCD's are only 60hz reproduction, 120hz at the most, and most LED start at 240kz. Plasmas may be just as efficient, but they also have burn in, have to be recharged, and are a dinosaurs. Thats why you can get a 50 inch for 800$

Well my freind, i'm sorry, but times have changed since you worked with samsung.

there are plently of LCD's with a 240hz refresh rate, and most plasmas have that beat with a 600Hz refresh rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+BRAVIA+52%22+Class+/+1080p+/+240Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9279951.p?id=1218073534346&skuId=9279951

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+-+42%22+Class+/+1080p+/+240Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9317795.p?id=1218085598965&skuId=9317795 <- That one is 1300$ for a 46"

As i said before, show me an LED TV and i'll show it an LCD that performs just as well for much less

end of story, its that simple

bigbirney420
12-12-2009, 01:07 AM
No worries, judging by your setup you are Best Buy Employee, enough said. There are limited LCD's with 240hz refresh rate, and the ones that are, cost 2k plus so your argument is moot. If you want a Plasma, go ahead, you willl need a new one in 2 years, after burn in if you play any video games.

bigbirney420
12-12-2009, 01:08 AM
[QUOTE=cotjones;
As i said before, show me an LED TV and i'll show it an LCD that performs just as well for much less

end of story, its that simple[/QUOTE]

Your a virgin, that drives a high school girls car, end of story;)

cotjones
12-12-2009, 01:40 AM
No worries, judging by your setup you are Best Buy Employee, enough said. There are limited LCD's with 240hz refresh rate, and the ones that are, cost 2k plus so your argument is moot. If you want a Plasma, go ahead, you willl need a new one in 2 years, after burn in if you play any video games.


Your a virgin, that drives a high school girls car, end of story;)

I don't really understand why you are insulting me, i guess just to avoid my challenge, "SHOW ME AN LED TV AND I'LL SHOW YOU AND LCD THAT'S JUST AS GOOD FOR MUCH LESS."

And highschool girls don't drive 270+ HP $30,000 cars. ty

bigbirney420
12-12-2009, 01:45 AM
I don't really understand why you are insulting me, i guess just to avoid my challenge, "SHOW ME AN LED TV AND I'LL SHOW YOU AND LCD THAT'S JUST AS GOOD FOR MUCH LESS."

And highschool girls don't drive 270+ HP $30,000 cars. ty

Waste of money, i have 320HP an 15k car that makes Eclipse like Ford Fusion

cotjones
12-12-2009, 01:47 AM
Waste of money, i have 320HP an 15k car that makes Eclipse like Ford Fusion

BAHAHA i see your just mad because my "GIRL CAR" has more balls than your POS PONTIAC

Digital Designs
12-12-2009, 01:55 AM
BAHAHA i see your just mad because my "GIRL CAR" has more balls than your POS PONTIAC

Ok, well first of all, its an eclipse. Please dont try to talk it up like its anything more. It isnt, it is a slow chick car. Get over it. And not everything can start out better than everything else that has been out much longer(LED vs LCD) One main example of this is LCD vs CRT. When LCD monitors first came out, they were expensive as shiit and didnt have great specs. Nowadays, Other than the CRT nuthuggers/people that cant afford LCD(Very few), EVERYONE owns an LCD monitor. LED is just getting started. I am sure in a few years, all TV companies will be mostly into LED, and getting rid of LCDs. LEDs have potential of being a much better option, since soon they will be as cheap, and will look much better.

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 01:56 AM
You both sound retarded honestly.

cotjones
12-12-2009, 02:02 AM
Ok, well first of all, its an eclipse. Please dont try to talk it up like its anything more. It isnt, it is a slow chick car. Get over it. And not everything can start out better than everything else that has been out much longer(LED vs LCD) One main example of this is LCD vs CRT. When LCD monitors first came out, they were expensive as shiit and didnt have great specs. Nowadays, Other than the CRT nuthuggers/people that cant afford LCD(Very few), EVERYONE owns an LCD monitor. LED is just getting started. I am sure in a few years, all TV companies will be mostly into LED, and getting rid of LCDs. LEDs have potential of being much more efficient and a much better option.

