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gtbike900
12-05-2009, 07:34 PM
so my sundown nightshade 18s and saz4500s should be here some time next week and im getting ready to start my box im thinking burch with double baffle and double port wall the rest single layer with 8 peaces dowl rod 4 top to bottom 2 side to side 2 front to back and 4x4 cut in half to round out the corners so six rounded corners all sides and the back then about a gallon or so resin 4 6 inch aeros tuned to 27 htz to start 19.5 cubes to start about 16 after displacement car freq is 37 htz any thoughts i will have pics of old build up soon

Millertime1028
12-05-2009, 07:35 PM
You'll be pretty low on port area.

gtbike900
12-05-2009, 07:39 PM
i have 56 inches now with 4 15s doing 152.8 at 37 on 3600 watts

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 07:40 PM
sounds like a small box to me!

i have four 18s in 26cubes tuned to 27hz, 30cubes with ports and im hitting a 155.2 legal at 43hz

Millertime1028
12-05-2009, 07:41 PM
lol

gtbike900
12-05-2009, 07:42 PM
and the lower you tune the less port area you need and using aeros means less port as well i have a very large truck so it need lower port area to get loud

gtbike900
12-05-2009, 07:42 PM
nightshades shine in about 4 cubes ask jacob

Millertime1028
12-05-2009, 07:43 PM
and the lower you tune the less port area you need and using aeros means less port as well i have a very large truck so it need lower port area to get loud
Some of your fact's are a little mixed up there bud.

gtbike900
12-05-2009, 07:44 PM
but if it dont work i build a new box for what 150 bucks

Millertime1028
12-05-2009, 07:45 PM
trueness :wow::crazy:

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 07:46 PM
nightshades shine in about 4 cubes ask jacob

18s need space to breath. i dont believe in that small box crap unless your burping for spl.

S.B.C.
12-05-2009, 07:46 PM
and the lower you tune the less port area you need and using aeros means less port as well i have a very large truck so it need lower port area to get loud

Wow

thats wrong

Anyway, thats a small box for 18's- any 18

Supergumby5000
12-05-2009, 07:47 PM
so my sundown nightshade 18s and saz4500s should be here some time next week and im getting ready to start my box .im thinking burch with double baffle and double port wall. .......

i would have fixed the rest, but it was so bad you cant even make sentences out of it

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 07:49 PM
your gonna need to spend more than 150 on a box my friend... you should be double walling everything even tripple layer walls with 3/4 mdf, or use 1in mdf.

and i wouldnt even waste your time on those aero ports unless your building a box for burping ( my opinion)

just build it with a big azz slot port. its easier to tune and makes the box more sturdy. and looks a hell of alot more impressive

check out my hyperlinks below. it shows my box and all the steps...

Cabin_Pressure
12-05-2009, 07:51 PM
Hey OP. this is the BUILD LOG section. Not the "Hey i'm gonna do blah blah blah........." section. I see no pics of this "build", so WTF?

S.B.C.
12-05-2009, 07:53 PM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g56/suicidaltom/amputee_toilet.jpg

gtbike900
12-05-2009, 07:55 PM
if it dont work i will rebuild the box bigger with more port area small boxes and low port area have worked so far in my truck like i said boxes are cheap i have a commercal account with home depot i will just get it when i buy materals for work

Millertime1028
12-05-2009, 07:55 PM
Rio, the **** is that lol

S.B.C.
12-05-2009, 07:56 PM
Rio, the **** is that lol

Dont act like you've never seen any :D

gtbike900
12-05-2009, 08:03 PM
i will have my old build pics up tomorrow its dark out and cameras taking sh1tty pics

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 08:07 PM
just build the box big the first time and you wont be dissapointed. check my build log out i have 4 18s.

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 08:08 PM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g56/suicidaltom/amputee_toilet.jpg

toilet amputee ****... =lol

godhatescivics
12-05-2009, 08:09 PM
i got pics and videos of it im uploading now

S.B.C.
12-05-2009, 08:10 PM
i got pics and videos of it im uploading now

Of toilet amputee ****?

Your the man!!

Millertime1028
12-05-2009, 08:11 PM
Thaswhaimatawkinbout !

godhatescivics
12-05-2009, 08:18 PM
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/SDC10448.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/0926091706.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/th_SDC10447.jpg (http://s377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/?action=view&current=SDC10447.flv)
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/th_SDC10449.jpg (http://s377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/?action=view&current=SDC10449.flv)

sundownz
12-05-2009, 08:19 PM
NS 18s do work quite well in 4 cubes - low tuned as well.

godhatescivics
12-05-2009, 08:19 PM
and this tard and his backpack
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/th_SDC10450.jpg (http://s377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/?action=view&current=SDC10450.flv)

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 08:27 PM
you need a different box design... that one isnt gonna work. loose the aero ports. and go for a slot port...

godhatescivics
12-05-2009, 08:32 PM
box will be fine

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 08:38 PM
NS 18s do work quite well in 4 cubes - low tuned as well.

you are correct :)

gtbike900
12-05-2009, 08:40 PM
im picking up 8 kinetik 16v as in a hour

DBDRAGGUY
12-05-2009, 08:43 PM
you need a different box design... that one isnt gonna work. loose the aero ports. and go for a slot port...

A port is a port is a port. Flared ports are more effecient and will work just fine.

A large slot port will work as well but you wont have the versatility of being able to retune the box without rebuilding.

You would be suprised how much air a single 6" aero can move.

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 08:44 PM
box will be fine

nope... not for 4 18s...

his box is gonna crack at the seems... and those aero ports are for spl.....

he's tuning to 27 hz... thats not a spl tuning frequency

good luck and im glad you have time to waste on building boxes...

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 08:46 PM
box should be fine, but i might would add one or two more 6" just to be on safe side ;)

S.B.C.
12-05-2009, 08:47 PM
20 6" aeros ftw

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 08:50 PM
20 6" aeros ftw

your a fool... lol

S.B.C.
12-05-2009, 08:51 PM
your a fool... lol

26 6" aeros ftw?

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 08:51 PM
box should be fine, but i might would add one or two more 6" just to be on safe side ;)

you better plan on doubling up every wall you have on that box because your gonna hit a speed bump and the sides will blow out....

and you wont know why your **** sounds like **** afterwards either

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 08:53 PM
nope... not for 4 18s...

his box is gonna crack at the seems... and those aero ports are for spl.....

he's tuning to 27 hz... thats not a spl tuning frequency

good luck and im glad you have time to waste on building boxes...



who are you? have you ever messed with a nightshade 18 before? i think not

and btw as long as his box is well built he should be fine...

my last box was for 2 18's 4 cubes each. peak at 43hz... for burps i had 4 sundown 3500Ds a .25 each amp and the box held together just fine...the box was single layered and the sub/port baffle was double layered and thats it...

oh and playing money man(38 and 34hz i think) on two american bass 500.1's did just fine....

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 09:00 PM
who are you? have you ever messed with a nightshade 18 before? i think not

and btw as long as his box is well built he should be fine...

my last box was for 2 18's 4 cubes each. peak at 43hz... for burps i had 4 sundown 3500Ds a .25 each amp and the box held together just fine...the box was single layered and the sub/port baffle was double layered and thats it...

oh and playing money man(38 and 34hz i think) on two american bass 500.1's did just fine....

and once again!!!

HERES YOUR SIGN


I see you one of those mindless puppets that think because you built one box for 2 18s that you somehow have an idea what it takes to build a box that holds four of em...You have a long way to go if you thing a 3/4 in wall in a box holding 4 18s is gonna hold.

i'm trying to save this guy a big headache... and your popping in with stupididy, and its yours to boot...

and to your question of "who are you" i'm batman....

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 09:05 PM
all hail sub2wrecker, he knows everything! lmfao


and yeh i have no idea what it takes to build a box...


FYI a proper internaly braced box is FAR superior to a box with no internal braces that is multilayered...

godhatescivics
12-05-2009, 09:06 PM
and once again!!!

HERES YOUR SIGN


I see you one of those mindless puppets that think because you built one box for 2 18s that you somehow have an idea what it takes to build a box that holds four of em...You have a long way to go if you thing a 3/4 in wall in a box holding 4 18s is gonna hold.

i'm trying to save this guy a big headache... and your popping in with stupididy, and its yours to boot...

and to your question of "who are you" i'm batman....

YOU MAKE ME LAUGH WITH YOUR STUPIDITY

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 09:08 PM
YOU MAKE ME LAUGH WITH YOUR STUPIDITY

:nod:

MakeshiftAudio
12-05-2009, 09:13 PM
:nod:
Yep.

Listening to this guy(sub2weeker) is seriously getting old. Someone should fix that.

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 09:14 PM
YOU MAKE ME LAUGH WITH YOUR STUPIDITY

when your as loud as me or and have 4 18s, then you can hand out some advise...till then you have no clue

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 09:22 PM
when your as loud as me or and have 4 18s, then you can hand out some advise...till then you have no clue

arent you the one that said it takes sum on godly amount of power (like 15,000 20,000 watts RMS to power a 21" IA DP?

