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Hii Im Justin
10-16-2009, 05:51 PM
So i picked up a little ef hatch a few weeks ago and decided to take it apart and build a motor for it.. it came with a mexi paint job, so i sanded it down and painted it beaver blood red, but i dont like it, so im just gonna camo it and gloss black the inside with a roll cage.. its gonna be my fall/winter project

infamous_e46
10-16-2009, 05:54 PM
camo and black interior i have 3 friends that have done that to ef's

if u need paint we sell auto paint at work if u wanna do canteen green like ima do my accord

infamous_e46
10-16-2009, 05:55 PM
cant give u as big of discount if u do a diff color than what im purchasing

Hii Im Justin
10-16-2009, 05:56 PM
its a 89 with really clean body,no dents..got it for $700 and ran fine.. had crx si interior that i ripped out
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/99/l_0defa0d0834a45cdbe81e460ab91bce9.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/23/l_64ff9c59abd345358465e3898e6d800f.jpg

Hii Im Justin
10-16-2009, 05:58 PM
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/41/l_3aa3d570712a4cfdbc50ffef24fcb13c.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/9/l_5636a742920741218542199f0552cffa.jpg

D16y8 sohc vtec head next to stock d15b2 head

Hii Im Justin
10-16-2009, 05:59 PM
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/95/l_3394a600b62e4d6a9f416a43be6d7d35.jpg
8.5:1 pistons...should be around 9.5:1 after its all done..perfect

Hii Im Justin
10-16-2009, 06:02 PM
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/43/l_1a4d5eb565fd40579001dec73fb9a703.jpg
D16a6 long block before i stripped it

Hii Im Justin
10-16-2009, 06:06 PM
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/33/l_094a7f21a85d41ff83eda6ee21b6ed14.jpg
63whp! hell ya
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/107/l_8fe010d0716d42ae82c2d64a1d84b3b3.jpg
where i work on it

MCarmer
10-16-2009, 10:22 PM
whos that chick in your avatar? lol

any plans for big audio in it?

Hii Im Justin
10-20-2009, 12:54 AM
i wanted to put a system in it, but gotta fix the water leaks first

infamous_e46
10-20-2009, 12:59 AM
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/95/l_3394a600b62e4d6a9f416a43be6d7d35.jpg
8.5:1 pistons...should be around 9.5:1 after its all done..perfect

impedence rise ???lulz

silvercookie
10-20-2009, 01:00 AM
wow that was a pretty quick dis-assembly.

Hii Im Justin
10-20-2009, 01:54 AM
taking apart motor only takes like 30mins tops to get bare block

twocamvw
10-20-2009, 07:46 PM
i like camo. you plan on boosting it?

Fusion_FREAK
10-21-2009, 03:50 AM
If you're planning to build a single cam, go with a Vitara build. They're the same pistons from the Suzuki Gran Vitara, super low compression and the ring lands are really far down on the piston. They love lots of boost and will soak up a lot of timing. They're the same bore at the D16's, and you can find them on eBay all day for $100, use OEM Honda rings, or Hastings rings.

Looks like a cool project, I always liked the EF hatches.

Hii Im Justin
10-21-2009, 03:55 PM
yup its gonna be boosted.. got vitara pistons .20 over and eagle rods.. im kinda new to honda motors.. but im building a d16a6 bottom with a d16y8 head

skylineTT
10-21-2009, 04:09 PM
i like the ease of building 4 bangers. i just took apart and rebuilt a honda CBR 600RR engine on a home made engine stand. its sooo easy.

Crimson Boom
10-21-2009, 06:45 PM
k20 out of a wrecked accord :fyi:

cj407
10-21-2009, 06:48 PM
if you are boosting your compression is kinda high...and you dont need vtec for turbo..in fact just changin the intake to a z6 and stage 3 port and polish would be better flow.

Hii Im Justin
10-21-2009, 08:40 PM
kinda high? thats perfect if not to low.. i know what im doing

Hii Im Justin
10-22-2009, 03:44 PM
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/13/l_670d0c9384fb40a0ae5d7a4e02102fb2.jpg
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/31/l_93037c4750e742d6a4333e1460742db5.jpg
got my block back today.. bored .20 over

JBGabriel
10-22-2009, 05:08 PM
kinda high? thats perfect if not to low.. i know what im doing

9.5 compression + boost = detonation IMO

How many lbs you plan on running?

Hii Im Justin
10-22-2009, 05:13 PM
20lbs plus

Hii Im Justin
10-22-2009, 05:16 PM
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/11/l_b85a13135bd34199ae40268aa364c4aa.jpg
my audi at 9.5:1 and big turbo no problems.. i think u needa learn more

JBGabriel
10-22-2009, 05:20 PM
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/11/l_b85a13135bd34199ae40268aa364c4aa.jpg
my audi at 9.5:1 and big turbo no problems.. i think u needa learn more

And you run pump gas?