I don't know why i'd want it to be faster, it's pretty quick, but i wasn't the one who brought up the cars, he was, so blame him, i didn't say **** about either of our cars but he in all his profound maturity decided to take it there when i was having a perfectly logical conversation about TV's. And no this is nothing like the jump from CRT to LCD. Thats what the marketer's are wanting you to think. Like I said, an LED TV is simply an LCD TV with an LED BACKLIGHT instead of fluorescent. There is absolutely NO OTHER DIFFERENCE!!!!!! ONLY THE BACKLIGHT IS DIFFERENT!!! I CAN'T SAY IT ANY PLAINER.

Digital Designs
12-12-2009, 02:07 AM
I don't know why i'd want it to be faster, it's pretty quick, but i wasn't the one who brought up the cars, he was, so blame him, i didn't say **** about either of our cars but he in all his profound maturity decided to take it there when i was having a perfectly logical conversation about TV's. And no this is nothing like the jump from CRT to LCD. Thats what the marketer's are wanting you to think. Like I said, an LED TV is simply an LCD TV with an LED BACKLIGHT instead of fluorescent. There is absolutely NO OTHER DIFFERENCE!!!!!! ONLY THE BACKLIGHT IS DIFFERENT!!! I CAN'T SAY IT ANY PLAINER.

Ok, so you are saying there is no other difference? What about the difference in contrast and deepness? What about the much better viewing angle from the LED backlit TVs? These are just some of the pros of LED vs fluorescent backlighting. LEDs will soon be as cheap as normal LCD tvs. If not, they will be a complete flop and die out quickly(like HD-DVDs). Unless a better form of backlighting LCD tvs or an amazing form of plasma tvs comes out, they will NOT flop. Right now, LED TVs are more geared towards video enthusiasts, not the everyday person. Soon they will be much more affordable, and I am sure they will be much more successful.

Also, you said your eclipse has more balls than his GTP. LMFAO, his GTP in basically stock form would easily keep up with your POS car. I have a 4k pound automatic V6 Thunderbird that I would put money on eating up your Eclipse.

ciaonzo
12-12-2009, 02:11 AM
http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/7/e/7e088-Retard_Girl_I_can_count_to_potato30.jpg

DBfan187
12-12-2009, 11:05 AM
Your an idiot, i used to sell them and was with Samsung. Its not just one thing, but you already proved that your stupid anyway. Most LCD's are only 60hz reproduction, 120hz at the most, and most LED start at 240kz. Plasmas may be just as efficient, but they also have burn in, have to be recharged, and are a dinosaurs. Thats why you can get a 50 inch for 800$
LOL you can't 'recharge' plasmas.

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 11:09 AM
funniest thread ever. Bunch of people who don't know wtf they are talking about. I love hearing people talk about plasmas like this is the year 2002.

cotjones
12-12-2009, 11:13 AM
Ok, so you are saying there is no other difference? What about the difference in contrast and deepness? What about the much better viewing angle from the LED backlit TVs? These are just some of the pros of LED vs fluorescent backlighting. LEDs will soon be as cheap as normal LCD tvs. If not, they will be a complete flop and die out quickly(like HD-DVDs). Unless a better form of backlighting LCD tvs or an amazing form of plasma tvs comes out, they will NOT flop. Right now, LED TVs are more geared towards video enthusiasts, not the everyday person. Soon they will be much more affordable, and I am sure they will be much more successful.

Also, you said your eclipse has more balls than his GTP. LMFAO, his GTP in basically stock form would easily keep up with your POS car. I have a 4k pound automatic V6 Thunderbird that I would put money on eating up your Eclipse.