Walled_Taurus
12-05-2009, 09:22 PM
when your as loud as me or and have 4 18s, then you can hand out some advise...till then you have no clue

Your a cocky mother fuvker arn't you. Your advice is only an opinion on here, its not txt book info on how to build the proper box.

There not gonna listen to you so stop trying to get them to.

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 09:25 PM
when your as loud as me or and have 4 18s, then you can hand out some advise...till then you have no clue

your loud? thats funny, because i have no idea who you are :wow:

MakeshiftAudio
12-05-2009, 09:27 PM
when your as loud as me or and have 4 18s, then you can hand out some advise...till then you have no clue

You could do a lot more with the 4 18s if you knew what you were doing. With 4 18s, you could just apply a lot of power in a fairly crappy box and get a 155 honestly. Then you've got a brute forcing method, where you just keep trying.

Having maximum dBzzz is not a scale of measurement for ability to give advice.

Have you ever done any stress tests? Analyzed force vectors from the pressure, then comparing them to the Young's modulus of the material in question to find the strain on the material under this pressure(in reality should be the force exerted on the surface from this pressure)? Ever ran a FEA for a box?

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 09:29 PM
sub2weeker

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425954


you have come along way since your post 4 months ago. back then you didnt even know the proper porting for a box.... my favorite post was thats a sweet *** box, how do you determine tuning?

and now your a expert box builder congrats!




edit: lmfao you do 155's with 4 18's? i do more than that with two :D

RidnClean
12-05-2009, 09:31 PM
since when has aeroports been SPL only?

MakeshiftAudio
12-05-2009, 09:31 PM
sub2wrecker

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425954


you have come along way since your post 4 months ago. back then you didnt even know the proper porting for a box.... my favorite post was thats a sweet *** box, how do you determine tuning?

and now your a expert box builder congrats!



lmfao you do 155's with 4 18's? i do more than that with two :D
Only difference now is that he has equipment, and has power to it. Whoo, and now he's god.

MakeshiftAudio
12-05-2009, 09:35 PM
since when has aeroports been SPL only?

Now. Since god is on the internet.

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 09:37 PM
awaiting patiently for you to try and serve me with a "pwning" but i await to reject it

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 09:38 PM
Now. Since god is on the internet.

so he is the one that gave my truck the sunroof? according to the people in my sig :D

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 09:39 PM
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hello :wave:

MakeshiftAudio
12-05-2009, 09:41 PM
so he is the one that gave my truck the sunroof? according to the people in my sig :D
Haha, he gave me my sunroof too. Too bad it's about to get replaced with 1" thick lexan, or a steel plate. :)

DNick454
12-05-2009, 09:46 PM
awaiting patiently for you to try and serve me with a "pwning" but i await to reject it

You should see his post he made in a thread a ways back claiming that sound waves don't reflect off of objects and that you can tell exactly where bass tones originate from.

TnT_Sounds
12-05-2009, 11:27 PM
when your as loud as me or and have 4 18s, then you can hand out some advise...till then you have no clue

Why am I not surprised :rolleyes:

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 11:41 PM
once again i have a bunch of punks thinking they know me....

this was a build log, and advise was given, then some punk kids came along and decided to say "no... its ok to build a box with 3/4 in and only a double baffle for (4 18's)

the post i made 4 months ago was to prove someone wrong on my port dimensions, which came out exactly as i planned...

the TNA clown that likes to hop on the leg saddles still cant buy wood because there is no lumber yard around is a ****in lier

Dnick the bisnitch went out and bought a konaki 12 because i made fun of his kicker comp

and aero ports are used only for spl when the are placed outside of the box as shown on his previous build, show me ten vehicles that have aero ports that are tuned to 27hz, or play music for that matter with 4 18s

and if i wasted my time to build a a sub enclosure for a 21" sub i would put a 4hp on that biitch and feed it 12k in a second.

once again the haters have come out to play...

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 11:44 PM
Your a cocky mother fuvker arn't you. Your advice is only an opinion on here, its not txt book info on how to build the proper box.

There not gonna listen to you so stop trying to get them to.

so darren you finally realized im cocky. and it is my opinion. but when someone has asks for thoughts , and advise is given. others that have no experience in that area should have nothing to say because they dont know.

sub-FATHER
12-05-2009, 11:48 PM
You should see his post he made in a thread a ways back claiming that sound waves don't reflect off of objects and that you can tell exactly where bass tones originate from.

nice rewording, never said waves dont reflect,,,, hold on they go through the glass.... HERES YOUR SIGN


*******

TnT_Sounds
12-05-2009, 11:51 PM
:laugh:

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 11:53 PM
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh277/basebalz13/40600022-1.jpg


33hz.....

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 11:55 PM
once again i have a bunch of punks thinking they know me....

this was a build log, and advise was given, then some punk kids came along and decided to say "no... its ok to build a box with 3/4 in and only a double baffle for (4 18's)

the post i made 4 months ago was to prove someone wrong on my port dimensions, which came out exactly as i planned...
the TNA clown that likes to hop on the leg saddles still cant buy wood because there is no lumber yard around is a ****in lier

Dnick the bisnitch went out and bought a konaki 12 because i made fun of his kicker comp

and aero ports are used only for spl when the are placed outside of the box as shown on his previous build, show me ten vehicles that have aero ports that are tuned to 27hz, or play music for that matter with 4 18s

and if i wasted my time to build a a sub enclosure for a 21" sub i would put a 4hp on that biitch and feed it 12k in a second.

once again the haters have come out to play...



then why did you think you HAVE to have 16sq of port area for each cube

EuphoricBass247
12-05-2009, 11:56 PM
Subqweefer, Please Shut Your Fuken *** Model Mouth Sincerely, Entire population of caraudio.com/forum.

basebalz13
12-05-2009, 11:57 PM
doesnt paper shred to pieces when you put it in the port of a roughly 150+ system???

correct me if im wrong

on that video you had 4 18's on a 5k amp and put a piece of paper in the port and well yeh you could still write on it

MakeshiftAudio
12-05-2009, 11:58 PM
Um, give me a couple of weeks or so, with my external 10" aero with a 15" TSNS or 15" monster neo sub. It's able to be tuned to 29Hz if I wanted, but I'm making it for 35Hz on the longest port, and 49Hz for the shortest arrangement. I might make one for 29Hz just to prove you wrong, it just requires a single cut with a bandsaw.

dbeez
12-06-2009, 12:01 AM
sub2weeker you can stop now k thanx

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:11 AM
Um, give me a couple of weeks or so, with my external 10" aero with a 15" TSNS or 15" monster neo sub. It's able to be tuned to 29Hz if I wanted, but I'm making it for 35Hz on the longest port, and 49Hz for the shortest arrangement. I might make one for 29Hz just to prove you wrong, it just requires a single cut with a bandsaw.

and i'm sure this will be for a daily system right? :laugh: nobody uses a an aero port externally if its not for spl. thats just plain ugly and stupid.

EuphoricBass247
12-06-2009, 12:13 AM
and i'm sure this will be for a daily system right? :laugh: nobody uses a an aero port externally if its not for spl. thats just plain ugly and stupid.

Or maybe just a way to achieve the desired tuning you stupid ***.Who gives a **** how it looks if it sounds the way you want it to

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:15 AM
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh277/basebalz13/40600022-1.jpg


33hz.....

yep... that aint to 27 hz. thats a long way to go on port length still

and this guy is wanting to run 4 18s with only 2 aero ports...

wont work!!!!

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:17 AM
Or maybe just a way to achieve the desired tuning you stupid ***.Who gives a **** how it looks if it sounds the way you want it to

maybe you should read what the OP has in store for the box and you would see that his earo port idea will not work with his enclosure since he is basing his build off his previous build with the aero ports.

plus the box is gonna be bigger and he wont have that play from behind his box he has now.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:18 AM
doesnt paper shred to pieces when you put it in the port of a roughly 150+ system???

correct me if im wrong

on that video you had 4 18's on a 5k amp and put a piece of paper in the port and well yeh you could still write on it

well if you watched my video than the proof is in the answer..

NO

basebalz13
12-06-2009, 12:19 AM
yep... that aint to 27 hz. thats a long way to go on port length still

and this guy is wanting to run 4 18s with only 2 aero ports...

wont work!!!!

sorry i like to actually hear my bass, not just watch my sub move

and he wants to use 4 6" if im not mistaken

MakeshiftAudio
12-06-2009, 12:19 AM
Or maybe just a way to achieve the desired tuning you stupid ***.Who gives a **** how it looks if it sounds the way you want it to

I don't think he gets it. I don't think he ever will, his ego is too inflated. I give up on this case, and all I have to say is:

sub2weeker, you are arrogant and ignorant. We cannot stress this enough. Our claims are based on how you act, what you say, and handle you handle situations.

I will treat you like I treated McIntosh, like you're an inferior that just doesn't understand what's going on and never will. When you attempt to understand, you just get frustrated. When others oppose something against what you think, you get frustrated.