Hii Im Justin
10-22-2009, 05:23 PM
9.5:1 is hella low.. everyone i know is like at 10.5 or 11.1 on turbo car's.. it doesn't matter what it is, its all in the tuning

JBGabriel
10-22-2009, 05:32 PM
9.5:1 is hella low.. everyone i know is like at 10.5 or 11.1 on turbo car's.. it doesn't matter what it is, its all in the tuning

10.5 or 11.1 is pushing it with an NA motor on pump gas. With aluminum heads and more pressure in the cylinder I dont see how you are able to pull this off. Im not used to 4 bangers Im more into v8s but the same properties should be true.

Hii Im Justin
10-22-2009, 05:56 PM
u know stock hondas come with 10.5 or 11.1 comp right?

twocamvw
10-22-2009, 08:52 PM
i run 13psi on my 10.8to1 compression vw. pump gas and cast pistons.
and i put together a 9to1 compression 468bbc that will get turbo'd when i start getting the drivetrain into the chassis

but i seen a few of those vitara builds and they seem capable of making plenty of power, prolly more then the 1.8t

Fusion_FREAK
10-23-2009, 04:02 PM
9.5 compression + boost = detonation IMO

How many lbs you plan on running?

That's why it's your opinion. With a competent tuner it's not a problem at all.

You can run good ole 93 pump to about 12.5:1 C/R but don't expect a bunch of timing in the tune. We've pulled 30ish lbs of boost on 10:1 C/R with out a problem, but that's on E85.

I'll be going with a Darton sleeved block very soon to 85mm with 8.5:1 C/R and shooting for around 500whp on low boost. My last car was sick... 84mm sleeved GSR with a CAST revhard log manifold on stock cams and made 347whp on 11lbs or so, what ever the wastegate spring was.. If I would have went on a better fuel and a topmount manifold I would have been looking at 700whp :eek:

Hii Im Justin
10-25-2009, 05:39 PM
my rods will be here this week and the bottom end will be ready

JBGabriel
10-26-2009, 01:28 AM
That's why it's your opinion. With a competent tuner it's not a problem at all.

You can run good ole 93 pump to about 12.5:1 C/R but don't expect a bunch of timing in the tune. We've pulled 30ish lbs of boost on 10:1 C/R with out a problem, but that's on E85.

I'll be going with a Darton sleeved block very soon to 85mm with 8.5:1 C/R and shooting for around 500whp on low boost. My last car was sick... 84mm sleeved GSR with a CAST revhard log manifold on stock cams and made 347whp on 11lbs or so, what ever the wastegate spring was.. If I would have went on a better fuel and a topmount manifold I would have been looking at 700whp :eek:

Yea 12.5 NA on pump gas is doable with no timing. Retarding timing is stupid. You can make more power by lowering the comp to reasonable levels and throwing more boost in with more timing. You even say you plan to run 8.5:1 on your next build. I thats where I would run at to be safe on the street. I daily beat everything that I build.

frkkevin
11-03-2009, 04:16 PM
My block is 8.5:1.. What turbo do you plan on running to get 500whp?

Hii Im Justin
11-03-2009, 06:46 PM
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/42/l_36004c46c863470c8fdd335378a5e115.jpg
got my rods n **** finally
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/17/l_55214d5e492a4543813a70366888f5e3.jpg
got my stock d15 out today.. now i gotta clean the engine bay and paint it

JBGabriel
11-04-2009, 12:02 AM
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/42/l_36004c46c863470c8fdd335378a5e115.jpg
got my rods n **** finally
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/17/l_55214d5e492a4543813a70366888f5e3.jpg
got my stock d15 out today.. now i gotta clean the engine bay and paint it

How much do you think this project will set you back all said and done? Even tho I absolutely hate imports I may just build a sleeper for cheap and surprise people. Would be totally stock appearing because I hate rice haha

Hii Im Justin
11-04-2009, 01:51 AM
fully built bottom end will be around $500... $300 for rods.. $120 pistons..u need bearings ect and sum machine work, but thats cheap..

Upgrayedd
11-04-2009, 01:56 AM
high compression + boost is silly IMO. The energy lost by going from 9.5 to 9 is nill and the ability for mbt to not be limited by knock allows more efficient use of every pound of boost. But I know every tuner has their own opinion.

JBGabriel
11-04-2009, 06:07 AM
fully built bottom end will be around $500... $300 for rods.. $120 pistons..u need bearings ect and sum machine work, but thats cheap..

By all said and done I meant all the costs including the cost of the car and the total of all the money your putting in it.... Not just the basic engine build.
Im not really familiar with making hondas fast but I am interested so bear with me.

Im talkin all upgrades your doing including the block, turbo, cams, fuel system, exhaust, clutch, tuning, etc. A parts breakdown would be great. I want to see how much money you spent and what kind of results you get.

My buddy and I had plans to buy a beater honda and make it a fast sleeper but we never followed through. If it can be done cheap and have good results maybe I'll look into a civic or something for a winter project.

I cant beleive I even said that. Haha I told myself I would never own an import but they seem like they can be a cheap platform that is fun to drive with very little work and money.