:fyi: The difference in contrast is only when an evenly distributed method of backlighting called (RGB dynamic Backlighting) is employed as apposed to the edge-lit method (which it what allows for the ultra thin screen.) This method is actually in most cases much thicker and much more power consuming than conventional LCD's.

It delivers higher contrast because the entire screen is not lit by the same backlight, but hundreds of backlights which are comprised of RGB backlights Allowing the TV to locally control the backlight level and hue. However this method *****. Because each of the LED backlights are still responsible for lighting a fairly large portion of the screen, meaning that the color saturations tend to "Bleed" across the screen into areas not meant to dim or change backlight hue. as you approach acceptable distribution of LED Backlights you are going around you're elbo to get to ur arse. And are wasting your lime backlighting with LED's when you are getting close to LED PIXEL technology like the TV at timesquare.

And as far as cars, you'er stupid. GTFO. My 6G7 would crush your and his cars. He's got an Ancient supercharged Buick V6 engine that runs like balls, And you're most likely running the essex which is basically the same thing except backward and not supercharged LMAO ->American V6 efficiency FTL And don't get me started on transmissions. With an american Car, get yourself a V8 and then maybe we can talk. Although My best friend's automatic GT Mustang can just barely keep up.... and on a curvy road, he's toast.

cotjones
12-12-2009, 11:15 AM
LOL you can't 'recharge' plasmas.

LMAO


funniest thread ever. Bunch of people who don't know wtf they are talking about. I love hearing people talk about plasmas like this is the year 2002.

LOL well plasma TV technology is not quite at a dead end yet either. There is still not much that can compete with the refresh rate and some of the highest contrasty ratios available.

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 11:20 AM
You can't compare the refresh rates because they aren't measured the same. I know the plasma is faster, but 600hz on an plasma, is not the same as 600hz on a lcd.

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 11:22 AM
lol

cotjones
12-12-2009, 11:45 AM
You can't compare the refresh rates because they aren't measured the same. I know the plasma is faster, but 600hz on an plasma, is not the same as 600hz on a lcd.

BAHAHAHA this reminds me of one of the first posts I ever made about how "JL watts are more normal watts"

Refresh rate is refresh rate. Sorry, but thats the bottom line. I suppose that you also believe the PS3 can be turned into a spaceship guidance system!! :nerd:

cotjones
12-12-2009, 12:02 PM
I find it funny how people who have no idea what they are talking about worship this money making scheme when its obvious that the technology is at best marginally beneficial. I know quite a bit about this, it's kinda my job. And I've written 3D software and had to know a little bit more than a little bit about refresh rates and frame rates. Trust me, It's like paying double to fly in a dirigible instead of an airplane. Just because it's novel and new, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 12:06 PM
I hope to god you are just a troll, and you're really not this stupid.

cotjones
12-12-2009, 01:19 PM
I hope to god you are just a troll, and you're really not this stupid.

Care to give your miraculous knowledge on how 600hz on a plasma is not the same as 600 hz on an LCD?

let me save you the trouble, it isn't If your referring to the subfield motion filters only downscaling a 60, 120, 240, or any Hz signal you are wrong. Plasma TV's do indeed have the capability to refresh at a 600hz rate. And i use that ability often. Granted in most applications, like I said it is only a 60 hz refresh rate broken into 8, 10, or 12 sub-fields. Additionally, with plasma TV's A 6Ohz refresh rate is sufficient compared to a 240 hz LCD because the human eye cannot discern the difference between the motion of a 60hz refresh rate and 240 refresh rate except when the lower refresh rate produces artifacts (like LCD's do) Plasmas don't have this problem due to the different method in which the pixels are fired.

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 01:20 PM
lol god you're gay.

cotjones
12-12-2009, 01:28 PM
lol god you're gay.

My sexuality isn't the issue, but I don't expect you to discuss the actual issue. Why would you, when most people are dumb enough to except that your insults are a substitute for substantial information and knowledge in arguing validity?