I am done dealing with you. Have a nice time on the forum.

Team Nemesis-DJ
12-06-2009, 12:20 AM
Subweeker ...its time to be quiet ...guy does need some work on the port side of his design ,box size is right on ...

basebalz13
12-06-2009, 12:21 AM
I don't think he gets it. I don't think he ever will, his ego is too inflated. I give up on this case, and all I have to say is:

sub2weeker, you are arrogant and ignorant. We cannot stress this enough. Our claims are based on how you act, what you say, and handle you handle situations.

I will treat you like I treated McIntosh, like you're an inferior that just doesn't understand what's going on and never will. When you attempt to understand, you just get frustrated. When others oppose something against what you think, you get frustrated.

I am done dealing with you. Have a nice day.



well put sam, well put

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:25 AM
the only one here that is gonna be trully effected by this whole build log is the owner of the thread... and well given advise has been turned into a typical circle jerk. so OP... you are the only one the will suffer from this...

TnT_Sounds
12-06-2009, 12:28 AM
Subweeker ...its time to be quiet ...guy does need some work on the port side of his design ,box size is right on ...

Hey DJ, your 12s aren't loud and your advice is useless cuz you don't have 4 18's. LMFAO :laugh:

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:37 AM
Hey DJ, your 12s aren't loud and your advice is useless cuz you don't have 4 18's. LMFAO :laugh:

hey travis.. your 8 15s arent loud, wont be loud and never will be because you dont have them, wont build the box. dont have the money to and your an azzclown of a nerd.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:38 AM
Hey DJ, your 12s aren't loud and your advice is useless cuz you don't have 4 18's. LMFAO :laugh:

hey travis.. your 8 15s arent loud, wont be loud and never will be because you dont have them, wont build the box. dont have the money to and your an azzclown of a nerd.

and quit acting like you know people personally because you dont.

TnT_Sounds
12-06-2009, 12:40 AM
:laugh: I would be mad too.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:42 AM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=449294

Thewes
12-06-2009, 12:51 AM
once again i have a bunch of punks thinking they know me....

this was a build log, and advise was given, then some punk kids came along and decided to say "no... its ok to build a box with 3/4 in and only a double baffle for (4 18's)

the post i made 4 months ago was to prove someone wrong on my port dimensions, which came out exactly as i planned...

the TNA clown that likes to hop on the leg saddles still cant buy wood because there is no lumber yard around is a ****in lier

Dnick the bisnitch went out and bought a konaki 12 because i made fun of his kicker comp

and aero ports are used only for spl when the are placed outside of the box as shown on his previous build, show me ten vehicles that have aero ports that are tuned to 27hz, or play music for that matter with 4 18s

and if i wasted my time to build a a sub enclosure for a 21" sub i would put a 4hp on that biitch and feed it 12k in a second.

once again the haters have come out to play...

First off, you know you are dealing with a dumb *** when you see the word hater. Secondly, I run 3 aeroports in my 14^3 enclosure tuned at 28hz, its one of the better sounding enclosures I have used. I would love to hear your explanation as to why flared aeroports are for SPL only, lmao.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:56 AM
First off, you know you are dealing with a dumb *** when you see the word hater. Secondly, I run 3 aeroports in my 14^3 enclosure tuned at 28hz, its one of the better sounding enclosures I have used. I would love to hear your explanation as to why flared aeroports are for SPL only, lmao.

and what subs do you have?

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 12:58 AM
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/SDC10448.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/0926091706.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/th_SDC10447.jpg (http://s377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/?action=view&current=SDC10447.flv)
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/th_SDC10449.jpg (http://s377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/andrewsowinski/?action=view&current=SDC10449.flv)

and thats quality there. imagine tunning 4 18s to 27hz with ports like that

Dak446
12-06-2009, 12:59 AM
once again i have a bunch of punks thinking they know me....

this was a build log, and advise was given, then some punk kids came along and decided to say "no... its ok to build a box with 3/4 in and only a double baffle for (4 18's)

the post i made 4 months ago was to prove someone wrong on my port dimensions, which came out exactly as i planned...

the TNA clown that likes to hop on the leg saddles still cant buy wood because there is no lumber yard around is a ****in lier

Dnick the bisnitch went out and bought a konaki 12 because i made fun of his kicker comp

and aero ports are used only for spl when the are placed outside of the box as shown on his previous build, show me ten vehicles that have aero ports that are tuned to 27hz, or play music for that matter with 4 18s

and if i wasted my time to build a a sub enclosure for a 21" sub i would put a 4hp on that biitch and feed it 12k in a second.

once again the haters have come out to play...


Lol. I have 4 18's tuned with aeros. Interesting :laugh:

power-fanatic07
12-06-2009, 01:00 AM
18s need space to breath. i dont believe in that small box crap unless your burping for spl.

if you don't know what you're talking about then gtfo :fyi:

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 01:02 AM
Lol. I have 4 18's tuned with aeros. Interesting :laugh:

are you bringing it to the shows next year?

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 01:10 AM
well the OP's should never ask for thought, advise or answers... because everyone has 2 cents. but there are ones you might want to listen to. and that be the ones that actually have the big system

if you want to know how to lift weights you dont ask the skinny kid, do you?

if you want to be smart you dont ask the kids that ditch school, do you?

if you want your car fixed you dont ask a chick, do you?

SO WHY IN THE *** WOULD YOU LISTEN TO AZZCLOWNS THAT DONT HAVE A BIG SYSTEM???

Annnarbor84
12-06-2009, 01:55 AM
Another quality CA thread:laugh:

godhatescivics
12-06-2009, 04:21 AM
sub2weeker

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425954


you have come along way since your post 4 months ago. back then you didnt even know the proper porting for a box.... my favorite post was thats a sweet *** box, how do you determine tuning?

and now your a expert box builder congrats!




edit: lmfao you do 155's with 4 18's? i do more than that with two :D

me too lol

godhatescivics
12-06-2009, 04:27 AM
and the aeros were put in the box backwords in that pic for a test to prove it would fall off not gain so perhaps you should ask question before you flap your **** sucker
ok there car audio god

NoCoSPL
12-06-2009, 04:35 AM
well the OP's should never ask for thought, advise or answers... because everyone has 2 cents. but there are ones you might want to listen to. and that be the ones that actually have the big system
if you want to know how to lift weights you dont ask the skinny kid, do you?

if you want to be smart you dont ask the kids that ditch school, do you?

if you want your car fixed you dont ask a chick, do you?

SO WHY IN THE *** WOULD YOU LISTEN TO AZZCLOWNS THAT DONT HAVE A BIG SYSTEM???

Just because you have a decent sized system with decent numbers you think ur opinions should rule over all others? You couldn't be more wrong. Numbers don't make your voice any louder than anyone elses. Nor does the ****ing caps lock either.

DBDRAGGUY
12-06-2009, 05:14 AM
Watch these vidieos and you will realize what you are dealing with, obviously he is an expert on the subject.:rolleyes:

Sounds like he is stroking himself in the first one and the rest are almost as entertaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq5hh1V08T0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQsVr8-xQA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efGqqs9WFDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UbeR8t0bhY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLL_KtsOHCA

profundus-sanus
12-06-2009, 07:54 AM
7 square inches of port per cube is a tad small... although not a bad box idea. 16 cubes is plenty for a common chamber no wall box for 4 18's. It might work well because of the sheer size of the vehicle.

I would try to make the back plate of the box removable, just in case you want to add a larger port later.

I found 9-10 square inches per cube worked best for a balance of daily while still meetering well in my explorer, w/ aero's..
so i could see 7 working in a yukon xl...

BigJoker
12-06-2009, 09:31 AM
once again i have a bunch of punks thinking they know me....

this was a build log, and advise was given, then some punk kids came along and decided to say "no... its ok to build a box with 3/4 in and only a double baffle for (4 18's)

the post i made 4 months ago was to prove someone wrong on my port dimensions, which came out exactly as i planned...

the TNA clown that likes to hop on the leg saddles still cant buy wood because there is no lumber yard around is a ****in lier

Dnick the bisnitch went out and bought a konaki 12 because i made fun of his kicker comp

and aero ports are used only for spl when the are placed outside of the box as shown on his previous build, show me ten vehicles that have aero ports that are tuned to 27hz, or play music for that matter with 4 18s

and if i wasted my time to build a a sub enclosure for a 21" sub i would put a 4hp on that biitch and feed it 12k in a second.

once again the haters have come out to play...

TMH has 3 18's in his Tahoe tuned to 28hz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQgmu7AuMjo

thefordmccord
12-06-2009, 09:54 AM
sub2weeker needs to be banned for constantly handing out bad information. He shouldn't be allowed outside of the thunderdome because everything he post is a ******* joke.

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 10:06 AM
sub2weeker needs to be banned for constantly handing out bad information. He shouldn't be allowed outside of the thunderdome because everything he post is a ******* joke.

but it is rather entertaining :laugh:

TurdFergueson2
12-06-2009, 10:42 AM
OP see what happens when you dont have pretty pictures for the boys to look at?

