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jsayre914
11-23-2009, 07:43 PM
Hey guys,

My system is a work in progress. I have been into car audio since highschool, and i really appreciate good music. I own a 1973 Porsche 914 and space is an issue. The coolest part to building in this car is 2 trunks, the engine is right in the middle. The hardest part so far is the placement of the tweeters and the tweeking of the sound stage. I drew a diagram of my components and took some pics of where i am currently. I will keep updating this thread as i get further along. Let me know what you think....

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10315

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10340

jsayre914
11-23-2009, 07:48 PM
pics from the cabin

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10316

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10318

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10319

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10320

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10321

jsayre914
11-23-2009, 07:51 PM
hidden in the middle console- line driver and component crossovers. (i will fix the rats nest.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10323

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10324

modskwod
11-23-2009, 07:53 PM
Just a bit of advice, get rid of the capacitors. They're helpful for very small moments of stress, but if you have a long bass hit, the amp will drain the capacitor quickly and the capacitor will have to recharge before the amp gets more power. Thus, starving the amps of power for a second.

jsayre914
11-23-2009, 07:54 PM
rear trunk (still building rack) needs glass and lighting

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10325

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10326

Johnny Law.Lulz
11-23-2009, 07:55 PM
- Lose the capacitors
- Invest in a better headunit like a Kenwood or Alpine

jsayre914
11-23-2009, 07:55 PM
finally. the front trunk

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10322

jsayre914
11-23-2009, 08:45 PM
what do you guys recomend instead of the capacitors?

thorshammer1
11-23-2009, 08:47 PM
Small batt like the kinetik 600 in ea location.

galacticmonkey
11-23-2009, 09:03 PM
Honestly... I would just start over.

Get a nice HU like a Pioneer. Then I would get a 3 or 5ch amp. Run a pair of comps in the doors, and glass a center console for a pair of 8s or a 10 or something. Then just get a small battery for the rear just incase.

Louisiana_CRX
11-23-2009, 09:06 PM
Cool another 914 owner I have a 72.....Welcome to the forum....

jsayre914
11-24-2009, 09:44 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys. I will now have to get a new head unit and loose the capacitors. thanks for the tip on the kinetik (holy #$%) thats a lot more boost. I am trying to keep the car as original as possible, with no cutting whatsoever. I do realize most of my components are really outdated, but it still bumps.

Always nice to meet another 914 owner.

KTFO
11-24-2009, 10:00 AM
awesome amps...the color is disgusting tho... did you run into an Army depot paint store or something? Seriopusly, if you decide to get differtent amps let me know. I will take those PG's off your hands ;)

Toone
11-24-2009, 10:03 AM
gotta do something with those tweets man

Loud3
11-26-2009, 09:22 PM
I love 914's.

I worked with a guy that had one that he tracked occasionally...


Welcome.

jsayre914
12-19-2009, 01:13 AM
Sooo, i am learning lots from the search. I love this site. ITS AWESOME

i have gotten further along. and i might just be starting all over. i pulled all the equipment out to fix a few things on the car. I got rid of my yellow top, and replaced it with the kinetik 1800. i tossed out the capacitors and got the kinetik 600 in their place. i read up on my alternator, wich cranks out a gigantic 55 amps:confused: so i orderd a larger VW bus alternator rated at 75 amps and had it rewound to 120amps. that should be all i will need. I am doing "the big 3" well ... kinda. Its actuallly more like the "little 3" i have no easy access to o guage wire and lots of 4g wire. So i ran everything 4g. I do not plan to push more than 120 amps across any wires in this car.

I also had the seats and center cushion recoverd. My idea was to replace all my speakers with newer stuff, and get a new head unit. What do you say about


Pioneer DEH-P98OBT in the dash

JL Audio ZR650 for the kicks

JL Audio H0112R-W7 to replace the Polk

I would really like some suggestions, thanks for all the help.

Louisiana_CRX
12-19-2009, 02:23 AM
How does the BASS sound in the front trunk? I've been trying to come up with some sort of console sub for my 914....

jsayre914
12-20-2009, 01:42 PM
How does the BASS sound in the front trunk? I've been trying to come up with some sort of console sub for my 914....


The bass is excellent from the front trunk, the whole sound stage pounds from right in front of you. If you are looking for a drop in box for the console. check out near the bottom of the page here....

http://www.914ap.com/products.php

the kick panels are awesome too!