Scoobydoo
12-12-2009, 02:44 PM
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2704/redcameltoe.jpg

DBfan187
12-12-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm gay for that.

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 02:51 PM
lol, don't think I'm supposed to see that at work.

DBfan187
12-12-2009, 03:01 PM
I'm not either but I do it anyway.

Scoobydoo
12-12-2009, 03:03 PM
this thread *****, i was browsing and even saw something about "plasma burn in" wtf, someone throw that guy a clue

i will only say this, may have already been said, but i dont care...

the 20-30%+ power savings an lcd has over a plasma will certainly pay for the extra up front cost over the life of the tv

its kinda like a payment plan, pay $xxx less now, but repay the difference of $xx every month for the next few years until you are even, then after that just start paying interest on an old tv

until plasma can figure out a way to reduce power usage lcd is still a better option long term

DBfan187
12-12-2009, 03:04 PM
http://www.kraproom.com/pacman/aod/gallery/d/8776-1/SuperCoolStoryBro.png

Scoobydoo
12-12-2009, 03:18 PM
you buy two cars for the same price, lets say a honda(lcd) and a bmw(plasma)

the honda cost $25k and the BMW cost $20k, but the BMW blue booked the same price, yay you got a great deal on the BMW and saved money, good for you

now drive them around for a few years.

after paying maintenence, repairs, gas and taking the hit on depreciation the BMW will end up costing you more in the long run

thats my cool story, **** i'm bored, time to go drink

DBfan187
12-12-2009, 03:20 PM
can I come?

RAM_Designs
12-12-2009, 03:32 PM
People buy the LED's because they look better....that's it. The picture is simply better looking than any LCD I have seen. There doesn't have to be any kind of revolutionary technology being used, if it looks noticably better(which it does) then people will pay more money for it. I prefer a plasma anyways. 600hz refresh rate, great contrast ratio, great blacks, and cheaper. I can get a 50" 1080p plasma for under $1k, just can't beat that IMO.

schackel
12-12-2009, 03:36 PM
la la land was cool when i was 12

cotjones
12-12-2009, 03:55 PM
this thread *****, i was browsing and even saw something about "plasma burn in" wtf, someone throw that guy a clue

i will only say this, may have already been said, but i dont care...

the 20-30%+ power savings an lcd has over a plasma will certainly pay for the extra up front cost over the life of the tv

its kinda like a payment plan, pay $xxx less now, but repay the difference of $xx every month for the next few years until you are even, then after that just start paying interest on an old tv

until plasma can figure out a way to reduce power usage lcd is still a better option long term
Hey genius, heres a clue. We are talking about LED Backlit TVs vs. CCFL backlit LCD's

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 03:58 PM
lol

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 03:59 PM
ya genius

cotjones
12-12-2009, 04:07 PM
People buy the LED's because they look better....that's it. The picture is simply better looking than any LCD I have seen. There doesn't have to be any kind of revolutionary technology being used, if it looks noticably better(which it does) then people will pay more money for it. I prefer a plasma anyways. 600hz refresh rate, great contrast ratio, great blacks, and cheaper. I can get a 50" 1080p plasma for under $1k, just can't beat that IMO.

If I made 2 TV's that used LCD technology, Had a refresh rate of 250 Hz, A dynamic contrast ratio of 1:2,000,000, Had a resolution of 1080p.
But slapped one in a cheap grey plastic case with a westinghouse sticker on the side, And put the other would in a shiny black and glass case and slapped a name on it like The samsung Brilliance edition and told you that it was a cold fusion pixel based technology. And had a sub field polarizing diffusion modulator.

I guarantee you most people would think it looked better.

Let me let you in on another clue. Next time you are at the store looking at TV's Check the TV's picture setting. No one can really judge the quality of an HD TV standing alone, you make judgments on tvs as a comparison of those around it, well the best buy near my house puts the brightness and contrast very high on their new "LED TVS" and makes the other less expensive tvs look darker. The general population equates a bright picture to better quality.