This thread suffers from chicks not kissing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/cuttingupthedead/usa_girls_kissing_330v.jpg

http://www.clublez.com/movies/a_world_of_girls_kissing/usa/usa_girls_kissing_339.jpg

http://www.girlswhoenjoygirls.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/hotgirls.jpg

TurdFergueson2
12-06-2009, 10:43 AM
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2006/8/148576_c8fce134-cf03-4129-bf04-a83696245af9_prod.jpg

on1wheel01
12-06-2009, 11:10 AM
Another quality CA thread:laugh:
this

NoCoSPL
12-06-2009, 01:03 PM
GTbikes good luck on build this should be loud! I hope you do more than a 55 runnin on 16 volts :) If not im sure it will still be loud!

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 01:48 PM
me too lol

prove it! show me the footage!

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 01:54 PM
TMH has 3 18's in his Tahoe tuned to 28hz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQgmu7AuMjo

yeah and he has 5 aero ports to do it, and that box is huge. but that is playing music though! so thats not an spl usage of aero ports.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 01:56 PM
sub2weeker needs to be banned for constantly handing out bad information. He shouldn't be allowed outside of the thunderdome because everything he post is a ******* joke.

well when you get over a 151, than maybe your advise will be taken!

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 02:00 PM
GTbikes good luck on build this should be loud! I hope you do more than a 55 runnin on 16 volts :) If not im sure it will still be loud!

did you design your box and build it? how much space you got in that port? you just popped in and say my advise is wrong? i was louder legal on the dash with 1 5k compared to your 2 40.1s.

RAM_Designs
12-06-2009, 02:09 PM
4.5-5ft^3 each isn't bad at all, especially if it's a shared chamber.

NoCoSPL
12-06-2009, 02:10 PM
did you design your box and build it? how much space you got in that port? you just popped in and say my advise is wrong? i was louder legal on the dash with 1 5k compared to your 2 40.1s.

Good for you, i have 2 15's in a trunk, and you have 4 18's in a wall behind the b-pillar, of course your louder than me.

Your numbers mean nothing to me, i don't care how loud you are and your advice is not better than anyone elses cause your louder.

And i had a friend aid me in my box design, thats why i never run my mouth in enclosure design cause i know i don't know everything. Im just lucky to do a 150+ legal out of a trunk daily, you should be doing 57's in a 4 18 wall anyway. :)

basebalz13
12-06-2009, 02:16 PM
so my sundown nightshade 18s and saz4500s should be here some time next week and im getting ready to start my box im thinking burch with double baffle and double port wall the rest single layer with 8 peaces dowl rod 4 top to bottom 2 side to side 2 front to back and 4x4 cut in half to round out the corners so six rounded corners all sides and the back then about a gallon or so resin 4 6 inch aeros tuned to 27 htz to start 19.5 cubes to start about 16 after displacement car freq is 37 htz any thoughts i will have pics of old build up soon

read the post sub2weeker, you keep saying 2 6" he is using 4 6" aero's

1 per 18

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 02:23 PM
Good for you, i have 2 15's in a trunk, and you have 4 18's in a wall behind the b-pillar, of course your louder than me.

Your numbers mean nothing to me, i don't care how loud you are and your advice is not better than anyone elses cause your louder.

And i had a friend aid me in my box design, thats why i never run my mouth in enclosure design cause i know i don't know everything. Im just lucky to do a 150+ legal out of a trunk daily, you should be doing 57's in a 4 18 wall anyway. :)

why because steve did it on a burp at 50 hz? i play music and i havent had a 2nd amp at full power yet, thats why i bought the soungital 16k, to make sure i dont have multiple amp problems. i dont want to be a diq to you josh. but you dont build and design your own stuff. i do! and from my knowlege and experience.
i went against advise, just like most of the people will on here. and i just happened to be loud outta it. i built mine to drive and listen to every day. and thats exactly what i do. my vans outside covered in snow right now. just got done driving it as a matter a fact.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 02:27 PM
read the post sub2weeker, you keep saying 2 6" he is using 4 6" aero's

1 per 18

even with four he will have to build a box bigger to accomidate for the airspace the aero ports will take up in airspace from the enclosure. and thats because the aero ports will be long as hell and 6 inches in opening each thats 24 inches of surface space.

but im sure the box will be fine. i just looked his original thoughts and they didnt calculate out for his tuning and airspace or his dimensions.

NoCoSPL
12-06-2009, 02:29 PM
why because steve did it on a burp at 50 hz? i play music and i havent had a 2nd amp at full power yet, thats why i bought the soungital 16k, to make sure i dont have multiple amp problems. i dont want to be a diq to you josh. but you dont build and design your own stuff. i do! and from my knowlege and experience.
i went against advise, just like most of the people will on here. and i just happened to be loud outta it. i built mine to drive and listen to every day. and thats exactly what i do. my vans outside covered in snow right now. just got done driving it as a matter a fact.

No one has ever touched my car or done work to it on the audio side besides me, i had a friend pull out a calculator for about 10 min to figure port tuning, so that means im unexperienced :crap:

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 02:32 PM
No one has ever touched my car or done work to it on the audio side besides me, i had a friend pull out a calculator for about 10 min to figure port tuning, so that means im unexperienced :crap:
so you did build and design your box?

NoCoSPL
12-06-2009, 02:33 PM
so you did build and design your box?

Of course! :D

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 02:33 PM
look forget i gave advise to someone building 4 18s...

its not like i have four of them my self and could possibly have advise to give.

sorry for jacking your thread over stupid **** OP.

MakeshiftAudio
12-06-2009, 02:42 PM
look forget i gave advise to someone building 4 18s...

its not like i have four of them my self and could possibly have advise to give.

sorry for jacking your thread over stupid **** OP.

Maybe if you hadn't of opened your mouth, which appears to be the condition that must be met before your intellectual comments(read:****) are able to be made, this wouldn't have happened. :confused:

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 02:45 PM
Maybe if you hadn't of opened your mouth, which appears to be the condition that must be met before your intellectual comments(read:****) are able to be made, this wouldn't have happened. :confused:

You might want to stick to repairing amplifers and not pop in on box designs.

ThunderCat95
12-06-2009, 02:46 PM
Sick equipment! sub2weeker your a troll stop slinging your crap all over peoples threads.

MakeshiftAudio
12-06-2009, 02:49 PM
You might want to stick to repairing amplifers and not pop in on box designs.

You might want to stick to just guessing about how things work, rather than saying you know how things works.

kfx450r
12-06-2009, 03:18 PM
Box size is good, 4cubes is fine for the nightshades altho a tad on the small side it will work, and being a smaller box you can throw tons of power to them. As for the port, id just go with a simple slot port around 250 sq inches. tune it around 35-37 hz and it should slam.

profundus-sanus
12-06-2009, 03:23 PM
look forget i gave advise to someone building 4 18s...

its not like i have four of them my self and could possibly have advise to give.

sorry for jacking your thread over stupid **** OP.


yea.. your right.. because you built a system w/ 4 18s you are the new authority on it.

******* tard

godhatescivics
12-06-2009, 03:31 PM
very well put nick

IMOVeCHICKENS!
12-06-2009, 03:36 PM
someone should delete this thread 9 pages and not one picture

fail

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 03:59 PM
Sick equipment! sub2weeker your a troll stop slinging your crap all over peoples threads.

thanks 2 post reply. i like to help those that are lost. but it appears there are more than a couple here.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 03:59 PM
very well put nick

are you riding another leg like boostnbeers leg you were riding?

plugitin
12-06-2009, 04:03 PM
sub2weeker destroys another thread...WOOT

dcbangrr9319
12-06-2009, 04:09 PM
lmao yeah this thread is a fail. 4 cubes most likely will be fine but a little more room would be better. However id personally lose the nightshades and go DC myself. :) lol.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 04:12 PM
sub2weeker destroys another thread...WOOT

no just gave a box idea to the guy and got bashed for it again. but what do i know? im doing a 155.2 legal. thats what this guy wants but hes gonna get stuck at the 148 mark. if he's lucky. he wants a 155+ and he wont get that with his box desighn he is making. but thatnks for pointing out that bit of information. i hope this guy post his scores with his box type and shows the meter score.

plugitin
12-06-2009, 04:13 PM
lmao yeah this thread is a fail. 4 cubes most likely will be fine but a little more room would be better. However id personally lose the nightshades and go DC myself. :) lol.

both subs are great choices ;)


no just gave a box idea to the guy and got bashed for it again. but what do i know? im doing a 155.2 legal. thats what this guy wants but hes gonna get stuck at the 148 mark. if he's lucky. he wants a 155+ and he wont get that with his box desighn he is making. but thatnks for pointing out that bit of information. i hope this guy post his scores with his box type and shows the meter score.

it does not matter how loud you are...

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 04:16 PM
both subs are great choices ;)



it does not matter how loud you are...

i know.! but the OP wants to be at a 155+ so he does care. and since i have achieved that score myself. i thought this guy would take sound advise. but i'm sure he will take the advise of someone that cant break a 145. thats more logical right?