JBGabriel
11-04-2009, 06:42 AM
high compression + boost is silly IMO. The energy lost by going from 9.5 to 9 is nill and the ability for mbt to not be limited by knock allows more efficient use of every pound of boost. But I know every tuner has their own opinion.

x2 it can be done, but i would rather have alot more timing to play with instead of being on the edge of detonation with very little timing and the same amount of boost. But like the man said to each his own.

Hii Im Justin
11-04-2009, 02:42 PM
my friend has a 92 civic hatch..spent $600 on a stock b18a motor...turbo that running 16lbs on E85 and makes 400whp and runs mid 11's in the 1/4 on stock motor.. he only spent like $2g's on his set up. just depends what goals u have. i bought my car for $600

d16 motor say $250-300 stock
Rods/pistons $450
machine work $200 cause u need to notch block ect deck it
Stock head is good for 400hp
just use stock tranny
clutch/flywheel $300ish
Turbo t3/t4 good for 500whp $650
exhaust just straight 3" is cheap
tunning is pretty cheap.. lots of free programs
fuel injectors/fuel pump $400ish

Hii Im Justin
11-04-2009, 02:42 PM
also if you buy used items or look around.. u can do it alot cheaper

JBGabriel
11-04-2009, 05:06 PM
also if you buy used items or look around.. u can do it alot cheaper

Sweet ill have to look around

frkkevin
11-04-2009, 08:06 PM
my friend has a 92 civic hatch..spent $600 on a stock b18a motor...turbo that running 16lbs on E85 and makes 400whp and runs mid 11's in the 1/4 on stock motor.. he only spent like $2g's on his set up. just depends what goals u have. i bought my car for $600

d16 motor say $250-300 stock
Rods/pistons $450
machine work $200 cause u need to notch block ect deck it
Stock head is good for 400hp
just use stock tranny
clutch/flywheel $300ish
Turbo t3/t4 good for 500whp $650
exhaust just straight 3" is cheap
tunning is pretty cheap.. lots of free programs
fuel injectors/fuel pump $400ish

$600 for a b18a!? ****.. get them here all day for $50 lol.. thats what I put into my crx..

want a cheap beater honda that is fast? gut a crx.. pickup a b18a1 for cheap.. and nos it till it blows .. then replace the motor ;)

you never did answer on the turbo choice?

Fusion_FREAK
11-13-2009, 03:58 PM
My block is 8.5:1.. What turbo do you plan on running to get 500whp?

Precision SC60-1. Will be the Borg S372 very soon.

Hii Im Justin
11-14-2009, 02:48 PM
probly gonna do bullseye T3 60-1

godhatescivics
11-14-2009, 02:49 PM
bam

boostNbeer
11-15-2009, 07:51 PM
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/11/l_b85a13135bd34199ae40268aa364c4aa.jpg
my audi at 9.5:1 and big turbo no problems.. i think u needa learn more

AHAHA YOU ****** LIAR!!!

Ive seen that build on cardomain and it sure aint youre **** car, it was an older guy with kids building it. HAHAHA youre such a joker. Dont lie on the net to be cool

PS- nice clean EF

PPS- but seriously, cut the bullshit on the lies

godhatescivics
11-15-2009, 08:01 PM
AHAHA YOU ****** LIAR!!!

Ive seen that build on cardomain and it sure aint youre **** car, it was an older guy with kids building it. HAHAHA youre such a joker. Dont lie on the net to be cool

PS- nice clean EF

PPS- but seriously, cut the bullshit on the lies

proof of this said page

Fusion_FREAK
11-18-2009, 08:25 AM
How's the hatch coming along?


http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/11/l_b85a13135bd34199ae40268aa364c4aa.jpg
my audi at 9.5:1 and big turbo no problems.. i think u needa learn more

That turbo is cute :veryhapp:

Loud3
12-09-2009, 09:14 PM
Interesting how OP posts new thread on cheap beer and hasn't responded to the accusation?

Hii Im Justin
12-09-2009, 09:19 PM
im here u ****, go check my myspace..rrevmotors is in my town and yes that audi was mine and theres a build thread on here of me doing it

michaellane
12-09-2009, 09:26 PM
Interesting how OP posts new thread on cheap beer and hasn't responded to the accusation?

you would beleive boostnbeer/WOT/cleaninstaller???? you do know he is a scammer and liar right???

michaellane
12-09-2009, 09:27 PM
and OP i like the build...ive thought about doing somehting like this for awhile now...

Hii Im Justin
12-09-2009, 09:43 PM
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/35/l_f84c186d363649978060197203084644.jpg

Hii Im Justin
12-09-2009, 09:56 PM
speaking of the honda.. more pics later this week.. block is at the machine shop still..should be all built by friday i hope

Hii Im Justin
01-16-2010, 03:13 PM
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/118/l_d3de028aec3748f39350a47bfa6398a9.jpg
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/114/l_342be5fa7cd64c9c94ba2006716ac070.jpg
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/148/l_8be238fd144a43a0bd2f28db323af699.jpg
maybe i should update this build lol i finally got somewhere