Just as in car audio, The common person would say a louder car is better quality.

I promise you LED-Backlit technology is a waste! WAIT for LED PIXELS! or OLED. MUCH! MUCH MUCH! BeTTER!!!

DBfan187
12-12-2009, 04:15 PM
if you include a flux-capacitor I'll buy 10 right now!

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 04:20 PM
yeah dem der flux crapasitors make it so ye dun even gotta look at er bufor yas bi it.

cotjones
12-12-2009, 06:34 PM
if you include a flux-capacitor I'll buy 10 right now!

exactly

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 06:36 PM
who?

cotjones
12-12-2009, 08:24 PM
who?

Mike Jones

bigbirney420
12-12-2009, 09:17 PM
Is this thread still going? Next your gonna tell us that your TV has a special chip in that makes it better than any other TV. Just like the one in your old Dodge pickup.

Twistid
12-12-2009, 10:19 PM
lol this guy is still around? No one cares about your 175hp Italian LCD tv, if you didn't get the hint after your ban maybe you should think about how every post you make someone is quick to reply "STFU GTFO"...

You're that annoying guy at the club that everyone tries to avoid yet he doesn't seem to quite get the hint :fyi:

bubbagumper6
12-12-2009, 10:25 PM
With all the stupid reasons for people getting banned around here, I can't believe he hasn't been perma-banned yet, lol

hornedfrog1985
12-12-2009, 10:30 PM
lol this guy is still around? No one cares about your 175hp Italian LCD tv, if you didn't get the hint after your ban maybe you should think about how every post you make someone is quick to reply "STFU GTFO"...

You're that annoying guy at the club that everyone tries to avoid yet he doesn't seem to quite get the hint :fyi:

I was going to tell him something simmilar, but "that" guy doesn't normally get the point.

RAM_Designs
12-12-2009, 10:34 PM
If I made 2 TV's that used LCD technology, Had a refresh rate of 250 Hz, A dynamic contrast ratio of 1:2,000,000, Had a resolution of 1080p.
But slapped one in a cheap grey plastic case with a westinghouse sticker on the side, And put the other would in a shiny black and glass case and slapped a name on it like The samsung Brilliance edition and told you that it was a cold fusion pixel based technology. And had a sub field polarizing diffusion modulator.

I guarantee you most people would think it looked better.

Let me let you in on another clue. Next time you are at the store looking at TV's Check the TV's picture setting. No one can really judge the quality of an HD TV standing alone, you make judgments on tvs as a comparison of those around it, well the best buy near my house puts the brightness and contrast very high on their new "LED TVS" and makes the other less expensive tvs look darker. The general population equates a bright picture to better quality.

Just as in car audio, The common person would say a louder car is better quality.

I promise you LED-Backlit technology is a waste! WAIT for LED PIXELS! or OLED. MUCH! MUCH MUCH! BeTTER!!!
I'm not talking about physical appearance, so the furst argument you made means nothing since I'm not arguing anything that has to do with the presentation of the TV itself.

Now, what you said about stores making the LED's look better...I have seen MANY nice LCD tv's, in person, not in a big box store that can alter picture levels. My dad bought the top of the line Samsung 1080p 120hz lcd a year and a half ago...it looked amazing, still does. I have a few friends with new LCD's that costs a pretty penny, so I know what a nice LCD looks like(not to mention I go to Fry's every once in a while to window shop, and I did this before LED's were even out). I have never, EVER seen a LCD look like the LED tv's I was checking out the other day. The detail, insane colors, sharpness, etc made it look crazy(in a good way).

nastyaudioman
12-12-2009, 10:35 PM
Each chamber is sealed in a Plasma TV, so no you can not "recharge" it. They are better than they use to be now days though, they can last up to 30,000 hours+.

RAM_Designs
12-12-2009, 10:39 PM
Each chamber is sealed in a Plasma TV, so no you can not "recharge" it. They are better than they use to be now days though, they can last up to 30,000 hours+.