RAM_Designs
12-06-2009, 04:18 PM
6 inches in opening each thats 24 inches of surface space.

Uber fail.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 04:20 PM
Uber fail.
guess so

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 04:22 PM
either way.... where are some pictures of this build log. theres a whole lot of nothing going on. this thread was started way premature, just like most of the people on it.

plugitin
12-06-2009, 04:22 PM
i know.! but the OP wants to be at a 155+ so he does care. and since i have achieved that score myself. i thought this guy would take sound advise. but i'm sure he will take the advise of someone that cant break a 145. thats more logical right?

no, you come into this thread saying aeros are only for spl, WRONG.

Then you say 4 cubes is not enough for NS when the MAKER of the sub says they work very well in 4 cubes.

You do 155 with 4 18's, so what? ****, im shooting for more then that with just 2 18's.

I understand your trying to help...but man, stop acting like you know everything.

RAM_Designs
12-06-2009, 04:24 PM
guess so

113in^2 would be the correct port area, not counting flares.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 04:26 PM
no, you come into this thread saying aeros are only for spl, WRONG.

Then you say 4 cubes is not enough for NS when the MAKER of the sub says they work very well in 4 cubes.

You do 155 with 4 18's, so what? ****, im shooting for more then that with just 2 18's.

I understand your trying to help...but man, stop acting like you know everything.

i dont know everything! never said i did. but when this guy trys to tune down to 27 hz with his box size and realizes he has no place to put his ports and cant reach the desired tunning, and doesnt reach his 155. he will be dissapointed.

and my 155.2 is legal and on a blown amp, but i am going for 161. and it will happen this next year.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 04:27 PM
113in^2 would be the correct port area, not counting flares.

yeah forgot about the flare, he definitely wont have space for them on the baffle

Snow90
12-06-2009, 04:28 PM
box will be fine

I agree. Make a different box. With more port area.

Edit: Sub2weeker is a f*cking moron.

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 04:33 PM
I agree. Make a different box. With more port area.

Edit: Sub2weeker is a f*cking moron.

yet you agree. thats all that matters.

Snow90
12-06-2009, 04:35 PM
yet you agree. thats all that matters.

only because I think it needs more port area.

I don't agree with anything else you have said..

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 04:38 PM
only because I think it needs more port area.

I don't agree with anything else you have said..

like what? the aero ports? i wouldnt use em unless i was building a burp box for a small car.

i dont see many aero port designs in a box wth four 18s. do you?

Snow90
12-06-2009, 04:42 PM
like what? the aero ports? i wouldnt use em unless i was building a burp box for a small car.

i dont see many aero port designs in a box wth four 18s. do you?

...

ThunderCat95
12-06-2009, 05:17 PM
like what? the aero ports? i wouldnt use em unless i was building a burp box for a small car.

i dont see many aero port designs in a box wth four 18s. do you?

You do realize that aero ports have been proven to gain over slot ports while giving you considerable port area advantages, right? Not to mention they lessen the chance of port noise. The only real downside I see to using an aero port over a slot port is the cost..

plugitin
12-06-2009, 05:18 PM
You do realize that aero ports have been proven to gain over slot ports while giving you considerable port area advantages, right? Not to mention they lessen the chance of port noise. The only real downside I see to using an aero port over a slot port is the cost..

eh...

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 05:40 PM
this is no build log....

this is exactly the type of build log that shouldnt be started.


there is no pics, nothing being built or anything.

Snow90
12-06-2009, 06:00 PM
this is no build log....

this is exactly the type of build log that shouldnt be started.


there is no pics, nothing being built or anything.

who cares. lol.

then don't look in here and move on.

Villeza1
12-06-2009, 06:00 PM
this is no build log....

this is exactly the type of build log that shouldnt be started.


there is no pics, nothing being built or anything.

X2

This is the only thing I'm agreeing with btw

Villeza1
12-06-2009, 06:02 PM
Anyway, can we get back on the subject...the build log. I wanna see pics!

BigJoker
12-06-2009, 06:07 PM
no just gave a box idea to the guy and got bashed for it again. but what do i know? im doing a 155.2 legal. thats what this guy wants but hes gonna get stuck at the 148 mark. if he's lucky. he wants a 155+ and he wont get that with his box desighn he is making. but thatnks for pointing out that bit of information. i hope this guy post his scores with his box type and shows the meter score.



music or tone?

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 06:11 PM
You do realize that aero ports have been proven to gain over slot ports while giving you considerable port area advantages, right? Not to mention they lessen the chance of port noise. The only real downside I see to using an aero port over a slot port is the cost..

Really...

Ive switched aero ports out for slots and gained...

As long as its the right size- a slot port wont have port noise anyway.

Depends on the vehicle etc..

But no, thats not true at all..

How many aero ports do you see in big burp vehicles- and guys doing mid to high 150s on music?

People say that burp vehicles and streetbeaters have nothing in common, but thats also false.

Look @ all the guys with big walls that streetbeat- hell anyone in SB or bassrace for that matter.. They glass the inside-bondo, round corners, wrap the ports w pvc etc..

However, its all trial and error in the end..

jbizzle
12-06-2009, 06:14 PM
Really...

Ive switched aero ports out for slots and gained...

As long as its the right size- a slot port wont have port noise anyway.

Depends on the vehicle etc..

But no, thats not true at all..

How many aero ports do you see in big burp vehicles- and guys doing mid to high 150s on music?

People say that burp vehicles and streetbeaters have nothing in common, but thats also false.

Look @ all the guys with big walls that streetbeat- hell anyone in SB or bassrace for that matter.. They glass the inside-bondo, round corners, wrap the ports w pvc etc..

However, its all trial and error in the end..

Rio you don't know anything :laugh:

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 06:15 PM
Rio you don't know anything :laugh:

Dont make me fist your mother again ;)

She likes my port :p:

jbizzle
12-06-2009, 06:16 PM
How dare you talk **** online, I will have none of this! :furious:

RAM_Designs
12-06-2009, 06:19 PM
Anyone interested in a $3.1mil house on 2.73 acres in west Hollywood? Victorian style with lots of living room space...PM me if interested!

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 06:21 PM
How dare you talk **** online, I will have none of this! :furious:

:laugh: dont make me come up there


Anyone interested in a $3.1mil house on 2.73 acres in west Hollywood? Victorian style with lots of living room space...PM me if interested!

How many sq ft?

Ive got a few clients looking.

But only if i can ride in the Bent..

Villeza1
12-06-2009, 06:21 PM
Anyone interested in a $3.1mil house on 2.73 acres in west Hollywood? Victorian style with lots of living room space...PM me if interested!

You rich son of a b!tch!!

I'm jealous... :(

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 06:33 PM
You rich son of a b!tch!!

I'm jealous... :(

Do you even know who Ryan is?

this guys wipes w $100's, and has a neo column toilet!!

Villeza1
12-06-2009, 06:38 PM
Do you even know who Ryan is?

this guys wipes w $100's, and has a neo column toilet!!

Uhh DURRR!!


I bought my amps from this guy. Very good business man.

ThunderCat95
12-06-2009, 06:41 PM
Really...

Ive switched aero ports out for slots and gained...

As long as its the right size- a slot port wont have port noise anyway.

Depends on the vehicle etc..

But no, thats not true at all..

How many aero ports do you see in big burp vehicles- and guys doing mid to high 150s on music?

People say that burp vehicles and streetbeaters have nothing in common, but thats also false.

Look @ all the guys with big walls that streetbeat- hell anyone in SB or bassrace for that matter.. They glass the inside-bondo, round corners, wrap the ports w pvc etc..

However, its all trial and error in the end..

Im sorry, I shouldn't have said that so generalized. I did not mean to imply that every single setup on the planet will experience the same effects from using aero ports. Of course you would assume that though, huh. But yes, many people have experienced gains by using them. I was simply trying to show this moron that people have had good luck with them and that they aren't useless.

I 100% agree with your fourth and final statements.

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 07:15 PM
Im sorry, I shouldn't have said that so generalized. I did not mean to imply that every single setup on the planet will experience the same effects from using aero ports. Of course you would assume that though, huh. But yes, many people have experienced gains by using them. I was simply trying to show this moron that people have had good luck with them and that they aren't useless.

I 100% agree with your fourth and final statements.

i absolutley agree aero's are not worthless

In a bigger setup such as this, id love to see the diff in aero's to slot

I imagine it like this

The waves in the box has to find its way to the aero, just as a slot port.

Wouldnt the slot allow air to move easier out of the box?

So would standing waves be worse in an aero enclosure?

Can you make the box "better" with slot ports because of 45's forcing the air out- rather than the air having to find its way out w aero's?