DRATUNES
12-22-2009, 07:40 PM
awesome amps...the color is disgusting tho... did you run into an Army depot paint store or something? Seriously, if you decide to get differtent amps let me know. I will take those PG's off your hands ;)

I almost cried when I seen the horrible green on all that PG goodness:verymad:It doesnt even match the car, is that a ZX250 or 350 you basterdized?and that EQ215:nono: Shame on you. I say keep the equipment and change the caps in those amps and PLEASE REPAINT THEM, there is a big demand for those oldskool amps and eq, people are even collecting the xs series. If you love the oldskool PG like I do you should browse threw the PGphorum and see what you think, no this is not a plug, Im just trying to give him another outlet for his love of PG Im new too this site and I like it:)

MisterGrubbs
12-22-2009, 07:48 PM
First of all, welcome, and great introduction.

Glad you got rid of the capacitors and got the Kinetiks, it's a very large improvement.

Next, your equipment. Granted, your PG equipment is GREAT old school stuff, the speakers themselves should be replaced, as you're doing it seems.

The Pioneer 980BT is a great Head Unit, you wont be disappointed in it and it also allows you to have a TON more control of everything.

The subwoofer and component choice, I'm not a huge fan.

What size woofer do you want? If you can build the box yourself, there is a ton that we can help you with including a design to make you happy as can be. There are tons of SPL or SQ oriented woofers. Let us know if you care more for Sound Quality and we can suggest better woofers for comparable pricing.

Next, the ZR Components. I've heard pretty decent things, but I've never had the first hand experience. I think that you should consider other companies such as CDT, Hybrid Audio, Seas. These companies(for a similar price) will more than likely exceed the output and quality of the JL ZR's

Good luck, sir.

Also, for amplifier recommendation. Memphis Big Belle. It does 75wx4 at 4ohm and the sub channel offers 1100w RMS at 1ohm, it's one hell of an amplifier.

DRATUNES
12-22-2009, 07:57 PM
First of all, welcome, and great introduction.

Glad you got rid of the capacitors and got the Kinetiks, it's a very large improvement.

Next, your equipment. Granted, your PG equipment is GREAT old school stuff, the speakers themselves should be replaced, as you're doing it seems.

The Pioneer 980BT is a great Head Unit, you wont be disappointed in it and it also allows you to have a TON more control of everything.

The subwoofer and component choice, I'm not a huge fan.

What size woofer do you want? If you can build the box yourself, there is a ton that we can help you with including a design to make you happy as can be. There are tons of SPL or SQ oriented woofers. Let us know if you care more for Sound Quality and we can suggest better woofers for comparable pricing.

Next, the ZR Components. I've heard pretty decent things, but I've never had the first hand experience. I think that you should consider other companies such as CDT, Hybrid Audio, Seas. These companies(for a similar price) will more than likely exceed the output and quality of the JL ZR's

Good luck, sir.

Also, for amplifier recommendation. Memphis Big Belle. It does 75wx4 at 4ohm and the sub channel offers 1100w RMS at 1ohm, it's one hell of an amplifier.

Good call on the Memphis MisterGrubbs, its a workhorse for sure, just make sure you have the room for the length of it, its a surfboard for sure:)

jsayre914
01-10-2010, 01:09 AM
Figured I would update the thread a little. Pics of my new upgrade alternator. i went from 50 amps to 120 amps. and few pics of my new batteries. The larger one did not fit so well so some modification to the rain tray and battery tray was required. Now This little car is high voltage. Goodbye capacitors.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-8696-1261492730.jpg

jsayre914
01-10-2010, 01:11 AM
little one
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-8696-1261492746.jpg

jsayre914
01-10-2010, 01:15 AM
Rain tray Mods
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-8696-1261492761.jpg
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-8696-1261492777.jpg
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-8696-1261492792.jpg

jsayre914
01-10-2010, 01:19 AM
This Bad Boy was a stock 75 amp used in earlie VW busses and I had it rewound to 120 amp. It also required so modifications to fit. It was a very tight fit under there. The fan had to come off, and the pulley from my smaller unit had to be swapped onto this one to fit properly.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-8696-1261197031.jpg

misfit138
01-10-2010, 01:23 AM
Nice.

Keep us posted on this project, man...

denim
01-12-2010, 09:40 PM
Awesome car.

jsayre914
05-30-2010, 01:47 PM
I have not had time to play with purchasing any new components yet. But, i found a cheap H. I. D. kit online and put it on last night. I am planning to purchase some H3 pilot driving lights to replace my stock fog lights. I can't wait to drive it tonight:) next i will be looking into replacing the head unit and component set. I was also tired of touching up the wheels, so i stripped them and polished them. i like this look better. Hope to update soon
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10660
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10668