Even at 10 hours a day, which is a lot, that's still over 8 years....who even keeps a TV that long nowadays?

nastyaudioman
12-12-2009, 10:39 PM
Even at 10 hours a day, which is a lot, that's still over 8 years....who even keeps a TV that long nowadays?

I know right, always something better out every 3 years or so :p

cotjones
12-13-2009, 05:10 PM
I'm not talking about physical appearance, so the furst argument you made means nothing since I'm not arguing anything that has to do with the presentation of the TV itself.

Now, what you said about stores making the LED's look better...I have seen MANY nice LCD tv's, in person, not in a big box store that can alter picture levels. My dad bought the top of the line Samsung 1080p 120hz lcd a year and a half ago...it looked amazing, still does. I have a few friends with new LCD's that costs a pretty penny, so I know what a nice LCD looks like(not to mention I go to Fry's every once in a while to window shop, and I did this before LED's were even out). I have never, EVER seen a LCD look like the LED tv's I was checking out the other day. The detail, insane colors, sharpness, etc made it look crazy(in a good way).

Even so now you're just saying that they are better because you think they look better.

There are plenty of people who would not say that. There are scientific reasons to say they are not. In my opinion the absolute best picture i've ever seen on a TV is from a Panasonic Plasma TV. A samsung local dimming LED-backlight TV does have very close to the same picture quality. But as I said, marginally, plus there are tradeoffs such as "bleed dimming" and higher power consuption, and the biggest factor is that the LED starts around 4k, the plasma ENDS around 2k. I'm not saying that the picture isn't fantastic on an LED TV, It obviously is. What i am saying is that the picture quality is NO different than the highest quality LCD CCFL's for half the price. contrast can be a benefit and a little better color saturation. IMHO not a big enough difference to pay an extra 2 grand. It is not a new technology, or new class of TV's. It's the same old LCD screen with a fancy new lightbulb in the back.

LED's have just never been cost effective on large scale applications. Thats why we've had the technology for LED Light bulbs for years but no one buys them when a fluorencent lasts almost just as long for 4 bucks and the LED bulbs run around 40!

The future of TV is OLED technology. Buying the LED-Backlit tv today is like buying an HD-DVD player five years ago. Sure its a new thing with benefits. but why invest money in a technology that already been beaten from inception and is on it's way out the door. :confused:

FurbiesAndBeans
12-13-2009, 05:21 PM
Even so now you're just saying that they are better because you think they look better.

There are plenty of people who would not say that. There are scientific reasons to say they are not. In my opinion the absolute best picture i've ever seen on a TV is from a Panasonic Plasma TV. A samsung local dimming LED-backlight TV does have very close to the same picture quality. But as I said, marginally, plus there are tradeoffs such as "bleed dimming" and higher power consuption, and the biggest factor is that the LED starts around 4k, the plasma ENDS around 2k. I'm not saying that the picture isn't fantastic on an LED TV, It obviously is. What i am saying is that the picture quality is NO different than the highest quality LCD CCFL's for half the price. contrast can be a benefit and a little better color saturation. IMHO not a big enough difference to pay an extra 2 grand. It is not a new technology, or new class of TV's. It's the same old LCD screen with a fancy new lightbulb in the back.

LED's have just never been cost effective on large scale applications. Thats why we've had the technology for LED Light bulbs for years but no one buys them when a fluorencent lasts almost just as long for 4 bucks and the LED bulbs run around 40!

The future of TV is OLED technology. Buying the LED-Backlit tv today is like buying an HD-DVD player five years ago. Sure its a new thing with benefits. but why invest money in a technology that already been beaten from inception and is on it's way out the door. :confused:

so basically u just owned urself? u've been saying through out the thread that LEDs dont have better quality, but u just said that they are amongst the best ones u've seen....