I maybe waaaay off on this statement though.

gtbike900
12-06-2009, 08:18 PM
yep... that aint to 27 hz. thats a long way to go on port length still

and this guy is wanting to run 4 18s with only 2 aero ports...

wont work!!!!

i actully said 4 6 inch port but whatever you know everything i have 2 6 inch ones in my 15 box

gtbike900
12-06-2009, 08:28 PM
and by the way sub2weeker i not broke and can afford to build a new box if it fails and being that this is a hobby it fun to do builds but i forgot how we have to be all serious on everything and about me doing a only a 148 im doing 152.8 at 37 with one saz3500 i will get videos up on my termlab for ya buddy with my crappy 9.5 cube box after displacement with 2 6 inch aeros tuned way to low to 27 go watch the videos in the other thread minus the bullshit the song im playing when the sunroof is caving in is 30 htz chopped an super screwed

ThunderCat95
12-06-2009, 09:09 PM
I think with a bigger setup with a wall or larger enclosure in general a slot port would work out better, but it looks like OP is tight on space so aeros arent off base by any means.

RAM_Designs
12-06-2009, 09:43 PM
How many sq ft?

Ive got a few clients looking.

But only if i can ride in the Bent..
The house is a hair under 4,000 ft^2 living space, add an extra 1200 for the three car garage. And you're going to have to be more specific as to which Bentley you're wanting a ride in. :fyi:


You rich son of a b!tch!!

I'm jealous... :(
I bet.


Do you even know who Ryan is?

this guys wipes w $100's, and has a neo column toilet!!
Actually, the market is slowing down for me, so I downgraded to 50's for toilet paper use. I did however upgrade my kitchen sink to a solid neo magnet bowl, and I still blow my nose with 100's.

gtbike900
12-06-2009, 09:51 PM
I think with a bigger setup with a wall or larger enclosure in general a slot port would work out better, but it looks like OP is tight on space so aeros arent off base by any means.

i want to stay no wall and could do 25 cubes with no problem but i was told by jacob fuller that 4 cubes per 18 will work good 19.5 cubes before displacement and 16 after i like building boxes so if it dont work will rebuild

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 10:36 PM
and by the way sub2weeker i not broke and can afford to build a new box if it fails and being that this is a hobby it fun to do builds but i forgot how we have to be all serious on everything and about me doing a only a 148 im doing 152.8 at 37 with one saz3500 i will get videos up on my termlab for ya buddy with my crappy 9.5 cube box after displacement with 2 6 inch aeros tuned way to low to 27 go watch the videos in the other thread minus the bullshit the song im playing when the sunroof is caving in is 30 htz chopped an super screwed

man im just trying help! i said that a slot port in this case is gonna be a better choice, make all the walls double and tripple baffle. these are 18s your building for. why would you sacrifice the thickness of the enslosure. and further more why did you start a thread that says "any thoughts"?
and then have not one picture of anything and reject advise?

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 10:39 PM
so my sundown nightshade 18s and saz4500s should be here some time next week and im getting ready to start my box im thinking burch with double baffle and double port wall the rest single layer with 8 peaces dowl rod 4 top to bottom 2 side to side 2 front to back and 4x4 cut in half to round out the corners so six rounded corners all sides and the back then about a gallon or so resin 4 6 inch aeros tuned to 27 htz to start 19.5 cubes to start about 16 after displacement car freq is 37 htz any thoughts i will have pics of old build up soon

do you have any?

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 10:42 PM
The house is a hair under 4,000 ft^2 living space, add an extra 1200 for the three car garage. And you're going to have to be more specific as to which Bentley you're wanting a ride in. :fyi:


I bet.


Actually, the market is slowing down for me, so I downgraded to 50's for toilet paper use. I did however upgrade my kitchen sink to a solid neo magnet bowl, and I still blow my nose with 100's.

Perfect, ill take it.

The bently GT

Only using 50's now huh- sorry to hear that.

With all the changes in the economy, ive had to quit wearing condoms, and am only sleeping with midgest prostitutes, as they are cheaper than the normal sized prostitues.

Highs on bass
12-06-2009, 10:47 PM
yeah and he has 5 aero ports to do it, and that box is huge. but that is playing music though! so thats not an spl usage of aero ports.

you continue to bash the areo's for the use "ONLY" spl Yet you just made it obvious that you even make our point that what you say is crap. Because you yourself contradict yourself. I know this site is full of full grown little kids but you continue to prove to everyone that you cannot be taken seriously because you don't really know what your talking about. Also you bash this guy about his ports and not having enough port area. But when I read both threads you started about your build log. I saw only two things; One being that you were using 4 awg wire for a big setup and, two you were using no fuses for a daily ride.

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 10:51 PM
you continue to bash the areo's for the use "ONLY" spl Yet you just made it obvious that you even make our point that what you say is crap. Because you yourself contradict yourself. I know this site is full of full grown little kids but you continue to prove to everyone that you cannot be taken seriously because you don't really know what your talking about. Also you bash this guy about his ports and not having enough port area. But when I read both threads you started about your build log. I saw only two things; One being that you were using 4 awg wire for a big setup and, two you were using no fuses for a daily ride.


I dont run fuses for my daily ride :confused:

doesnt mean anything..

And hes running 4/0 not 4ga

So you be wrong

Why do people with no stereo always have input?

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 10:52 PM
you continue to bash the areo's for the use "ONLY" spl Yet you just made it obvious that you even make our point that what you say is crap. Because you yourself contradict yourself. I know this site is full of full grown little kids but you continue to prove to everyone that you cannot be taken seriously because you don't really know what your talking about. Also you bash this guy about his ports and not having enough port area. But when I read both threads you started about your build log. I saw only two things; One being that you were using 4 awg wire for a big setup and, two you were using no fuses for a daily ride.

thats not 4awg, i said 4/0 thats four times bigger than 0 guage. and i dont use fuses from my batteries to my amps. the amps are louder and get the current they need to perform at their best. i just happen to drive it everyday as well and play music full tilt because i like it.

edit: I use 4awg for my remote wire!

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 10:53 PM
Jacob has done VERY good numbers with a single NS, so I'd pick his brain as he's obviously learned some things along the way...

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 10:56 PM
[QUOTE=Highs on bass;6791541]you continue to bash the areo's for the use "ONLY" spl Yet you just made it obvious that you even make our point that what you say is crap. Because you yourself contradict yourself. I know this site is full of full grown little kids but you continue to prove to everyone that you cannot be taken seriously because you don't really know what your talking about. Also you bash this guy about his ports and not having enough port area. But when I read both threads you started about your build log. I saw only two things; One being that you were using 4 awg wire for a big setup and, two you were using no fuses for a daily ride.QUOTE]

I dont run fuses for my daily ride :confused:

doesnt mean anything..


next

I'd put fuses in just so you don't seem on the same intelligence level as tweaker ;)

so now you're referring to annarbor as a midget gutter snipe prostitute who likes scat :crazy:

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 10:57 PM
thats not 4awg, i said 4/0 thats four times bigger than 0 guage. and i dont use fuses from my batteries to my amps. the amps are louder and get the current they need to perform at their best. i just happen to drive it everyday as well and play music full tilt because i like it.

edit: I use 4awg for my remote wire!

please tell me you're kidding...

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I'd put fuses in just so you don't seem on the same intelligence level as tweaker ;)

so now you're referring to annarbor as a midget gutter snipe prostitute who likes scat :crazy:

Thats ok, no fuses for me.

annarbor said hes gonna scat in your mouf when he see's you next

Little birdy told me you were talkn ish about me @ a show..

interesting

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 11:00 PM
Thats ok, no fuses for me.

annarbor said hes gonna scat in your mouf when he see's you next

he must be assuming you'll remove the gimp suit first, otherwise he ain't doin ****....literally :laugh:

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 11:01 PM
Thats ok, no fuses for me.

annarbor said hes gonna scat in your mouf when he see's you next

Little birdy told me you were talkn ish about me @ a show..
interesting

:confused: do tell...

BigJoker
12-06-2009, 11:02 PM
Thats ok, no fuses for me.

annarbor said hes gonna scat in your mouf when he see's you next

Little birdy told me you were talkn ish about me @ a show..

interesting

mike only likes men who drive vans

jbizzle
12-06-2009, 11:07 PM
Thats ok, no fuses for me.

annarbor said hes gonna scat in your mouf when he see's you next

Little birdy told me you were talkn ish about me @ a show..

interesting

Fuses are for *******.

jbizzle
12-06-2009, 11:07 PM
mike only likes men who drive vans

He likes Jake? :eek:

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 11:08 PM
please tell me you're kidding...

NO, I HAVE 8 GUAGE ACTUALLY. AND I HAVE IT TOGGLED OFF THROUGH A CIRCUIT BREAKER SO WHEN YOUR IN THE LANES AND YOUR AMP GOES INTO PROTECT YOU CAN RESET EVERYTHING WITHOUT TURNING YOUR DECK OFF AND LOSING YOUR RUN. AND I GET THE SAME VOLTAGE TO MY AMPS POWER AS I DO MY REMOTE

jbizzle
12-06-2009, 11:10 PM
DO YOU HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS? DOES IT MAKE YOU THINK YOU'RE MORE INTIMIDATING ONLINE? BECAUSE YOU AREN'T :fyi:

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 11:10 PM
NO, I HAVE 8 GUAGE ACTUALLY. AND I HAVE IT TOGGLED OFF THROUGH A CIRCUIT BREAKER SO WHEN YOUR IN THE LANES AND YOUR AMP GOES INTO PROTECT YOU CAN RESET EVERYTHING WITHOUT TURNING YOUR DECK OFF AND LOSING YOUR RUN. AND I GET THE SAME VOLTAGE TO MY AMPS POWER AS I DO MY REMOTE

still overkill considering the amount of current going through a remote wire.

Toggle is a good idea, but not having your amps go into protect would be better...

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 11:11 PM
He likes Jake? :eek:

only when he wears the UGG's :laugh:

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 11:12 PM
mike only likes men who drive vans

until you're louder then tweaker you can shut your mouth :eek:

jbizzle
12-06-2009, 11:12 PM
only when he wears the UGG's :laugh:

Personally, I prefer Kelly with the UGG's on, only because of the way she launches them off her feet when its time for... ;)

mlstrass
12-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Personally, I prefer Kelly with the UGG's on, only because of the way she launches them off her feet when its time for... ;)

those aren't UGG's........her legs are THAT hairy :eek: :laugh:

gtbike900
12-06-2009, 11:17 PM
i made a new build log with pics and vids

gtbike900
12-06-2009, 11:17 PM
and minus all the bs

gtbike900
12-06-2009, 11:19 PM
i will have batts installed tomorrow and alts stepped up and exterly regulated in the next couple days box build starting 2

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 11:21 PM
DO YOU HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS? DOES IT MAKE YOU THINK YOU'RE MORE INTIMIDATING ONLINE? BECAUSE YOU AREN'T :fyi:

no i just start typing sometimes and its on caps so i continue

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 11:22 PM
still overkill considering the amount of current going through a remote wire.

Toggle is a good idea, but not having your amps go into protect would be better...

it happens though, and i want to make sure i have a good source to my amps at all times.

RAM_Designs
12-06-2009, 11:23 PM
Perfect, ill take it.
Awesome, I'll get my illegal immigrants to clean it up for you.


The bently GT
Excellent choice!


Only using 50's now huh- sorry to hear that.
It happens sometimes.


With all the changes in the economy, ive had to quit wearing condoms, and am only sleeping with midgest prostitutes, as they are cheaper than the normal sized prostitues.
Gotta do what you gotta do. :boink:

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 11:23 PM
and minus all the bs

now whos build is it, because godhatescivics started the other one?

and for real you should take care of the dangling power wire under the wheel well.

gtbike900
12-06-2009, 11:29 PM
he is my best friend and used to be my roomate to his fat girlfriend said i was a douche bag and could not live with me she would come home crying a *****ing about work and i was a **** i guess i work constution the ***** works at long horn i work 50 plus hours a week plus comunty service and i dont ***** o and i hit her dog for pissing on my ****** carpet

S.B.C.
12-06-2009, 11:36 PM
Awesome, I'll get my illegal immigrants to clean it up for you.

Thanks

Excellent choice!

I thought so aswell

It happens sometimes.

Tis life

Gotta do what you gotta do. :boink:

absolutley. I <3 you

sub-FATHER
12-06-2009, 11:37 PM
he is my best friend and used to be my roomate to his fat girlfriend said i was a douche bag and could not live with me she would come home crying a *****ing about work and i was a **** i guess i work constution the ***** works at long horn i work 50 plus hours a week plus comunty service and i dont ***** o and i hit her dog for pissing on my ****** carpet

YOUR GOING TO HELL...;)

BigJoker
12-07-2009, 12:33 AM
until you're louder then tweaker you can shut your mouth :eek:

**** my ***

Snow90
12-07-2009, 01:37 AM
i know.! but the OP wants to be at a 155+ so he does care. and since i have achieved that score myself. i thought this guy would take sound advise. but i'm sure he will take the advise of someone that cant break a 145. thats more logical right?

dude..

ADVICE*

TurdFergueson2
12-07-2009, 11:03 AM
Thats ok, no fuses for me.

annarbor said hes gonna scat in your mouf when he see's you next

Little birdy told me you were talkn ish about me @ a show..

interesting
No one cares about you Rio. Get over yourself.
It was me that called you a feg. He said you were actually ok. But he has a soft spot for boys who were fisted by their father/uncle. Not me though. I wouldn't **** on your mom if you were on fire.

Only thing I heard about you was you blew up your amps or some **** like that when they were down there earlier this year.

sub-FATHER
12-07-2009, 01:28 PM
dude..

ADVICE*

REALLY???

COPY AND PASTE WORKS NICELY:

ad·vise (d-vz)
v. ad·vised, ad·vis·ing, ad·vis·es
v.tr.
1. To offer advice to; counsel.
2. To recommend; suggest: advised patience.
3. Usage Problem To inform; notify.
v.intr.

BUT I USED IT IMPROPERLY... SORRY... Thanks for the grammar lesson...

sub-FATHER
12-07-2009, 01:33 PM
No one cares about you Rio. Get over yourself.
It was me that called you a feg. He said you were actually ok. But he has a soft spot for boys who were fisted by their father/uncle. Not me though. I wouldn't **** on your mom if you were on fire.

Only thing I heard about you was you blew up your amps or some **** like that when they were down there earlier this year.

your name is "TURD"? does your system sound like "CRAP":laugh:

ok so imma call ya Turd, ok? brah!

it doesnt matter what you have, have had, or ever will have. You will NEVER be able to build a system as loud as mine.

when you have some handbuilt subs, not factory bought, and have more power than just one of my soundigital sd16k amps. then you might think you will get loud. but you wont!

NoCoSPL
12-07-2009, 02:11 PM
Turds are the **** :fyi:

bradknob
12-07-2009, 02:42 PM
sweet build log

ThunderCat95
12-07-2009, 02:47 PM
your name is "TURD"? does your system sound like "CRAP":laugh:

sub2weeker earns the Build Log Thread Crapper of the Year Award!!!

sub-FATHER
12-07-2009, 02:55 PM
sub2weeker earns the Build Log Thread Crapper of the Year Award!!!

hey thanks mr 15 post guy...thunder thunder thunder caaaaats hooooooooe!\



if these people insist on posting a build log with not one picture of the build that the log describes it is not a build log:terrible:

TurdFergueson2
12-07-2009, 04:47 PM
your name is "TURD"? does your system sound like "CRAP":laugh:

The **** I don't have installed is far superior to the **** you do. KNOW THAT Brah.

And Rio is still a feg. You're his bottom

S.B.C.
12-07-2009, 04:48 PM
No one cares about you Rio. Get over yourself.
It was me that called you a feg. He said you were actually ok. But he has a soft spot for boys who were fisted by their father/uncle. Not me though. I wouldn't **** on your mom if you were on fire.

Only thing I heard about you was you blew up your amps or some **** like that when they were down there earlier this year.

lol shut up nigg

go spend your food stamps on something loud


your name is "TURD"? does your system sound like "CRAP":laugh:

Yes, and hes also the color of ****...

Weird huh

Mr. Slate
12-07-2009, 04:51 PM
so my sundown nightshade 18s and saz4500s should be here some time next week and im getting ready to start my box im thinking burch with double baffle and double port wall the rest single layer with 8 peaces dowl rod 4 top to bottom 2 side to side 2 front to back and 4x4 cut in half to round out the corners so six rounded corners all sides and the back then about a gallon or so resin 4 6 inch aeros tuned to 27 htz to start 19.5 cubes to start about 16 after displacement car freq is 37 htz any thoughts i will have pics of old build up soon

Dowl rods are gonna snap loose.

Mr. Slate
12-07-2009, 04:52 PM
lol shut up nigg

go spend your food stamps on something loud

I thought you were cooler then this.:rolleyes:

TurdFergueson2
12-07-2009, 04:58 PM
lol shut up nigg

go spend your food stamps on something loud



Yes, and hes also the color of ****...

Weird huh

Your mammy works for my money. She takes what she can get in this economy. Sometimes a trick brings her food stamps. I woulda put your sweet virgin *** out there too when you were 11, but I wanted you to grow up and be a real man. One of the few mistakes I made in my lifetime. Now you take it up the *** for ring terminals. You stunt ***.

S.B.C.
12-07-2009, 04:58 PM
I thought you were cooler then this.:rolleyes:

Nope :veryhapp:


Your mammy works for my money. She takes what she can get in this economy. Sometimes a trick brings her food stamps. I woulda put your sweet virgin *** out there too when you were 11, but I wanted you to grow up and be a real man. One of the few mistakes I made in my lifetime. Now you take it up the *** for ring terminals. You stunt ***.

hahahahaha

teh blackies make me laugh

TurdFergueson2
12-07-2009, 05:02 PM
I thought you were cooler then this.:rolleyes:

It's Rio. What would you expect.
Not loud and is a feg. Sets amps on fire when he tries to get loud.

Got Shat on by the Altima.