And yes, things will be expensive once they first come out, but they'll eventually get cheaper.

kthxbye

TurdFergueson2
12-13-2009, 05:29 PM
Well my freind, i'm sorry, but times have changed since you worked with samsung.

there are plently of LCD's with a 240hz refresh rate, and most plasmas have that beat with a 600Hz refresh rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+BRAVIA+52%22+Class+/+1080p+/+240Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9279951.p?id=1218073534346&skuId=9279951

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+-+42%22+Class+/+1080p+/+240Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9317795.p?id=1218085598965&skuId=9317795 <- That one is 1300$ for a 46"

As i said before, show me an LED TV and i'll show it an LCD that performs just as well for much less

end of story, its that simple

You really are an annoying little ****. Best buy prices are just plain higher. Stay the *** out of Best buy.

Get what you can afford and STFU

RAM_Designs
12-13-2009, 06:32 PM
I'd rather buy a nice 1080p plasma anways.

gtbike900
12-13-2009, 06:46 PM
heres what it comes down to you want a lambo you buy a lambo ya you can put 20 grand into a toyota supra and own a lambo but you want what you want so if you cant afford it then buy something cheaper

cotjones
12-13-2009, 06:58 PM
so basically u just owned urself? u've been saying through out the thread that LEDs dont have better quality, but u just said that they are amongst the best ones u've seen....

And yes, things will be expensive once they first come out, but they'll eventually get cheaper.

kthxbye

No quite hunny, pay attention this time.

The image processing is the same on a CCFL LCD and and LED LCD The CONTRAST however can be marginally better on "LOCAL DIMMING" LED's which easily cost double the same model CCFL. However, The contrast is virtually the same on the more popular "EDGE-LIT LED'S"

So like I Said, if you would like to waste your money on a product that is allready outdated and not that much of an improvement be my guest. If thats so you are either an idiot or you have money to throw away. In either case STFU!

Kthxbye.

hzsogood
12-13-2009, 08:25 PM
Many reasons they are better. Lighter, thinner, use 50% less energy than LCD, also have higher hz processing to get rid of high def lag. Everything new becomes cheaper. My parents 60 inch Sony was like 4k 2 years ago, now they are 1800.


none of the things you mentioned matter.. And the fact that you said "hz processing" proves you know nothing, other than what you read on the sales sticker :rolleyes:.. What makes LEDs more expensive is a Backlit LED instead of a side lit, and a higher contrast ratio.. Those 2 things alone are NOT worth the difference to me when comparing a calibrated samsung ln52b750 ( lcd ) to a sammy ln55b7000 ( led )

Have both, fully calibrated ( by me, not some BB garbage calibration ) and the LED is nicer, but its not worth an extra $800 imo.. Physical appearance is better o n the new ones as well.. Never though my 1 year old lcd thats 3" thick would be considered " bulky"


But when watching a BLu ray, I really cant tell much of a dif.... just my $.02

cotjones
12-13-2009, 08:30 PM
none of the things you mentioned matter.. And the fact that you said "hz processing" proves you know nothing, other than what you read on the sales sticker :rolleyes:.. What makes LEDs more expensive is a Backlit LED instead of a side lit, and a higher contrast ratio.. Those 2 things alone are NOT worth the difference to me when comparing a calibrated samsung ln52b750 ( lcd ) to a sammy ln55b7000 ( led )

Have both, fully calibrated ( by me, not some BB garbage calibration ) and the LED is nicer, but its not worth an extra $800 imo.. Physical appearance is better o n the new ones as well.. Never though my 1 year old lcd thats 3" thick would be considered " bulky"


But when watching a BLu ray, I really cant tell much of a dif.... just my $.02

Bassically my point exactly...

Akula Class
12-17-2009, 12:10 AM
Each chamber is sealed in a Plasma TV, so no you can not "recharge" it. They are better than they use to be now days though, they can last up to 30,000 hours+.

Truth. And many Plasma's state 60,000 hours.

I'll take a Pioneer Kuro Signature any day!!!!