S.B.C.
12-07-2009, 05:04 PM
It's Rio. What would you expect.
Not loud and is a feg. Sets amps on fire when he tries to get loud.

Got Shat on by the Altima.

Never seen 1 of my amps on fire?

Your not even loud

and wouldnt talk ish to my face- another keyboard commando hommie

TurdFergueson2
12-07-2009, 05:21 PM
Never seen 1 of my amps on fire?

Your not even loud

and wouldnt talk ish to my face- another keyboard commando hommie

Protect....my bad.

And like I said, Mike said you're ok. But don't make it like I wouldn't beat your *** cause I would. I'd slap you like the goo guzzling bish you are. I'd advise you to stop it with the racist comments though. We might meet up one day. People I know have already been in your neck of the woods twice.

*ding* I think the onion rings need to come out the grease. Get back to work ****.

TurdFergueson2
12-07-2009, 05:23 PM
Never seen 1 of my amps on fire?

You're not even loud

and wouldnt talk ish to my face- another keyboard commando hommie

I'd stooge slap your *** just for living.

ThunderCat95
12-07-2009, 05:39 PM
hey thanks mr 15 post guy.

np mr 801 post noobix, stop spreading your disease

S.B.C.
12-07-2009, 05:41 PM
Protect....my bad.

And like I said, Mike said you're ok. But don't make it like I wouldn't beat your *** cause I would. I'd slap you like the goo guzzling bish you are. I'd advise you to stop it with the racist comments though. We might meet up one day. People I know have already been in your neck of the woods twice.

*ding* I think the onion rings need to come out the grease. Get back to work ****.

:laugh:

cmon down son

no woods here for you to run through though :(

mlstrass
12-07-2009, 05:58 PM
wow....lotta love in this thread.

NoCoSPL
12-07-2009, 06:23 PM
Fvck all of you. :fyi:

TurdFergueson2
12-07-2009, 06:29 PM
:laugh:

cmon down son

no woods here for you to run through though :(

I guess that was some type of racist remark.

Failed like your POS van. Now run along little boy.

sub-FATHER
12-07-2009, 06:47 PM
np mr 801 post noobix, stop spreading your disease

check it out you fuqqin flamer. we will call what i have a disease! and we will call it SPL B1TCH

Mr. Slate
12-07-2009, 07:05 PM
I Got Shat on by the Altima.

Really?

TurdFergueson2
12-07-2009, 07:24 PM
Really?

Not me, that twink Rio.

ThunderCat95
12-07-2009, 10:58 PM
check it out you fuqqin flamer. we will call what i have a disease! and we will call it SPL B1TCH

No, see, you just proved my point. Im referring to your stupidity as your disease.

sub-FATHER
12-07-2009, 11:51 PM
No, see, you just proved my point. Im referring to your stupidity as your disease.

NO>>> I got SPL and high numbers of it....

is that good enough for you Flamercat:confused:

Annnarbor84
12-08-2009, 01:37 AM
Wow another beautiful CA thread:rolleyes:

mlstrass
12-08-2009, 01:44 AM
NO>>> I got SPL and high numbers of it....

is that good enough for you Flamercat:confused:

FYI.......you have more stupidity then you do SPL ;) But you are rather humble :crazy:

Annnarbor84
12-08-2009, 01:50 AM
FYI.......you have more stupidity then you do SPL ;) But you are rather humble :crazy:

Since when is 4 18"s in a wall in and in an Astro big #'s, I will give him a week or two before he smokes that ******* $2000 amp:laugh:

mlstrass
12-08-2009, 10:05 AM
Since when is 4 18"s in a wall in and in an Astro big #'s, I will give him a week or two before he smokes that ******* $2000 amp:laugh:

cuz he said he's loud, so he must be :crazy:

sub-FATHER
12-08-2009, 11:57 AM
Since when is 4 18"s in a wall in and in an Astro big #'s, I will give him a week or two before he smokes that ******* $2000 amp:laugh:

if the amps working when i get it it will continue to work as my hifonics goliath i ran all year. but since you dont think 4 18s in a wall in an astro are loud perhaps you should ask around...

Annnarbor84
12-08-2009, 12:10 PM
if the amps working when i get it it will continue to work as my hifonics goliath i ran all year. but since you dont think 4 18s in a wall in an astro are loud perhaps you should ask around...

It's an Asstro, should be louder:fyi:

godhatescivics
12-08-2009, 02:57 PM
sub2weeker shut the **** up no one wants to read anything you have to say

S.B.C.
12-08-2009, 03:02 PM
lawl

i <3 this site

RAM_Designs
12-08-2009, 03:02 PM
It's an Asstro, should be louder:fyi:

x2, 155 on a burp isn't much to brag about. Now if he's bassracing a 155, then it's a solid starting point.

godhatescivics
12-08-2009, 03:08 PM
yea i wonder what he bass races

basebalz13
12-08-2009, 03:20 PM
last time i checked he's in the 139.9 bracket

RAM_Designs
12-08-2009, 03:25 PM
last time i checked he's in the 139.9 bracket

With an Astro??? LULZ!

sub-FATHER
12-08-2009, 08:44 PM
last time i checked he's in the 139.9 bracket

and your about as stupid as they come. I can burp a 156.3, and i bass race in the 149.9 class with ease on one amp, never tryed it with two amps.

and i beat me stereo every day. and give it full volume and my **** keeps working.

Annnarbor84
12-09-2009, 01:37 AM
:laugh:

zerocarpileup
12-09-2009, 06:23 AM
17 pages and no pics?

NoCoSPL
12-09-2009, 11:27 AM
Such a hostile enviroment. :)

sub-FATHER
12-09-2009, 11:50 AM
Such a hostile enviroment. :)

what did you expect from someone with their wiring skillz:laugh:

NoCoSPL
12-09-2009, 12:49 PM
Whos got wiring skillz?

gtbike900
04-27-2010, 09:36 PM
current temp setup
2 sundown nightshade 18s d2 temp setup
box 8.4 cubes after dis 3 6 in aeros tuned to 34 htz
electical 8 kinetik 16vs 2 250 amp externally regulated alts
headunit kenwood kdc-mp642u
highs 2 o2 audio 10 pros 4 o2 audio 605ndpros and 4 earthquake aka scremers
highs amp sundown 100.4
sub amp sundown saz4500d at .5


at the advance mobile shows the temp setup did a 153.9 db with 16vs resting at 15.8 and one alt and no time for testing
Competitor Stats: Derek Sindyla (http://www.termpro.com/asp/competitorstats.asp?Competitor_ID=83250&Season=2010&Method=6)

outsideshot23
04-27-2010, 09:39 PM
your gonna need to spend more than 150 on a box my friend... you should be double walling everything even tripple layer walls with 3/4 mdf, or use 1in mdf.

and i wouldnt even waste your time on those aero ports unless your building a box for burping ( my opinion)

just build it with a big azz slot port. its easier to tune and makes the box more sturdy. and looks a hell of alot more impressive

check out my hyperlinks below. it shows my box and all the steps...

ya cost me 180 to do a 13^3 box

gtbike900
04-27-2010, 09:45 PM
i still need to play with tuning, find max volume, find if it still like burping on at 37 charge the batts with the power master 16v charger for 2 days and put my 2nd alt back on but to be safe i burped it at my old feq 39 htz

dasinde91
04-27-2010, 11:57 PM
Thats a nice score are you gonna post pics?

JL Audio
04-29-2010, 05:57 PM
current temp setup
2 sundown nightshade 18s d2 temp setup
box 8.4 cubes after dis 3 6 in aeros tuned to 34 htz
electical 8 kinetik 16vs 2 250 amp externally regulated alts
headunit kenwood kdc-mp642u
highs 2 o2 audio 10 pros 4 o2 audio 605ndpros and 4 earthquake aka scremers
highs amp sundown 100.4
sub amp sundown saz4500d at .5


at the advance mobile shows the temp setup did a 153.9 db with 16vs resting at 15.8 and one alt and no time for testing
Competitor Stats: Derek Sindyla (http://www.termpro.com/asp/competitorstats.asp?Competitor_ID=83250&Season=2010&Method=6)

used to own 8 sets of those screamer tweets.. suckers are big. Loved them, wish I didn't change my mind so much lol

Pioneer~Saturn
04-29-2010, 10:46 PM
This thread is fun :)


and your about as stupid as they come. I can burp a 156.3, and i bass race in the 149.9 class with ease on one amp, never tryed it with two amps.

and i beat me stereo every day. and give it full volume and my **** keeps working.

I suppose that's outlaw, because you said 155.2 legal earlier...

sub-FATHER
04-30-2010, 09:21 PM
This thread is fun :)



I suppose that's outlaw, because you said 155.2 legal earlier...


157.9 outlaw. both on music! just recent scores
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu180/sub2weeker/Jamesoldschooloutlaw.jpg

BumpinKota
05-01-2010, 11:01 AM
Yo pm me if you need a box built, my buddy owns a cabinet shop here by cleveland i could give you a good price for it.